were people 700 years ago way smarter than today?

[raaaid]

i studied in literature juglars knew perfectly memorized word to word several chaints and check their size:

http://amediavoz.com/cantardemiocid.htm

more than that, they didnt have paper then so just by listening to it several times from the juglar master should sufice

and compare with todays:

http://oregoncatalyst.com/uploads/sarah-palin-hand-notes.jpg

i think we as human are seriously devolving but we dont notice for were doing it all at the same time and slowly

well no wonder, i have deodorant with aluminum air with lead from fuel, teeth cavity feelings with mercury and i smoke cause i saw superman as akid and now cant quit

i think all kind of poisons should be banned

[Das Attorney]

Does she know the sign in front of her says "Gaylord"?

[Oldschool61]

Yes we are devolving thanks to religion!

[raaaid]

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/magazines/vanderbilt-business/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/gaylord-opryland-logo.jpg

tinfoilhaton:

thats something timetravellers do ,for example theres a time line where if i was peaced at you id say something like love you or love off

[swiss]

well no wonder, i have deodorant with aluminum air with lead from fuel, teeth cavity feelings with mercury and i smoke cause i saw superman as akid and now cant quit

i think all kind of poisons should be banned

Sometimes I think you should be banned.
It's not my fault you can't quit addictive habits, it's just because you're so dang weak - where we can close the loop: I don't care.
I smoke and I drink -and I am more than fine with it. My body, my choice, my destiny.

Btw:
1.
Shaving foam contains aluminum sulfate too, probably the stuff you call aluminum-"air".
2.
Amalgam fillings are really dangerous! You should chew some aluminum foil to neutralize the toxic side-effects. :)

[Fjordmonkey]

Humans as a race isn't devolving. It's the inherent stupidity of mankind that has caught up with us. So in a way, stupidity is evolving while mankind is standing still evolutionary speaking.

And banning raaaid? Well, I do have my disagreements with him (especially over the F16-stick thing), but all in all he's fairly harmless. Just don't take his posts seriously, and view them as a glimpse into an if not twisted mind, then a badly sprained one :P

[David Hayward]

The human species gets a little dumber every time someone reads one of raaaaaaid's posts.

[Jatta Raso]

The human species gets a little dumber every time someone reads one of raaaaaaid's posts.

...and gets a big time dumber after one of yours, genius :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[David Hayward]

...and gets a big time dumber after one of yours, genius :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Right back at ya, champ!

[Jatta Raso]

Right back at ya, champ!

that makes sense. we all know you're as smart as to believe your own s***.

[Jatta Raso]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMyNk8J1c8g

no i don't think we are devolving, rather that we're just not evolving any more, we've stagnated, and the power that technology brought us ends up showing our fails better because they get bigger and more serious.

example:

100 years ago ecological insensibility caused localized issues at worst, today it threatens life on a planet-wide scale.

same with war: while 100 years ago a world total war would bring misery to half the world, today it would destroy it.

and with financial corruption: 100 years ago greed, economy schemes and financial fraud were responsible for wide spread social problems; and a period of social revolutions followed everywhere in the west, however, today the same issues are destroying our basic liberties and conquered rights on a global scale.

anyway let's hope this trend is disrupted, as technology is now bringing us a lot more information than the ones that allowed us to have it ever thought it would, and that might just lead us to a global conscience that makes us reject the corrupt covered dictatorship regimes we're all living in.

i hope, someday; we all deserve better than this.

[tk471138]

Does she know the sign in front of her says "Gaylord"?

priceless! was thinking the same thing



back in the day in order to be smart one generally had to make an effort unlike today where everyone is in these public schools and are force fed information...

now a days their are so many specializations and different types of knowledge exist its hard to say what is smart...is some physics professor who knows all the generally useless shit smart? does going to college make you smart? does have street smarts and survival skills smart? just go to any 3 or 4th year college class their are alot of idiots who will eventually get their 4 year degree...and some maybe higher..

also most of these really smart people in todays society probably wouldnt survive a week if they somehow went back to 700 years ago (for various reasons)...does that make them smart...

