MS Sidewinder Precision Pro 2...HELP

[smink1701]

For some reason CLoD will not recognize my MS Sidewinder Precision Pro 2. It has been working fine since day 1 and thru all the updates including the recent official patch. Also, when I start a SP mission there are windows open I need to close. Very strange. Joystick works normally with FSX and ROF so I know it’s a problem with CLoD. Anyone else having this problem? Would welcome some help since now the game is really unplayable.

Thanks

[BH_woodstock]

i use a MS Sidewinder FF2 and having no problems.what i would suggest is to unplug joystick and plug it back in again and i would also check game integrity through steam to make sure all the files are there and OR not corrupt.worse case is to uninstall and start over.it does not take to long anymore with steam installing games.might take a half hour.

[arthursmedley]

For some reason CLoD will not recognize my MS Sidewinder Precision Pro 2. It has been working fine since day 1 and thru all the updates including the recent official patch. Also, when I start a SP mission there are windows open I need to close. Very strange. Joystick works normally with FSX and ROF so I know it’s a problem with CLoD. Anyone else having this problem? Would welcome some help since now the game is really unplayable.

Thanks

smink, I flew CLoD fine in the early part of Saturday evening. When I fired it up again much later on all the controls had been set to default.
I think this might have been due to some sort of windows update last night.

Are you sure all you're key assignments are working too?

In the end I did system restoration back to a couple of days ago and all is well.
Very strange.:confused:

[smink1701]

OK…still not having any luck mapping controls on keyboard or joystick. I have been playing IL2, CLoD and ROF from day one without any controls issues and all of a sudden I’m having major issues!!! Arg. I have completely uninstalled the game twice and still no pitch or yaw controls on joystick with initial start. I tried mapping these controls plus things like Esc, pause, guns, flaps, etc and all work perfectly for about 30 seconds and then all (keyboard and joystick) go away. Played ROF and everything worked perfectly. It’s definitely something in CLoD that has never been there before and can’t imagine I’m the only one who’s seeing this. Woiuld love some help or else I’ll have to wait for BOM and I might be dead by then.

[smink1701]

Ok...Chicken Little checking in.

I think I may have determined my problem...I'm an idiot. I think I was messing with my joystick button assignments and I must have had a duplicate assignment and it was going to auto pilot of something else that was tuning off all controls, including keyboard commands. I loaded an older controls profile and everything was working. Arg.

[LeemzSHQ]

Ok...Chicken Little checking in.

I think I may have determined my problem...I'm an idiot. I think I was messing with my joystick button assignments and I must have had a duplicate assignment and it was going to auto pilot of something else that was tuning off all controls, including keyboard commands. I loaded an older controls profile and everything was working. Arg.

Hi smink,

Any chance you could post your ConfUser file contents? I have a Sidewinder FF 2 also and I'm unable to get anything other than Pitch and Roll to work (no throttle, no rudder). I'm really at my wits end with this. Like you, my stick works with RoF (and IL-2 1946) but I'm having no luck getting it to work properly in CloD. It simply ignores any attempt to map axes or buttons to it in the game.

In fact, I bought a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro just yesterday (thinking the old Sidewinder might be the issue) and I'm having the exact same problem with that stick too. Only Pitch and Roll works, no rudder or throttle. This stick also works with RoF and IL-2 1946.

[KG26_Alpha]

Hi smink,

Any chance you could post your ConfUser file contents? I have a Sidewinder FF 2 also and I'm unable to get anything other than Pitch and Roll to work (no throttle, no rudder). I'm really at my wits end with this. Like you, my stick works with RoF (and IL-2 1946) but I'm having no luck getting it to work properly in CloD. It simply ignores any attempt to map axes or buttons to it in the game.

In fact, I bought a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro just yesterday (thinking the old Sidewinder might be the issue) and I'm having the exact same problem with that stick too. Only Pitch and Roll works, no rudder or throttle. This stick also works with RoF and IL-2 1946.

Since the last update you will have to re-asign all hotas controls for the MSFFB2
Dumping an old confuser file in there does nothing as I have many back ups and none worked for some reason so I had to redo the hotas settings manually.

