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Tavingon
07-26-2012, 08:33 PM
http://warthunder.ru/upload/image/TREES/uk_planes.png

My jaw dropped when I saw what was flyable!:)

I want the Whitley and Wellington so bad!

bongodriver
07-26-2012, 08:54 PM
So many planes....but only one FM.

nearmiss
07-26-2012, 09:31 PM
So many planes....but only one FM.

and a DM with huge hit boxes.

addman
07-26-2012, 09:37 PM
I won't touch it unless it CTD's often and randomly, that's for sure!

WTE_Galway
07-26-2012, 11:16 PM
Boomerang Mk I .... scary stuff

Feathered_IV
07-27-2012, 02:25 AM
Beaufort, Whirlwind... If they can hit the bar set by Il-2 at least, they will get some business from me. The development team do not seem hopelessly disorganised and they appear to be making solid progress.

nearmiss
07-27-2012, 03:49 AM
I have boxes full of old air combat flight sims and there are only a few that every put together anything worth the effort play them. The list of flyable aircraft in the starter post of this thread is not that impresseive, look at the aircraft available and in progress with IL2.

Don't sell yourself short. I would suggest before you waste your money, go back to IL2 Sturmovik with mods and the Diadalos Teams mods. You may get a shock to your system. It's improved significantly. The war theatre possibilities are huge, awesome map additions, the aircraft selection is huge, the AI is improved, the sound is awesome, etc. The online game is still there as well.

The cost of producing an air combat flight sim genre of game is huge. COD is still in progress and there are some very dedicated people working on it. Look at the kinds of changes and improvements that keep coming at us. I mean the COD is extremely complicated application and it is only on one map.

If you have the money and time to spend trying things go for it. I did... that is why I have boxes full of air combat sim games that I haven't installed on my system in years... LOL

Gosh, that sounds bad when I say it... "I haven't installed on my system in years". The years part really gets me.

JG53Frankyboy
07-27-2012, 04:59 AM
it will be a free2play title MMO. At least in its general features one can test it without 'wasting' money.
http://warthunder.com/en/news/38/current/

tintifaxl
07-27-2012, 09:22 AM
it will be a free2play title MMO. At least in its general features one can test it without 'wasting' money.
http://warthunder.com/en/news/38/current/

The feature list is impressive. Definately on my radar for coop flying.

Ataros
07-27-2012, 11:55 AM
IMO it will be a nice and well put together game but the most expensive air-combat game in history. I spent about USD 350+ playing WOT back in 2010 during about 6 months while waiting for CLoD.

This one will be more expensive it seems. The only way to limit expenditure by USD10 - 15 per month is to relax, stick to planes of tier 3-4 and not care about higher levels completely.

Feathered_IV
07-27-2012, 12:43 PM
Could be the cheapest for me. It's the obscure crap planes that interest me most, and most of those are the first ones available. I will hardly be shelling out for Dora's and P-51's anytime soon.

Tavingon
07-27-2012, 04:19 PM
It's going to be amazing.. will be happy to fly the gladiator and swordfish even if it is 'simple'

Bewolf
07-27-2012, 04:27 PM
I am a bit sceptical. They have a British, American, German, Russian and prossible Japanese tree, full of planes.

How the heck will they manage to get this huge amount of aircraft, FMs and DMs even remotely close to even IL2 standarts without a team of dozens of programmers?

von Pilsner
07-27-2012, 04:33 PM
I am a bit sceptical. They have a British, American, German, Russian and prossible Japanese tree, full of planes.

How the heck will they manage to get this huge amount of aircraft, FMs and DMs even remotely close to even IL2 standarts without a team of dozens of programmers?

Will be interesting to see if the FMs are as good as some of the beta testers would have us believe... (I certainly hope they are)

I have not seen any performance data on the planes in-game so I guess we'll have to wait and see....

addman
07-27-2012, 04:44 PM
It's going to be amazing.. will be happy to fly the gladiator and swordfish even if it is 'simple'

I'll be your wingman then Tavs! :)

How the heck will they manage to get this huge amount of aircraft, FMs and DMs even remotely close to even IL2 standarts without a team of dozens of programmers?

