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smink1701
11-06-2012, 04:21 PM
Don't want to offend anyone with this thread but since it may be a long while before we are playing BOM I was thinking about getting DCS A-10C and wanted to hear from some folks that have purchased.
Thanks.
Mango
11-06-2012, 04:31 PM
Phenomenal product but so very different than what we're used to:
1. It's ground pounding, not dogfighting. You want to avoid enemy aircraft at all cost!
2. The challenge is not in flying (easy in the A-10) but in locating targets and learning to operate avionics and equipment.
That probably sounds obvious to most, but I had quite a shock moving from IL-2 FB to DCS: Black Shark.
Given that, I don't think anyone can say DCS: A-10 is any kind of competition to CloD (apples and oranges), but for a complete simulation of a modern aircraft, you can't do better than ED's warthog!
smink1701
11-06-2012, 04:39 PM
Thanks. I was thinking of giving it a try but wanted to see if most people who play it think it's fun. Since being fun is why I play. I think many were disappointed with Lock On and don't want to make the same mistake.
Kwiatek
11-06-2012, 04:54 PM
Better get DCS P-51.
Full clickable cocpit, all system works like in RL according with RL manual, very good flight model included take off, landings, in air handling ( i think one of the best i've seen in flight simulators) and performance very close to RL data.
The only problem is that for now there is no other prop planes in DCS. Maby in the future.
If CLOD planes would be made in the same way... :(
mcFly
11-06-2012, 05:02 PM
From what i have heard this A-10 isn't just a game. It's a simulation in the purest meaning.
It takes you weeks or months to make progress.
You have to read a lot to get an overview over all the systems.
Currently there is a sale where you can get the a-10 and black shark 2
for 18 bucks. Have to look where it was.
Fjordmonkey
11-06-2012, 07:03 PM
Thanks. I was thinking of giving it a try but wanted to see if most people who play it think it's fun. Since being fun is why I play. I think many were disappointed with Lock On and don't want to make the same mistake.
Lock On had it's flaws, but it did get better. I've played Flaming Cliffs quite a bit, and it's actually not bad....if you stick to for example the vanilla Frogfoot or the T-Frog.
If you want one mother of a challenge, pick up Black Shark 2. I don't know how many hours I spent trying to learn to fly that bird, only to have it SEVERELY punish me for any errors I did. Just like in real life. Hell, don't even need enemies, as it's insanely easy to die just through not being one step ahead of the aircraft. As McFly say above me, all DCS-products require a serious attitude towards learning to fly things on max realism. The sim will pull absolutely no punches, and it will be an insane challenge to learn. But when you start getting the hang of it, it will reward you with many, many hours of great fun. Just takes time getting there. A LOT of time...
I'm looking to pick up both DCS:World (which is free) but also all modules for it to give me the maximum amount of aircraft to fly. Just have to get done with my joystick/throttle-build first.
MadTommy
11-06-2012, 09:19 PM
I can highly recommend all the DCS products, have them all.
I have many hours in the A10c, excellent simulator. Easily worth 5 fold what you might pay for it.
The ka-50 is also excellent.
tintifaxl
11-06-2012, 09:24 PM
DCS:A-10C is the only sim I fly atm. In combination with the TM Warthog and MFDs it's a fascinating product.
I wouldn't recommend the Black Shark though, because AI sees/tracks/fires through trees. You can't hide from them, but they can from you. This is a no go for a heli sim in my opinion.
MegOhm
11-06-2012, 09:38 PM
DCS:A-10C is the only sim I fly atm. In combination with the TM Warthog and MFDs it's a fascinating product.
I wouldn't recommend the Black Shark though, because AI sees/tracks/fires through trees. You can't hide from them, but they can from you. This is a no go for a heli sim in my opinion.
Disagree...the KA50 is a blast...best chopper Sim I have ever flown... but I rarely fly single against AI...DCS World is a WIP and will only get better....Have all the modules A10C, KA-50, P51D, the free SU25T and Combined Arms..and will buy whatever DCS puts out... Quality products and a blast to fly... not true it is all ground pounding...there are dogfights to be had...The P51 cannot be hamfisted... it has a sttep learning curve
hegykc
11-06-2012, 09:41 PM
DCS is to COD, what COD is to IL2-1946 with all sim options turned off, and then some.
