Anyone else thinking of buying a monster rig after Xmas?

[Tavingon]

For me yes, I want to enjoy CLOD to the full with stunning graphics, and to set up massive aerial battles:)

[Scarecrow]

I'm not allowed till 2013 :(

[Foo'bar]

No need to buy a "monster" rig. For me a 900 EUR PC did it well. See sig.

[Flanker35M]

S!

No. If Luthier's statement of the new and better graphics engine, that should be more optimized, I should not need to. Those bugs and missing featues hamper us more than any rig's performance at the moment. Possibly would go CrossFire IF the dev team gets it to work proper.

[JG53Frankyboy]

i have already ordered a ASUS EAH6970 DCII to upgrade my PC. small personal birthday present from myself :D

i guess it will keep my PC alive for the next ~18month

[ATAG_Doc]

I need an upgrade.

[BigC208]

For me yes, I want to enjoy CLOD to the full with stunning graphics, and to set up massive aerial battles:)

Get a mini monster rig as Foobar sugests. I got almost the same config for about a $1000. When the game is optimized and SLI/CF are implemented it's time to built something scarry. I have a few custom missions with 24 Spitfires and Hurricanes taking on about 100 he111 and 24 109's over Southern England. Runs around 25-30fps most of the time at high settings so it's possible.

[speculum jockey]

If you can, try and wait until the Summer. The flooding in Thailand will keep component prices on certain things high until the flooding is over and the cleanup is well under way or finished.

[Qpassa]

dont buy HDD then

[SEE]

I may do but will wait and see how the next update performs on my current PC. I had been looking at the I7 2600K mobo bundles on offer as a possible new year upgrade but the longer I can wait the less I will have to pay (I hope).

[pupo162]

if the next patchs brings il2 to a far better standard ( AI works, DCG, performance, no building popping etc) ill go a for a new pc the day after, until then mine is able to run everithing else i play nicely, so not worth the investment.

[Insuber]

i5 is the way, i7 is a waste of money for games.

[Lant]

if the next patchs brings il2 to a far better standard ( AI works, DCG, performance, no building popping etc) ill go a for a new pc the day after, until then mine is able to run everithing else i play nicely, so not worth the investment.

How dare you to want another patch???? They are working as hard as they can!!!!! Is it Olegs fault you only have 8 GB of RAM?? 12GB should be minimum nowadays!!!!!!

[SEE]

i5 is the way, i7 is a waste of money for games.

That's interesting! I definiely need to ask for advice before I part with my cash as I;m sure I saw i5 bundles for less. Out of curiosity, (start my education now....:grin:) what are the advantages/disadvantages between i7 and i5 Insuber?

[nearmiss]

IMO, anyone planning to upgrade their system should not base it on improvement of COD performance.

If you want to upgrade for other reasons, go for it.

[icarus]

IMO, anyone planning to upgrade their system should not base it on improvement of COD performance.

If you want to upgrade for other reasons, go for it.

+1

Also, in March the new Ivy Bridge CPUs are coming and the Sandy Bridge prices will drop accordingly.

[Insuber]

That's interesting! I definiely need to ask for advice before I part with my cash as I;m sure I saw i5 bundles for less. Out of curiosity, (start my education now....:grin:) what are the advantages/disadvantages between i7 and i5 Insuber?

The 3 differences are:

- 0.1 GHz more of the fastest i7 on the fastest i5 (3.4 GHz vs 3.3 GHz), not a big deal given the overclock capabilities of the SandyBridge
- Hyperthreading, which simulates 8 cores. Slightly better for video encoding, compiling, graphics creation etc, useless for games
- 8 MB cache vs. 6 MB

So, if your main use is games and sims, my advice is to go for an i5 and spend the extra cash for a bigger video card with more VRAM, the real bottle neck of this game.
if you do other stuff, have a look at benchmarks and decide by yourself. Anandtech has a very clear CPU benchmark section.

Cheers,
Insuber

[Helrza]

already got me new motherboard mounted in my new case... Asus rampage III black edition in a coolermaster HAF X, hopefully in the coming weeks will throw in a corsair gold 1200w psu, I7 990x cpu, H70 liquid cooling, 12gb of corsair dominator GT ram and either a rog gtx580 matrix or a gtx590... Should b a beast :D

admitidly, it is for clod, i want to be able to run it off its nut, and also for track recording.... But its also to cover for gaming for the next few years :)

[robtek]

You guys do realize that a monster psu is a waste of money and energy???
a psu works most effektive at 85 to 90% load.

[pupo162]

You guys do realize that a monster psu is a waste of money and energy???
a psu works most effektive at 85 to 90% load.

last time i bought a bad pcu, it blew up ( literelly on fire ), so im going for monster uber expensive ones from now on

[mattebubben]

They claimed that this next patch would improve the preformance with atleast 50%.
Cant know how true that is but even 20-30% inproved fps would make it so much more playable.