[LeemzSHQ]

Since the last update you will have to re-asign all hotas controls for the MSFFB2
Dumping an old confuser file in there does nothing as I have many back ups and none worked for some reason so I had to redo the hotas settings manually.

Well, that's disappointing news because, as I stated above, I am completely unable to assign any buttons or axes at all on any joystick I plug in. The game simply refuses to allow any input from the stick while trying to assign buttons or axes.

I have the Steam version of the game. Is there any chance there's a difference between the Steam version and the fully-patched retail version?

I'm grasping at strawers here. I know people are using both sticks that I have and they work perfectly fine for them but they're not working for me. Ugh.

[KG26_Alpha]

Well, that's disappointing news because, as I stated above, I am completely unable to assign any buttons or axes at all on any joystick I plug in. The game simply refuses to allow any input from the stick while trying to assign buttons or axes.

I have the Steam version of the game. Is there any chance there's a difference between the Steam version and the fully-patched retail version?

I'm grasping at straws here. I know people are using both sticks that I have and they work perfectly fine for them but they're not working for me. Ugh.

The Steam version is the fully patched retail version there's no other.

If you buy a dvd/hard-copy, it installs Steam and the game is installed from there.

Double click on the axes your trying to assign it brings up a box for input of the control assignation, its a bit tricky at first.
Or
Manually in C:\Users\name\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\confuser file

[HotKey pilotMove]
Joystick+AXE_RZ=1rudder
W=1throttle_wep
Joystick+Key5=1underc
Joystick+AXE_Y=1elevator
Joystick+AXE_X=1aileron
Joystick+AXE_U=-1throttle

[LeemzSHQ]

The Steam version is the fully patched retail version there's no other.

If you buy a dvd/hard-copy, it installs Steam and the game is installed from there.

Double click on the axes your trying to assign it brings up a box for input of the control assignation, its a bit tricky at first. (I've tried this with no luck. It simply won't accept any input from the joystick)
Or
Manually in C:\Users\name\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\confuser file (I've tried this as well. Also, with no luck).

[HotKey pilotMove]
Joystick+AXE_RZ=1rudder
W=1throttle_wep
Joystick+Key5=1underc
Joystick+AXE_Y=1elevator
Joystick+AXE_X=1aileron
Joystick+AXE_U=-1throttle

I will definitely try your settings above for HotKey pilotMove. Maybe I'll have better luck with that. I'll give it a shot when I get home from work.

Thanks for posting your conf settings.

[KG26_Alpha]

In hindsight its not a windows security setting (UAC) stopping the file from being over written ?

It might explain why you cant make the settings stick.


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[LeemzSHQ]

I'm happy to report the problem is solved.

I started thinking it was behaving as if it were a "protection" or "access" issue (i.e. not letting me re-map keys).

So, I created another user account with Admin privileges and logged in. Right off the bat I knew something was up because it saw the stick as a "4 axis, 8 button stick" instead of as a "Sidewinder 2". After going into the game I was able to re-map the axes and the keys to the stick. And, now, it's working flawlessly!

It is odd, however, because the account I was using is "supposed" to have Administrator privileges.

Anyway, it's working now as well as it did when I bought it 12 years ago (October 2002). And I can return the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro stick that I bought yesterday and save myself $37.

Next, I'm hoping to get my TrackIR delivered before the end of the week. Can't wait.

Thanks for the input.

[smink1701]

KG26_Alpha...Here you go

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hotkeys = HotKey BOB
difficulty=131072
lastSingleMiss=missions/Single/Bomber Intercept - Ships.mis
playerLastCountry=gb
enabledVoice=1

[HotKey BOB]
S=static
Alt F4=exit
P=pause
L=land
Alt X=exit
PrintScreen=ScreenShot


[Config viewSet]
AzimutSpeed=0.1
TangageSpeed=0.1
LenSpeed=0.1
MinLen=1.0
DefaultLen=20.0
MaxLen=30000.0
Speed=6
Offset=2