Anyway, if you take a look at some youtube tutorials for the A-10, you can see for yourself if it would be fun.
Then you should get it anyway because it's like getting you'r own, real, personal A-10 or a mustang for 40$.
And the P-51 is a history lesson like no other. To see what it actually took to fly these machines undisturbed is amazing. Let alone in a dogfight.
Just might not be fun fun on the first day, or week.
Skoshi Tiger
11-06-2012, 11:21 PM
I have DCS-A10c and it is a great sim. Very expensive though. It has cost me $39AUD for the sim, $580 for the Warthog, $90 for the MFD's, few bux for a second monitor plus the usual hardware upgrades.
The learning curve for procedures is steep if you go for full realism.
I haven't played it for a while because of COD so when I decide to get back into it I'll have to relearn all the weapon systems etc. :(
With the hotas set up it is a very tactile game. I would hate to try to play it using the keyboard short cuts.
Hmmm! that reminds me must check to see if anyones released a UFC!
AirHog71
11-07-2012, 12:16 AM
Got all except the Combined Arms add-on.
Me and a couple of mates are concentrating on Ka-50 but I personally enjoy all aircraft.
I hate to say this in a 1C:CoD forum but DCS have created THE premier flight sim in terms of modelling and adaptability. All that is missing is more aircraft really.
There are rumours floating about that an FW-190D is in development to compliment the P-51D.
smink1701
11-07-2012, 01:22 AM
From what i have heard this A-10 isn't just a game. It's a simulation in the purest meaning.
It takes you weeks or months to make progress.
You have to read a lot to get an overview over all the systems.
Currently there is a sale where you can get the a-10 and black shark 2
for 18 bucks. Have to look where it was.
If you can provide a link that would be great.
Thanks
mcFly
11-07-2012, 02:30 AM
http://getloadedgo.com/
Mango
11-07-2012, 02:59 AM
Looks like you missed the sale on getloadedgo.com, it was only for the weekend. They're promising another on Nov. 9.
+1 on DCS: Mustang, it justs feels like a real airplane! In 9 years of prop sims I've never seen anything like it!
Nirvi
11-07-2012, 06:39 AM
I have all the DCS modules and I simply love them. Together with a group in Multiplayer, together with TARS, it's just so much fun.
And flying the Mustang is the biggest challenge I ever had in a flightsim.
In a 30min dogfight, only 25% of the pilots were shot down, the other 75% crashed by pilot error :-P
ParaB
11-07-2012, 01:01 PM
DCS:A-10 is one of the finest flightsims I've ever played in 25+ years of computer gaming. It certainly is the most detailed one. I've been playing it for a bit over 2 years now and still can't get enough of it. DCS:A-10 with a Warthog Stick, TrackIR and rudder pedals is as close to sim-nirvana as I can get.
And don't get me started on the fun of flying the A-10 online with a human JTAC. Nirvi and the GSPB guys can attest to that.
:)
If you have at least a tiny bit of interest in the A-10 and are not afraid of complex simulations then get DCS:A-10 ASAP.
badaboom
11-07-2012, 03:55 PM
You can try The Russian SU-25 T for Free and experience it'sAdvanced Flight model,That should give you an idea what you're in for with The A-10C.The Su-25 is included when you download DCS World.
addman
11-07-2012, 09:54 PM
What can I say. If you are ready to invest a considerable amount of time learning just how to start the darned thing then you will be extremely rewarded. I remember, after days of reading and watching tutorials, when I started up the Hog and took it for the first flight, the sense of reward was unbeatable. It takes a lot of time but it gives A LOT back and on the flip side the game itself is stable and won't stand in your way of having fun like certain other software *HARKEL!*. I also recently bought Black Shark 2 and....oh boy. So yes, if you need a time filler, you can't go wrong with the Hog, I also recommend it above Black Shark if you're a beginner because let's face it, actually flying the KA-50 is a project all on it's own whilst the A-10 practically flys itself so you can focus on the systems more actively...A-10 can't hover though.:grin:
mazex
11-08-2012, 09:24 PM
Flaming Cliffs 3 is out now :)
Just took that old F-15 for a spin so no more need to hug the ground and nervously watch the RWR for enemy fighters... So nice to not be the underdog any more :) This is what I have been missing in DCS - some good ole horse power and AA missiles in abundance!
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