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raaaid
11-11-2011, 03:45 PM
check out the wizard in the top left, anything unusual?

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/raaaid/marvel_graphic_novel_11_p00fcbc.jpg

well its painted on red and blue, the red i see it where the screen is but the blue i see it like two cm BEHIND, do you see that?

could the person who draw this be clour blind only able to percieve shapes and use special depth paint to do it

could blind colour aliens rule secretly the erath?

bongodriver
11-11-2011, 03:55 PM
Well ther you go folks....you voted for this...

major_setback
11-11-2011, 09:10 PM
Again, chromatic aberration.

MD_Titus
11-12-2011, 01:35 AM
no, no, doesn't exist and no.

raaaid
11-12-2011, 01:42 AM
well i bet you know im honest in my saying i see it :)

the question is weather its a persistent hallucination-illusion or its real

AndyJWest
11-12-2011, 04:38 AM
the question is weather its a persistent hallucination-illusion or its real

Actually, no. We only see 'reality' through our nervous system (eyes - and brain to analyse what the eyes see), and there are many ways that we can misinterpret what we see. Most of the time, most of us don't notice, because we expect reality to 'make sense'. If you stop believing 'reality is real', you'll notice these things more, but that is only because you are becoming more aware of another aspect of 'reality' - that you can't actually observe it except through imperfect senses. And yes, I can see what you mean about the wizard - but I know my eyes have a different focal length for the red and blue ends of the spectrum. Actually, all of us do. Then again, a friend of mine is brown-green colour-blind, and seems to see the world entirely differently. For some time he went out with an Asian girl that he knew couldn't be green, but he had no way to be sure for himself...

raaaid
11-12-2011, 06:12 AM
wow thanks for the support andy i was not expecting anybody to see that colour depth issue since i seem to be the only one to see tv and youtube stereovision

the chromatic aberration would explain to see blue in focuse and red unfocused but not the dpeth thing

so the angelic colour blind conspiracy for me is still strong specially taking into account the stereovision of all tvs

btw i got to see with my peripheral view as with central and lost it

got to see auras and most lost it

and now my stereovision is going away slowly

seems my foes are one step ahead of me :(

Wolf_Rider
11-12-2011, 09:15 AM
check out the wizard in the top left, anything unusual?

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/raaaid/marvel_graphic_novel_11_p00fcbc.jpg

well its painted on red and blue, the red i see it where the screen is but the blue i see it like two cm BEHIND, do you see that?

could the person who draw this be clour blind only able to percieve shapes and use special depth paint to do it

could blind colour aliens rule secretly the erath?

you'll see the red isn't red but red shifted more towards orange


its "complimentary contrasts", where contrasting colours which would normally offend the eye by working against each other (such as red and green/ or orange and blue, etc) have been shaded to actually work with each other, in the way that complimentary colours do (blue/ green, for instance)

effecting a complimenatry contrast is an artform, a skill not easily aquired

raaaid
11-13-2011, 10:15 PM
i have the feeling im giving proof here of a wild crazy thing, people see it with their own eyes but deny thew facts clinging cheating themselves into a normal world of reality denial

cromatic aberration would only explain one colour in focus while the other not

contrast colours are pleasent at the eye of the beholder but that is pleasent or not deont mean they have depth

in fact can anybody give proof of the knoledge of this by the world that two colours appear to have different depths?

no i bet you cant ive studied quite much optic illusions and never heard of this before

and the fact that you see depth in these two colours as i see it supporst my affirmation that all tv is such a perfect sterovision that you dont notice as in reality

gentlemen telpathic anlienls rule and stage the wolrd

the world is actually perfect the only reason for the staged horror is that sick taste of some for horror MOVIES

Wolf_Rider
11-14-2011, 09:00 AM
ahem...


http://arts.unomaha.edu/art/ART1100/complement.htm

raaaid
11-14-2011, 11:08 AM
well that link deals with afterimages but doesnt say that contrasting colours give an illusion of depth as you can see in my link

so my point which seems you can verify remains secret knowledge :)

brando
11-14-2011, 11:39 AM
well that link deals with afterimages but doesnt say that contrasting colours give an illusion of depth as you can see in my link

so my point which seems you can verify remains secret knowledge :)

It's just skilful artistry and a good understanding of colour, not mysticism.

