Poll- Still flying Clod?

[SlipBall]

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[SlipBall]

Today/yesterday for me first time in awhile, like what I see as far as stability goes! :)

[Stirwenn]

everyday

[skarden]

I'm away on holiday atm so I haven't played for just over a month, but I generally start CLOD up a few times a week at least, generally a bit of campaign flying during the week, and then I jump online on the weekends for a few hours.

Still enjoyin it very much.

[vranac]

you should add constantly flying in this poll :)

[pupo162]

gave it a go today t ocompare it with the ROF map. other than that, didnt touch it for about a month

[ChocsAway]

gave it a go today t ocompare it with the ROF map. other than that, didnt touch it for about a month

How was the comparison? :)

I've spent more time on CloD recently due to the excellent Desastersoft releases. They've given the sim a new lease of life for off-line players IMO.

Ther's still plenty to be fixed but It doesn't ruin the experience. I hope the modders will have some success with getting the niggles sorted.

[SlipBall]

gave it a go today t ocompare it with the ROF map. other than that, didnt touch it for about a month


Do you like the new map?

[pupo162]

Do you like the new map?

it has its advantages and shortcomings.

ASsuming COD performance was on apir with ROF, trees were colideble etc, COD map is better looking, tough ROF seems to have a more pleasent colour pallete. ROF map looks 1000x better from altitude, tough more deserted (less trees and less buildings), cities do look more dead.

i wish it was possivle to port 109s and spitfires and have a go o nthat channel map and that performance. not realistic and probably never going to happen, but it would be a more enjoyable experience.

[ElAurens]

Only on rare occasion these days.

I'm not rushing to uninstall it, but I'm not kidding myself either. It will slowly just fade away.

[Sokol1]

The true pool result: less than one hundred forum members - from 47152, include countless Tree clones :) - still play CloD... ;)

Sokol1

[SlipBall]

The true pool result: less than one hundred forum members - from 47152, include countless Tree clones :) - still play CloD... ;)

Sokol1


and a few who never visit here:-P

[rnzoli]

Forgot the option "More than a year ago".
I will probably check once every year, just to see if it runs on Win 7 32 bit.
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Edit: the Launcher still crashes while playing back the Black Death track. No improvement here, see you one year from now.

[vranac]

zoli your V4 guys are flying all the time ;)

[bladeracer]

I actually spent many more hours _trying_ to make CloD run, than I have actually playing it since I built a system that runs it properly. The game just doesn't do anything for me sorry.

[ElAurens]

The game just doesn't do anything for me sorry.

That's my issue anymore. It's a small time frame moment in history, with a limited plane set, on a map that is really limited as well.

The RAF has no serious ground attack options, and only three combat flyables in any case.

If you try to spice it up and try something different, no one will join.

It's a dead end.

And it's sad it had to be this way.

[NZtyphoon]

Haven't played for ages for several reasons:

1) Disappointed with the poor performance of so many of the featured aircraft - alleviated but not solved by latest patches.

2) I came here to try and learn about playing the game more effectively because I am not a regular flight sim player, but thought this would be an enjoyable way of relaxing - instead got caught up in endless "debates" with self-important blowhards & RAF haters who like to pretend to be experts in everything just to bolster their own self-worth.

3) Uni; exams, essays and endless assignments! plus finding holiday jobs to help pay off tuition fees etc.

[E69_vencejo]

I fly every day and i am very hapy.
This sim is fantastic.

[rnzoli]

zoli your V4 guys are flying all the time ;)
That's why I keep coming back every year to try again :)

[SlipBall]

That's my issue anymore. It's a small time frame moment in history, with a limited plane set, on a map that is really limited as well.

The RAF has no serious ground attack options, and only three combat flyables in any case.

If you try to spice it up and try something different, no one will join.

It's a dead end.

And it's sad it had to be this way.


From your postings you seem to enjoy ROF, do you find that is different with ROF? excuse the ignorance, but I've never tried ROF at all. What exciting ground attack options are there, or how do you personally enjoy the game?...I may buy it depending on your answer if you want to share it.

