after 12 years i finally passed physics, im almost an engineer :)

[raaaid]

now im two very easy subjects away from finishing

well now i nearly have two degrees ill finally work two hours a day teaching maths, physics and english for 25 euro a day

outlaw are you not gonna congratulate me you said i would never pass ;)

[TomcatViP]

Congrats Raaaid.

I am sure you'll be perfectly suited for this job with such an open mind ;)

Now things like quantic electrons beam riding will be part of our next future. :rolleyes:

~S

[Jaws2002]

Hey congrats Raaid!!! :grin:

Gret job! God help those poor kids. :) I'm sure they'll enjoy your classes.:grin:

Good luck.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

for 25 euro a day
http://varunagaur.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/318024_412552565462725_975558159_n.jpg

[swiss]

http://varunagaur.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/318024_412552565462725_975558159_n.jpg

Comes down to €12/hr - still sux though.

[raaaid]

if i wanted i could sail and make 6-7K a month, thats why my studies are so difficult

but i rather work 2 hours a day for 25 euro and have plenty of time to think how to send a casino bankrupt

oh and this will keep women away i got to an age in which i really apreciate my singularity

i usulally say to woman i have two degrees but im not willing to work more than 2-4 houtrs a day, theyre interested no more ;)

[swiss]

if i wanted i could sail and make 6-7K a month, thats why my studies are so difficult

The captain of a container vessel makes around 70k a year.
I honestly think your full of.

[raaaid]

the chief machinist behind the law earns more than a captain due to offer and demand

i would be a second machinist oficial in any ship

70000 a year its 6000 a motn more or less

http://www.jobmonkey.com/maritimejobs/second_mate.html


The salary for a second mate ranges from $300-$500 a day, depending on the ship, company or union you work for.

500*30=15000:rolleyes:

edit:

maybe you look down on me cause i could be the elite if i wanted but rather to be poor and happy

[Rince]

GZ, Raaaid!

The only thing i learned from my studies is that it was better for me to do what i wanted to do. That`s why i threw it away, and went surfing.
The money came later, but it came.

[raaaid]

today i had an exam of one of the two left easy subjects

i was the only left since he passed evrybody who went to class

i could have done the exam but this month was overloaded so i decided to leave it for december, the physics exam drained me

the thing is that ive been the biggest stupid

i finished the fist 3 years of english philology and decided not to take the next two

well from a place where there was nearly all girls to a place nearly all male :rolleyes:

for gods sake doesnt matter if i make a million a month i wont work in a grey place with no females

who would put flowers?

that why this summer im trying to take a sculpting course, you cant get more colour than working with artist who inhale trementine(yes our little secret)

check out my favourite work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtkh9nL7q4

[swiss]

500*30=15000:rolleyes:

Typically 3+ years of industry experience as a Bosun or
Mate / Minimum license OOW / Specific experience or
knowledge of ISM / ISPS / Safe working practices

What do you reckon?




maybe you look down on me cause i could be the elite if i wanted but rather to be poor and happy


1. I don't look down you
2. elite? lol!
3. your decision.
4. I think you're a delusional lunatic, but then again that's just me. :-)


edit:

for gods sake doesnt matter if i make a million a month i wont work in a grey place with no females


Only a million?
Why shouldn't there be any chicks?

who would put flowers?

Huh?



that why this summer im trying to take a sculpting course, you cant get more colour than working with artist who inhale trementine(yes our little secret)


The successful ones are on coke.

check out my favourite work


Not again. You posted this blistering bs at least 10 times before.

[Outlaw]

i finished the fist 3 years of english philology and decided not to take the next two


So, did you finish that program at a later date?

--Outlaw.

[raaaid]

not the first three years its a diploma five a licenciatura

degress aas such arre just handle from 2002 when bolonia plan entered and its 4 year

[WTE_Galway]

the thing is that ive been the biggest stupid

i finished the fist 3 years of english philology and decided not to take the next two

well from a place where there was nearly all girls to a place nearly all male :rolleyes:

for gods sake doesnt matter if i make a million a month i wont work in a grey place with no females



The traditional male dilemma ...

- You can get a job where you get to play with lots of expensive technical toys and sometimes blow sh@t up.

- OR you can get a job where there are lots of cute women.

In the movies the exciting techo careers are also filled with hot women (as a romantic interest) who have a PhD in something or other, or are career military, or are some sort of Intelligence Agency operative - but in real life the two do not go together at all. Ask any mining engineer.

[von Brühl]

oh and this will keep women away i got to an age in which i really apreciate my singularity

i usulally say to woman i have two degrees but im not willing to work more than 2-4 houtrs a day, theyre interested no more ;)

LOL, that's good.