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1=1 870.400 0.000 0.600
2=1 0.000 281.600 0.500
3=1 0.000 153.600 0.500
4=1 0.000 409.600 0.500
5=1 870.400 153.600 0.600
6=1 870.400 307.200 0.600
7=1 716.800 0.000 0.600
8=1 0.000 0.000 0.600

[HotKey gui]
Escape = activate
MouseRight = popupmenu


[HotKey Console]
;BackQuote=Activate
Control Tab =Activate


[FreeFly]
MouseLeft=ResetView
A=Azimut-
D=Azimut+
S=Tangage+
W=Tangage-
Q=Kren-
E=Kren+
V=Speed+
C=Speed-

[FreeFly Config]
AzimutView=1.0
TangageView=1.0
SpeedAzimut=50.0
SpeedTangage=50.0
SpeedKren=50.0
MaxSpeed=1000.0
Acselerate=100.0

[HookViewFly Config]
timeFirstStep=2.0
deltaZ=10.0


[FreeFlyXYZ]
Left=Y+
Right=Y-
Down=X-
Up=X+
Home=Z+
End=Z-
Delete=A-
PageDown=A+
Control Left=SpeedMul
Control Right=SpeedMul
Control Down=SpeedMul
Control Up=SpeedMul
Control Home=SpeedMul
Control End=SpeedMul
Control Delete=SpeedMul
Control PageDown=SpeedMul

[FreeFlyXYZ Config]
SpeedXYZ=20.0
SpeedAzimut=20.0
SpeedMul=0.1


[HotKey artillery_gunner]
Up = GunUp
Down = GunDown
Right = GunRight
Left = GunLeft
Space = GunFire
S= StopMovement
M= StartMovement
F = FastTracking
T = FineTrackig

[Config pilotMove]
aileron=1 0.01 0.02
elevator=1 0.01 0.02
rudder=1 0.02 0
trimaileron=0 0
trimelevator=0 0
trimrudder=0 0
throttle=0.05 0.95 0.02 0.02 0.02
pitch=0 0
mix=0 0
compressor=0 0
oilradiator=0 0
radiator=0 0
flaps=0 0
underc=0 0
brakes=0 0
throttle0=0 0 0 0 0
throttle1=0 0 0 0 0
throttle2=0 0 0 0 0
throttle3=0 0 0 0 0
throttle4=0 0 0 0 0
throttle5=0 0 0 0 0
throttle6=0 0 0 0 0
throttle7=0 0 0 0 0
pitch0=0 0
pitch1=0 0
pitch2=0 0
pitch3=0 0
pitch4=0 0
pitch5=0 0
pitch6=0 0
pitch7=0 0
mix0=0 0
mix1=0 0
mix2=0 0
mix3=0 0
mix4=0 0
mix5=0 0
mix6=0 0
mix7=0 0
radiator0=0 0
radiator1=0 0
radiator2=0 0
radiator3=0 0
radiator4=0 0
radiator5=0 0
radiator6=0 0
radiator7=0 0
oilradiator0=0 0
compressor0=0 0
oilradiator1=0 0
compressor1=0 0
compressor2=0 0
oilradiator2=0 0
compressor3=0 0
oilradiator3=0 0
oilradiator4=0 0
compressor4=0 0
oilradiator5=0 0
compressor5=0 0
oilradiator6=0 0
compressor6=0 0
compressor7=0 0
oilradiator7=0 0
bombbaydoor=0 0
impellerretr=0 0
airbrake=0 0
carbheater=0 0
carbheater0=0 0
carbheater1=0 0
carbheater2=0 0
carbheater3=0 0
carbheater4=0 0
carbheater5=0 0
carbheater6=0 0
carbheater7=0 0
leslats=0 0
brakeslt=0 0
brakesrt=0 0
throttle_wep=0 0

[Config turretMove]
turretyaw=0.5 0 0
turretpitch=0.5 0 0

[HotKey vehicleDriver]
Control S=start_movement
Alt S=stop_movement
Control D=toggle_dir
Down=brake
Right=turn_right
Up=accelerate
Left=turn_left
Alt D=toggle_hand_brake

