Help; learning english

[chantaje]

Hi, i had a very basic english education in the past (mostly grammar) and i need to learn to speak english more or less fluently for a job. knowing that there are a lot of bilingual people here i ask your help,
can you recommend me a method to make my pronunciation better and cleaner?
what do you do to improve your pronunciation?

S!, thanks in advance

ps: i tried with youtube, there are a lot of good videos out there but it seems that dosnt help me much.

[pupo162]

Join a squad, fly 1 hour a day, and talk to them, the higher the ammount of true-born speakers the better, but if there are some weird accents in the mix it will also improve your compreension skills.

you will be swearing like a true brit in 2 months, and having fun while doing it.

that did the trick for me 3 years ago.

PD: te digo mas, yo no hablava espanol de todo, y levo 2 años en uns ecuadron español y ya entiendo perfectamente español y consigo hablar mas o menos. Escrevir me va bastante mal como ves :P

[Continu0]

watch movies in english and with english (!) subtitles!

[Trumper]

There really isn't an easy way to learn "perfect" English as there are so many dialects/slang/short cuts used as normal now.
Speak slowly and speak out each word,too many foreigners speak English but far too quick and end up gabbling.

[swiss]

Join a squad, fly 1 hour a day, and talk to them, the higher the ammount of true-born speakers the better, but if there are some weird accents in the mix it will also improve your compreension skills.

The el cheapo version of a language course abroad. :)
Imho the best option.

PS: Make sure it's not local squad from Mississippi or Oakland...

[chantaje]

Thanks!! ill start to watch movies with english subs and try to join a squad today.
it really helped.

the vast mayority of english teachers here are purely teorical. they talk like sh*t.
S!!

[ATAG_Colander]

No hay nada que sea substituto de la práctica. Tienes que hablarlo cada vez que puedas por el mayor tiempo que puedas con tantas personas como puedas (que pronuncien bien). No importa si no hablas perfectamente, lo importante es que poco a poco vas a ver como mejora tu vocabulario y pronunciación.

Un dato importante, una vez que aprendes a pronunciar mal una palabra, te va a ser difícil corregir su pronunciación. Por esto te recomiendo que intentes desde el principio, el pronunciar las palabras como son.
Algo muy típico para nosotros los de habla hispana, es agregar una E antes de cualquier palabra que empieza con S seguida de otra consonante, como por ejemplo decir "Estatistics" en vez de "statistics" simplemente por que no estamos acostumbrados a palabras de ese tipo (y es mas fácil de decir :grin: ).

Suerte con el trabajo,
ATAG_Colander.

[5./JG27.Farber]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C85PyI8wlGo

[chantaje]

Gracias, estoy tratando de practicar cuando puedo, ahora cada ves que vuelo me meto en el ts del atag. Por suerte me están teniendo paciencia por mas que les queme la cabeza un poco :p muy buena gente.
Ademas estoy empezando a grabar las conversaciones, me esta ayudando mucho esto ultimo ya que puedo identificar mis errores mas rápido.

Ojala que me salga que sino voy a terminar de cajero en un supermercado , con todo el respeto que se merecen los que trabajan en supermercados. Saludos!

[Miss Shilling's orifice]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C85PyI8wlGo

Improved my vocab. Didn't know what a "bell end" was before that.

[U505]

Join a squad, fly 1 hour a day, and talk to them, the higher the ammount of true-born speakers the better, but if there are some weird accents in the mix it will also improve your compreension skills.

you will be swearing like a true brit in 2 months, and having fun while doing it.

that did the trick for me 3 years ago.

PD: te digo mas, yo no hablava espanol de todo, y levo 2 años en uns ecuadron español y ya entiendo perfectamente español y consigo hablar mas o menos. Escrevir me va bastante mal como ves :P

Not sure at all what you say, mate. you might just be put aside or even be ignored by he majority because of you lack of understanding and not being fluent enough in english : Your choice will be then easy: either you fight twice ( against enemy aircraft and against your english) or you'll give up.hope it won't occur to you and that you will find the squadron you need.
Best wishes.:grin:

[chantaje]

Thanks guys!

[swiss]

lol

[Skoshi Tiger]

Hope these terms are of use.

Cobber - your friend, as in "Howz it goin' Cobber?"
Drongo - simpleton, lacking in intelegence, as in "I aint gona hang aound you drongoes no more"
Crikey - an expression of surprise, as in "Crikey! That stingray just got me!"
Strewth - An expression of surprise, as in "Strewth! I didn't know a drongo like you could write!"

Sheila - A female, as in "Cop the over hang on that Sheila!"

Mate - has many meanings as in your friend (see cobber), your enemy as in "Listen mate, get yer eyes off my shiela", Someone you've just met as in "Hey mate, When can a bloke get a root around here?"

Root - to foricate.


Ooop! Sorry, you're trying to improve your English, not your Australian!

:)

[Trumper]

:) Isn't "brace yourself Sheila " Australian foreplay :grin:

[pupo162]

Hope these terms are of use.

Cobber - your friend, as in "Howz it goin' Cobber?"
Drongo - simpleton, lacking in intelegence, as in "I aint gona hang aound you drongoes no more"
Crikey - an expression of surprise, as in "Crikey! That stingray just got me!"
Strewth - An expression of surprise, as in "Strewth! I didn't know a drongo like you could write!"

Sheila - A female, as in "Cop the over hang on that Sheila!"

Mate - has many meanings as in your friend (see cobber), your enemy as in "Listen mate, get yer eyes off my shiela", Someone you've just met as in "Hey mate, When can a bloke get a root around here?"

Root - to foricate.


Ooop! Sorry, you're trying to improve your English, not your Australian!

:)

OK, completely OT but

CRIKEY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ0xEBXhvQU

[raaaid]

i find forums a great way to extend vocabulary

i dont mind having british or american accent i have spanish accent cause im spanish

oh and if youre learning english dont go to malta ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAFQFvSPhQ8

[major_setback]

Improved my vocab. Didn't know what a "bell end" was before that.



Could you improve mine? What is a 'Miss Shilling's Orifice'?

EDIT: I found out what it is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Shilling's_orifice
(I was a bit disappointed).




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[Miss Shilling's orifice]

Could you improve mine? What is a 'Miss Shilling's Orifice'?

It was a fuel flow restrictor designed to mitigate the effects of carburetor and supercharger flooding in RAF planes during negative-g maneuvers. The aircraft in this game just missed out on this feature I am told. Was designed by a very cool Beatrice 'Tilly' Shilling who as well as being a boffin was well into motorcycle racing.

[Ataros]

Having a talk radio playing in the background all day long helps pronunciation a lot from my experience. In a couple of months you get a natural feel of the language without any extra time spent.

A nice and free radio player http://www.radiosure.com/downloadz/

[chantaje]

Thanks Ataros ill try that.

sorry U505 , i misunderstood you. i know what you say, unfortunately for the moment its my only choice , there are not too many native english speakers willing to have a long talk where i live

S!