Who said they will/could? I'm sure it will be somewhat simplified considering the amount of planes.

SiThSpAwN
07-27-2012, 05:21 PM
Will be interesting to see if the FMs are as good as some of the beta testers would have us believe... (I certainly hope they are)

I have not seen any performance data on the planes in-game so I guess we'll have to wait and see....


War Thunder isnt a Sim, if you go into it expecting a sim you will be dissapointed, if you go in hoping for a fun WWII air combat game with some sim like qualities you will be happy.

von Pilsner
07-27-2012, 05:25 PM
War Thunder isnt a Sim, if you go into it expecting a sim you will be dissapointed, if you go in hoping for a fun WWII air combat game with some sim like qualities you will be happy.

Ohhh, that is too bad. :(

Hopefully it will still be something I can enjoy.

addman
07-27-2012, 05:27 PM
Ohhh, that is too bad. :(

Hopefully it will still be something I can enjoy.

You just have to take it for what it is and you will enjoy it. Clod for example, I take it for nice tech demo with lovely cockpits and it does those things great!

SiThSpAwN
07-27-2012, 05:45 PM
You just have to take it for what it is and you will enjoy it. Clod for example, I take it for nice tech demo with lovely cockpits and it does those things great!

Yup, its a good game, just not a Simulation, least not to the level of IL2 or DCS, etc.

Tavingon
07-27-2012, 05:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul9tbPopm0o&feature=relmfu

Some good footage of titans here

Robotic Pope
07-27-2012, 06:01 PM
So many planes....but only one FM.

The Flight models for most planes in WT originate from those in Il-2 1946.

Tavingon
07-27-2012, 06:06 PM
Some shots

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot2-2012.05_1.jpg

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot4-2011.10.jpg

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot4-2012.02.jpg

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot11-2012.05.30.jpg

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot5-2012.05.11.jpg

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot3-2012.03.16.jpg

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot1-2012.05.11.jpg

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot3-2011.12.22.jpg

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot6-2011.12.2.jpg

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot2-2011.10.jpg

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot14-2012.02.jpg

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot16-2011.12.jpg

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot6-2012.02.jpg

Ataros
07-27-2012, 06:08 PM
This is how it looks in full realism settings so far (WIP)
http://youtu.be/C4qqQqFRHbs

Stalingrad map review and some combat (full realism WIP)
http://youtu.be/H_Gjdubt9U0
(intro is from this great WWII aviation movie http://youtu.be/ajHWPeZoZNU (English subs))

Tavingon
07-28-2012, 06:27 PM
Submitted beta request.. looking forward quite a lot.. Hawker fury!

nearmiss
07-28-2012, 07:13 PM
I wonder why we are seeing the recent releases of Russian air combat sims with dark gradient borders?

Looks cartoonish to me. I'm guessing that is more appealing to console players.

Rjel
07-29-2012, 01:41 AM
I thought it looked pretty decent. The planes looked very good. Lots of them in the air at one time too. Others can argue realism, if it "feels" like I'm flying, I'd buy it. That was the first thing I felt when the original IL2 demo was released. The sense of movement was better than any other sim I'd flown before. I'll keep an eye on this one.

kestrel79
07-29-2012, 02:17 AM
Looks good, no doubt I'll give it a go. But we still haven't seen any heavy bomber cockpits or gunner positions modeled. As a bomber pilot who likes realism this disturbs me.