[AndyJWest]

Once more, Raaaid provides a beacon of sanity in this Bedlam. The rest of us are tying to put the world to rights, while he concentrates on what matters - being who he wants to be, even if it confuses the hell out of everyone else...

[swiss]

even if he drains the hell out of everyone else...

fyp.
Do you have any idea how much a student actually costs?
In Switzerland it's €20-25k(taxpayer money), a year, for each one of them.
Universities are not a public service but an investment of your country - in you.

[raaaid]

whats more of a drain for society:

eductaing your self and making art cause you need litle so need to work litle so you have much time

or being a banker and robbing people

[bongodriver]

Not much difference, you're both taking money from people for your own gain and giving nothing back.

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Once more, Raaaid provides a beacon of sanity in this Bedlam. The rest of us are tying to put the world to rights, while he concentrates on what matters - being who he wants to be, even if it confuses the hell out of everyone else...

Amen. Raaaid is a good lad.....and the nastier elements of this forum need to stop picking on him and get a life. He's harmless.

Rock on Raaaid, rock on. :D

[swiss]

tick.


eductaing your self and making art cause you need litle so need to work litle so you have much time

Actually you don't educate yourself as you need the school for it - so it's more getting educated and not paying for it.
How do you finance your cost of living?
Those €25 are nowhere enough.

[raaaid]

how can i be a drain for society if my only consumptions is:

food

meds

10 euro a day for ziggies beer and coffe

are you joking

maybe people like me should be deprived of food is that what you mean?

edit:

my folks are upper class the pay me everything and solved my life(i even have a house though i live with my folks) in exchange i finish the degree studing 4 hours a day so my moms happy

thats whi i wont be contributing to the gene poll:

i wont take the responsability and this world is too horrible, at least appears so

[swiss]

how can i be a drain for society if my only consumptions is:

food

meds

10 euro a day for ziggies beer and coffe

are you joking

maybe people like me should be deprived of food is that what you mean?


So we have

food: €15

Zigs, coffee & beer: €10


meds: how much, who pays for them?

rent/power/phone: ?

Social security/insurances: ?

edit:

I see - hard to believe you're happy with the situation.
But, given you're funded "internally" it's ok.

Got very similar background, took different path somewhere tho'.

[raaaid]

yeah well im starting contributing society and exchanging the 4 hours of study for four hours of teching at 12 euro per hour

theres no much people who have a diploma in letters and another in science

i know latin and fluid mechanics

besides my plan is open a non totally legal academy and teach kids of few resources in groups for low prizes

youre confused

i know a guy who gets 1000 euro from the state cause he is crazy, i know other who gets 300 but lives with his family

they are not drain, they should not be deprived from oxigene

a drain fro society are those who steal

did you know the last big thieve jailed in sapin was roldan 20 years ago

jaume matas a minister was sentenced to five years in jail but he didnt enter

those are the parasits

[He111]

Whos he kidding?? He's off to the only country left with well paid jobs - Australia where engineers can earn $150,000+

Just watch the movie "Red Dog" and you'll get an understanding of the conditions. :grin:

.

[WTE_Galway]

Whos he kidding?? He's off to the only country left with well paid jobs - Australia where engineers can earn $150,000+

Just watch the movie "Red Dog" and you'll get an understanding of the conditions. :grin:

.

Do remember that Red Dog was made with Mining Company finance as a public relations exercise. It's a great movie but there is a certain amount of corporate propaganda going on.

BTW ... raaid is talkingbaout becoming a ships engineer working in the engine room on a boat, not a professional engineer designing bridges, dams and machinery. They are two totally different things.

[Blakduk]

Well done raaaid- ignore the negative posts.

[He111]

Do remember that Red Dog was made with Mining Company finance as a public relations exercise. It's a great movie but there is a certain amount of corporate propaganda going on.


Spoken like a true socialist .. so which are you, public servant or retired ? :grin:


BTW ... raaid is talkingbaout becoming a ships engineer working in the engine room on a boat, not a professional engineer designing bridges, dams and machinery. They are two totally different things.

We'll take anyone .. I MEAN ANYONE!! (i'm not joking - Western Australia - Northen Territory - Queensland (not to be confused with darlinghurst in Sydney) - are all deperate for any form of engineering qualitications that can be transfered into the mining industry. A ships engineer can work on LNG ships .. with Aussie union wages .. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ .. but it won't last forever ..

.

[5./JG27.Farber]

BTW ... raaid is talkingbaout becoming a ships engineer working in the engine room on a boat, not a professional engineer designing bridges, dams and machinery. They are two totally different things.

The term engineer is used too much.

Raid whats the title of the qualification? Well done by the way.

