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5./JG27.Farber
06-02-2012, 02:18 PM
Does anyone know where I can find max climb and max speed graphs for RL and in game Spitfire Ia and in game max climb and max speed graph for Spit IIa?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachment.php?attachmentid=9265&d=1335271743

Heres the Spit Ia speed graph for in game^

Kwiatek
06-02-2012, 02:23 PM
MAby here:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20110

and surly here:

http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/spittest.html

camber
06-03-2012, 01:23 AM
Hi Farber,

I had a problem with duplicating the "post patch speed" for the Mk1a on the B6 posted graph in your post above. I am presuming the graph is in TAS.

Graph says post patch CloD Spit I should do a top speed of 570 kmh TAS at 6200m (FTH), 540kmh TAS at 5000m.

I got a lower FTH of ~5000m vs graph 6200m (boost declines above), with 520kmh TAS at ~5000m (***). So (-20kmh TAS) at 5000m, and (-50kmh TAS) max speed. I had to reduce rpm to 2750 (full rad) otherwise I couldn't do speed runs at FTH without blowing the oil gasket, quick bursts of 3000rpm did not suggest accelleration (before near instant engine fail) though.

Would be happy to revise these in light of other's data (in case of error or my install somehow giving different results) but imo the patch FM does not match the B6 plot (at least according to the Spit guages). IAS to TAS conversion is by an approx rule (2% increase per 1000ft), a more accurate calc is not possible without knowing more about the CloD atmospheric characteristics.

camber

*** original SpitIa patch +hotfix data 245mph IAS@16500ft if anyone wishes to check.

Crumpp
06-25-2012, 02:45 PM
The Hurricane is considerably slower than it should be.....

~237mph TAS vs ~268mph TAS

The thread:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=32523

The Hurricane performance we should see in game:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=434163&postcount=22

I would use the same method of converting the data found in the game for conditions. There is also a slider control to change atmospheric conditions in game to standard as I understand.

The lapse rate in game is ~1.98C per 1000 feet.

Osprey
06-25-2012, 03:33 PM
Yes Crumpp, @ 6.25lbs boost, but as we know the Hurricane in the BoB achieved 12lbs for 5mins, yielding IRO a further 25mph top speed.

Crumpp
06-25-2012, 10:01 PM
include the addition of 100 octane for fighter command.



The support only stopped short when the facts did not support claims of the exclusive use of 100 Octane in fighter command.

bongodriver
06-25-2012, 10:27 PM
facts support claims of the exclusive use of 100 Octane in fighter command.


Fixed that for ya!

Crumpp
06-26-2012, 01:28 AM
I don't think the majority bought it either as both types are included in the game.

:rolleyes:

KG26_Alpha
06-26-2012, 11:36 AM
Thread cleaned up.

Stay on topic please.

Leave the personal attacks out of it as well.

bongodriver
06-27-2012, 07:34 AM
I think we can take 1C out of the equation, it's obvious they have a bit of a hole in their knowlege about the RAF, at least 1C have shown sense when provided with the right information, it's almost like they have been taking historical advice from some dodgy sources, more likely people with a pro LW anti RAF agenda........

Flanker35M
06-27-2012, 08:06 AM
S!

I do not think 1C has any agenda against RAF in particular. This CoD suffers from same bugs/features in FM than it's predecessor. Recall altitude performances and such? It all has been ported to CoD and now they are fixing it what has been mostly fixed by community and Team Daidalos in original IL-2 ;) Really, blaming now the game maker that they have an agenda against RAF? Made my day for laughs. Having an imperfect/flawed/buggy FM/DM/CEM engine has nothing to do with RAF/LW/VVS or any other air force ;) Luthier could model any plane to the last detail and still any of you pro-blue/red afficiandos would be whining that it is not correct.

This thread is yet another reason why I do not even bother to read anything else here than maybe Screenshots, Performance etc. as always the same accounted names are name calling, putting them selves above everyone else and being the gods of information and of course always right. This goes to both camps equally. Banana forum is not far from UBI Zoo anymore. Flight simming is a niche already and this blue vs red thing has kept MANY people I know out from it as they do not want to bother after reading a few threads like this or similar.

So please go ahead and whine of ground breaking flaws like the Spitfire seat is wrong colour or Bf109E cockpit hood has wrong sized nuts in it..Really feeling fed up with this all going on here as EVERY SINGLE thread that COULD be a fountain of information for everyone turns to a ePeen slapping contest between certain individuals and their sidekicks..and I mean ALWAYS the same ones regardless the favored side they have. MEH!

Crumpp
06-27-2012, 11:19 AM
Good Post, Flanker.