GutterRat13
07-29-2012, 04:28 AM
Some shots

http://warthunder.com/upload/image/1000x700/shot4-2012.02.jpg



I'm not usually a rivet counter, but shouldn't the Mosquito have V-12s? Looking at that screen it has V-10s! ;)

But that aside looks like something that could definitely be fun to play

Skoshi Tiger
07-29-2012, 05:40 AM
I'm not usually a rivet counter, but shouldn't the Mosquito have V-12s? Looking at that screen it has V-10s! ;)

But that aside looks like something that could definitely be fun to play

The Mosquito was such a beast that they removed the spark plugs from the last two cyliders on each motor to give the Japanese a fighting chance! ;)

pstyle
07-29-2012, 11:10 AM
The Flight models for most planes in WT originate from those in Il-2 1946.

yeah pretty pictures.. but not for me I think.

mikelt
07-29-2012, 01:53 PM
Anyone here signed up for their beta ? how long does it takes to get the beta key from them? I signed up yesterday and still haven't got any email from them.

Zorin
07-29-2012, 02:14 PM
I'm not usually a rivet counter, but shouldn't the Mosquito have V-12s? Looking at that screen it has V-10s! ;)

But that aside looks like something that could definitely be fun to play

The number of exhaust stacks depends on the engine fitted and a V-12 does not need 12 exhaust stacks.

GutterRat13
07-29-2012, 03:19 PM
The number of exhaust stacks depends on the engine fitted and a V-12 does not need 12 exhaust stacks.

I'm not saying it does need a stack per cylinder, five stacks for a bank of six cylinders just seems odd to me! I did to a little research and it is right to have five. I just have never noticed before, and most mosquito pictures I've seen have fairings over the exhausts.

I wish I had a Mosquito here so that I could de-cowl the engines though to see what's going on with the "missing" stacks (more or less which cylinders were paired or if the exhaust is plumbed somewhere to run something else like a power recovery turbine)

EDIT: Looks like I'm off topic so we should leave it at that or start a new thread!

Tavingon
07-29-2012, 03:24 PM
Anyone here signed up for their beta ? how long does it takes to get the beta key from them? I signed up yesterday and still haven't got any email from them.

Same here, just waiting.. cant wait tho

von Pilsner
07-30-2012, 11:38 AM
Anyone here signed up for their beta ? how long does it takes to get the beta key from them? I signed up yesterday and still haven't got any email from them.

I signed up months ago and have not got an email... I think it's pretty random.

Specht
07-30-2012, 12:13 PM
While not being a simulator, I'm getting tempted to try this game out, I really need something to fill the hole IL-2 1946 left when I stopped playing it...

planespotter
07-31-2012, 01:55 PM
What am I missing? This is Wings of Prey as online MMO right? Same crappy flight models, same hollywood effects and damage modelling. Except you have to pay $$$$ to for every level up aircraft.

All WoP was missing was the big cartoon words saying 'BLAM' and 'POW' every time a wing blew off. The videos for this title are look the same identical to WoP.

NOT a flight sim.

mikelt
07-31-2012, 02:01 PM
What am I missing? This is Wings of Prey as online MMO right? Same crappy flight models, same hollywood effects and damage modelling. Except you have to pay $$$$ to for every level up aircraft.

All WoP was missing was the big cartoon words saying 'BLAM' and 'POW' every time a wing blew off. The videos for this title are look the same identical to WoP.

NOT a flight sim.

It has a realistic flight model too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Gjdubt9U0

SiThSpAwN
07-31-2012, 02:21 PM
NOT a flight sim.

No one is claiming it is...

BH_woodstock
07-31-2012, 02:45 PM
i recieved an email and invite for the beta but it would not work .it is a shame to see another flight game posted in these forums.

Feathered_IV
08-01-2012, 02:02 AM
What am I missing? This is Wings of Prey as online MMO right? Same crappy flight models, same hollywood effects and damage modelling. Except you have to pay $$$$ to for every level up aircraft.

All WoP was missing was the big cartoon words saying 'BLAM' and 'POW' every time a wing blew off. The videos for this title are look the same identical to WoP.

NOT a flight sim.