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

i5 is the way, i7 is a waste of money for games.

but usefull if you do other stuff:)

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

last time i bought a bad pcu, it blew up ( literelly on fire ), so im going for monster uber expensive ones from now on

quality plus quantity

[Kongo-Otto]

For me yes, I want to enjoy CLOD to the full with stunning graphics, and to set up massive aerial battles:)

No have bought me a new rig in summer, for Xmas there are Erbacher race Cat SL skis under the tree this time.

[flyingblind]

Nope. Upgraded when CloD first came out. I had an absolute limit of £500 and got the bits in my sig. I kept existing case, HDDs, PSU and old 1680 x 1050 LG monitor etc. Total price £480 and I have been very pleased with the results for the money. I should probably have got a card with more Vram but CloD is perfectly playable with everything at maximum or a bit smoother under heavy load situations if I drop the landscape settings a bit.
I will probably get some more ram fairly soon and maybe a second card next year although 560ti's are not the best choice for Sli or so I have read.

[Insuber]

but usefull if you do other stuff:)

everyone can decide the best use of his money:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287

:)

cheers,
Insuber

[NedLynch]

To answer the OP's question in one word, no.

[Steuben]

i have already ordered a ASUS EAH6970 DCII to upgrade my PC. small personal birthday present from myself :D

i guess it will keep my PC alive for the next ~18month

That could have been a mistake!

New AMD GPU in 28nm might come soon!

[speculum jockey]

but usefull if you do other stuff:)

That other stuff typically revolves around Hyperthreading. So unless you're using a lot of $1000+ apps or database software, don't bother, because all an i7 will do is save you .5 seconds the next time you click "ok" to start a job that will take you more than a minute.

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

going on those benchies,if i was tight for money then the i5 is the obvious choice,but im still happy with the i7.:grin:

[DoolittleRaider]

What are opinions of best Soundcard and speaker combination?...I'm not a music aficionado. I want best sound for gaming...COD, ROF, COD(the other one)MW3, Battlefield3

Any advice will be appreciated.

[hiro]

I'm going to wait . . . with this game improving, and current stuff only getting cheaper its better. Also the talk of the sequel seems to lend itself to waiting . . .



You guys do realize that a monster psu is a waste of
money and energy???
a psu works most effektive at 85 to 90% load.

one would be surprised how many "hardware" issues are related to a PSU that is under powered.

Especially if you've got world class audio / video cards and lots of USB toys

[hc_wolf]

Monster rig... I think mine is just fine. I get an avg of 95 PS peak of 160 and min 75

[pupo162]

Monster rig... I think mine is just fine. I get an avg of 95 PS peak of 160 and min 75

you have a monster rig.

[Rattlehead]

No.

I'm content with things as they are.
Maybe when the 7xxx AMD cards come out, I'll be tempted to upgrade the GPU. We'll see.

[tintifaxl]

No new rig for me, albeit maybe a GTX580 as upgrade.

[speculum jockey]

What are opinions of best Soundcard and speaker combination?...I'm not a music aficionado. I want best sound for gaming...COD, ROF, COD(the other one)MW3, Battlefield3

Any advice will be appreciated.

On-board sound is perfectly fine. The only people that would notice a difference are "music aficionados" with very expensive speakers or headphones. Unless your motherboard is from 1997 you don't have to worry about crappy sound. As for speakers, you need to first determine what you want to pay, then go to a big-box store where they have a lot of models being demoed and give them a listen.

[MegOhm]

Having a system that can run todays Sims like ...ROF, A10C and CLOD is one thing...

Having the CLOD developers correct the problems so it will run/perform smoothly without bugs is another....

If they improve CLOD performance with the new graphics and sound ...that will be great...

but CLOD has some inherent performance problems where resolution of those problems may be a long time out....

At this point.....do not expect a that new or high end system will solve your CLOD problems...it will not.

Myself? I just like new toys and I will upgrade and buy new stuff...just cuz it puts the wind beneath my wings

[FS~Phat]

I was thinking of going for a new SB-E CPU and MB but after the disappointment of all the reviews Ill be saving my money for the next Gen Nvidia GPUs. TBH if they fix SLI support I wont need gear for another 2 years anyway... Rig in Sig. Latest additions here> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=25288&page=11

https://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1p3vtQS7Il2VYzcYZ_OqhHO-EU2rUGb1XJKi6MhNlPPkGsLrATBW428-axiZR7u1CEoQZvEW0tyyk/IMG_2742.JPG

[mcler002]

Hey on ebay i am selling my motherboard, processor and memory

Have a look! Item number: 280780002082

Im hoping to upgrade to the new rampage IV, 2011 processors and new quad channel memory

Cheers

[ruxtmp]

I am planning on getting an i7 3660k, nvidea 580 3mb, 8gb ram, solid state hard drive, on windows 7 64bit. The current pc I use was built in 2004 so it does not run any new games. I think I got my return on my investment with 7 years of pretty hard use.

Hopefully this rig should be able to run whatever modded version of il2 is out. Unfortunately I will probably hold off on COD until the merged version comes out with Moscow battle. To many issues and unknowns for me to deal with the frustration. I know that this rig may be at the low end by then but DCS A-10 Il2 modded, and ArmA3 are really looking like they will occupy my time until then.