[theOden]

Would anyone here dare to define "smart"?

[raaaid]

Would anyone here dare to define "smart"?

im paying attention to the memory issue

check the memory juglars had 700 years ago as to memorize this withouth even being written:

http://amediavoz.com/cantardemiocid.htm

forexample i cant have a right view of my position in life for i forgot most clues

[Fjordmonkey]

Would anyone here dare to define "smart"?

Smart: The ability to learn from experiences that you have had yourself, or the idiotic errors of your fellow humans :P

[Skoshi Tiger]

Interesting report on the news today.

Apparently in Australia women (on average) have been suffering from iodine deficiencies over the last 20 years or so.

Lack of iodine in pregnant women leads to less of a certain hormone that can lead to learning difficulties in their offspring.

So I guess all of the benefit of removing lead from our fuels twenty odd years ago has been offset by health campaigns to lower salt consumption! (non-iodized salt being common)

[swiss]

Interesting report on the news today.

Apparently in Australia women (on average) have been suffering from iodine deficiencies over the last 20 years or so.

Lack of iodine in pregnant women leads to less of a certain hormone that can lead to learning difficulties in their offspring.

So I guess all of the benefit of removing lead from our fuels twenty odd years ago has been offset by health campaigns to lower salt consumption! (non-iodized salt being common)

There is a correlation between nuclear threats and iodine... ;)

[WTE_Galway]

Tech support 700 years ago (dutch with subtitles) ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRBIVRwvUeE

[swiss]

Lol!!!

[Skoshi Tiger]

There is a correlation between nuclear threats and iodine... ;)

Yes, Potassium Iodine should be in every nuclear survival kit to help reduce the chance of Thyroid cancer.

And we also know that there is also a correlation between the reduction of piracy and global warming but that does not alter the fact that iodine is necessary for proper thyroid function and in turn the development of the placenta in pregnant women. ;)

[furbs]

The human species gets a little dumber every time someone reads one of raaaaaaid's posts.

I would be willing to to bet raaaids actual IQ is higher than a lot of people who post at this forum.

raaaids posts are a little off the wall sometimes, but i find most of them entertaining and interesting.
Would i want to be stuck in a lift for 24 hours with him?...well...i dont know about that...but i bet he would come up with some ideas of how to get us out, and some of them might not kill us. :)

You carry on raaaid!

And no people are not any less smart now than 700 years ago, in fact people 10,000 years ago were just as smart as us.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Intellegence and wisdom are too very different things. ;)

[tk471138]

There is a correlation between nuclear threats and iodine... ;)

iodine has something to do with thyroid function...when their is alot of radiation in the environment a certain radioactive particle (forget which one specifically, i think its a type of iodine 131) will be absorbed by the body (in place of iodine)

thats why they sell alot of KI or potassium iodide during the fallout events, most recently the thing in japan....

[Skoshi Tiger]

iodine has something to do with thyroid function...when their is alot of radiation in the environment a certain radioactive particle (forget which one specifically, i think its a type of iodine 131) will be absorbed by the body (in place of iodine)

thats why they sell alot of KI or potassium iodide during the fallout events, most recently the thing in japan....

Quite correct TK!

Iodine is one of those things that our bodies stores in the Thyroid. Even though the isotope Iodine 131 is not very radioactive the body concentrated this in the Thyroid gland and it can be there for very long periods of time giving a very high risk of cancer.

The idea of the Iodine supplements is that if you saturate the Thyroid with non-radioactive Iodine when you ingest the radioactive isotope your body will just expel any surplus.

Potassium Iodine and iodine based water purifying systems are all good sources of the element. Iodized salt is readily available as well but if your like me on a low sodium diet I probably don't eat enough of the stuff to get the benefit from it.

