Should I buy this?

[jpcamden]

Ok, first off, let me post my computer specs I guess.

Asus G74SX
GTX 560M
12GB Ram
i7 2630qm

Now I'm curious, will it run fairly well? I've been reading reviews but obviously they're from over a year ago and they mention that it runs horribly. I'm hoping to hear from someone who has a similar graphics card and their experiences with it.

Also, have people started modding stuff yet? I play Arma almost daily and it's very fun with my clan/group or whatever you want to call it. But when it was reviewed, it didn't get great reviews either. Has this game gotten some amazing mods yet that make the game awesome?

I just bought a joystick online, it should come in the mail in a few days, so I want a flight sim, and I saw this game so I'm stoked. I played 1946 on my xbox but never got great at realistic / simulation since I was using a crappy controller (plus I didn't play long enough to become awesome I suppose.) I realized there was a newer one so I was really excited until I saw the reviews.


So basically my questions are:
1. Can I run it well?
2. Is the game more stable/fun since its release?
3. Can you play coop? I want to play with some friends but I don't want to have to fight to the death.
4. It's $30 on steam, but on Amazon it's 16 for download, and 7.50 for dvdrom. If I download it via Amazon, will it activate on Steam? I prefer it that way, but can't quite tell.

Thanks guys for reading.

PS:

Also, a side question:
Is the community playing 1946 or CoD more?


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[MadBlaster]

just play here spit-109-hsfx/1946. it's new server.
http://www.warbirdsofprey.org/
don't worry about dying. we don't care. bring your friends. ;)

CLoD is still in beta. They are no longer developing it. Luthier (project manager) said there will only be one more patch and will try to cram in as much stuff as possible. They have moved on to work on the next project.

[Verhängnis]

Also, a side question:
Is the community playing 1946 or CoF more?

Plenty of mods at the SAS. :-P

[lokitexas]

Better off buying IL2:1946 and mod it up.

No, the modders have not gotten ahold of CLoD, and never will maybe. It still full of bugs, and support is getting dropped. Also, communication about the future of CLoD is pretty much silent.

Want a real combat sim, with real support, mods, and active mature community? Pick up DCS. Want to stay with WWII era? Your only hope is IL2 with mods (such as HSFX).

This product, as it is now, and has been since release, is a waste.

[Skoshi Tiger]

just play here spit-109-hsfx/1946. it's new server.
http://www.warbirdsofprey.org/
don't worry about dying. we don't care. bring your friends. ;)

CLoD is still in beta. They are no longer developing it. Luthier (project manager) said there will only be one more patch and will try to cram in as much stuff as possible. They have moved on to work on the next project.

Which should install over the top of COD.

[zapatista]

Because I don't want to pay for a game that's as unplayable as the reviewers claim it is. I figure if people are modding it now and it's way better than when it came out, you guys (the ones on the official forums) would know about it.

I don't want to know if you like the game. I want to know if it's better than it was when it came out, since it's been a year and a half or however long.

Also, a side question:
Is the community playing 1946 or CoF more?

in short, yes it will run fairly well on your system (check if your gfx card has more then 1gb of memory, 2 gb is best)

CoD is quite playable in its current state (since the last beta patch specifically), but is still in a relatively unfinished and has a few annoyances (for ex a few control inputs are reversed in some planes, and a bomb sight might not work correctly on another). some flight models also need adjusting/improving (specifically the allied fighters), and some aircraft over perform (like the 109, being to tolerant to engine abuse for ex)

but what you get with CoD is a major leap upwards in aircraft and landscape detail compared to the earlier il2 series, and even with its current limitations you can have a good experience flying on some of the better online servers (ATAG for ex). the offline experience is more limited because the AI commands for friendly planes dont work to well (there are some work arounds), and you'd need to download some free user created campaigns because the included ones are near non existent (there are some payware addon campaigns to, but no need to go that far)

i would say, take the plunge and grab CoD (but avoid paying full RRP). there are several significantly reduced sale prices available at different times. be prepared for some problems, but it is worth jumping into the melee at this point because CoD is starting to become what it should be, a next gen ww2 flightim better then any other competing product on the market. there is a final non-beta patch due out soonish which will fix many of the main annoyances and will polish the sim more, and by mid next year we might have the next installment in the series (but that is a long wait, with possible fluid release dates)

there are a number of frustrated players that will only focus on the negatives (of which there are some) and a few trolls who only come to moan because they want attention, but if you focus on the positives and we get the anticipated main fixes soon in this final patch, the sim is quite playable (just dont expect a finished and polished product)

edit: oops didnt realize your system was a laptop, but looking at the specs (http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G74SX/#specifications) most of what i said should still apply, since GPU seems to have 2 or even 3 gb ram, and you have a good i7 (mobile) cpu. hopefully somebody with more knowledge on laptop performance compared to desktop systems will know more