[Bryan21cag]

my 2 cents :)

I am a HUGE fan of spending way too much money on computers so my first instinct is to say go for it dude and don't pinch a penny if you can help it lol.

Now that said, it really should not be necessary to get a huge system if your goal is to just be able to run a game well. most games can be run very well while still staying within the 500-800 range, and im sure that there are MANY out there that say they can do it for 50 bucks and such but not being one of those magical people my self I tend to find that a well built 500-800 dollar rig hangs in there with the best of them on most all new titles and does it very well.

NOW.... THAT said....lol i was one of the fortunate ones to have a job and was able to spend a more than normally reasonable amount of money on my new rig and I bought it for a few reasons but the top most one of them was to be ready to run CLOD when it hit the market and my hope was to run it with all the bells and whistles turned up ( or as close to it as i could get ).

If you know the history of the release then I do not need to tell you this did not happen. :) but Since every new and old game runs on this same system with crippling speed and agility I really do not have anything to complain about. In fact I go as far as to thank very much the hype of this game for forcing my hand in making me upgrade so big and much quicker then I would have done on my own :)

My specs are posted below and this system does ...... well ...... run CLOD. but I still get stutters and it does not really give me as good as a performance as I would like to have seen. This is likely still largely due to the fact that Cross Fire / SLI have not really been well optimized in CLOD's code along with all the other issues that there still working on. People with less hardware then myself are reporting much better performance then myself but my guess would be they are using Single large video cards and might have done some tweaking of a lot of there settings to get this result.

If you are one of the people capable of doing this tweeking then I hear it is possible to get better performance then the stock build but I do not do much adjusting unless its very simple and I know for sure I wont break any thing so my experience has been as described.

Finally I say happy buying :) :grin: <--------------this has been me every day since i bought this beautiful machine and I am sure you will be too no matter what you get. Every time I play DCS, crysis, IL2 46, ROF, Might and Magic VI, DOWII, WOW, Star Wars TOR (beta Tester), Iracing, and every other game with every graphics option turned to EXTREME!!! I am all teeth listining to those cooling fans run up and start humming as they cool those twin beauties to a consistent 61-65C MUahahahahahahahahahahah....... oh sorry lol i get excited :)

congrats ahead of time dude :)

full specs
CASE: Cooler Master Elite 430

CPU: AMD Phenom™II X4 970 Black Edition Quad-Core

CASE Cooling: 1x140mm 5x120mm

CPU Cooling: CoolerMaster V8 CPU Cooler

HDD1: 30 GB Kingston 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC SSD (way to small in hindsight)

HDD2: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (1TB x 2 (2 TB
Capacity) Raid 0

MEMORY: Corsair 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel

MOTHERBOARD: Asus M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AMD 890FX Chipset

Cross Fire Single Monitor (currently 42in Viewable FP 1920x1080 HD TV)

OS: Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)

POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - XtremeGear Gaming PS

VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe

VIDEO2: AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe

[hc_wolf]

RUXTMP my current rig plays every game on ULTRA and il2 is smooth as sil with avg fps of 75fps on full everything. I do the same. Build a rig that lasts for a few years. Anf this rig will last for a few years also.

Go GET'EM TIGER!

[Insuber]

I am planning on getting an i7 3660k, nvidea 580 3mb, 8gb ram, solid state hard drive, on windows 7 64bit. The current pc I use was built in 2004 so it does not run any new games. I think I got my return on my investment with 7 years of pretty hard use.

Hopefully this rig should be able to run whatever modded version of il2 is out. Unfortunately I will probably hold off on COD until the merged version comes out with Moscow battle. To many issues and unknowns for me to deal with the frustration. I know that this rig may be at the low end by then but DCS A-10 Il2 modded, and ArmA3 are really looking like they will occupy my time until then.

I have the PC that you plan to build, apart from the i5 instead of the i7, and CoD runs great, quite smooth with max settings.

Cheers,
Insuber

[grunge]

I will switch to i5 s1155 Sandy with 8GB ddr3 RAM. Hope that the situation will be a bit better.

[roadczar]

Refreshing my current monster with LGA2011 and more intense liquid cooling in a CaseLabs case.

Two pumps.
Two 480s on top in a push pull configuration
Here are couple of Google Sketchup pictures f what it may look like.


http://roadczar.com/gallery/var/resizes/Uploads/TH10-Build/th10_frontleft.jpg?m=1323322417

http://roadczar.com/gallery/var/resizes/Uploads/TH10-Build/th10_front%20right.jpg?m=1323322417

[Tavingon]

IM DOING IT! Going to get a brand new pc today :D:D:D

[Rince]

GZ Tav! Put it please in your sig and have fun with your new "baby"! ;-)

[Tavingon]

Ah. I Chickened out at the shop.. it was too expensive! Going to shop around and get a good deal online if i can :)

[Tavingon]

last time i bought a bad pcu, it blew up ( literelly on fire ), so im going for monster uber expensive ones from now on

+1.. I am looking for a good rig for around £600, any tips?