how are these 109s turns 180 with out penalties?

[GF_Mastiff]

I just watched a 109 turn 180 degrees and not lose power or energy?!

BS

I hope the patch fixs this and the under powered Spits Ia supposed to be able to do 310mph I can not get it over 240mph all trimed out! 25 % fuel and it's not doing it.

[recoilfx]

I fly 109 most of the time and there is a significant loss of energy turning 180.

And yes, Spit Ia is porked. Both 109 and Spit Ia are not flying to their historical performance.

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by recoilfx

I fly 109 most of the time and there is a significant loss of energy turning 180.

And yes, Spit Ia is porked. Both 109 and Spit Ia are not flying to their historical performance.

And the 50's on all the allies planes are under modelled too!!

[Martinho]

Originally Posted by recoilfx

And yes, Spit Ia is porked. Both 109 and Spit Ia are not flying to their historical performance.

Air Warrior?

[adonys]

I've started to fly again these weeks on ATAG, and:

I saw plenty of red bombers coming high over France from over the channel.

Flying high with 109 (4-5k) means you see nothing on the deck. not even at 1-2k. If you want to pick low targets, you have to either watch flak (which is rendered at longer distance than other things) or have someone fly low and inform you about them.

Actually, flying high is a BIG problem in Il2CoD, as from above 2-3 k you see nothing rendered on the ground, not even those big damn radar antennas, so, you have to actually come low to lock on your target, or dive blindly hoping for the best.

Also, I've constantly flew Stuka over England, at 3-4k, with no one intercepting me or bothering me in any way.

Regarding the flak, it haven't bothered me at all, not even in Stuka. Flak it is not a problem if you know how to fly against it: as soon as you enter a flak area, start using evasive maneuvers (lateral and most importantly vertical waves).

The worst thing about the ATAG atm is that no one coordinates their flights. NO ONE! Hopefully, Banks's DCE will provide a solid backbone for pilots to be tempted to do it!

Salute!

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by adonys

The worst thing about the ATAG atm is that no one coordinates their flights. NO ONE! Hopefully, Banks's DCE will provide a solid backbone for pilots to be tempted to do it!

Just because you are not coordinated you can't accuse the others of not being - I see it all the time. The guys on Red team have their act together. I don't think I've ever seen you on there - the stats page says you have been there 23 times.

What side do you fly mostly? If you are not on comms you wont coordinate at all and that is not anyone's fault.

[adonys]

Each time I'm logging in on ATAG I'm also logging in on ATAG's TS server. I'm playing Blue side only.

I haven't seen in these last couple of weeks any kind of coordinated activity (which is more than 2-3 players acting together), not from Blues, and neither from Reds.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by adonys

Actually, flying high is a BIG problem in Il2CoD, as from above 2-3 k you see nothing rendered on the ground, not even those big damn radar antennas, so, you have to actually come low to lock on your target, or dive blindly hoping for the best.

Negative - I fly at high alt very often and I am able to see contacts very low below with no problem. I find the contact recognition in CloD quite amazing as often, yoo only see what is a glass reflection and even at long distance, you can see if it's RAF camouflage or a 109.

Very often I can observe dogfights on the sea level while I am flying at 17-20k. It takes a while to get used to it, it certainly is different (and better) than 1946 but once you adapt, I'd say the depiction of distance and depth is very good in this sim.

Regarding coordination on ATAG - I disagree strongly, but it very much depends when and with whom you're flying I guess.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Robo.

Negative - I fly at high alt very often and I am able to see contacts very low below with no problem. I find the contact recognition in CloD quite amazing as often, yoo only see what is a glass reflection and even at long distance, you can see if it's RAF camouflage or a 109.

Very often I can observe dogfights on the sea level while I am flying at 17-20k. It takes a while to get used to it, it certainly is different (and better) than 1946 but once you adapt, I'd say the depiction of distance and depth is very good in this sim.

Regarding coordination on ATAG - I disagree strongly, but it very much depends when and with whom you're flying I guess.

Re. the contact recognition, which resolution are you using? At 1920x1200 I can't spot contacts from medium distance, and I often experience the disappearance of planes when approaching at certain angles.

Ins

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by Robo.

Negative - I fly at high alt very often and I am able to see contacts very low below with no problem. I find the contact recognition in CloD quite amazing as often, yoo only see what is a glass reflection and even at long distance, you can see if it's RAF camouflage or a 109.

Very often I can observe dogfights on the sea level while I am flying at 17-20k. It takes a while to get used to it, it certainly is different (and better) than 1946 but once you adapt, I'd say the depiction of distance and depth is very good in this sim.

Regarding coordination on ATAG - I disagree strongly, but it very much depends when and with whom you're flying I guess.

Yeah, tell us your settings because this is CERTAINLY not the case for me.