Cliffs of Dover Is Still The Best Simulator.

[MB_Avro_UK]

Hi all,

In my experience of both simulation and real life flying, Cliffs of Dover outranks all.

And by far.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[mxmadman]

Yeah man, I agree. I think most people here would agree or they probably wouldn't stick around.

What really concerns me though, is how your location is London, England, but you are not European. Please explain.

Muchos gracias.

[furbs]

Better than real life flying? ;) Whats the color of the sky in your world.

[Volksieg]

Better than real life flying? ;) Whats the color of the sky in your world.

Well... apart from if you are one of those Korean Starcraft players we read about in the papers on occasion...... less chance of dying sat at a PC? :D

[Pudfark]

Hi all,

In my experience of both simulation and real life flying, Cliffs of Dover outranks all.

And by far.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

No disrespect...that real life flying musta been "light sport"...and under 45 minutes duration. I've owned and flown the real thing and it stayed up a lot longer than 45 minutes.;)

[machoo]

Hi all,

In my experience of both simulation and real life flying, Cliffs of Dover outranks all.

And by far.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

So Cliffs of Dover is more real then real lifes?

[palker4]

It is best but only until it runs out of memory and crashes

[6S.Manu]

Hi all,

In my experience of both simulation and real life flying, Cliffs of Dover outranks all.

And by far.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Have you tried Condor Soaring?

[Volksieg]

For all its faults...

I find I am falling deeper in love with this simulator as each day passes.

............................sigh.................. ............................

:D

[ATAG_Dutch]

What really concerns me though, is how your location is London, England, but you are not European. Please explain.

Sigh...............!

[zapatista]

In my experience of both simulation and real life flying, Cliffs of Dover outranks all.

.

pretty meaningless statement unless you qualify what you like about it :)

[machoo]

Sigh...............!

London isn't in Europe. It's in England.

[mxmadman]

London isn't in Europe. It's in England.

http://www.map-menu.com/world-map-896.jpg

Please circle London, England on this map and report back. :grin:

[banned]

http://www.map-menu.com/world-map-896.jpg

Please circle London, England on this map and report back. :grin:
I like how Australia and New Zealand are the one colour. Is that because Kiwis are all over here in Australia?

[Ailantd]

London isn't in Europe. It's in England.

I would bet England itsn´t even in the world ¬¬ That must be why Hitler had so many trouble to reach it.

[machoo]

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5679/worldmap896.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/worldmap896.jpg/)

[mxmadman]

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5679/worldmap896.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/worldmap896.jpg/)

Hmm.. Cliffs of Dover really doesn't do the English Channel any justice. The scale seems just a little off by your assessment ;)

[Force10]

If it simulated being a WWII pilot, they would really have something here.

[banned]

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5679/worldmap896.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/worldmap896.jpg/)
I'm too old for the lol crap but I laughed out loud. :)

[mcmatt]

Hi all,

In my experience of both simulation and real life flying, Cliffs of Dover outranks all.

And by far.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Did you try them all? DCS: A10c

[msalama]

Yup, the DCS series is the overall best IMO too. No massive multiplay or H-t-H, true, but it's an excellent platform for groundpounding coops nevertheless...

[furbs]

Would be a bit of a bummer to CTD after 45 mins in a real aircraft. :)

[addman]

Would be a bit of a bummer to CTD after 45 mins in a real aircraft. :)

Wouldn't be so bad if you just ended up at your desktop at home, would it? I can understand what you mean though, if CTD's had you end up at a desktop at work. Imagine it yourself, sunny Sunday midday flying around in your little Cessna then BAM! Your sitting at your workdesk in the office with the tyrant of a boss breathing down your neck, now there's a CTD I'm glad we're not getting.:cool:

[Raggz]

I never use kids language but i just have to now. This thread is EPIC, lol!

[Pato Salvaje]

XD

I´m laughing a lot!!...

The best thread by far...

XD

[SG1_Lud]

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5679/worldmap896.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/worldmap896.jpg/)


No, no...:grin: A good friend of mine told me this is how british see the world
http://on.net.mk/sites/default/files/starmedia/v2/files/mapa_na_svetot.jpg

[Tavingon]

Great game.. for flight simulation its great so far.. I will get new pc soon to get the most out of it and when the patch comes out have massive battles. The most fun is getting shot at and trying to survive with one engine ect and still land..

