why not to distribute some free copies of the game so there are more players online?

[raaaid]

im waiting and waiting for wonderwoman view servers and nothing

devs should consider some way of increasing online players like giving away copies like in contests

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in fact ill be totally honest even if i risk being banned

imo the victory of il2 over cfs was due at the online numbers and that was cause one protected the game while the other didnt protect it which translated in a 500% more online players for the smarter one

[ACE-OF-ACES]

im waiting and waiting for wonderwoman view servers and nothing

devs should consider some way of increasing online players like giving away copies like in contests

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in fact ill be totally honest even if i risk being banned

imo the victory of il2 over cfs was due at the online numbers and that was cause one protected the game while the other didnt protect it which translated in a 500% more online players for the smarter one
Because $ does not grow on trees.. Well at least not on this planet.. Yours may vary

[raaaid]

my point is that il2 won over cfs cause they didnt protect the game which translated in more online players

is like plants which let themsleves be eaten by their natural enemies in order to reach farther their seeds :)

oh cd games are like money actually worht very litle

[ACE-OF-ACES]

my assumption/opinion is that il2 won over cfs cause they didnt protect the game which translated in more online players

is like plants which let themsleves be eaten by their natural enemies in order to reach farther their seeds :)

oh cd games are like money actually worht very litle
Fixxed that for ya

[raaaid]

so how would you solve the problem of the so few online players?

wouldnt it be best giving copies away?

even if it was given away many people like me would buy it

[ACE-OF-ACES]

so how would you solve the problem of the so few online players?Your assumption/opinion is in error.. In that you equate IL2 to CFS where the only difference is that CFS protected the game.

Once you realize that error, you will than be able to look at all the other factors that 'could have' caused CFS demise. Off the top of my head, one of the biggest complaint about CFS was people could tweak the FMs with ease, which in turn caused a lot of cheating online. And that is just one example of how IL2 was not like CFS back in the day. Thank god tweaking the FM via mods in IL2 requires a lot more effort, otherwise IL2 would be suffering the same fate IMHO.

[Kongo-Otto]

Raaaid please look for help by an psychotherapist, its really not funny anymore!!!

[Gamekeeper]

my point is that il2 won over cfs cause they didn't protect the game which translated in more online players

CFS wasn't protected, aircraft could be added & modded at will, this was, in fact, its downfall, initially IL-2 was lauded for its FM & DM integrity, the fact these were protected was the reason for its success.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

CFS wasn't protected, aircraft could be added & modded at will, this was, in fact, its downfall,
I think he ment copy protected?

Or maybe he ment the color blue taste good?

Hard to tell with raaid! ;)

(ps I don't think CFS was copy protected either by the way)

initially IL-2 was lauded for its FM & DM integrity, the fact these were protected was the reason for its success.Agreed 100%

[raaaid]

yes but i fear for the future of this game with so few players online

imagine they gave to each game owner who paid for it the posibility to give it to someone free as a +mas present

online cannon fodder for the oldies :)

[ACE-OF-ACES]

yes but i fear for the future of this game with so few players online

imagine they gave to each game owner who paid for it the posibility to give it to someone free as a +mas present

online cannon fodder for the oldies :)If your waiting for a WONDER WOMAN CoD SERVER.. You will have to wait unitl the kid-o's get tired of BF3 and MW3.. Which with thier sound byte att span should only take a few weeks.. Than maybe one of those Quake servers will put up a CoD server with realism set to zero for ya

[raaaid]

well the thing wonderwoman view is more realistic than cockpit view

you know you have binocular vision, you can move the head to look behind the nose

would it be a cheat if i used stereosocpic softawer and set each virtual eye so wide as to be out of the plane?

humm would that be ethical?

