Oleg on his daily commute

[CaptainDoggles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XihQeZpwqpE

:shock: Balls of stainless steel.

[pupo162]

...or the "how to be a total idiot while driving".

Seriusly this type of people scare the crap out of me, both when im walking, driving, or just trying to sleep and they illegal race on my street. Hope they all die, crashing in some remote valley were they wont even interrupt traffic.

[Walshy]

Actually watching that was giving me a headache and making me wince ..............

[5./JG27.Farber]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XihQeZpwqpE

:shock: Balls of stainless steel.

Ive seen that before and remember thinking WHooAA! But now I watch again, I think its speeded up. There are some places where he filters and goes left then right. If that was anywhere near the speed it looks I dont think he would make it... That bike weighs about 100 kilos or 16 stone... You can throw the light weight 125's around with you hips but not the big bikes... The faster they go the harder they are to throw like that. Maybe Im wrong but my instinct maybe right. :-P Look at 4:08 for about 20 seconds... At 4:16 to 4:20 hes dipping his wing mirrors under and over the cars wing mirrors on each side.. and again around 4:40. I think you will find 5:20 more like actual speed.

Would be nice if you could see the lights change or something, then maybe I could prove it.

[CaptainDoggles]

Either way he's still f***ing nuts.

There was a guy not far from where I live who posted a youtube vid of him doing 299 km/h down the highway north of Victoria doing similar stuff.

This one gave me the willies much more than the Victoria one. You wish these guys would bounce off a stone and harmlessly (for other cars, anyways) into a ditch, but usually that's not how it happens.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Yea once you reach 90+mph its a totally different bike. 130mph on a nakid was fast enough for me... Takes forever to stop... :-P especially with single disc and back drum :-P

I had a helmit with all the lining gone and I put my chin to far up. The air nearly pulled my off the bike by my head! Happy crazy days... :cool:

[Robert]

I hate douche nozzles like this guy. I gladly await the day when a you tube video of this guy becoming road pizza is published.

[Blackdog_kt]

I've seen it before. Very impressive and very irresponsible at the same time. In any case, you can't say the guy doesn't know how to ride because he's obviously good at it. It's where he does it that's bad.

By the way, a Russian guy i know told me that it is actually illegal to chase down street racers in Russia, because they don't want them going even faster to outrun the police.

Ive seen that before and remember thinking WHooAA! But now I watch again, I think its speeded up. There are some places where he filters and goes left then right. If that was anywhere near the speed it looks I dont think he would make it... That bike weighs about 100 kilos or 16 stone... You can throw the light weight 125's around with you hips but not the big bikes... The faster they go the harder they are to throw like that. Maybe Im wrong but my instinct maybe right. :-P Look at 4:08 for about 20 seconds... At 4:16 to 4:20 hes dipping his wing mirrors under and over the cars wing mirrors on each side.. and again around 4:40. I think you will find 5:20 more like actual speed.

Would be nice if you could see the lights change or something, then maybe I could prove it.

I'm a rookie rider on a used Honda FMX 650 (it's like a supermoto but with much weaker engine). The bike weighs 163 kilos when it's fueled up and i can comfortably weave it around a manhole cover with a diameter of 70cm or so while doing 50km/h, starting the weave about 3 meters from it. In fact, whenever i am on a stretch of empty road i always practice swerving and emergency braking on imaginary obstacles, because these are the kind of skills that save your life as a bike rider.

If i can do that, i think it won't be that hard for the nutcase in the video to throw around a racing bike that's built for tight turning at speed.

The trick to make the bike lean fast and accurately is to forget about leaning by shifting your weight and use the handlebars. Body and weight positioning is always important in a bike, but there are more ways to skin a cat.

Due to the gyroscopic effect of the rotating wheels, from a speed as low as 20-40km/h (depending on the bike geometry) the bike can be leaned by using a technique called counter-steering. If you want to lean left, you turn the wheel slightly to the right, opposite of where you want to lean. The mnemonic rule is "push left to go left, push right to go right" and you condition yourself to think of initiating turns by pushing the handlebar in the direction you want to lean.

For as long as the wheel is turned, the bike will keep leaning to the opposite direction. So, what you do is to momentarily push where you want to go and once you get the lean angle you want to achieve, you straighten it out again. This is also used to straighten up the bike after negotiating a curve: turning inside the curve will make the bike go form leaning to standing straight up.

I've been using this for the past 3 months and it's safe to say that the only time i use my weight is actually to counterbalance the bike when i'm taking a corner in a small radius and i lean a lot. My bike's got a high center of gravity and if you want to lean a lot at slow speeds you will find it wants to drop on the ground, so what i do is lean the bike into the curve with counter-steering and lean my body outside of it to balance it. The bike still turns in a tight radius with quite a bit of lean, but i don't have to be rolling on the throttle like crazy to stabilize it.