[HotKey vehicleGunner]
Space=gun_fire
[Config vehicleMove]
ower=0 0.9 0 0 0
power=0 0.9 0 0 0

[HotKey camposMouseXYZ]
MouseLeft=AT
MouseRight=XYZmove
F7=SpeedFast
F6=SpeedNormal
F5=SpeedSlow
F8 MouseLeft=Kmove

[LastFocus]
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-529535450=bSingle

[HotKey pilotMove]
Joystick1+AXE_Z=1rudder
Joystick+AXE_Z=-1throttle
Joystick2+AXE_Y=1elevator
Joystick2+AXE_X=1aileron

[HotKey view]
Control F2=outsideViewNextEnemy
Control F1=toggleShowCabin
Y=padlockViewPrev
Alt F7=outsideViewEnemyDirectGround
U=padlockViewNext
Alt F6=outsideViewEnemyDirectAir
Alt F2=outside
Alt F1=inside
M=toggleShowMirror
C=nextCabin
Shift C=changeCabin
Control C=prevCabin
Alt 9=cabin9
Alt 8=cabin8
Alt 7=cabin7
Joystick2+Key3=padlockViewForward
Alt 6=cabin6
Alt 5=cabin5
Alt 4=cabin4
Alt 3=cabin3
F8=outsideViewFollow
Alt 2=cabin2
F7=outsideViewEnemyGround
Alt 1=cabin1
F6=outsideViewEnemyAir
F5=padlockViewGround
F4=padlockView
F3=outsideViewFly
F2=outsideView
Shift F7=outsideViewFriendGround
F1=insideView
Shift F6=outsideViewFriendAir
Shift F5=padlockViewFriendGround
Shift F4=padlockViewFriend
Shift F2=outsideViewNextPlane
Shift F1=toggleAim

[HotKey viewSet]
Alt MouseLeft=DashBoard
End=fov70
PageDown=fov90
Delete=fov30
Mouse5=FOV
MouseMiddle=Rotate
F10=StartStop
MouseRight=Len
MouseLeft=Offset
NumPad/=Reset

[HotKey viewPan]
NumPad-4=PanLeft2
NumPad-3=PanRight3
NumPad-2=PanDown
NumPad-1=PanLeft3
Pov225 Joystick+Pov=PanLeft3
Pov270 Joystick+Pov=PanLeft2
Pov315 Joystick+Pov=PanLeft
Pov0 Joystick+Pov=PanUp
Pov45 Joystick+Pov=PanRight
Pov90 Joystick+Pov=PanRight2
Pov135 Joystick+Pov=PanRight3
NumPad-9=PanRight
NumPad-8=PanUp
Pov180 Joystick+Pov=PanDown
NumPad-7=PanLeft
NumPad-6=PanRight2
NumPad-5=PanReset

[HotKey viewSnap]
NumPad-4=Snap_m2_0
NumPad-3=Snap_3_0
NumPad-2=Snap_0_m2
NumPad-1=Snap_m3_0
Pov225 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_m3_0
Pov270 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_m2_0
Pov315 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_m1_0
Pov0 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_0_2
Pov45 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_1_0
Pov90 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_2_0
F9=SnapPanSwitch
Pov135 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_3_0
Pov180 Joystick2+Pov=Snap_0_m1
NumPad-9=Snap_1_0
NumPad-8=Snap_0_0
NumPad-7=Snap_m1_0
NumPad-6=Snap_2_0
NumPad-5=Snap_0_2

[HotKey timeSpeed]
CloseBracket=timeSpeedUp
OpenBracket=timeSpeedDown
Quote=timeSpeedNormal

[HotKey common]
O=door_open
Shift L=csec_lights
A=autopilot
Control O=door_close
Control L=cpri_lights
Control J=door_jettison
Control E=bailout
Alt L=cste_lights
MouseLeft=fire
Control Space=door_toggle

