Wich joystick to buy?

[Armatian]

Thanks a lot, very helpful input. I'm trying to locate thrustmaster and ch distribution in my lame part of the world.
I will avoid saitek low end for now, as i said, i only enjoy driving now that i have logitech g25, it's just that costs so damn much here, i needed to save for 18 months -_-
But considering i enjoy just driving, or just flying, checking dials, manual mixture and propeller rpm, i think that serious products or diy is my way to go.
Finally i relocated bodnar work, thanks for the links people, i wish i had credit card, i'm doing ptc to have some paypal money now D=

PD: FF it's really not a go, i fly occasionally with my father and can assure that feedback is in your butt, not in the stick, unlike driving that is 50-60% wheel feedback.