[planespotter]

Review made sept 2012 include beta patch...it's fair.

http://bobgamehub.blogspot.dk/p/cliffs-of-dover-review.html

[Stirwenn]

I'd think that for Cliff the 560M (laptop) is a bit short .

[hiro]

yeah the video card is short . . .

there is a reason why gamers still prefer desktops . . .

I'd say don't get this game unless you have a beast of a system, and while you do have good specs, you can probably run it, but not on full settings.

At my last job we had a quad laptop similar but with 3.0 AMD setup (but the card was more powerful a 2 gigger) and had 16 gig and giant flash memory instead of the raptor 15's RPM HDD's.

It would only run this game if we allocated extra virtual memory. The game kept running it and then the whole laptop would shut down. And we had go into BIOS settings to turn off the "safety" (if it uses up 100% clock cycles for more than a min) because CLOD would overwork it and the default was to shut it down.

It'd get super hot but we had one of those fan cool pads. The game would work but a few to several seconds of frame by frame every several minutes . . .

The funnies was when we put trees in, you'd get instances of bullet time slowness like 5 minutes of normal, then frame by frame, then 2 mins bullet time etc.

Also on the laptop the main issue was the full on HOTAS, pedals, mouse / kb, would never work.

Some laptops are set to run USB devices one at a time (but so fast a human can't recognize it) but the controllers were choppy (meaning the pedals would register, then stop, then the stick registers, then stops, then the throttle). When we ran it joystick + kb + mouse it worked flawless. Then we tried using a USB tree device, but that was major fail, after every reboot it'd lose the CH settings and while less choppy it would work.

We also had an alien ware gaming laptop but it could use all USB devices at once. Clod worked but the alienware had more CTD's and it hated the trees.

[Chivas]

COD is unfinished, and support has not be dropped, as there will be atleast one more patch, and then support for the standalone version of COD might end. Although I personally think there will be more patches, testing features of the series, atleast until the first Sequel is released.

The COD map, aircraft, missions and campaigns will be included in the Sequels, so COD should see further benefit from the improvements made to the AI, COMMANDS, FM, DM, GUI, FMB, Graphic improvements, Clouds/Weather etc by the developer and user made missions/campaigns built with these new improvements. Not to mention new aircraft built for the Sequels that could be used historically or otherwise on the COD map. The Channel Map should live long and prosper as long as the development continues the Sequel business model, which they still suggest they are doing. There is an pending announcement which should bring more clarification on the future direction of the development.

There are people enjoying what the COD has to offer now, while others are waiting for improvements to fly the sim again. You could wait and see if the series becomes successful or invest a few dollars now when the development desperately needs it to survive. No pressure. ;)

[senseispcc]

ok, first off, let me post my computer specs i guess.

Asus g74sx
gtx 560m
12gb ram
i7 2630qm

now i'm curious, will it run fairly well? I've been reading reviews but obviously they're from over a year ago and they mention that it runs horribly. I'm hoping to hear from someone who has a similar graphics card and their experiences with it.

Also, have people started modding stuff yet? I play arma almost daily and it's very fun with my clan/group or whatever you want to call it. But when it was reviewed, it didn't get great reviews either. Has this game gotten some amazing mods yet that make the game awesome?

I just bought a joystick online, it should come in the mail in a few days, so i want a flight sim, and i saw this game so i'm stoked. I played 1946 on my xbox but never got great at realistic / simulation since i was using a crappy controller (plus i didn't play long enough to become awesome i suppose.) i realized there was a newer one so i was really excited until i saw the reviews.


So basically my questions are:
1. Can i run it well?
2. Is the game more stable/fun since its release?
3. Can you play coop? I want to play with some friends but i don't want to have to fight to the death.
4. It's $30 on steam, but on amazon it's 16 for download, and 7.50 for dvdrom. If i download it via amazon, will it activate on steam? I prefer it that way, but can't quite tell.

