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RAF74_Taipan
01-01-2012, 05:52 AM
Cliffs of Dover is being set up as the foundation of a series of flight sim over many years.

Already included in the sim is provision for multi engine bombers 4+

That means a lot of switches and controllers to fly multi engine bombers.

Even the single engine fighters have a lot more switches that have to be controlled.

1c needs to add the Go Flight range of flight sim controllers as being useable as both keys and axes.

It will be the only way to control so many actions in each aircraft.


Currently im using the following.

Saitek EVO FFB joystick
CH Pro Throttle
CH Quadrant Throttle
CH rudder pedals.
Track IR4


Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Version 6.1.7601
Intel i7 2600K @3.4Ghz 4 cores RAM 16GB

All USB connected via powered hubs or direct to machine.

I decided to add some Go Flight components.

You can use some of the Go Flight modules like:

http://www.goflightinc.com/store/images/0522.jpg
http://www.goflightinc.com/store/gft82-8toggle-switchindicator-module-p-126.html (toggle switches)

these links will lead you to a page that says the page is down for maintenance. Its been that way for over a week. Admitedly xmas week.)

Not sure about:
http://www.goflightinc.com/store/images/354.jpg
http://www.goflightinc.com/store/rp48-tall-panel-module-p-78.html

And this nice one:
http://www.goflightinc.com/store/images/gflgtII_466x500.jpg
http://www.goflightinc.com/store/gflgtii-landing-gear-trim-control-module-p-123.html (Has 2 axis, use as Elevator Trim , Aileron Trim, gear lights will only work in FSX)

if above panels give a problem like not being detected ask gamepad/joystick buttons then you can always use their software to signal key strokes with the buttons: GF KEYS http://www.goflightinc.com/software.shtml

Computer recognised the components as unspecified USB devices. All 3 are there.

Cliffs of Dover doesnt recognise the Go Flight Components.

On The go Flight Web Site it says.

If the software developers have not provided key maps/APIs to enable for their various unique functions, there are three suggested resolutions we can offer:

Convince the aircraft vendor/developer to develop and publish their key maps (like Level-D, PMDG, Wilco, X-Plane currently do).

Learn and use FSUIPC or a key mapping program to enable your desired set of functions for a particular aircraft.

Have GoFlight Technologies perform custom development at some agreed upon cost paid for by the requester or a third party.

Id appreciate feedback by 1C whether they will provide this information, so Go Flight Modules can be used.

In the mean time i looked at using the Key Map as a work around .


On the Go flight web site it says.

If you're a fan of programs such as Falcon 4, IL-2, LOMAC, or any of the leading racing sims, you'll really appreciate GFKeys. In fact, ANY software that accepts commands from the keyboard can be controlled using GFKeys.


I used the Go flight Key Mapper.

It recognised all 3 components. I mapped a number of buttons on all three components.

I ensured that the GFKeys programme recognised the components which it did.
I setup and mapped the keys. I tested that the key mapped worked in game.

But it doesnt work in Cliffs of Dover.

Individually the mapper works and records the key strokes.

Using those same keys in Cliffs of Dover works - eg using the actual keyboard keys will work.

But using the Go flight components with the mapper wont control the game.

If anybody reckons they have this working id be interested to hear from them.

In the mean time I strongly urge 1C to incorporate these controllers into the game as standard peripheral devices.

335th_GRAthos
01-01-2012, 08:41 AM
I am not sure I understand correctly Taipan,

You say that your operating system recognises these controllers. Good!
Also the rudder, elevator and aileror trims are recognised by your system?
As joystics? With Axis?

Then CoD should be able to use them.

Another question: Does any other game you have on your PC recognise these controllers????

~S~

RAF74_Taipan
01-01-2012, 10:48 AM
Yes my other controllers are all recognised by COD.

They are CH Throttles, CH Quadrant, CH rudder Pedals, and Saitek Joystick.

COD doesnt recognise anything from the Go Flight range.

The computer recognises that the controllers are there. But my computer only recognises the CH and Saitek Joystick as game controllers.

The go flight modules are recognised as "unspecified" usb devices. Ive been able to find no specific drivers for them - as yet.

von Pilsner
01-01-2012, 10:59 AM
After mapping a keystroke in GFKeys try and re-map the keystroke in-game, but when the game asks you to press a button, press it on the controller (not your keyboard)... Maybe it will pick it up that way.

2nd guess - try elevating the GFKeys program to admin privilages.