[SlipBall]

So far it appears that LukeFF was the only one to figure out the correct choices...flying forever all the time plus serving as a troll :lol:

[Lookaloft]

Flying CLOD every day. Fantastic game. Very happy

[ElAurens]

SlipBall,

I don't fly RoF that much either.

It's a fun sim/game for dogfighting, it really is, but I really am not very good at it as I fly so infrequently. Some players have mastered the totally non-historical sniper shot from long distances which takes some of the fun out of it. Add to that the rather dubious damage modelling and it can be a bit odd. Still fun though.

There are lots of aircraft to choose from for ground attack. Everything from the "heavy" bombers of the day (Handley Page and Gotha) to the two seaters, to bombed up single seaters. Overall my favorite is the Bristol Fighter. It's fast, can carry a good load out, and can often fight it's way out of trouble if your escorts get caught up elsewhere.

I have tried an offline campaign or two, but just like every other sim I get quicly bored offline. I am not one to be an honest judge of offline, as I am very biased about it. I don't like it in any flight sim.

Get the free trial and give it a go. It is fun, but like every other combat flight sim that has ever been made, it has it's issues.

I will say that stick time in the old kites will improve your WW2 flying. 1940's planes are so easy.

[kendo65]

Just wanted to add that I believe the "non-historical sniper shot from long distances " was eliminated in the revised gunnery update a few patches back which brought in more realistic gun synchronisation and bullet dispersion.

As for not being very good at it I had similar experiences and found it very frustrating initially - it is quite a shock to the system to get to grips with WW1 birds after being used to WW2 and later. The turns are incredibly tight and the armament is equivalent to peashooters. It took me ages to be able to hit anything.

[SlipBall]

you should add constantly flying in this poll :)


It was multi choice public poll, you could have voted on the first 4, that would indicate you fly all the time...click on the vote number, it will show the voting break down :) ...see the seven trolls :-P

[Robotic Pope]

Now that i'm a troll (for not yet having a PC powerful enough for CloD and choosing to wait for it to mature while I play 1946) I guess I will have to do something troll like. Sorry if this isn't very good this is my first time. Urmmmmm........... sigh No, it's no good I can't do it. :( I must be the weakest troll ever.

[SlipBall]

you are the pope, a kind, good hearted troll ;)

[CWMV]

SlipBall,

I don't fly RoF that much either.

It's a fun sim/game for dogfighting, it really is, but I really am not very good at it as I fly so infrequently. Some players have mastered the totally non-historical sniper shot from long distances which takes some of the fun out of it. Add to that the rather dubious damage modelling and it can be a bit odd. Still fun though.

There are lots of aircraft to choose from for ground attack. Everything from the "heavy" bombers of the day (Handley Page and Gotha) to the two seaters, to bombed up single seaters. Overall my favorite is the Bristol Fighter. It's fast, can carry a good load out, and can often fight it's way out of trouble if your escorts get caught up elsewhere.

I have tried an offline campaign or two, but just like every other sim I get quicly bored offline. I am not one to be an honest judge of offline, as I am very biased about it. I don't like it in any flight sim.

Get the free trial and give it a go. It is fun, but like every other combat flight sim that has ever been made, it has it's issues.

I will say that stick time in the old kites will improve your WW2 flying. 1940's planes are so easy.

Have you tried the Pat Wilson Campaign Generator? Its similar to DCG for IL2.

I was getting very bored with the offline campaings availible for RoF, but using PWCG makes things much more interesting. Like getting jumped by 11 Nieuports 11's in my Eindecker interesting.

[Kakashi]

LoL. I bought the game within the first month of it's release (being in US I couldn't buy it day one, though I bought it before it came out here).
Tried it, saw terrible optimisation... su 26 missing... terrible FM terrible IA.
Put it back in the closet where it belonged but had no problem with the buy since it was financing the team that was gonna make it better.

Well I checked every week... then every other months... then not at all till last month... surprise xD !!! Su 26 is up!!! Though I don't like the FM of it that much, I can finally ENJOY a virtual aerobatic airplane!!

This game has FINALLY gotten interesting.
So am I still flying CoD?? no..
I'm just starting to!
Game is now smooth with amazing FPS, graphics. and though FM aren't as amazing as I hoped they'd be, they are amazing still. :)

[Slipstream2012]

Nice poll SlipBall.