Thanks guys for reading.

yes

[Tree_UK]

I wouldn't buy it now, I would wait , if you buy now then the game will be missing lots of the promised features, the next patch is the last and if it is anything like the previous patches it will break as much as it fixes. After the final patch there will be no more support for CLOD, it will be officially dead, the only way to get the missing promised features will be to buy the sequel (surprise surprise), the sequel will allegedly contain everything that is in CLOD, but this time the game will work, i.e, no more building pop ups, stuttering, flickering trees, broken netcode, trees you can fly through etc etc etc. So it makes sense to wait for the sequel and only pay once.

[SlipBall]

I enjoy it quite a bit, I'm sure the lap top of yours is enough to play the game. No doubt you would have to play at lower settings though.

[Lurker_71]

I wouldn't buy it now, I would wait , if you buy now then the game will be missing lots of the promised features, the next patch is the last and if it is anything like the previous patches it will break as much as it fixes. After the final patch there will be no more support for CLOD, it will be officially dead, the only way to get the missing promised features will be to buy the sequel (surprise surprise), the sequel will allegedly contain everything that is in CLOD, but this time the game will work, i.e, no more building pop ups, stuttering, flickering trees, broken netcode, trees you can fly through etc etc etc. So it makes sense to wait for the sequel and only pay once.

Take this advice, unless you have no problem throwing your money away.

[Stublerone]

In short: You will always have priblems running games on a notebook. Notebooks are simply to slow to run such things sufficient. It gets clear to eberybody, if you compare a desktop, which needs 500-600 watts in work and a notebook can be driven by a battery. That should be clear to everybody, that this gap will always be there. Run a desktop to play or buy a console. No need to bother around with a crappy notebook, which is more expensive with far less power, than a desktop.

I am sorry to say that. I am looking forward to the first guy, trying to run this game on an ipad. :) Notebooks are for working mobile, but not for running high end application or even games. Simply not possible.

[Outlaw]

I wouldn't buy it now, I would wait , if you buy now then the game will be missing lots of the promised features, the next patch is the last and if it is anything like the previous patches it will break as much as it fixes. After the final patch there will be no more support for CLOD, it will be officially dead, the only way to get the missing promised features will be to buy the sequel (surprise surprise), the sequel will allegedly contain everything that is in CLOD, but this time the game will work, i.e, no more building pop ups, stuttering, flickering trees, broken netcode, trees you can fly through etc etc etc. So it makes sense to wait for the sequel and only pay once.

My interpretation of the sequel path is that the sequel, Battle of Moscow (or whatever it's called), will be a STAND ALONE game that will install OVER COD if desired. You will NOT get COD content in the sequel. If you already own COD then the game/graphics engine will be patched to that in the sequel.

I'm probably wrong though.


--Outlaw.

[Chivas]

You be wrong. ;)

[MadBlaster]

Merging dx9 CLoD with a "dx10 only" BOM/MMO. I wonder how that will work.:confused:

[Skoshi Tiger]

Merging dx9 CLoD with a "dx10 only" BOM/MMO. I wonder how that will work.:confused:

Given that DX-9 is a subset of DX10, any DX9 commands should work in a DX-10 environment.

If you are buying a DX-10 only game then you should have DX-10 Hardware.

But since the graphics engine used by the series is being rewritten then once you install the sequel it will be a DX10 only sim. Like the previous version of the game I assume once you install the sequel it will not be compatable with previous versions of the game.

Over the life the original IL2 - up until this very day infact, this was considered the norm and due the improvements that came with every episode of the series no sensible person complained too much!

You need to remember that IL-2 was released in 2001 and that was in the DX8.somethink era. It survived the transition to DX9

But those were simpler days! Still we probably don't have worry about it too much now-a-days.

[MadBlaster]

I think I agree with that assessment. Bottom line, if you want CLoD to run the new re-write of the graphics engine they have been working on the past year or so, you will have to upgrade your hardware/software to dx10 or higher. Also, don't expect much, if any, performance improvement if you are running window xp from the final CLoD patch with all the goodies crammed in. Pathetic. They really shouldn't have advertised and included DX9 specification from the get go. I wonder how much additional sales they made off that? They got one from me, but probably lost on on the future sequel. So, what comes around...:(