Microsoft Flight

[sorak]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/developer-diary-microsoft-flight/726559

What yall think?

Even though the "simulator' in the name has been dropped still looking allright i guess.

[nearmiss]

This is just a way for microsoft to capitalize on addons. You get to download it for free and probably pay an online fee, and for every adventure or addition to it you get to pay microsoft again and again.

Sorry, guys I'm thinking this will be a bust.

I wouldn't want that much interference. Maybe the WOW crowd will like it, but I doubt it because flight simulation is not as simple as hacking on a troll for 10 minutes.

The guy tops it off at the end of the trailer with... all you need is a mouse. Right and that will take immersion to a new level. Where does MSFT find these people. They dug up Hatfield from Red Baron and he ruined the CFS3 and now they are going to mess up the old standard "Flight Simulator".

I'm beginning to think Bill Gates was the luckiest man in the world to snatch the DOS gambit from IBM. I'm suspicious that he is seriously overrated. Everything he has developed was bought from someone else and exploited with talented people he hired.

MSFT bought Foxpro and did nothing with it, except to buy out a superior competitor. Now MSFT is getting ready to quit Foxpro. So, what we will end up with is the C+,C# and visual basic.

A really good movie dealing with Flight...

http://www.youtube.com/MZjaVdJt59U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MZjaVdJt59U)

[speculum jockey]

Wow, not seeing much of an improvement over FSX visuals wise. It seems like FSX Ver. 1.5 more than anything else. Like nearmiss said, Microsoft sees dollar signs and they want to cash in with the least amount of effort and money wasted as possible.

They've seen firms like A2A and the like making big bucks off of aftermarket planes, textures, sounds, maps, graphical upgrades, etc... This way they are able to use basically the exact same engine to force those parties to go through them and cut a little bit out of their profit margins.

I wouldn't be surprised to see FSX actually outlive MS Flight since they're pretty much the same game, people are still making new graphical enhancements for it, and the library of aircraft is pretty huge. 3rd party devs might dip into the MF Flight Market, but I wouldn't be surprised if they stick to FSX since that's where they're making the "interference free" money. Another reason might be the less emphasis on "simulator" being fact, or just the community seeing it as such. Add all those together and MS flight might just be a gamble that doesn't pay off considering the fans probably won't want to pay for a new product that has considerable less content with little to no visual differences (once FSX has been modded).

[nearmiss]

I have not done the FSX for over 2 years now. It is boring just flying around, shooting approaches and flying navs. If you were training for an IFR rating or something it would make more sense.

I have to admit flying instruments is a challenge, and FSX at night is fun. Especially with some of the night effects. Daylight VFR is what they are pushing with the photo terrains. Still, that gets boring fast.

Flying the P51 is fun, but alot more fun in online combat. You get to fly combat... what the P51 was designed to do.

IMO, MSFT will sell some stuff, but no future that I can see unless they really get serious about IFR training. I don't see that happening from the comment the guy made about "the mouse is all you need" bit.

[mazex]

Wow, not seeing much of an improvement over FSX visuals wise. It seems like FSX Ver. 1.5 more than anything else. Like nearmiss said, Microsoft sees dollar signs and they want to cash in with the least amount of effort and money wasted as possible.
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Well, without breaking my NDA I can at least say that the difference is a lot larger than it looks on the screen shots. They have added many details that don't show on the screens, but the main difference is that they have spent many hours optimizing the engine so it runs a lot better. Too bad they did not use this engine update for FSXI as I agree with the others here that the new "game" approach does not fit me at least, but I guess I'm the wrong one to judge that as civilian simulators have never been my cup of tea...

They do have a nice surprise too in Flight that we have eagerly awaited to see first in CLoD ;)



Mazex

[addman]

Well, without breaking my NDA I can at least say that the difference is a lot larger than it looks on the screen shots. They have added many details that don't show on the screens, but the main difference is that they have spent many hours optimizing the engine so it runs a lot better. Too bad they did not use this engine update for FSXI as I agree with the others here that the new "game" approach does not fit me at least, but I guess I'm the wrong one to judge that as civilian simulators have never been my cup of tea...

They do have a nice surprise too in Flight that we have eagerly awaited to see first in CLoD ;)



Mazex

Is the surprise feature being able to enter and exit aircraft and walk around? ;)

[mazex]

Is the surprise feature being able to enter and exit aircraft and walk around? ;)

Maybe ;)

[DarkKiller]

Is the surprise feature being able to enter and exit aircraft and walk around? ;)

Isn't that already confirmed?