Addicted to it, haven't touched anything else for months.

[Osprey]

i wish it was possivle to port 109s and spitfires and have a go o nthat channel map and that performance. not realistic and probably never going to happen, but it would be a more enjoyable experience.

That would be useless because it's way too small and does not have the correct details for 1940.

[Kakashi]

Nice poll SlipBall.

Addicted to it, haven't touched anything else for months.

That sounded so wrong...

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

Forgot the option "More than a year ago".
I will probably check once every year, just to see if it runs on Win 7 32 bit.
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Edit: the Launcher still crashes while playing back the Black Death track. No improvement here, see you one year from now.

Lets be honest, you never really played the sim.

But people like you helped kill it.

[bladeracer]

Lets be honest, you never really played the sim.

But people like you helped kill it.


By buying it?
I bought CloD twice but I still don't play it, it's just not that great a game.

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

By buying it?
I bought CloD twice but I still don't play it, it's just not that great a game.

Actualy it is a very good ww2 cfs with ground breaking detail and features that will not have the time to blossom into a great sim.

My point was (if not infered) was that many people spent more time telling other people that they dont like the sim or its unplayable than actualy playing it(or building a proper pc so they can). The quote above is another example.

Trust me, just cause somebody claims they purchased the sim is far from supporting it or its genre.

[Skoshi Tiger]

On holidays at the moment so I'm flying a couple of times a day where possible.

By buying it?
I bought CloD twice but I still don't play it, it's just not that great a game.

I would disagree but thats just my personal opinion. Luckly we still got the original IL2 to fall back on (and our step-brothers over at RoF if your into that sort of thing).

It will be definitely interesting to see what happens with Il2:BoS.

Cheers!

PS Good to see another Sandgroper on the board!

[bladeracer]

Actualy it is a very good ww2 cfs with ground breaking detail and features that will not have the time to blossom into a great sim.

My point was (if not infered) was that many people spent more time telling other people that they dont like the sim or its unplayable than actualy playing it(or building a proper pc so they can). The quote above is another example.

Trust me, just cause somebody claims they purchased the sim is far from supporting it or its genre.


If somebody buys a game and finds that it's rubbish, they are perfectly correct in warning others before they waste their time and money on it, "trust me", that's how the market works.
Personally, I waited so long for the IL2 sequel, and wanted it to be everything that was promised. For eighteen months I tried getting it to work through a number of hardware upgrades and it was entirely unplayable, but eventually I was in a position to build a new system that I knew would be able to run it so I would be able to finally enjoy the game. Sadly, it just doesn't have anything in it that keeps me wanting to play it.
Certainly, it has _some_ very cool touches, but for me there's zero immersion or gameplay value.
Yes, it may well have developed into something even half as good as IL2, but any game can only do that from a solid base that keeps people playing it to begin with.
Does anybody know how many people bought CloD and how many people are still actually playing it? What percentage of purchasers were/are actually able to run it in a playable state?

Over-stating the qualities of the game is also not supporting it, all that does is entice more people to buy it resulting in even more disappointed customers sharing their poor opinions of it.

[bladeracer]

Actualy it is a very good ww2 cfs with ground breaking detail and features that will not have the time to blossom into a great sim.

My point was (if not infered) was that many people spent more time telling other people that they dont like the sim or its unplayable than actualy playing it(or building a proper pc so they can). The quote above is another example.

Trust me, just cause somebody claims they purchased the sim is far from supporting it or its genre.


I just noticed the ATAG in your user name.
Perhaps you enjoy CloD for its online qualities?
I have zero interest in online flying so the game's online qualities are worthless for me.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Certainly, it has _some_ very cool touches, but for me there's zero immersion or gameplay value.
Yes, it may well have developed into something even half as good as IL2, but any game can only do that from a solid base that keeps people playing it to begin with.


Do you play online or offline? I've never got into the stock campaigns, but apparently there is some fairly good third party campaigns both paidware and for free.

I normally go online at ATAG using teamspeak and if there are a few people online 20-30+ is quite common. Even with 270ms ping rate I get much better responce and less warping than I get in the original IL2. The Scripted missions are really good especially the ones with radar plots and the Refuel and rearm.