I thought so too initially, but apparently it is going to be much more involved than that.

FS~Phat
08-01-2012, 02:30 AM
I thought so too initially, but apparently it is going to be much more involved than that.

Yes you are correct.
I understand they bought the rights to use the old IL2 flight model when they released the original WoP.. this is being built on with more detailed damage models, more simulation options but still not quite up to the level of COD.

I have to come to think of it as fitting in between the old IL2 and COD and I think it will suit a wider more casual gamer audience, with enough fidelity for us more hardcore players to give it a run when we dont have the time for the hardcore SIM.

As we all get older most of us have less time so more importance is placed on gameplay than simulation. So I think it will have its place as a balance between SIM and satisfying casual game play. If you watched some of the Alpha videos in simulation mode you can see the DM are less sophisticated but it has certainly improved on WoP. The thing that disturbed me most about WoP was the poor engine sounds and over simplified FM. These are now reportedly a lot closer to the old IL2 with perhaps even better engine sounds than both IL2 and COD.

I see it as a good thing that War Thunder will start a new era and incubator for casual WWII flight'sim' gamers that will eventually want to try something a bit harder and go for IL2 COD and its subsequent sequels.. by witch time, all of the first couple years dramas of COD will hopefully be long forgotten... :)

Remember most of us got our grounding in the MS CFS series (or even earlier) so perhaps a large proportion of us wouldnt have discovered or had the patience to learn to Fly IL2... I still remember the newbies joining servers and asking "how do I take off without crashing?" ;) oh those were the days! :D

mikelt
08-01-2012, 04:09 AM
i recieved an email and invite for the beta but it would not work .it is a shame to see another flight game posted in these forums.

Wow nice for you, when did you sign up ? I'm waiting for it too, really want to try it out.

pencon
08-01-2012, 04:46 AM
I bought Wings Of Prey while waiting for COD to come out and I can't even get past the stupid arcade mode because it's too long and incredibly boring . So there it sits on the shelf , covered in dust .All in all a huge dissapointment .

NZtyphoon
08-01-2012, 08:53 AM
I'm not usually a rivet counter, but shouldn't the Mosquito have V-12s? Looking at that screen it has V-10s! ;)

But that aside looks like something that could definitely be fun to play

Nope, they have that right - the forward exhaust manifold on the Mosquito combined the first two cylinders.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k304/Major_Sharpe/mos_fb_15.jpg

von Pilsner
08-01-2012, 05:49 PM
I have to come to think of it as fitting in between the old IL2 and COD and I think it will suit a wider more casual gamer audience, with enough fidelity for us more hardcore players to give it a run when we dont have the time for the hardcore SIM.

I hope you are correct, the shortcomings of WoP make me a bit nervous as to how War Thunder will be (simply because the dev team is the same guys and if these issues were not important in WoP will they be addressed in WT?)

-Small Maps (makes bombing boring and leads to airquake style games)
-Arcade objectives in SP (some missions require you destroy more enemies than you have ammo)
-No mission editor
-No custom offline campaigns
-Simplified Physics
-No complex engine management
-Bombers use 3rd person view (no cockpits)
-Difficult to skin aircraft
-Game engine not open to modding
-lack of dedicated server software

But I am not in the beta so I suppose I shall have to wait and see how it is. :-P

SiThSpAwN
08-01-2012, 06:02 PM
I hope you are correct, the shortcomings of WoP make me a bit nervous as to how War Thunder will be (simply because the dev team is the same guys and if these issues were not important in WoP will they be addressed in WT?)

