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kendo65
01-25-2013, 02:19 PM
A little wary of even posting this given the recent goings on, but I'm sure some people here will be interested.

http://forum.il2sturmovik.net/topic/168-developer-diary/#entry8196

More info on what can be expected with BOS, and from this person's perspective some interesting (and slightly surprising) stuff.
(specifically: higher poly models than COD, more accurate FMs than COD, and hints towards (?) an active ground war)

Should be particularly good news for the 'it's just ROF in WW2' crowd...or maybe not? :confused:

Feathered_IV
01-25-2013, 09:24 PM
Still early days and still very much "wait and see" I suspect. The quality of the dev diary is excellent and certainly inspires confidence though. It is a sign of good effective management and a well organised team. It puts some other developers efforts to shame.

Still reeling from the revelations about the I-16's poor low speed handling and difficulties to operate. Sets things on thir ear a bit. Sounds like effective CEM in the BoS one would be absorbing to say the least.

startrekmike
01-25-2013, 09:29 PM
Clearly you are a 777 spy! :)

It was a encouraging blog post, I approached the initial news with caution but every week they say a bit more about it and they have thus far addressed a lot of issues.

After this post, it is clear that we are not dealing with "ROF with a WWII paintjob", shame there are a small few on this forum that will refuse to believe it even if it is staring them in the face.

That said, due to this project still being a bit far off, I am going to keep my attention on the CloD modding, I am excited to see what comes out of it.

zapatista
01-26-2013, 12:12 AM
A little wary of even posting this given the recent goings on, but I'm sure some people here will be interested.

http://forum.il2sturmovik.net/topic/168-developer-diary/#entry8196

More info on what can be expected with BOS, and from this person's perspective some interesting (and slightly surprising) stuff.
(specifically: higher poly models than COD, more accurate FMs than COD, and hints towards (?) an active ground war)

Should be particularly good news for the 'it's just ROF in WW2' crowd...or maybe not? :confused:

lol i bet you are a good customer for the shopping channel on tv to :) all that shines isnt gold, and the infomercial marketing hype that you will see from the RoF-BS campaign in the next 12 months is not equal to the end-product description

what i do think is rather funny, in a sad kinda way, is that you are responding like an enthusiastic little puppy at all things RoF-BS (a product which is non existent), yet you didnt have the common courtesy to provide positive constructive feedback to a far more superior product which already existed and was 75% completed

and another oddity in your behavior is that you come and post the RoF-BS trivia here ( a CoD forum), yet you and your Rof-BS chums eagerly support the marketing censorship at the RoF forums which prevent any normal discussion and comparison with other products.

see there is good news about CoD's progress you should have noticed, maybe that would be something to discuss in the CoD forum instead ?

Hi virtual pilots!

With the recent announcement that 1C has dropped further development of IL2 Cliffs of Dover, a group of talented programmers and modders called "Team Fusion" have been steadily working on future developments. The 1st internal test version for release candidate 1 is now under full internal testing.

Some of the bug fixes include:

- Flight model correction and the atmospheric engine fixed - This includes historically correct flight models and the high altitude bug being squashed. You will now be able to fly at proper altitudes.

- MP contrails are now visible by every pilot

- Bringing back the original look of weathering and reflections. This also includes the introduction of cockpit glass and cockpit gauge reflections. Depending on sunlight conditions the glass in your cockpit may even have cloud reflections.

- The in-game prop reflections have been greatly improved

- a new device link interface that allows all you virtual pilots with sim pits the ability for device link via IL2 Cliffs of Dover. This has been programmed so ONLY the instruments you have in the particular aircraft you are flying will register with Device link. This has been done to prevent any sort of exploitation of the system

- Numerous bug fixes to various attributes of the aircraft. This includes fixes such as the way fuel delivery works (tank to tank to engine) to incorrect placement of gauges all based on historical accuracy.

- Seasonal map changes of the English Channel map - This includes the standard English Channel Summer map with greatly improved textures, to an Autumn, and Winter versions of the same map

With that said, the 1st patch will focus on what we believe is the most glaring issue of the sim - the flight models. Once we are happy with the accuracy of all aircraft flight models, we will be purging ahead with many other bug fixes and additional content.

The ongoing progress can be seen here: http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?93-General-Discussion

Thank you,

Team Fusion

now is that worth discussing in the CoD forum instead ?

but wait there is more, the same group that already succesfully made those improvements is also working on further improvements, like a better COOP method that makes it easier for unskilled people to use that function, fixing the visibility bubble etc.. now THAT is newsworthy in a CoD forum !!

zapatista
01-26-2013, 12:23 AM
It is a sign of good effective management and a well organised team.

its marketing spin and product pre promotion, and only indicated the activity of the marketing department, and is not actual end-product content description

It puts some other developers efforts to shame.
your again bitching and moaning again at CoD in the CoD forum, or you still didnt notice your constant vile and venom here ?