Good Luck - awesome looking controllers. :D

RAF74_Taipan
01-01-2012, 11:27 AM
Does anybody know whether there is extra drivers for these devices. Ive looked for hours and cant find anything. (No disc either). Secondly the two progams i did download were

GFconfig Version Version 2.03 Build 1. Absolutely useless unless you want microsoft flight sim.

However this certainly recognises the 3 components.

The other program was GoFlight Key Mapper Version 1.5 Build 83.

Again this recognises the 3 components. Select a control and that controls light will blink. You can then easily "set keys" using the keyboard.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/taipan74/f71ef37b.jpg

Here is the GF RP48 .gfk file (mapping file").

[GFRP48_1]
K1+=LSFT+AUXHOME
K1+D=Gyro Compass
K1-=LSFT+AUXEND
K1-D=Gyro Compass
K2+=LSFT+AUXINS
K2+D=Course Setter
K2-=LSFT+AUXDEL
K2-D=Course Setter
K3+=LSFT+AUXUAROW
K3+D=Sight Distance
K3-=LSFT+AUXDAROW
K3-D=Sight Distance
K4+=LSFT+AUXLAROW
K4+D=Adjust Sight Left
K4-=LSFT+AUXRAROW
K4-D=Sight Adjust Right
S1+=TAB+LCTL
S1+D=Send Message
S1-=
S1-D=
S2+=LCTL+Q
S2+D=Flash Net Stats
S2-=
S2-D=
S3+=`
S3+D=Toggle Net Stats
S3-=
S3-D=
S4+=
S4+D=
S4-=
S4-D=
S5+=
S5+D=
S5-=
S5-D=
S6+=
S6+D=
S6-=
S6-D=
S7+=
S7+D=
S7-=
S7-D=
S8+=
S8+D=
S8-=
S8-D=

And the same in the options section in the cliffs of dover.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/taipan74/7372b147.jpg

And the actual from the ini file. Just the important section

[HotKey pilot]
Joystick3+Key1=trigger1
Joystick1+Key1=motorcomp_stop
Joystick+Key1=wheelbrakex
Joystick1+Key8=aileron_0
Joystick+Key15=uc_up
Joystick3+Key0=trigger0
Joystick1+Key0=enginei01
Joystick1+Key7=mag0_on
Shift R=ruddert_left
Shift G=site_dimmer
Shift E=elevatort_nup
Joystick1+Key6=elevator_0
Joystick+Key13=uc_down
Shift A=aileront_left
Alt R=ruddert_right
Joystick1+Key5=oilrad_minus
Joystick+Key5=MouseControl
Shift Insert=peilzeiger_p
Alt E=elevatort_ndown
Joystick1+Key4=oilrad_plus
Shift Down=site_dist_minus
Shift Right=site_side_right
Alt A=aileront_right
Shift Up=site_dist_plus
Joystick+Key11=thtl_wep
Shift Left=site_side_left
Shift Home=directionindi_p
Shift End=directionindi_m
Shift PageDown=altimeterknob_m
Shift PageUp=altimeterknob_p
Shift Delete=peilzeiger_m
Joystick+Key3=wheelbrakeltx
Joystick1+Key10=rudder_0
Joystick1+Key2=tankselector0
Joystick+Key2=wheelbrakertx
Joystick1+Key9=mag1_on

I have also sent an email to go flight, and posted on their forum which at this moment over the xmas period silent.

I did notice this.

for

K1+D=Gyro Compass

K1+=LSFT+AUXHOME
and
Shift Home=directionindi_p

KDN
01-01-2012, 11:50 AM
Taipan
The only devices from GoFlight that will be recognised as individual controllers in CoD are the following: GF-TQ6 (throttle quadrant), GF-TPM(throttle-Prop-Mix) and the GF-Rudder pedals (discontinued) maybe another with axes controls that I cannot remember.
However, all the rest need to be used through the keymapper utility and will function inside CoD
I have the same software versions and using:
GF-TQ6
GF RC
GF-TPM
GF-RP48 x 2
GF-T8
GF-LGT
GF-SECM
It would have been nice if the above where coded to be recognised as individual controllers but for the time being the keymapper does the job.

RAF74_Taipan
01-01-2012, 10:12 PM
So KDN you map it all up using the Key mapper and then what do you do?

Id even accept the key mapper until something better is done.

Am i missing something here?

KDN
01-02-2012, 11:07 AM
Once you mapped your controllers through the keymapper, make sure it runs in the background, open up your CoD and put the same keys on the Contols section. Best to use the GF cotrollers to activate the mapping on your CoD controls section.
The keymapper utility needs to be active in the background for any on your toggels and switch to put out a keyboard character.
I works ok but sometimes the utility stops working, especially when I switch interface (picking up anohter plane or alt tab, or windows key usage or even moving from the main interface to the FMB). On occasion it happens after long flights but I cannot reproduce the situation. It seems random.