[JG52Uther]

I think you need to get away from the idea of a 1000 people online playing like hyperlobby. What I have seen online in CoD is similar to RoF, where you have a couple of servers, and <100 people flying at any one time.
No idea why that would be, but it seems to be the way things are these days. On the other hand, I know a lot of people who are currently not flying, either because they are waiting for patches, or their computers are not up to it. Il2 '46 did not need a great computer to play, and running servers was also much easier to do.
People are always welcome to buy copies of CoD for other people, after all its pretty cheap now. RoF can afford to give the game away free, because they know they will get their money back (and more) through selling planes and 'field mods'.
How would the devs of CoD make any money if they gave it away?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

well the thing wonderwoman view is more realistic than cockpit view
Hardly

you know you have binocular vision, you can move the head to look behind the nose
binocular vision and moving your head are two different things.. and neither will allow you to look behind the nose of the plane.. small close (arms reach) objects like the P47 canopy brace down the center of the canopy will apear to be transparent due to binocual vision.. but large objects that are farther out will not apear to be transparent

would it be a cheat if i used stereosocpic softawer and set each virtual eye so wide as to be out of the plane?

humm would that be ethical?
I don't think you know what cheat means.. let alone how human vision works

[raaaid]

nono by moving your head totally right and totally left you can look at lot behind the nose, not under but you can ahead and slightly under

hell do you really think they took of blinded by the nose like the game?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

nono by moving your head totally right and totally left you can look at lot behind the nose, not under but you can ahead and slightly under
Alot yes.. but all you have done is shift your view by moving your head, by shifting your view the nose still blocks the same amout of your view, just a different part of your view. Which is not the case with WONDER WOMAN VIEW where the nose is gone and blocks NONE of your view. Which is why WONDER WOMAN VIEW is NOT more realistic

hell do you really think they took of blinded by the nose like the game?
Yes as I discribed above

[raaaid]

oh come on i bet you didnt see that 3d image

if you move your head to the right the nose move to the left

in fact if you make a composed image taken from left and right the nose is virtually invisible

i know cause of my dreams

also check out how the lateral windwo portrudes laterally the nose :)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p6Z10q5KE6c/TT5_bL9l61I/AAAAAAAAArY/QA2ANLSTWDk/s400/bf109g4017ov2.jpg

[ACE-OF-ACES]

oh come on i bet you didnt see that 3d image

if you move your head to the right the nose move to the left

in fact if you make a composed image taken from left and right the nose is virtually invisible

only in my dreams

also check out how the lateral windwo portrudes laterally the nose :)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p6Z10q5KE6c/TT5_bL9l61I/AAAAAAAAArY/QA2ANLSTWDk/s400/bf109g4017ov2.jpg
Fixxed that for ya

[Kongo-Otto]

http://gifsoup.com/view5/2320932/blackadder-headdesk-o.gif

[raaaid]

but you havent paid attention to the picture:

the front lateral windows is like 4 cm away from the nose laterally

what do you thin that window is for but to look behind the nose?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p6Z10q5KE6c/TT5_bL9l61I/AAAAAAAAArY/QA2ANLSTWDk/s400/bf109g4017ov2.jpg

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pay attention to the back lateral windown and notice how it aslo has the inward angle

what i said wonderwoman view :)

[ACE-OF-ACES]

but you havent paid attention to the picture:

the front lateral windows is like 4 cm away from the nose laterally

what do you thin that window is for but to look behind the nose?
As I allready stated..

Moving your head shifts your point-of-view (POV), by shifting your POV the nose still blocks the same amout of your view, just a different part of your view.

Which is not the case with WONDER WOMAN VIEW!

Where the nose is gone and blocks NONE of your view!

Which is why WONDER WOMAN VIEW is NOT more realistic!

SAVVY?

[raaaid]

imagine youre flying inside a cilinder but has a cannopy that allows you to put your eye 3 cm away laterally from the clinder and you can do that for each eye

for far away objects virtually you have full frontal view like ww

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you may want to check this btw

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Parallax.gif

[ACE-OF-ACES]

imagine youre flying inside a cilinder but has a cannopy that allows you to put your eye 3 cm away laterally from the clinder and you can do that for each eye

for far away objects virtually you have full frontal view like ww

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you may want to check this btw

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Parallax.gif
Is it safe to assume that you realized your mistake and now you agree with me?

Since your changing the subject from POV shift limited to the space of a cockpit to an unlimited POV shift.