Still reeling from the revelations about the I-16's poor low speed handling and difficulties to operate. .
you'r reeling pretty easy, try and grow some backbone for a change. hint: go cheering at RoF-BS at their forum, and limit your participation in CoD forums to constructive participation on that product

Feathered_IV
01-26-2013, 12:28 AM
Go squeeze your pimples zap.

zapatista
01-26-2013, 12:47 AM
Go squeeze your pimples zap.

lol and your unimaginative, all you can do is repeating the insult i have been using for the teen forum vandals that have been trolling here ? got anything original to say ?

or maybe just try and participate here with something positive and constructive about CoD instead, you know, that's the forum you'r in here after all. the purpose for visiting THIS location for "normal" visitors is to constructively discuss CoD and help each other enjoy the CoD sim, rather then the constant toxic troll behavior you'r usually exhibiting

bzc3lk
01-26-2013, 02:57 AM
lol and your unimaginative, all you can do is repeating the insult

Oh The Irony! :rolleyes:

Severe case of ..............


http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/bzc3lk/tin-foil-hat02_zps12b59424.jpg


Me Thinks. LOL ;)

zapatista
01-26-2013, 07:52 AM
...... tree's self portrait.........

hiya tree :)

needing a new nick again ?

and stop playing with your new phone in the bathroom, your zits are showing !!

Continu0
01-26-2013, 08:05 AM
Zapatista...

We are all disappointed (and to some extent angry) that the development of CloD ended, but at least we should give BoS a chance...
It´s not the BoS-Dev´s fault that CloD was given up, that was the 1C-management...

All that negativity... it just doesn´t help.

SlipBall
01-26-2013, 08:05 AM
Reading through the lines I get the message don't expect much, but do expect reliability...some of us had that with Clod, plus the much more aspect.

kendo65
01-26-2013, 10:57 AM
lol i bet you are a good customer for the shopping channel on tv to :) all that shines isnt gold, and the infomercial marketing hype that you will see from the RoF-BS campaign in the next 12 months is not equal to the end-product description

what i do think is rather funny, in a sad kinda way, is that you are responding like an enthusiastic little puppy at all things RoF-BS (a product which is non existent), yet you didnt have the common courtesy to provide positive constructive feedback to a far more superior product which already existed and was 75% completed

'Responding like an enthusiastic little puppy ...to a product which is non existent' - I did the same for COD pre-release too. Guess I just tend to look at the positive rather than constantly hate.

'you didnt have the common courtesy to provide positive constructive feedback to a far more superior product which already existed and was 75% completed'
I gave constructive feedback on COD for a long time. Don't try your usual 'black and white thinking' trick of now casting me as one of the long-time haters. I was far from it.

It's still a great disappointment for me that I never saw it realise its full potential (in my own personal opinion and speaking as an offliner. I know many people have already enjoyed and continue to enjoy COD)

and another oddity in your behavior is that you come and post the RoF-BS trivia here ( a CoD forum), yet you and your Rof-BS chums eagerly support the marketing censorship at the RoF forums which prevent any normal discussion and comparison with other products.


I posted it (with reservations expressed because of the reaction of intolerant people like yourself) in the Pilot's Lounge section of the site where, if you care to take the blinkers off for two seconds, you will find posts about Hanks and Spielberg making a new series, War Thunder, the International Space Station, Burma Spitfires (or the lack of them), and various Raaaid threads.

I thought some people might be interested as the announcement had some interesting and surprising details, or is BOS the only topic that in your opinion should never ever be brought up here?


see there is good news about CoD's progress you should have noticed, maybe that would be something to discuss in the CoD forum instead ?
now is that worth discussing in the CoD forum instead ?

but wait there is more, the same group that already succesfully made those improvements is also working on further improvements, like a better COOP method that makes it easier for unskilled people to use that function, fixing the visibility bubble etc.. now THAT is newsworthy in a CoD forum !!

That's great news about COD, and also the first I've heard about it as afaik it hasn't been publicised on this forum before (probably understandably given the development is 'unofficial'). I'm excited and will look forward to testing out whatever update is released.

---Edit

Ok, just seen the Team Fusion announcement buried in the Modding section, so it seems I'm a little out of date. Finally registered on ATAG to see the screenies. Looks good. Here's hoping for good days ahead.

bzc3lk
01-26-2013, 03:53 PM
.........Zapatista's self portrait..........




http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/bzc3lk/TREEPROOFtin-foil-hat_zpsfec67484.jpg

Wolf_Rider
01-27-2013, 03:49 AM
don'tcha hate it, when those who set out on a campaign find themselves on the receiving end of that same campaign... finding themselves being served up what they themselves dished out ;)






"They are almost universally unaware of their own condition. They plow through message boards blindly shooting slogans and hurling insults believing that they are Soldiers of the Light. I'm more likely to talk somebody out of breathing than converting a fanboy."

there is a certain hypocrisy in that statement, when taken in context of what is posted by the author....

Skoshi Tiger
01-27-2013, 04:44 AM
To tell you the truth I find the BoS updates fairly much on par with the COD updates, except we're not getting any idea about the look of the new sim - no screen shots or early concept artwork.