However, i almost never lean the bike into a turn by shifting my weight around anymore. Counter-steering is much more efficient, accurate and instantaneous, because at city commuting speeds all it takes is a 2cm forward motion of your arm to make the bike lean. In fact it's so instantaneous that the first time i practiced it on an empty piece of road, i actually got scared i would drop the bike and i was only going 20km/h or so :-P

Plus, at higher speeds the force you need to push the handlebars increases as well, so it's hard to over-lean the bike by accident when going fast. In fact, professional race drivers have been known to occasionally bend or even break their clip-ons, it takes that much strength to counter-steer when going 250+ in a race track.

It's a perfect case of using physics to make things work for you in an easier way. It's also something i recommend to all new bike riders, learning how to do it is an essential skill not only for cornerning, but most importantly for obstacle avoidance.

EU and US studies show that the vast majority of motorcycling accidents (about 90% or so) happen in residential areas within 6 minutes of getting on the bike. In other words, someone (a kid, dog, neighbour's car) just popped out in front of you from behind corner or parked car and you don't have enough time to brake properly and stop the bike. In such a case, people either brake too hard, lock up their wheels and fall, or try to swerve but they don't do it fast enough and end up crashing on whatever's in front of them.

Using counter-steering however, it's possible to brake to the full of your bike's capabilities and when you see that it's not enough, you have bought yourself a few extra seconds to just swerve around the obstacle by rapidly and precisely leaning the bike over. I think it's the most useful skill any rider can possess ;)

[Ataros]

Used to live on this street )

I would call such driving in Moscow "Brain of stainless steel". Sorry, bike is not a recommended vehicle for Russia as it is too soft. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF3NzyiVJ90&feature=related

[ATAG_Snapper]

I found myself holding my breath for most of it. Unbelievable! I trundle around on an old Hog and obviously get passed a lot by these guys on the highway. Sometimes as they're passing they'll pull a wheelie, sort've like a derisive "salute" to the old fart on the Harley. I'm pushing 150K km on the odo of my current ride, and the only accident I've had on it was getting rear-ended by a Ducati Monster while a buddy and I were making a signalled left turn. I was thrown and bounced (leathers, helmet, and extra "padding" were all good here). Mr Street Racer, a welder by trade, was off work for 6 weeks; as I heard much later. He was charged but never heard the outcome. All I knew was my riding season was over that September night......but it was a great excuse to get the engine bored, stroked, & cammed etc. while it was in the shop all winter. :)

When I got home much, much later that night my wife jumped and asked, "What happened to you?" "A baby raccoon walked out on the road, so I slammed on the brakes and the bike kinda tipped over...." Yeah, I lied. But sometimes it keeps life less complicated.

[Robo.]

"A baby raccoon walked out on the road,

Good story mate, I laughed out loud on your baby raccoon, you should have said 'female baby raccoon'. Just perfect :eek:

The video is insane, I was dodging left / right while watching it.

[Warhound]

What really scares me about russian roads is guys like these.
This looks like an extreme case..but I've seen too many similar russian vids where people deliberately cause crashes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmZkDMXxqo0

[WTE_Galway]

That's not a typical Russian road ...

THIS is a typical Russian road ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_Rg5RxFFQg

[Warhound]

That's not a typical Russian road ...

THIS is a typical Russian road ...

Eeek after that I'd need a bottle of vodka too, that was scary even on video.

[chantaje]

that video remind me this one (why evrybody have a camera in their car there?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb4R4m75sEU&feature=plcp

[Jatta Raso]

Used to live on this street )

I would call such driving in Moscow "Brain of stainless steel". Sorry, bike is not a recommended vehicle for Russia as it is too soft. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF3NzyiVJ90&feature=related

un-fcking-believable :shock:
and me thinking ppl drive bad in Portugal.. never been to Russia (unfortunately) but from today on i'm scared of going in their roads, and i'm not even there. next GTA should be over there, rockstar hasn't discovered that mine..

[furbs]

No, Oleg leaving the release day box signing event.

[swiss]

un-fcking-believable :shock:
and me thinking ppl drive bad in Portugal.. never been to Russia (unfortunately) but from today on i'm scared of going in their roads, and i'm not even there. next GTA should be over there, rockstar hasn't discovered that mine..

Looks like 50% are booze/skill related, the other 50% due to poor maintnance of the cars(shitty brakes, shocks, tires).

Is there something like the TüV in Russia?

[drewpee]

Selfish idiots. I wounder if they would choose to care for a brain damaged quadriplegic for the rest of their lives. You want to be a hero go join a charity or volunteer fire brigade.

[swiss]

Selfish idiots. I wounder if they would choose to care for a brain damaged quadriplegic for the rest of their lives. You want to be a hero go join a charity or volunteer fire brigade.

I told my friends and girlfriend to kill me should I ever end up like this.
We actually had a discussion about the how to do it last weekend.

[Trumper]

Quick questions hopefully some one can answer

1,why are they filming the journey,is this normal? possibly blame culture and you need proof.

2, seems to be no control at junctions,just seems to be a massive free for all :o

3, i bet the hospitals must be full of injured people,do they have to have insurance there to cover this.