-Small Maps (makes bombing boring and leads to airquake style games)
-Arcade objectives in SP (some missions require you destroy more enemies than you have ammo)
-No mission editor
-No custom offline campaigns
-Simplified Physics
-No complex engine management
-Bombers use 3rd person view (no cockpits)
-Difficult to skin aircraft
-Game engine not open to modding
-lack of dedicated server software

But I am not in the beta so I suppose I shall have to wait and see how it is. :-P

Alot of that (not all) is addressed, BUT understand that there are parts of the game made easier than WoP to allow the casual flyer access. They are trying to achieve a little of both worlds, as stated above, its going to fall in the middle..

lokitexas
08-01-2012, 10:22 PM
This is what scares me about War Thunder ;

http://warthunder.com/en/game/features/12/current/


Catering to the keyboard and gamepad people makes GREAT marketing sense, but I am past that. Not what I am looking for. It will sell more, but leave people that want more out of the picture.

Also the MMO thing is something I dont like. Quake wars in WWII aircraft doesnt do it for me.

I HOPE....hope that that the touted single player and coop modes are good, or this is one I will definitly pass on.

Tavingon
08-04-2012, 09:30 AM
It's going to be a long, long, long wait I'm afraid but the choice of planes is brilliant.. the only thing thats missing for me is the battle, the walrus and the defiant. Shame.

Tavingon
08-08-2012, 08:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hItyYdQxABQ

mikelt
08-09-2012, 04:26 PM
^^ Holy F*** !!

Richie
08-10-2012, 08:14 PM
Not to impressed. It's all smoke and mirrors look at the cockpits look at the aeroplanes closely. The terrain looks nice but I'd like to see it for myself.

Skoshi Tiger
08-10-2012, 11:36 PM
Boomerang Mk I .... scary stuff

"the flight model of the Boomerang is porked!!!!!!"
"Um! No, that's what they were like."
"Oh!"

FS~Phat
08-13-2012, 05:05 AM
Finally got my beta invite now that the global beta is rolling out. All those that bought WOP and registered before 12 August yesterday will automatically get an invitation.

Obviously I cant share any details or opinions but Im really looking forward to checking it out! Great to have some competition even if it's a slightly different angle on flight simulation, something to spur along the 1C dev team! ;)

addman
08-13-2012, 05:47 AM
Finally got my beta invite now that the global beta is rolling out. All those that bought WOP and registered before 12 August yesterday will automatically get an invitation.

Obviously I cant share any details or opinions but Im really looking forward to checking it out! Great to have some competition even if it's a slightly different angle on flight simulation, something to spur along the 1C dev team! ;)

Got mine yesterday! downloading now. Gonna be an interesting one. :)

mikelt
08-13-2012, 06:21 AM
Finally got my beta invite now that the global beta is rolling out. All those that bought WOP and registered before 12 August yesterday will automatically get an invitation.

Obviously I cant share any details or opinions but Im really looking forward to checking it out! Great to have some competition even if it's a slightly different angle on flight simulation, something to spur along the 1C dev team! ;)

I signed up weeks ago but didn't bought WOP, how they know if you bought it or not anyway? I want to get my beta key!

Feathered_IV
08-13-2012, 06:41 AM
Arse. Nothing in my emails today except Viagra adds and get a medical degree online.

Kupsised
08-13-2012, 09:19 AM
Got my Beta yesterday evening! I'd forgotten I'd even signed up, I think it was some time at the beginning of the year or so. Didn't get much time in yesterday though because of the Olympics closing ceremony so looking forward to getting to grips with it today.

von Pilsner
08-13-2012, 09:55 AM
Arse. Nothing in my emails today except Viagra adds and get a medical degree online.
Same here, I am interested to try it out.

Feathered_IV
08-13-2012, 10:35 AM
Same here, I am interested to try it out.

Viagra? :P

Von Crapenhauser
08-13-2012, 10:53 AM
Nice pics.
Panther jets over Korea please....Bridges of Toko Ri anyone?
Insperation for the Death Star attack in Star Wars...Along with 633 Squadron and Dambusters of course.
Great Planes as I see hope we have some campaign senarios to match,would be excelent.
Fingers crossed

Meusli
08-13-2012, 10:54 AM
Arse. Nothing in my emails today except Viagra adds and get a medical degree online.