[ATAG_Dutch]

No, no...:grin: A good friend of mine told me this is how british see the world

That's just excellent! :grin: Very long time since I saw something like that.

Thanks awfully for posting old chap! :lol:

[=XIII=Shea]

No, no...:grin: A good friend of mine told me this is how british see the world
http://on.net.mk/sites/default/files/starmedia/v2/files/mapa_na_svetot.jpg

BOGLAND U.K:evil::evil::evil:,YEA RIGHT

[=SLO=Hellcat]

CloD will *maybe* be decent in a year or two. Until then, thanks but no thanks, we'll just stay on a simulator that works as it was intended to. :)

[IvanK]

Classic :) saved to my HD before the PC mob see it .

[ATAG_Dutch]

Classic :) saved to my HD before the PC mob see it .

Yep. I think that came from an old 'Spitting Image' annual or similar.

Can you confirm, LUD?

Edit: Confirmed!! I have the book myself. :D

[SG1_Lud]

Yep. I think that came from an old 'Spitting Image' annual or similar.

Can you confirm, LUD?

Edit: Confirmed!! I have the book myself. :D

Yes it does, and is intended to be a mock on the Tories. Before anyone gets offended, please read here the full explanation and grab a better resolution pic.

http://bigthink.com/ideas/21155

S!

[SG1_Lud]

BOGLAND U.K:evil::evil::evil:,YEA RIGHT

Mine is worst, they called us GIBS :-P

[Ze-Jamz]

haha..that world map is quality

[Icebear]

God knew why he placed them on an island..... ;)

[Baron]

"The other one"? Im deeply offended.


LoL, funniest post in a long time.

[Rickusty]

No, no...:grin: A good friend of mine told me this is how british see the world
http://on.net.mk/sites/default/files/starmedia/v2/files/mapa_na_svetot.jpg

LOL!

This has got to be the best thread ever here :grin:
Good fun ;)

[smink1701]

Hi all,

In my experience of both simulation and real life flying, Cliffs of Dover outranks all.

And by far.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

CLoD is beautiful to behold, especially the cockpits...but while some pieces are very nice the product is so flawed right now...ridiculous AI, limited features, vibrating shadows, on and on and on and on...I can only enjoy for about 10 minutes doing some sightseeing and marveling at the 109 flyby sounds. But then I get bored and on to ROF or FSX. CLoD is the best WW2 combat flight sim but it's not a better overall product than ROF or FSX, IMHO.

[Tone71]

CLoD is beautiful to behold, especially the cockpits...but while some pieces are very nice the product is so flawed right now...ridiculous AI, limited features, vibrating shadows, on and on and on and on...I can only enjoy for about 10 minutes doing some sightseeing and marveling at the 109 flyby sounds. But then I get bored and on to ROF or FSX. CLoD is the best WW2 combat flight sim but it's not a better overall product than ROF or FSX, IMHO.

Agree. CLoD just hasn't pulled me in yet as much as RoF or DCS A10-C, although my sightseeing tends to be done in a Spitfire :) I've never flown anything in real life, so I can't comment on how it compares to that; I hear X-Plane 10 is pretty good in that respect.

[addman]

It's too good to ignore but not good enough to keep you playing, it lacks substance.

[fruitbat]

You've still got it Avro;)

[MB_Avro_UK]

Yeah man, I agree. I think most people here would agree or they probably wouldn't stick around.

What really concerns me though, is how your location is London, England, but you are not European. Please explain.

Muchos gracias.

Muchos gracias also,

England is not conected either physically or mentally to Europe. We are an Island race. The Germans in secret call us Island Monkeys. ( "Inselaffe"). The French probably have something else to call us :cool:

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[=FI=Scott]

I'm from an old IL2 squad and we haven't played CoD together once. There are too many issues with it. From a single player perspective it is painfull to see something that can shout at you how good it could be and then ctd or hit you with bugs to the point that you quit out with frustration.