I find this really scary,unfortunately i believe some of these practices are tried now in this country by people moving over here.

[5./JG27.Farber]

I'm a rookie rider on a used Honda FMX 650 (it's like a supermoto but with much weaker engine). The bike weighs 163 kilos when it's fueled up and i can comfortably weave it around a manhole cover with a diameter of 70cm or so while doing 50km/h, starting the weave about 3 meters from it. In fact, whenever i am on a stretch of empty road i always practice swerving and emergency braking on imaginary obstacles, because these are the kind of skills that save your life as a bike rider.



Yea but the FMX (my first bike was the XR, its little brother) is quite high. This means you can flick it with your hips and have more manuaveabilty and in that video he is "supposedly" doing allot more than 50kmh / 30mph... Which is why I think its speeded up. The R1 is low so its harder to just flick but better on sweeping corners. It also has a longer wheel base.

Hhehe Counter steering is cool and unerving the first time you do it. Just dont do it on a blind corner. You can always lean harder (this is where you get you knee down in Jeans :-P ) but you can always counter steer harder and the delay from counter steer to leaning is massive.

[Ataros]

What really scares me about russian roads is guys like these.
This looks like an extreme case..but I've seen too many similar russian vids where people deliberately cause crashes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmZkDMXxqo0

Looks like a local village gang. They cause conflict and press a victim for money. Not very common, but may happen if you are unlucky. This is why many drive with video-recorders on - to have a proof for police. happened to me once about 12 years ago on a Moscow street: Land Cruiser came to full stop sharply in front of my Toyota Carina E. Was lucky to stop in a couple of inches. Now it is more safe in Moscow in this regard.

[Ataros]

Quick questions hopefully some one can answer

1,why are they filming the journey,is this normal? possibly blame culture and you need proof.

2, seems to be no control at junctions,just seems to be a massive free for all :o

3, i bet the hospitals must be full of injured people,do they have to have insurance there to cover this.

I find this really scary,unfortunately i believe some of these practices are tried now in this country by people moving over here.

1. See above.

2. In smaller cities there are many junctions without traffic lights yet. A car coming form the right-hand side has priority if there are no other signs.

3. There is some small insurance and there are free hospitals (lower quality).

Road deaths statistics is very bad. Main reason is roads without central separation line which causes head strikes as you can see. Sadly I have to blame corruption for this. Also in most seasons there is poor visibility due to raining and snowing. Gogol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Gogol)in 19th century mentioned that one of Russian characters is to "harness slowly but ride fast"...

Driving culture in general is an issue: Christianity is only about 1000 years old in Russia, then happened 250+ years of Tatar-Mongol yoke, then slavery was cancelled only about 150 years ago, most of people of high culture had to leave the country after 1917 or were killed by communists and then by nazis in WWII. My personal opinion only that can be wrong.

[MD_Titus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XihQeZpwqpE

:shock: Balls of stainless steel.

the world needs organ donors. and one of the drivers in the oncoming traffic to sneeze or wobble a little bit.

[GraveyardJimmy]

Are the cameras also to prove to insurance companies? Some in the 1hr+ video on crashes (p.1 of thread) will surely be trying to hide the video seeing as it was often completely the driver with the cameras fault (turning into oncoming traffic, through red lights etc).

[Trumper]

:)Thanks for the replies Ataros,be safe :)

[swiss]

Looks like a local village gang. They cause conflict and press a victim for money.

Heckler&Koch sells some neat mediators.

[Al Schlageter]

Heckler&Koch sells some neat mediators.

Why spend all that money when AK47s are cheap and easy to come by?

[5./JG27.Farber]

Looks like a local village gang. They cause conflict and press a victim for money. Not very common, but may happen if you are unlucky. This is why many drive with video-recorders on - to have a proof for police. happened to me once about 12 years ago on a Moscow street: Land Cruiser came to full stop sharply in front of my Toyota Carina E. Was lucky to stop in a couple of inches. Now it is more safe in Moscow in this regard.

This why you need a gun. No threats, no fighting... ;)

[ATAG_Snapper]

This why you need a gun. No threats, no fighting... ;)

+1

Brings to mind the old expression: "When you need a pistol, you usually need it badly!" LOL

[Al Schlageter]

Always thought one of these would make a good commute vehicle.

http://military-vehicle-photos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/1895.jpg

Don't like the way some is driving, just swivel the turret and point the cannon at them.

[5./JG27.Farber]

I saw a ferret MK I scout car for sale from 1962, road tax exempt and classic car insurance, really considered buying it. £5000

Bit like this one.

http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/large_image.php?ad=62798&cat=1

The crumple zone IS the other car :-P

[WTE_Galway]

nah ...

Or you could spend $22000 on your own rocket launcher ...

http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/products/jeeps,-trucks-a-motos-3/zil-135-rocket-launcher-266#currency=USD

http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/assets/images/products/266/1894.jpeg