Same here, I am interested to try it out.


You two should watch where you put it. Your email address I mean...

von Pilsner
08-13-2012, 11:00 AM
Viagra? :P

:-P

I'm not quite that old yet, perhaps the online medical degree would do me some good.

Von Crapenhauser
08-13-2012, 11:12 AM
Yup, its a good game, just not a Simulation, least not to the level of IL2 or DCS, etc.

In my opinion.

First old Ace combat games on PS1 were fun...Then later they lost all the correct if not completly accurate flight dynamics.
However they had realy good set pieces and senarios.
So accuracy reality dos,nt allways mean fun.:-P
Just hope its good fun and JUST real enough.
We have clod to adjust the level of realism in your sim.
Stll I am sticking with Clod and Rise of flight atm.
But allways open to other sims and or games.
For a bit of relaxation You cant beat a bit of Skyrim.:grin:
Just waiting for The Ye old flying machine addon lol:rolleyes:

i5 Quad 2.9
8g 1300ghz Mem
Nvidia 680 gtx 2g DDR3
MS FF2,CH pro pedals
XP pro sp3 ATM.....Win7 64 ultimate soon.

kestrel79
08-13-2012, 04:59 PM
Got my War Thunder beta invite today. Can't wait to give it a go.

robtek
08-13-2012, 05:30 PM
Got my War Thunder beta invite today. Can't wait to give it a go.

Same for me.

Tavingon
08-13-2012, 06:07 PM
Please if you get rewarded invites.. you know what to do ;)

WTE_Galway
08-13-2012, 11:43 PM
"the flight model of the Boomerang is porked!!!!!!"
"Um! No, that's what they were like."
"Oh!"

haha

They were underpowered. (same engine as the much maligned F4F-3A but worse as at least the F4F3A had a supercharger) and had a tendency to ground loop.

Nice guns though, 2 x 20mm Hispano cannon and 4 x .303 which meant they saw extensive service as a close ground support aircraft.

The supercharged version actually compared favorably with the Mk V Spit but by then Mustangs were available and the Mk V was already being superseded so only one supercharged variant was ever made.

kestrel79
08-14-2012, 02:24 PM
Because of the whole NDA thing I'm not gonna say mucha bout the game BUT I got it all downloaded and installed last night. Didn't have time to hook up my stick and pedals. Just doing some test flights with the mouse and keyboard and it looks GREAT and runs very smooth on high/max settings.

Can't wait to get some free time to really delve deeper.

mikelt
08-14-2012, 02:47 PM
I was so excited when I opened my mail and saw "war thunder" on the topic, I thought I finally got my beta key, it just was a new video.

But now everyone can join starting from 19.99$ for starter package, I would but it's pretty lame the subscription is only for couple of weeks, I prefer waiting for my invite.

GloDark7
08-14-2012, 04:29 PM
If I may...

Running on what you see in my sig:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwbm6xSXabM

Glo

Outlaw
08-14-2012, 05:34 PM
If I may...

Running on what you see in my sig:

Glo

Now don't get me wrong, I hate arcade games as much as the next, "hater", and it looks like this will be very arcade, BUT, those graphics are pretty cool.

Fortunately, for movie making, the actual physics is meaningless. I may have to bite the bullet on this one.

--Outlaw.

Tavingon
08-14-2012, 06:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI3Ps53bLA8

lensman1945
08-14-2012, 07:20 PM
If I may...

Running on what you see in my sig:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwbm6xSXabM

Glo

Hi Mr Glo!

Brilliant movie...looking impressive.

...where is my flippin' invite:confused:

tintifaxl
08-14-2012, 07:29 PM
If I may...

Running on what you see in my sig:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwbm6xSXabM

Glo

Hmh, that's with the movie setting? It gives me ~30 fps @1920x1200 and is not playable online. See my sig for my system.

GloDark7
08-14-2012, 07:59 PM
Hi Mr Glo!