When it the utility stops responding and you go and open it again it looks that all the keys are lost. This is not true. Shut the utility completely and restart it and you will see all your keys appearing again. However, do back up your keymapper files, just in case.

jf1981
01-02-2012, 11:32 AM
Hi

Any idea where to purchase those controllers ?

Thanks

Kodoss
01-02-2012, 11:53 AM
you could buy it here: http://www.fspilotshop.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=66

or you build your own one...:rolleyes:

KDN
01-02-2012, 01:40 PM
Main site here: http://www.goflightinc.com/

RAF74_Taipan
01-03-2012, 05:27 AM
Once you mapped your controllers through the keymapper, make sure it runs in the background, open up your CoD and put the same keys on the Contols section. Best to use the GF cotrollers to activate the mapping on your CoD controls section.
The keymapper utility needs to be active in the background for any on your toggels and switch to put out a keyboard character.
I works ok but sometimes the utility stops working, especially when I switch interface (picking up anohter plane or alt tab, or windows key usage or even moving from the main interface to the FMB). On occasion it happens after long flights but I cannot reproduce the situation. It seems random.

When it the utility stops responding and you go and open it again it looks that all the keys are lost. This is not true. Shut the utility completely and restart it and you will see all your keys appearing again. However, do back up your keymapper files, just in case.


Just confirming those issues. Got a message back from John Krieg at Go Flight.

"When using GF-Keys.When you want GF-Keys to be active you open GF-Keys then close to your taskbar.Then go to the GF-Keys icon on your taskbar left click and enable key mapping.Now GF-Keys is ready to go.To check you keystrokes you can open a .txt file and see what keystrokes are being thrown before you start your sim.If all the keystrokes are working then close the .txt file and start you sim.Note:you must enable GF-Keys every time you want to use it.Let me know if you have anymore questions."

Really appreciate your suggestions - off to try and work on it.

RAF74_Taipan
01-03-2012, 10:22 AM
Ok got it working.

Thanks to KDN for your help.

Start GoFlight Key Mapper. Go into options. "Enable key mapping".


The other thing that is important is to open up the GF Key mapper directory.

Usually this. C:\Program Files (x86)\GFKeys

Find the GFKeys.exe file

Right click on it. Click on security tab.

Make sure you have full control under your user and admin names. Apply. Reboot.

That seems to get it all working.

Now busy working through all those nice switches and dials

KDN
01-04-2012, 01:49 PM
Happy to hear it :)
I have different profiles for different types of planes since there is distinct difference on operation/existance of various cockpit functions among the planes that we currently fly
I have a matching profile inside CoD too.
It is kind of my preflight inspection, making sure all the right profiles are online :cool:
If you run into any issues please share.

Sabrefly
05-16-2012, 09:51 PM
Does anybody know whether there is extra drivers for these devices. Ive looked for hours and cant find anything. (No disc either). Secondly the two progams i did download were

GFconfig Version Version 2.03 Build 1. Absolutely useless unless you want microsoft flight sim.

However this certainly recognises the 3 components.

The other program was GoFlight Key Mapper Version 1.5 Build 83.

Hello Taipan,

Where did you get that GF Key Mapper Version 1.5 Build 83? The only one listed that I could find was 1.4.0.1.

Sabrefly

Argyle
03-17-2013, 09:38 AM
Bought the GF-LGT II the other day, to use with Cliffs of Dover. Connected it, lights shining bright and all, but problems soon arose. CoD don't recognize the module. I searched the almighty web and stumbled onto this thread. Changed the admin settings, downloaded and installed Go Flight Key Mapper 1.4.0.1 (cannot find Version 1.5 Build 83 anywhere) and reebooted my computer. Nothing. Go Flight Key Mapper 1.4.0.1 doesn't even recognize the GF-LGT module. Have done some testing, but nothing... So, any chance anyone can publish some sort of "Idiots guide to Key Mapping"-manual? Prettyplzwithsugarontop. When it comes to this kind of things, I'm nothing short of an retard. All help will be much appreciated. :)

Sabrefly
10-26-2013, 11:00 AM
For the life of me I can't figure out why GFMapper outputs are not recognized by the system, i.e. notepad or clod anymore. I think once I was able to run it on Win7 x64, but now it is just not recognized no matter how I set the security options, run as admin etc.

Sabrefly