On special events they can get 100+ online at once, though the mission objects normally get blitzed and they are short matches.

Edit - just saw your post about on-line - dissregard comments where appropriate.

[bladeracer]

Do you play online or offline? I've never got into the stock campaigns, but apparently there is some fairly good third party campaigns both paidware and for free.

I normally go online at ATAG using teamspeak and if there are a few people online 20-30+ is quite common. Even with 270ms ping rate I get much better responce and less warping than I get in the original IL2. The Scripted missions are really good especially the ones with radar plots and the Refuel and rearm.

On special events they can get 100+ online at once, though the mission objects normally get blitzed and they are short matches.


Never, I don't have time to set aside for dedicated game playing. My flying happens with lots of other activities at the same time and extensive use of the pause button :-)

[bladeracer]

Edit - just saw your post about on-line - dissregard comments where appropriate.

You disagreed about my view of the game earlier, do you stand by that even if you could only play CloD offline?

I have flown online, and even enjoyed it. But mainly it seems to be twelve-year-olds that want to shoot, get hit, respawn, shoot, get hit, respawn, etc, ad finitum - not my idea of flight or history.

[ElAurens]

There was no pause button in history either.

Just saying.

In any case, this bickering is pointless.

The game is dead. I don't care how many people fly it currently, it's as dead as a door nail. No chance for further support, no expanding of theatres of operation, no new aircraft, nothing.

It's a pity, this is true, as the flight experience is unmatched by any other props and machine guns sim. But it's now just a dead end and a sad footnote in the history of computer gaming.

[bladeracer]

There was no pause button in history either.

Just saying.

That's right, there weren't any computer simulations either...

[Skoshi Tiger]

You disagreed about my view of the game earlier, do you stand by that even if you could only play CloD offline?

I have flown online, and even enjoyed it. But mainly it seems to be twelve-year-olds that want to shoot, get hit, respawn, shoot, get hit, respawn, etc, ad finitum - not my idea of flight or history.

If there was no online I'ld be exploring the 3rd party missions and campaigns in more depth. From all accounts the desastersoft addons are excelent. The scripting in CoD gives the mission builders a lot of flexability.

I spend most of my time in the Blenhiem trying to avoid fighters and I find that the low down detail and variety of objects available for mission builders is great.
It's a pitty we didn't get a chance to expand into other theatres where mud movers would have more prominence.

Cheers!

[Sokol1]

The scripting in CoD gives the mission builders a lot of flexability.


Sames possibilities of "dinamic battle", from server "Battle of France" (in Beta):

http://i47.tinypic.com/wvdhdz.jpg

Sokol1

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

I just noticed the ATAG in your user name.
Perhaps you enjoy CloD for its online qualities?
I have zero interest in online flying so the game's online qualities are worthless for me.



The Il2 franchise has always been a online sim first.

To bad you missed out, the best pilots are human.

[jamesdietz]

Almost everyday...hard to resist.I even like landing the 109...it has so much going for it eye-candy wise that i am really drawn to it...plus the third party campaigns have me coming back!

[Dark_P]

Almost everyday...hard to resist.I even like landing the 109...it has so much going for it eye-candy wise that i am really drawn to it...plus the third party campaigns have me coming back!

Same here i love this game, sure it saddens me that it wont evolve any more but who knows what the future holds :)

[SlipBall]

Yes I feel the same way, very enjoyable to fly

[MB_Avro_UK]

Same here i love this game, sure it saddens me that it wont evolve any more but who knows what the future holds :)

Yes..who knows what the future holds ;-)

[SlipBall]

Yes..who knows what the future holds ;-)

going well is it?

[bladeracer]

The Il2 franchise has always been a online sim first.

To bad you missed out, the best pilots are human.


I don't believe I've "missed out" on anything :-)
I agree with you that human opponents do provide more of a challenge sometimes, but not always. Lots of time online players are only interested in shooting, dying and respawning - there's nothing "better" in that, at least not for me.