Brilliant movie...looking impressive.

...where is my flippin' invite:confused:Thanks Lensman!

You should have access now or very soon.
Quoted from the Global beta press release:
...Also everyone who has purchased Wings of Prey and activated their copy at YUPLAY.com before August 12th will be granted access to the Global beta automatically.It may just require you to log into your YuPlay purchases and see if you have access.

Hmh, that's with the movie setting? It gives me ~30 fps @1920x1200 and is not playable online. See my sig for my system.

No, settings are a mixture of medium to high. Can't discuss exact settings here but feel free to ask me in CBT!

Glo

Tavingon
08-14-2012, 08:25 PM
Damn I missed that wings of prey thing

von Pilsner
08-14-2012, 08:33 PM
hi mr glo!

Brilliant movie...looking impressive.

...where is my flippin' invite:confused:

+1 :)

Rjel
08-14-2012, 09:45 PM
I never bought the previous game either but I got the invite yesterday. Maybe they are sending them out a few thousand at a time?

Feathered_IV
08-15-2012, 01:05 AM
Incredible videos. The only thing that really holds WT back artistically is the unconvincing prop shimmer and the jet-black smoke trails. Tone those down a bit and it would be near perfect.

ATAG_Snapper
08-15-2012, 01:56 AM
Wow!!! Impressive graphics!

Feathered_IV
08-15-2012, 12:39 PM
But now everyone can join starting from 19.99$ for starter package, I would but it's pretty lame the subscription is only for couple of weeks, I prefer waiting for my invite.

Oh dear, does that mean it is going to be a subscription-only setup when released? I'm fine with an upfront purchase and paid DLC, but I would not go for some warcraft pay to play model.

Tavingon
08-22-2012, 07:59 PM
VERY tempted indeed, have just split with the missus need something to occupy my time with shall I just go for it?

5./JG27.Farber
08-22-2012, 10:15 PM
I got an invite cause i unfortunatley stupidly bought Wings of Prey... So if they think I might be interested in that because of WoP they have another thing coming... Deleted. :-P

MB_Avro_UK
08-23-2012, 10:35 AM
I have boxes full of old air combat flight sims and there are only a few that every put together anything worth the effort play them. The list of flyable aircraft in the starter post of this thread is not that impresseive, look at the aircraft available and in progress with IL2.

Don't sell yourself short. I would suggest before you waste your money, go back to IL2 Sturmovik with mods and the Diadalos Teams mods. You may get a shock to your system. It's improved significantly. The war theatre possibilities are huge, awesome map additions, the aircraft selection is huge, the AI is improved, the sound is awesome, etc. The online game is still there as well.

The cost of producing an air combat flight sim genre of game is huge. COD is still in progress and there are some very dedicated people working on it. Look at the kinds of changes and improvements that keep coming at us. I mean the COD is extremely complicated application and it is only on one map.

If you have the money and time to spend trying things go for it. I did... that is why I have boxes full of air combat sim games that I haven't installed on my system in years... LOL

Gosh, that sounds bad when I say it... "I haven't installed on my system in years". The years part really gets me.


But is il2 1946 playable on Windows 7 64 ?? I tried but it would not install the patches.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro

TonyD
08-23-2012, 11:01 AM
But is il2 1946 playable on Windows 7 64 ?? I tried but it would not install the patches.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro

I recently intalled '46 and never had a problem. What error do you get? There are also some manual tweaks, but it runs beautifully :)

Tavingon
08-23-2012, 05:03 PM
YES! I got my invite today!

mikelt
08-23-2012, 05:58 PM
The game pretty sucks, just has some nice graphics and sound, I tried getting into it but all I could find are lame arcade one, tried doing a test flight on simulator and it's the same, it's many kind of system scores and kind of shit i don't like, pretty worthless game for me at least.
I DO NOT recommend anyone who's a truly flight sim fan like il-2 to waste your money on it, I'm glad I got the invite and see how lame it is.

lokitexas
08-23-2012, 08:09 PM
The game pretty sucks, just has some nice graphics and sound, I tried getting into it but all I could find are lame arcade one, tried doing a test flight on simulator and it's the same, it's many kind of system scores and kind of shit i don't like, pretty worthless game for me at least.
I DO NOT recommend anyone who's a truly flight sim fan like il-2 to waste your money on it, I'm glad I got the invite and see how lame it is.

