jane from ender could at this point the web be already selfsentient?

[raaaid]

a being whose conscience is diluted in all pcs from the world connected to the web

orson scort card predicted forums on 1977 what if he was right as well about a sentient being created through all ocs from the world

it ouccrs to me cause this game tweaks itself to better and better or could actually be being secretly patched?

edit:

ill put you an example just happened:

i restarted the pc cause i was having crash launchers

i went to my room to light a ziggy with the intention to start the game but didnt need the game started by itself on reboot

[swiss]

omg

[raaaid]

well dont blame blame orson scott card for this concept

though i believe more likely the game is being patched without us knowing

for example i have a folder with all the config that i reuse evry time i mess up

every time i copy past this folder which is dx9 i could see the propeller though the instrument panel

over the day has been solved with identical settings

secret patch or the net is now an alive being as orson scot card predicted, and hepredicted internet forums in 1977

[swiss]

Just because you don't understand it, it must be magic?

[raaaid]

i just told you how the idea came to be, the game tweaks itself

my bets are on secret patches but it reminded me of jane from enders game who was according the book a being that became sentient from all the connected pcs ffrom earth

[swiss]

he sure was the 1st; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_computers#1970s


btw, those card stories have similarities with your visions/dreams - odd, huh?

[Miss Shilling's orifice]

Just because you don't understand it, it must be magic?

Clarke's third law.

[raaaid]

maybe he wasnt the 1st to foresee a sentient computer, but i think he was the first to atribute it to the net

think about it probably all the computers from the world connected through the net makes it the hugest computer ever, maybe more conexions even than a human brain

[Das Attorney]

Yeah but all those neurons in the human brain travel quick- PC's sharing info are limited by internet speeds....

not enough data transferred quick enough to make a cognitive decision even if you added them all together.

Maybe if a quantum computer gets built then it could do this.

[raaaid]

Yeah but all those neurons in the human brain travel quick- PC's sharing info are limited by internet speeds....

not enough data transferred quick enough to make a cognitive decision even if you added them all together.

Maybe if a quantum computer gets built then it could do this.

actually the signals in the human brain has like half second delay

the reason cause you can caught a ball is because your brain is half second in the future

http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2006/10/does-brain-tap-into-future.html

Bierman recently repeated these experiments using an fMRI brain scanner and documented emotional responses in brain activity up to 4 seconds before the stimuli. Other laboratories have made similar findings.

[Miss Shilling's orifice]

actually the signals in the human brain has like half second delay

the reason cause you can caught a ball is because your brain is half second in the future

http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2006/10/does-brain-tap-into-future.html

Bierman recently repeated these experiments using an fMRI brain scanner and documented emotional responses in brain activity up to 4 seconds before the stimuli. Other laboratories have made similar findings.

I'll wait for the Nobels to be handed out before subscribing to such an extraordinary claim.

[swiss]

Yeah but all those neurons in the human brain travel quick- PC's sharing info are limited by internet speeds....

not enough data transferred quick enough to make a cognitive decision even if you added them all together.

Maybe if a quantum computer gets built then it could do this.



Wait for the biocomputers....

[swiss]

the reason cause you can caught a ball is because your brain is half second in the future

lol.

This robot's software is half a second in the future too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6pPwP3s7s4

[raaaid]

lol.

This robot's software is half a second in the future too?


not really that doesnt work as an human brain

the delay of the signal hand eye i seem to recall its go and back 1.5 seconds, exactly what the human brain is in the future

in fact force feedback is great cause the delay hand-hand is less than the hand -eye what makes you be slightly in the future(for example if someone drops anote with your finger around it the almost only way to caught it is if youre touching it slightly)

the experiment of showing neutral an emotive images and via scanner detect the precognition its been extensivily reproduced which makes it totally scientifical and on the quantum paths only avalaible for crackpots

[swiss]

the experiment of showing neutral an emotive images and via scanner detect the precognition its been extensivily reproduced which makes it totally scientifical and on the quantum paths only avalaible for crackpots

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You mean like:

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which basically is the same as:
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[Hood]

No the World Wide Web isn't sentient. Peoples' brains don't operate in the future - they estimate trajectory which is why people can miss.

Hood

[Trumper]

Why would they make secret patches,surely they would milk every bit of advertising they could out of it.

[raaaid]

well seems the neural signal speed its around 100 m/s

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/DavidParizh.shtml

that means the delay to kick a ball is like 2/100= 20 ms

20 ms for a human conscience to kick a ball

ive played online with other countries with lower ping

so the net delay is not a reason for the web not to be sentient

and what can be the processing power as a whole of all the pcs from the world?

edit:

my config changes with this game without touching it, either the sentient web or secret minipacthes though probably neither of the two but who knows :)

edit:

ill put you an example whcih really happened:

i set myself on undestructible and unlimitted ammo and oblitearted 9 biplanes ignoring them when they shot me

apparently inmediatly after when i run identical mission the game was peaced off and the biplnaes were way faster and clinbed way better than me

im almost sure i didnt have the flaps on or not going at full throtle, though i atribute this to selfadjustable ai level but who knows


here the original concept:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_(Ender's_Game)

[swiss]

im almost sure



http://greatdaneband.com/Images/lolz/dear-god-make-it-stop.jpg

[brando]

I have two comments. Firstly, here is the first sentence from the Wiki page / Jane_(Ender's_Game). I have emphasized the important adjective.

"Jane is a fictional character in Orson Scott Card's Ender series."

Secondly, I think you are confusing your abbreviations regarding response times.

Ping times in internet use are measured in milliseconds (abb: ms) while nerve responses are measured in metres per second (abb: m/s).

I don't see how you can correlate a link between these parameters in order to prove this shaky theory.

[raaaid]

a neural signal has delay just as the internet has, so this is not reason for the net to be sentient as argumented

anyway if its not now eventually it will happen

how many ai are interconected?

eventually the singularity will appear if it hasnt done already and the place can not be other that the web as scott card proposed not a single pc,

not to mention the true random number generators connected to the web which may even give it free will and therefore a spirit