[raaaid]

yes but the lateral front window portrudes some cm from the nose

[ACE-OF-ACES]

yes
Ah good, I am glad you can now 'see' (pun intended) why WONDER WOMAN VIEW is NOT more realistic

but the lateral front window portrudes some cm from the nose
Never said it didn't portrude

[raaaid]

yes thats the thing if you take a picture from the left protuberant windown and another form the right and unite them by photoshop voila wonderwoman :)

[ACE-OF-ACES]

yes thats the thing if you take a picture from the left protuberant windown and another form the right and unite them by photoshop voila wonderwoman :)
Is it safe to assume that you realized your mistake and now you agree with me?

Since your changing the subject form 'real time' to post 'processig time'..

Where in 'real time' you can not see both views at the 'same time'

[raaaid]

yes yes thats what i meant but hell moving your head its natural you dont even have to think about that

also blind take offs are a legend imposed by bad rendering games

[ACE-OF-ACES]

yes yes thats what i meant
Ah good, I am glad you can now 'see' (pun intended) why WONDER WOMAN VIEW is NOT more realistic

but hell moving your head its natural you dont even have to think about that

also blind take offs are a legend imposed by bad rendering games
Never said you had to think about moving your head

[raaaid]

oh dejaavu youre playing with my mind

you know i have a memory of long ago painting red and blue and checking for depth, but its like something that didnt really happened like a dream

is like when i got men in black 2 which was actually mib1 and didnt notice till very long later though i had watched not much time before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4jBnF8SnSE

[ACE-OF-ACES]

oh dejaavu youre playing with my mind

you know i have a memory of long ago painting red and blue and checking for depth, but its like something that didnt really happened like a dream

is like when i got men in black 2 which was actually mib1 and didnt notice till very long later though i had watched not much time before
Ah good, I am glad you can now 'see' (pun intended) why WONDER WOMAN VIEW is NOT more realistic

[nearmiss]

The principal attraction to IL2 was the fairest online play. The cheats were eliminated and the IL2 online game was carefully watched to keep it fair.

Up until IL2 the online servers for games were just wild, unbelievably crazy.

The MSFT Zone for CFS2 was so full of cheats it was kiddie land. The zone has been history for many years. It was an intolerable mess for air combat.

No one gave away anything, IL2 was excellent online game and people bought it.

[raaaid]

yeah i miss fair play

after logging in 1000 hour i got a world record at gtr evo that still keeps :)

tried with another games like f1 2010 and it was a bad joke :(

do you know any fair racing game where i could set another world record?

hell though i dont know if i should the last week previous to getting the record i went nearly insane

i watched on tv transhuman talking of becoming gods and giant tesla coils in las vegas

i got the record and it all got away

[JimmyBlonde]

Mate, I can't even see under the nose of a Piper Warrior IRL, imagine having a great honking big Merlin out front, you wouldn't see a damn thing past that if you had twelve sets of eyes.

Besides, WW view is for pussies.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

The principal attraction to IL2 was the fairest online play. The cheats were eliminated and the IL2 online game was carefully watched to keep it fair.

Up until IL2 the online servers for games were just wild, unbelievably crazy.

The MSFT Zone for CFS2 was so full of cheats it was kiddie land. The zone has been history for many years. It was an intolerable mess for air combat.

No one gave away anything, IL2 was excellent online game and people bought it.
Up until IL2 the only fair (no cheating) online flight sims were the pay-to-play flight sims like Air Warrior and Warbirds.. IL-2 was the first flight sim you could by for ~$40 and not have to pay a monthly fee to play it online, and not worry about cheaters. Prior to IL-2 I was a big time Warbirds fan and player.. I use to spend at least a couple of hundred bucks a month playing it.. Which was a lot cheaper than my early Air Warrior days! Back when Air Warrior was on the Genie network it use to cost $12/hr to play! I got a bill for over $1,000 one moth!! At which point I realized I had an addiction! ;)

[winny]

yes thats the thing if you take a picture from the left protuberant windown and another form the right and unite them by photoshop voila wonderwoman :)

Did 109's come with a PC and a copy of photoshop!?

Damn those Germans were ahead of their time..

[5./JG27 Lehmann]

I'd love to spend a day livng in raaaid's world...