I agree with this. Highly overated. Its basically wings of prey all over again.

SiThSpAwN
08-23-2012, 08:33 PM
I agree with this. Highly overated. Its basically wings of prey all over again.


It isnt a flight sim for sure, but then they aren't aiming for a flight sim. So I dont think its overrated, the dont claim anything more than the are giving. Besides, its F2P, you only spend what you want, if that is nothing at all then there you go... free game.

icarus
08-23-2012, 09:45 PM
I agree with this. Highly overated. Its basically wings of prey all over again.

Disagree completely.

Don't like the pay to play system at all. This is a big turn off for me.

ParaB
08-23-2012, 11:05 PM
I like it. It's not a hardcore WW2 sim but then it doesn't want to be one in the first place. It's great fun and I see myself and my buddies spending quite some time with it.

Feathered_IV
08-24-2012, 01:31 AM
Only a few hours in, bur certainly enough potential there to entertain. A good selection of aircraft and thankfully lots of Off buttons in the settings to get rid of the arcade options. Flying in Simulator mode with all the HUD elements removed is actually quite pleasant.

von Pilsner
08-24-2012, 05:55 PM
Only a few hours in, bur certainly enough potential there to entertain. A good selection of aircraft and thankfully lots of Off buttons in the settings to get rid of the arcade options. Flying in Simulator mode with all the HUD elements removed is actually quite pleasant.

Good to hear that. :D

Tavingon
08-25-2012, 11:20 AM
Well i have just got it and really enjoyed it, have been test piloting the starter planes, im going to fine tune the settings and stuff, but sure is fun with the swordfish..

Tavingon
08-25-2012, 01:45 PM
Had a HELL of a lot of fun, theres a canyon map, the rear gunner of my swordfish shot the chap behind down, i turned to fire on another and he crashed into the hill then i dropped my torpedo on a convoy for lolls!

epoch
08-26-2012, 07:57 PM
Pros:

Menu music (beautiful rendition of Mozart's Ave Verum Corpus and a rousing 2nd movement from Beethoven's 7th)
Cons:

Flying
I'm sure it'll appeal to some. I'll stick to CloD (and Spotify).

ACE-OF-ACES
08-26-2012, 08:00 PM
lol! S!

planespotter
08-26-2012, 09:57 PM
'Review' of War Thunder here...

http://bobgamehub.blogspot.com

Feathered_IV
08-27-2012, 12:51 AM
Wow, the Stalingrad summer map is a triumph, but the winter one blows it away. :grin:

icarus
08-28-2012, 03:22 AM
'Review' of War Thunder here...

http://bobgamehub.blogspot.com

A review brought to us from the Stalingrad hoax blogger :rolleyes:.

Feathered_IV
08-28-2012, 03:52 AM
Anyone who spends $300+ on World of Tanks should be considered suspect. Certainly not qualified to speak for me.

philip.ed
08-28-2012, 11:34 AM
A review brought to us from the Stalingrad hoax blogger :rolleyes:.

If you were to actually read the site, you would see that he has rectified that 'announcement' as it was the result of false information being sent to him (Heinkill). So clearly he wasn't in any way trying to dupe you, although clearly you're a little bit sore.

Slipstream2012
08-28-2012, 03:55 PM
But is il2 1946 playable on Windows 7 64 ?? I tried but it would not install the patches.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro

Yes it is, I'm running Windows 7 x64, and I've never had a single problem.