[WTE_Galway]

Spoken like a true socialist .. so which are you, public servant or retired ? :grin:

The cattle industry actually :)

Two of my sisters are married to Miners. One works underground at Mount Isa and the other in open cut coal out of Townsville.

They really appreciate the money which is awesome for two guys who basically left school at year 10 and where previously a truck driver and a farm hand on cr@p wages. They do not however have a lot of respect for the mining companies or management.

[raaaid]

The term engineer is used too much.

Raid whats the title of the qualification? Well done by the way.

diplomado en marina civil por maquinas

diploma in civil marine in machines

wow i have so much time now :) today i slept til 1600

edit:

one of my grand grand father was the sir of a region, my grandfather a miner all his life and my father was shortly a miner before becoming a mathematician

[swiss]

S
We'll take anyone .. I MEAN ANYONE!! (i'm not joking - Western Australia - Northen Territory - Queensland (not to be confused with darlinghurst in Sydney) - are all deperate for any form of engineering qualitications that can be transfered into the mining industry. A ships engineer can work on LNG ships .. with Aussie union wages .. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ .. but it won't last forever ..
.


Just checked, indeed $80k directly from university - here it's $75.

I know a few construction engineers, guess I should tell them...
Roo-country has pretty high rep in Switzerland.

[5./JG27.Farber]

diplomado en marina civil por maquinas

diploma in civil marine in machines


Cool.

Applied to study Engineering myself yesterday. Cant wait for all the work :rolleyes:

http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/qualification/pathways/q65-2.htm

[Outlaw]

diplomado en marina civil por maquinas

diploma in civil marine in machines


That's interesting, not even the mere mention of the word, "engineer".

A ships engineer is a pretty cool gig though. You get, "down and dirty", with the guts of the ship keeping everything in working order. It requires a wide breadth of knowledge across multiple systems. From electrical, control systems, mechanical equipment, and piping, it's all in there. It's a good deal for those that are mechanically minded, want to go farther than working on cars, and don't mind the fact that you spend most of your time on a ship.

Whenever I go on a live aboard dive cruise I always try and spend some time with the engineer down in the engine room. It's always a load of fun. Those big diesels (big for me, not compared to a super tanker or container ship!!) are pretty cool.

If I ever win the lottery I'm going to nab a 60' - 100' yacht for myself and get a captain's certificate so I can hit the open seas whenever and wherever I want!

--Outlaw.

[Outlaw]

Just checked, indeed $80k directly from university - here it's $75.

I know a few construction engineers, guess I should tell them...
Roo-country has pretty high rep in Switzerland.

The engineering field is coming back in the US as well. Rates plummeted for new hires and flattened out for those that managed to stay billable during the slump but they are coming back now. I even got a small raise a few months ago and now I'm doing 50 hour weeks again so life is good. That Ferrari might not be as far out in the future as I thought!

New engineering graduates are coming in at decent rates although not as good as it was a couple of years before the slump. Back then a new grad process engineer could start at $37 and hour (USD)!

--Outlaw.

[5./JG27.Farber]

New engineering graduates are coming in at decent rates although not as good as it was a couple of years before the slump. Back then a new grad process engineer could start at $37 and hour (USD)!

--Outlaw.



Yea I looked at engineers rates for a fresh engineer and they were between 20 and 37k GBP. Some of the more experience Engineers was around 50 to 75k GBP.

Im hoping the renewable energy sector will be quite prospuros in the future so Im going with that one. Plus there must be some reward in making enrgy cleanly. :-P

[TomcatViP]

The engineering field is coming back in the US as well. Rates plummeted for new hires and flattened out for those that managed to stay billable during the slump but they are coming back now. I even got a small raise a few months ago and now I'm doing 50 hour weeks again so life is good. That Ferrari might not be as far out in the future as I thought!

New engineering graduates are coming in at decent rates although not as good as it was a couple of years before the slump. Back then a new grad process engineer could start at $37 and hour (USD)!

--Outlaw.

It's catastrophic here in Fr. Young Eng are happy if they can start at 2500$ net per month. Passing 4500$ it become really difficult to get an increase.

they even employ tons of unpaid students to lower dev cost giving them (very boring) design project, even on a CAD stations with a full access to the design Model ! (When I started myself on CATIA V4 we had numerous security check implemented)

And then they say to the share holders that they are fighting hard to keep the program on track, budget and schedule. BS! Everybody know since Ford that attention is a function of the worker's motivation. And the lack of attention cost a lot at this level of responsibility. A very basic rule of management dump down the flush just to cut cost even more when we are already eating our own tail like a snake.

There is nothing good that way.

But still engineering is a rewarding job. Hold on !