It is very interesting that Loft tells us straight that the video's posted are for general interest ONLY!

Its obvious that the the Mig 3 and I16 did not have a part in the Battle of Stalingrad at the stage depicted in the sim and probably wont be in the sim when it is released but over half the comments revolve about the pilots comments of the two planes????

I find it very strange.

I got two questions answered for which I am very grateful but I'm hanging out to get a feeling of what this games going to be like

SlipBall
01-27-2013, 07:41 AM
To tell you the truth I find the BoS updates fairly much on par with the COD updates, except we're not getting any idea about the look of the new sim - no screen shots or early concept artwork.

It is very interesting that Loft tells us straight that the video's posted are for general interest ONLY!

Its obvious that the the Mig 3 and I16 did not have a part in the Battle of Stalingrad at the stage depicted in the sim and probably wont be in the sim when it is released but over half the comments revolve about the pilots comments of the two planes????

I find it very strange.

I got two questions answered for which I am very grateful but I'm hanging out to get a feeling of what this games going to be like


Did you post this in the developer update comments thread :grin:

Skoshi Tiger
01-27-2013, 09:29 AM
Did you post this in the developer update comments thread :grin:

BlackSix told us that the planes weren't involved. I did make a thread for the Mig3 V I-16 in the apropriate section so people can duke it out in a private room.

And it's plain hillarious to see people that bagged Oleg and the Luthier for "useless update" are tugging their forlocks for the same-old from the BoS team.

Maybe they have seen the error in their ways and can now see how destructive their attitude was?

We can only hope - though I can see certain patterns repeating.

You know if you don't learn from history you're fairly well certain to repeat the same old errors and I guess the biggest trolls evolve from jilted Fanbois'.

Gwd 'elp the poor old BoS Team!

:grin:

il_corleone
01-27-2013, 10:36 AM
Zapatista...

We are all disappointed (and to some extent angry) that the development of CloD ended, but at least we should give BoS a chance...
It´s not the BoS-Dev´s fault that CloD was given up, that was the 1C-management...

All that negativity... it just doesn´t help.

It didnt ended my friend :)

SlipBall
01-27-2013, 10:40 AM
BlackSix told us that the planes weren't involved. I did make a thread for the Mig3 V I-16 in the apropriate section so people can duke it out in a private room.

And it's plain hillarious to see people that bagged Oleg and the Luthier for "useless update" are tugging their forlocks for the same-old from the BoS team.

Maybe they have seen the error in their ways and can now see how destructive their attitude was?

We can only hope - though I can see certain patterns repeating.

You know if you don't learn from history you're fairly well certain to repeat the same old errors and I guess the biggest trolls evolve from jilted Fanbois'.

Gwd 'elp the poor old BoS Team!

:grin:


I see :)...that group and its leader's have been neutered, and some roots of one(;)), were severed in the process.

WTE_Galway
01-27-2013, 12:13 PM
I have zero interest in this game and no intentions of buying it, but wish them luck regardless.

=CfC= Father Ted
01-27-2013, 12:28 PM
lol i bet you are a good customer for the shopping channel on tv to :) all that shines isnt gold, and the infomercial marketing hype that you will see from the RoF-BS campaign in the next 12 months is not equal to the end-product description

what i do think is rather funny, in a sad kinda way, is that you are responding like an enthusiastic little puppy at all things RoF-BS (a product which is non existent), yet you didnt have the common courtesy to provide positive constructive feedback to a far more superior product which already existed and was 75% completed

and another oddity in your behavior is that you come and post the RoF-BS trivia here ( a CoD forum), yet you and your Rof-BS chums eagerly support the marketing censorship at the RoF forums which prevent any normal discussion and comparison with other products.

see there is good news about CoD's progress you should have noticed, maybe that would be something to discuss in the CoD forum instead ?



now is that worth discussing in the CoD forum instead ?

but wait there is more, the same group that already succesfully made those improvements is also working on further improvements, like a better COOP method that makes it easier for unskilled people to use that function, fixing the visibility bubble etc.. now THAT is newsworthy in a CoD forum !!

So by your logic:

As far as I understand it, this news is in the same category as the BoS updates - a projection of stuff which may come to fruition. What I haven't seen on any forums is anyone dismissing it as non-existent and therefore not worthy of attention, or even doubting that those involved can deliver on their promises. Granted, it's not the same situation because they're doing it for free, but even with that caveat, it's still the same principle - news about something which has hasn't happened.

If most of us can be excited about this and will wait to see what comes of it, why can you not extend the same courtesy to the BoS developers?

Jumo211
01-27-2013, 02:41 PM
After many members outcry , what else would anyone expect ?
of course in order to sell it , they're beginning to say BoS will soon
have everything better than CloD , they would have to be out
of their minds to continue with LOFT's not exactly enthusiastic
answers in the past comparing BoS to CloD .
Finally it did strike someone in the BoS management that it is
not in their best interest to present BoS anything less than CloD .
Smart move ! what took you so long ?

I have zero interest in this game and no intentions of buying it, but wish them luck regardless.

+1000 ;)