But I guess when those bombs start a-droping it means screw the size limit and that salts back on the table! ;)

[sorak]

zebras are better then horses

[=CfC= Father Ted]

zebras are better then horses

Well, they're stripier, at least

[fruitbat]

Well, they're stripier, at least

i prefer mustangs to zebras,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Horsescd1l-095.jpg

they've got 50 cals....:cool:

[raaaid]

proof that zebra stripes are not to protect against mosquitos but optic camouflage to confuse predators, a depth perception thing
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrHGB6CdNKpZ4jHb1-MFhuyVOThoi4B3MUfMSnU4z2jppGwUrba1VBWtlw-g

[MB_Avro_UK]

Survival of the fittest no longer applies in the 'developed' world.

[major_setback]

Zebras confuse me.

http://kamyabology.com/tether/image/WA614838-FB~Zebra-Herd-Drinking-.jpg

[Skoshi Tiger]

Survival of the fittest no longer applies in the 'developed' world.

Ah! That explains a lot! I've always wondered how I've got this far! ;)

[Igo kyu]

Survival of the fittest no longer applies in the 'developed' world.
How not? do we not eat?

[bongodriver]

How not? do we not eat?

We do but it's not such a struggle any more to eat when we have giant supermarkets and welfare states.

[Igo kyu]

We do but it's not such a struggle any more to eat when we have giant supermarkets and welfare states.
It is true not so many die as did, but those who do die still don't breed.

[Skoshi Tiger]

I guess it depends on what we mean by "Fittest".

Do we mean physically capable or possessing attributes that advantageous in our environment?
Because in most cases we to adapt our environment to suit our needs we don’t need physical strength very often but we still need the skills, intelligence and other attributes to be successful in our society. Those that possess those skills will be at an advantage.

(If you talk to my wife you'll probally find that being able to spend thirty hours a day playing flight sims and conversing on forums is not high on that list! ;) )

[Igo kyu]

I guess it depends on what we mean by "Fittest".
It's pretty clearly a nearly circular definition. The fittest are those who survive and breed.

[major_setback]

Dear, dear, oh dear.

Re: 'Survival of the fittest'
It is one of the most misunderstood and wrongly used quotes in the world and it wasn't even coined by the man it is mostly attributed to.

From Wiki:
'Darwin first used Spencer's new phrase "survival of the fittest" as a synonym for natural selection in the fifth edition of On the Origin of Species, published in 1869. Darwin meant it as a metaphor for "better adapted for immediate, local environment", not the common inference of "in the best physical shape"'



Darmwin meant that those individuals (animal/human) best adapted to their environment would be those most likely to reach breeding age and therefore be able to pass on their genes to the next generation.

fittest = best fitted (not the most physically fit).

Being the strongest and fittest individual will not help you if you are not adapted to survive in a changed environment.

I think humans have adapted well and will continue to do so, so I don't at all agree that the phrase has no meaning today. And it even applies at an individual level. If you can't adapt you won't make it (it applies not only to physical adaptation but to behaviour/strategy too).

[raaaid]

if i wanted to breed black sheep i think i could do it in 5 generations

for example honesty nowadays makes you unfit for the enviroment

i admit myself totally unfit for this enviroment

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/08/1-in-200-men-direct-descendants-of-genghis-khan/

[WTE_Galway]

if i wanted to breed black sheep i think i could do it in 5 generations


If you start out with a mob of Black Sheep you can do it in one generation.

[tk471138]

if i wanted to breed black sheep i think i could do it in 5 generations

for example honesty nowadays makes you unfit for the enviroment

i admit myself totally unfit for this enviroment

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/08/1-in-200-men-direct-descendants-of-genghis-khan/



dishonestly makes the environment unfit...thats all...

[swiss]

If you start out with a mob of Black Sheep you can do it in one generation.

http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/g035.gif (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/smilie.php)

[tk471138]

even 100 years ago presidents were able to speak in public with out teleprompters....now the president needs his teleprompter to say simple things like:

"And now I'll take your questions."
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(picture currently on drudge report)


o how far we have come....

[Wutz]

I wonder in how many forums he is going to post this silly topic?
Found already two.

[tk471138]

I wonder in how many forums he is going to post this silly topic?
Found already two.

how many posts in how many forums will you post this silly topic

found already one