[Stublerone]

Totally right, bladeracer. That is, why such a sim is only long term fun, if you play organized missions clan vs clan and use such dogfighting servers for training with your wingman. It is all about team work and discipline and a squadron needs rules, even on engaging such opponents. Otherwise you never learn flying correctly. But clod do not seem to easily support the com to create closed and sufficiently planned flights and dynamic scenarious building its own storyline.

In il2 we had squadrons and they organized their swarms, their wingmen and sent them to flight schools. That all created immersion, but is currently dead in clod.

[SlipBall]

Totally right, bladeracer. That is, why such a sim is only long term fun, if you play organized missions clan vs clan and use such dogfighting servers for training with your wingman. It is all about team work and discipline and a squadron needs rules, even on engaging such opponents. Otherwise you never learn flying correctly. But clod do not seem to easily support the com to create closed and sufficiently planned flights and dynamic scenarious building its own storyline.

In il2 we had squadrons and they organized their swarms, their wingmen and sent them to flight schools. That all created immersion, but is currently dead in clod.


Your advise and conclusions can not be taken seriously...maybe the new forum is best for your advice to get that sim right

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f394/SlipBall/anothertroll_zps8691fd88.jpg

[Stublerone]

No advise in my post! :) I was just commenting.

And the vote... Ehm.... Just fun, because I somehow cannot take it seriously. It will change and perhaps with the new seow thing, which was mentioned here, there will be soon flying more guys on closed servers. I felt like my small cousin tips my legs, looks up and asked a stupid question :) No insult, but I do not know, what the polls sense is.... ;)

And I will state in the new forum as soon I have the feeling, that the engine or the game is capable of doing such things. But I would say: To top the il2 and clod possibilities, they have to renew the engine dramatically. And in my view it would be better to take some engine sources of clod, too -if possible.

Otherwise some people will soon clain 777studios to make a big step backwards.

But no matter what happens to the game. If it creates longterm fun with simulation priorities, it do not matter at all. But I simply doubt it, as some of my essential wishes are too far away from their engine. But you never know.... ;)

[vranac]

And I will state in the new forum as soon I have the feeling, that the engine or the game is capable of doing such things. But I would say: To top the il2 and clod possibilities, they have to renew the engine dramatically. And in my view it would be better to take some engine sources of clod, too -if possible.

Otherwise some people will soon clain 777studios to make a big step backwards.

But no matter what happens to the game. If it creates longterm fun with simulation priorities, it do not matter at all. But I simply doubt it, as some of my essential wishes are too far away from their engine. But you never know.... ;)

:)

It will not be possible in BoS and that is sad step back.

Loft only said maybe we will think about it if BoS sells well.

It was in big thread in the Russian forum that disappeared as other threads "can we get this?" No! "Why, we have that in il2 and in CloD? "
Swooosh ;)

[SlipBall]

Your advise and conclusions can not be taken seriously...maybe the new forum is best for your advice to get that sim right

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f394/SlipBall/anothertroll_zps8691fd88.jpg

No advise in my post! :) I was just commenting.

And the vote... Ehm.... Just fun, because I somehow cannot take it seriously. It will change and perhaps with the new seow thing, which was mentioned here, there will be soon flying more guys on closed servers. I felt like my small cousin tips my legs, looks up and asked a stupid question :) No insult, but I do not know, what the polls sense is.... ;)

And I will state in the new forum as soon I have the feeling, that the engine or the game is capable of doing such things. But I would say: To top the il2 and clod possibilities, they have to renew the engine dramatically. And in my view it would be better to take some engine sources of clod, too -if possible.

Otherwise some people will soon clain 777studios to make a big step backwards.

But no matter what happens to the game. If it creates longterm fun with simulation priorities, it do not matter at all. But I simply doubt it, as some of my essential wishes are too far away from their engine. But you never know.... ;)

:rolleyes:

[Crumpp]

From all accounts the desastersoft addons are excelent.

I am getting their JG26 campaign. I wonder if they can develop new aircraft, maps, and a dynamic campaign?

Probably way beyond their scope.

[Wutz]

Played it a couple of months, but for a bomber pilot a waste of time.
De-installed it and reinstalled 1946 plus patches, more enjoyable.

Was in any case the last time I pre ordered a game!
First when reports are good will the money come on the table.