Personally the only game that I can remember that had such a torrid infancy was Falcon 4. In its day it looked great and... well... you could just see what it was capable of. The problem I see is that Falcon 4 developed in a time where flight sims and combat sims commanded a big market sector and now they dont. CoD just doesn't have the slack Falcon had and thats a fact. Add to that CoD comes from the IL2 family of sims which pretty much blew the competition away and CoD as it stands couldn't blow the skin off a rice pudding (old Yorkshire phrase-sorry !)

I want CoD to be something that my squad, the Fighting Irish, will want to play, but week in, week out it's 'we are almost there, it will be great' just doesn't cut it any more. To me it is put up or shut up for CoD.

I know that (i) the CoD Templar Knights will blast this post and (ii) I don't give a (fill in your profanity of choice)

[Insuber]

Muchos gracias also,

England is not conected either physically or mentally to Europe. We are an Island race. The Germans in secret call us Island Monkeys. ( "Inselaffe"). The French probably have something else to call us :cool:

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Don't say so, we continental Europeans all love you Islanders ... :-)

[robtek]

Except for boar in peppermint sauce and chips with vinegar, thats abdominations! :D

Not to talk about the other ways our brothers on the island found to make food unsuitable for "normal" stomachs.
:d :D :D

[SlipBall]

Muchos gracias also,

England is not conected either physically or mentally to Europe. We are an Island race. The Germans in secret call us Island Monkeys. ( "Inselaffe"). The French probably have something else to call us :cool:

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.


England though has always enjoyed stretching her legs off that island:-P

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[ATAG_Doc]

So Cliffs of Dover is more real then real lifes?

Heck yea! I had a friend of mine get shotdown on the ATAG server by ATAG_Keller and we haven't heard from him since. This morning I read the obituary about it. And THAT ladies is what I am talkin bout. Full Real!!!

[Icebear]

Heck yea! I had a friend of mine get shotdown on the ATAG server by ATAG_Keller and we haven't heard from him since. This morning I read the obituary about it. And THAT ladies is what I am talkin bout. Full Real!!!

How old are you ?

[machoo]

Classic :) saved to my HD before the PC mob see it .


Heh yeah me too.

[Das Attorney]

edit: nvm

[Katana1000S]

http://www.map-menu.com/world-map-896.jpg

Please circle London, England on this map and report back. :grin:

A game of RISK, oh good :-P

[Katana1000S]

Hi all,

In my experience of both simulation and real life flying, Cliffs of Dover outranks all.

And by far.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

I have a little real flying experience and lots of flight sim experience, but I do think IL2 CoD will eventually pan out to be one of the best flight sims of all time, its almost there IMHO and I have high hopes for the forthcoming patch.

[Boandlgramer]

Muchos gracias also,

England is not conected either physically or mentally to Europe. We are an Island race. The Germans in secret call us Island Monkeys. ( "Inselaffe"). The French probably have something else to call us :cool:

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Long live England

[salmo]

... <snip> I want CoD to be something that my squad, the Fighting Irish, will want to play, but week in, week out it's 'we are almost there, it will be great' just doesn't cut it any more. To me it is put up or shut up for CoD. <snip>...
I tried building a simple mission today. Just a red HB & 2 blue enemy Ai flights & no scripts, but every time I ran it in FMB I got a CTD. This is simply unacceptable for a professonaly produced computer game.

I'm of the same opinion as FI=Scott. We've heard urges for patience, and phases like 'we're working on it' or 'we're nearly there' for over 6 months now. I fear that the next patch (if it comes before BOM), will offer a small improvement in fps for some in the community but not address many of the critical bugs in the game. Anyone noticed how we get pics & info of BOM, but NO information on any of the critcal (non graphical) bugs in COD being fixed?

Quite frankly, (1) the next patch needs to improve gameplay to the extent that it re-engages public interest in the game, & (2) BOM would have to be exceptionally 'clean' & work well right from the start, otherwise IMO the COD franchise is dead.

[Osprey]

LUD that is the best map ever!! LMAO!!


Only complaint, as an englishman, would be Australia, which I would call 'Prison' lol ;)

[Richie]

http://www.map-menu.com/world-map-896.jpg

Please circle London, England on this map and report back. :grin:

What's the colour coding of the map?

[taildraggernut]

What's the colour coding of the map?

The continents.... i.e.

North America, South america, Europe, Asia, Africa and Australasia