Wich joystick to buy?

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Untamo

Hi.
I have made my own rudder pedals

got pics?

[albx]

Originally Posted by swiss

I had this stick for 48hrs - and returned it.

The stick itself is pretty well made, unfortunately it lacks some buttons.
Worst part: the resistance of the stick is not linear to it's movement range - it increases somewhere at 75% and decreases at 8x%.

The throttle is just cheap, the friction is a joke, and the rocker switch is of no use at all since it's an axis.

No mapping software either.

Conclusion: It's cheap, but it's a crappy hotas too.
Go and buy a better "not hotas" stick for the money, or if you want hotas: spend more.




Didn't feel very precise, however I can only compare it to the x52.

my comparision was with the Saitek aviator not with the x-52. The X-52 price is about the double of what i paid for the thrustmaster, and it is just good for my use... I paid mine about 40 euro, the X-52 is about 100 euro and more

[Sokol1]

-If i could buy core logics and pots, happily would make my own, but i don't know how, that's even more difficult here.

You can. Use USB card like Leo Bodnar Bu0836 (8 axis, 32 buttons, HAT), or D.I.Y. Mjoy8/16 to eletronics (6/8 axis, 24/112 buttons, HAT) or similar cards, and automotive U-Joint for gimbal, and cheap HALL Sensor like Allegro A1321-EUAT instead pots.

http://www.jpfiles.com/hardware/uni_stick.pdf

Sokol1

[TheGrunch]

Originally Posted by MikkOwl

I have a G940 also. It has a lot of good things about it but has some really really nasty driver problems that are infuriating.

Are the new drivers still not out, MikkOwl?

[Untamo]

Originally Posted by swiss

got pics?

and the Hall sensor assembly (image taken when the neodymium magnet was still attached with blue tack .. well it still is, but it's hardened in place with epoxy)



Version one of the pedals, plan to someday make new ones with toe brakes. From metal if possible.. but wood seems to be durable enough


-Untamo

[Armatian]

Originally Posted by Sokol1

You can. Use USB card like Leo Bodnar Bu0836 (8 axis, 32 buttons, HAT), or D.I.Y. Mjoy8/16 to eletronics (6/8 axis, 24/112 buttons, HAT) or similar cards, and automotive U-Joint for gimbal, and cheap HALL Sensor like Allegro A1321-EUAT instead pots.

http://www.jpfiles.com/hardware/uni_stick.pdf

Sokol1

Very much appreciated, that was the part i was missing, the only way to long lasting is through non-contact, like optical or this way.
Are those hall sensors precise and progressive enough?

[MikkOwl]

Originally Posted by TheGrunch

Are the new drivers still not out, MikkOwl?

They came out in May I think, but they did not contain anything relating to the reversal bug. They were a temporary hotfix. The intent was to go straight for a major upgrade for the profiler software and other stuff but the customer complains warranted this diversion. I am still dissappointed about the reversal bug being there. Only thing I heard some month or two ago was that it shouldn't be too much longer for the major release. Surely they would not overlook the same issue..again?

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Building one's own stuff is fun. Or rather designing stuff is fun but building sucks. Takes so much time and is noisy, smelly and too much to go wrong.

When thinking about the cost of things (for example, more expensive controllers compared to cheaper do-it-yourself project) it is not just about money.

Imagine that building it will take perhaps 15-40 hours of work (not just assembly but finding the parts, getting the parts, studying guides on how to build, then building, then testing, then arranging/moving stuff around the room to make things fit out of the way, setting up/tuning, practical bla bla).

With all this work spent, would it have been possible to work overtime at the workplace instead to afford the more expensive system? Or work extra somewhere?

Because if you work 10 hours extra and get a nice working control system with the money, it is much less work, and probably more reliable and much more practical, than paying a bit less money and doing the big project.

Just some considerations. Depends what is possible and what is more desirable.

[TheGrunch]

Originally Posted by MikkOwl

They came out in May I think, but they did not contain anything relating to the reversal bug. They were a temporary hotfix. The intent was to go straight for a major upgrade for the profiler software and other stuff but the customer complains warranted this diversion. I am still dissappointed about the reversal bug being there. Only thing I heard some month or two ago was that it shouldn't be too much longer for the major release. Surely they would not overlook the same issue..again?

Unbelievable. The most worrying things are that looking on their forum, they don't seem to have acknowledged that the reversal bug either exists or is on their priority list to be fixed. Also, the fact that they've destroyed the FFB implementation in Il-2 in the latest firmware is worrying. I really want to get an FFB stick at some point, but this is just putting me off so badly. I wonder whether Maddox Games have been given a G940 to work with to make it compatible with SoW? If it's dodgy with SoW there's no chance I'll ever buy one.

[Untamo]

@ MikkOwl:

True true for the consumed time vs. buying -issue .. I just happen to like building stuff ... Atleast the electronic bits are nice.. the other stuff not so nice. I suck at carpentry

-Untamo

[Bloblast]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Unfortunately their are no really good FFB sticks around anymore. The FFB stick to beat all FFB sticks was the MSFFB2 but they are hard to come by new and also I have heard they are hard to setup with win7 especially 64 bit.

Yep the MS FFB2 was big but good, but do not work with Windows Vista nor 7.

Currently I use Logitech Force 3d Pro which is good as well smaller and therefore user friendlier.