[HotKey pilot]
Joystick1+Key1=trigger1
Z=rudder_leftx
X=rudder_rightx
W=thtl_110
Joystick+Key15=airbrake
Control NumPad-9=site_alt_plus
V=landingflaps_d
Shift BackQuote=engselect_all
Control NumPad-8=site_dist_plus
T=thtl_psicutout
Control NumPad-7=site_spd_plus
Control NumPad-6=site_side_right
R=rad_auto
Control NumPad-5=site_auto
Control NumPad-4=site_side_left
Joystick2+Key0=trigger01
Control NumPad-3=site_alt_minus
Joystick+Key0=pitch_plus
Control NumPad-2=site_dist_minus
Control NumPad-1=site_spd_minus
I=enginei01
Joystick+Key14=trigger3
G=uc
Control Z=ruddert_left
F=landingflaps_u
Control X=ruddert_right
Control W=abwurf_arm
B=wheelbrakex
Control T=thtl_slowcutout
Equals=thtl_plus
9=extinguisher
6=rad_plus
5=rad_minus
Control G=uc_down_emer
Shift 8=engselect_n7
Joystick+Key12 Joystick+Key18=autorudder_off
Shift 7=engselect_n6
Shift 6=engselect_n5
Control C=pilot_switch
Shift 5=engselect_n4
Control B=bombbaydoors
Shift 4=engselect_n3
Shift 3=engselect_n2
Shift 2=engselect_n1
Shift 1=engselect_n0
Down=elevator_downx
Right=aileron_rightx
Up=elevator_upx
Left=aileron_leftx
Control 7=rudder_leftx
Joystick+Key12 Joystick+Key17=autorudder_low
Shift Down=elevatort_ndown
Shift Right=aileront_right
Space=trigger0
Shift Up=elevatort_nup
Shift Left=aileront_left
Joystick+Key12 Joystick+Key16=autorudder_high
Joystick1+Key3=trigger2
Joystick+Key3=pitch_auto
MouseLeft=MouseControl
Underscore=thtl_minus
Backspace=thtl_wep
Joystick+Key2=pitch_minus

[HotKey turret]
Control O=trt_park_toggle
Down=trt_mount_d
Right=trt_mount_r
Up=trt_mount_u
Left=trt_mount_l
Shift Down=trt_down
Shift Right=trt_right
Shift Up=trt_up
Shift Left=trt_left

[HotKey orders]
9=order9
8=order8
7=order7
6=order6
5=order5
4=order4
3=order3
2=order2
1=order1
0=order0
Escape=deactivate
Alt=select
Control=expand
Enter=Enter
Tab=activate
Backspace=Backspace

[HotKey vehicle]
Down=brake
Right=turn_right
Up=accelerate
Left=turn_left
Alt D=toggle_dir
Space=fire

[HotKey builder]
NumPad-4=stepAzimut-15
NumPad-3=stepAzimut30
NumPad-1=stepAzimut-30
NumPad-0=insert+
Alt MouseRight=select-
Alt MouseLeft=select+
Alt Control=unselect
A MouseLeft=battleArea
Control Z=Undo
Control Y=Redo
Control X=cut
Control V=paste
Insert=insert+
Control C=copy
Control B=addBranch
Home=change--
End=change++
PageDown=change+
PageUp=change-
Delete=delete+
MouseRight=popupmenu
F10=land
MouseLeft=objectMove
Shift MouseLeft=worldZoom
Enter=freeView
NumPad.=delete+
Tab=cursor
Backspace=cursor
Alt Right=Forward
Alt Left=Backward
NumPad-9=stepAzimut5
NumPad-8=resetTangage90
NumPad-7=stepAzimut-5
NumPad-6=stepAzimut15
Control MouseRight=delete+
NumPad-5=resetAngles
Control MouseLeft=insert+

[HotKey builderMouseXYZ]
F4 MouseRight=Zmove
F5 MouseLeft=Amove
Mouse5=Amove
MouseRight=XYmove
MouseLeft=Len
F6 MouseLeft=Tmove
F3=SpeedFast
F2=SpeedNormal
F1=SpeedSlow
F7 MouseLeft=Kmove

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[KG26_Alpha]

I think the threads getting confusing, I'll close it.

OP and LeemzSHQ have fixed their problems.

:grin: