SHOOTING at the OLYMPICS

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by JG4_Helofly

So pepper spray doesn't work? I work with these sprays and used it several times. The effect is immediate.
If the criminal is drugged and the spray does not affect him, well, then a bullet in a non vital area won't stop him either. That's were we come to skill again. Most people won't be able to hit a vital area under stress and in the dark. So I disagree when you say that less lethal weapons are less protection.

NOWHERE did I say pepper spray doesn't work. I said that it is not always effective.

If you truly work with such sprays then you are surely aware of the many cases where they have not stopped an attacker. A simple google search will turn up many.

You must also be aware of the many cases where police officers have been incapacitated by their own sprays. A situation that would amplified HUNDREDS OF TIMES IN A ROOM.

It is obviously true that a single hit may fail to cause an attacker to cease his criminal behavior, however, only an idiot fires a single shot in a life or death situation and then takes time to evaluate an attacker's state before firing again. Mozambique is the way to go.

Originally Posted by JG4_Helofly

An other problem is, that many people will also shoot criminals who "just" want to steal money in their houses.

The above is the most overused and asinine statement possible in this argument. Prisons are FULL of murderers who, "didn't mean to hurt anyone". The INNOCENT people they killed are still just as dead. I could care less why anyone breaks into my house. They make that CHOICE at their own risk.

Originally Posted by JG4_Helofly

That's a problem. I can imagine that a scared person who doesn't have training, will fire at every person which is not supposed to be in his house.

I will certainly be scared and I will certainly try to kill EVERYONE who is not supposed to be in my house.

Once again, THEY CHOSE TO BE THERE AND THEY CHOSE TO TAKE THE RISK.

Originally Posted by JG4_Helofly

Also there is a great chance of shooting because of the stress. You know the problem: finger on the trigger and before you know it the gun fires. Especially single action pistols with a light trigger pull.

That will always be the case, but, only the most expensive handguns have really light trigger pulls without additional trigger work. IMO, it's a minimal risk.

Originally Posted by JG4_Helofly

Imo a gun is a to complicated system for an untrained individual. And therefore dangerous for him and others.

I disagree. When it comes to defensive use in your home it's not very complicated at all.

You have spoken in ridiculously vague generalities throughout your posts but I would like you to answer my question...

Why should I, individually, be forced to die because, in general, strict gun control would result in fewer gun deaths?

Because THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED when three individuals forced me to use a firearm defensively. The fact that NONE of the 3 attackers had a firearm would not have saved myself, the 3 year old child, or her mother THAT ARE ALIVE TODAY BECAUSE I HAD A HANDGUN.


--Outlaw.