IL2 and Sound Modding

[Billfish]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

And no,I have still not seen any increase in cheating online.

In most cases only the one cheating can see it........You don't see or hear what cheats another may use (except for rediculous speed hacking (non-mod related) and so on), nor will there be any sure way to tell with most unless THEY post tracks........

So do you expect cheaters to state openly that "they cheat"?...........Anyone to believe no one will is simply foolish.....and to state that due to the work of the hackers we must now all limit our online play to purely those we can trust/know well and so on, is nothing short of imposing your will upon others play unfairly. So cheating unto itself.

Please don't tell me that all of this with any of you is just now sinking in.....Please don't tell me that you believed all here are purely honorable....I don't have to argue this, I simply need to go back to my first post on any forum on the subject and say "told you so"....

Wait for it.....It's already here, yet the glaring blatant proof you seek is coming, and I'm no great visionary it's just how people are.

Wait for it.....

K2

[JG52Uther]

Nothing has to sink in with me. I still do not believe the sky is falling.I enjoy il2 online as much now as I ever have done.As you no doubt know from my posts I only use unmodded il2 online.The people who cheat (and have always cheated,in some way or other) will continue to do so.
I expect people to cheat every time I enter a public dogfight server.I am usually not disappointed.

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by Billfish

and to state that due to the work of the hackers we must now all limit our online play to purely those we can trust/know well and so on, is nothing short of imposing your will upon others play unfairly. So cheating unto itself.

BS! That is the way of online play, f'ing get used to it, noone is imposing shit on you! It has ALWAYS been the case that to keep cheaters away you play with people you know, that will never change! Just because you have had the illusion that online play has been fair does not mean that it has been. Il2 has been leading a sheltered life so far, most of it denial anyway. Every other online game on the damn planet is that way, play with those you know or risk cheaters, why the f$%# start whining about it now?

I'm sorry if this offends some people but I am sick and damn tired of being accused of shit because I like some of the mods! I did not hack anything! I did not cheat anybody! I did not force my will on anyone! I didn't do shit to anybody so STFU and leave us all the hell alone, if you don't like the mods, then don't f'ing use them and go play your damn game. If you can't have fun with it anymore cause you can't deal with the real world then sucks to be you!

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

While I am disappointed/confused over what is happening with 4.09mb I do firmly beleive that AAA will not cross the FM/DM/Weapons line.

I just read, again, at that other site that someone modded specific aircraft WM to use safat rounds. Rone or Josse ring a bell? That isn't the only WM mod either.

[VT-51_Razor]

Is this the same Urufu that is nashing his teeth over at AAA about leaving 4.09 alone so the pure of heart and the rest of us bums can just get along??? EEEeeeeeYeow! Well said BTW

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

BS! That is the way of online play, f'ing get used to it, noone is imposing shit on you! It has ALWAYS been the case that to keep cheaters away you play with people you know, that will never change! Just because you have had the illusion that online play has been fair does not mean that it has been. Il2 has been leading a sheltered life so far, most of it denial anyway. Every other online game on the damn planet is that way, play with those you know or risk cheaters, why the f$%# start whining about it now?

I'm sorry if this offends some people but I am sick and damn tired of being accused of shit because I like some of the mods! I did not hack anything! I did not cheat anybody! I did not force my will on anyone! I didn't do shit to anybody so STFU and leave us all the hell alone, if you don't like the mods, then don't f'ing use them and go play your damn game. If you can't have fun with it anymore cause you can't deal with the real world then sucks to be you!

Just because you didn't cook the crack before you smoked it doesn't mean you're still not a crackhead. Chill, you're getting mighty defensive........

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by BSS_Sniper

I just read, again, at that other site that someone modded specific aircraft WM to use safat rounds. Rone or Josse ring a bell? That isn't the only WM mod either.

Yes, josse does have a mod like that, and yes it has been mentioned on the AAA site, but it is a banned mod on AAA, it is against the AAA rules and will never be posted there. It was simply discussed.

And don't you dare compare the use of mods to being a crackhead. Yes I'm getting defensive, you would be too if it was you being accused of vile actions that you did not commit. All I do is fly B-17s and B-29s and such and me and everyone like me is being accused of all sorts of crap. I've said here and on other forums a bunch of times that I would put this back in the bottle if I could, but I cannot, so no one is going to "impose their will" on me and keep me from having fun while not hurting anyone. I have done NOTHING WRONG! If you guys want a level playing feild stop accusing and belittling others and come up with a solution your damn selves. I've tried and treid to come up with some sort of way to find a peaceful middle ground but I've finally realized that that will never happen as long as an insane few keep insisting we are doing wrong by minding our own damn buisness on our own damn pc's.

[Billfish]

as before I could join HL and feel very confident of the 1,000 there, that it would be a rare occurance to run into a cheater and once known, easy enough to blow off............Now however, in that many mods, not just a few yet many grant advantage over the stock game......I can feel very confident that NO mission I fly in is hack/cheat free.

It is your responsibility, as all others here, as it was up to us as members of a community to protect what is the foundation of our community the sim.......To support the contrary, shirking ones responsibility and stating clearly what path you've chosen....as I said above;

"Once having chosen a path most follow it to its end......Call me a Cynic, yet the work of the modders of "all groups" (those posting here just a small fraction YET could of taken a leadership role, refused), and sadly the cheaters using their work has just begun."

p.s.....the modders broke it, up to them to fix it or are the non-modders to have to take up the yoke of responsibility again as well as the modders go about their merry uncaring way?..........Sadly how it is hon, not a slam to you directly, yet one to all who support a wrong.


Wait for it............

K2

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by Billfish

a (those posting here just a small fraction YET could of taken a leadership role, refused),
K2

Sorry Billfish I really don't understand what you mean by this.What 'leadership' role could we have taken?
AAA is not my site,and I have no sway there,same as urufu.

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

billfish, I've said my peace, I'm not responsible for your delusions, I wish everyone would just STFU and leave everyone else the hell alone.