http://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/ma/web-large/ma63.73.jpg Blue Green Red by Ellsworth Kelly 1963

raaaid
11-14-2011, 07:11 PM
i was not expecting people to see depth in there as i do, im very surprised, i was expecting not to be believed

well maybe im wrong in the conspiracy thing but seems this is new and theres no literature on it

but havent you ever heard that angles dont see colour, maybe not even black and white, just 3d shapes

edit:

this is strange:

i see those blue and orange colours stereovision, you see the colours stereovision

i see youtube stereovision you DONT see youtube streovision

"i wonder if hell ever know he is in the best selling shoooouw"

raaaid
11-17-2011, 04:33 PM
so rry to bump but new findings:

check the effect here its wild and also with blue and orange:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/raaaid/Infinity-Wars1-02.jpg

seems blue and orage are opposite in depth, blue deepest, orange shallowest

see how its not optica phenomena but really special depth paint to be used by colour blinded alienls

compare with these paints with normal pigments and payy attention how the blue orange contrast doesnt have depth at all in my normal view paintings:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/raaaid/30-11-09_124507.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/raaaid/24-03-09_170859.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/raaaid/28-12-08_143943.jpg

raaaid
11-18-2011, 11:47 AM
sorry to bump again but seems i discover independenly an optic effect which its been known for only 100 years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromostereopsis

http://www.3dwonderstuff.com/Images/optical_illusions/stereogram_oi_chromo_l.jpg

though there are still many question that ill keep to my eye opener thread

hell ive been thinking all night in dreams about this

edit:

look at that image both singled eyed and with two eys to be puzled even more

edit:

for example wwhy i cant reproduce the effect?

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/raaaid/nonstereopsis.jpg

bongodriver
11-18-2011, 05:12 PM
for example wwhy i cant reproduce the effect?

how is the 4 randomly drawn semi paralell lines in any way close to a recreation?

raaaid there is nothing magical or mysterious about your research here, these are very well established effects that exploit the flaws of the human eye...yes thats right 'everyone' sees exactly the same way you do, but the rest of us don't sit in wonder for hours of the day contemplating it, get over it it's just normal vision.

raaaid
11-18-2011, 05:28 PM
1st the effect should be best render with violet and red since the cromation aberration is the cause of the steopsis and in this two colours the cormatic abberration is maximum

1st mistake of the stagers

second mistake:

to render that effect you just need red blue on black

if i didnt render it by painting that its because thats a deception

only known but 100 years:rolleyes:

so the blind colours aliens arrived here in 1911

thanks for the info keep it up ;)

bongodriver
11-18-2011, 05:35 PM
more like someonle only bothered to research it 100 years ago...

raaaid
11-18-2011, 05:41 PM
oh come on i saw it so easily that i doubt people just noticed and put it a name

hell i want some paints that do that where can i get them

is it that man its evolving so fast people is just able to notice just now and some devolved dont even notice?

my dentist told me that the lack of wise teeth is very recent

so its in my dreams:

i dont know how my dream where im a light dogfighting 100 armour of lights around the central blackhole of the universe ends

but my persistents dream of falling backwards first as a child suggest somehwere somewhen im falling eternally slowly spagetized

i think most life eternally

i life just a century in infinte lines

but well good luck with the transhuman future luckily i wont be ther i heard they just found out how to make meat steaks out of human excrements ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMqsWc8muj8&feature=relmfu

ACE-OF-ACES
11-18-2011, 06:09 PM
but havent you ever heard that angles dont see colour, maybe not even black and white, just 3d shapes
Myth! I assure you I can see colours, all of em

raaaid
11-18-2011, 06:12 PM
i wouldnt be surprised you were one they live so long they dont rememebr their inner child

psicologically im like seven :)

ACE-OF-ACES
11-18-2011, 06:15 PM
psicologically im like seven :)
Don't be modest.. psicologically your an easy eight! hows that for inner child! ;)

raaaid
11-18-2011, 07:27 PM
you see this proves that shakespeare was right and the world is stage

what i wonder if there are more real people like me

if the wrold was normal that picture would be all over the net

but well most if not all know the sky is bllue

is it ? i heard tales of a sky dome

i bet the real sky is pink and purple like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJppnG1tflU&ob=av2n

raaaid
11-18-2011, 07:49 PM
all right lets make a spell for an alien hunt

lets compare human art with alien art youll have to agree with me:

ALIEN

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0hSMRShvxYQ/TTWsYTuZ-BI/AAAAAAAAAEE/_ryxPVaqL9E/s1600/blue_orange.jpg

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmN8o3X40mzj71Gp_d8zB6DfxytP04A Gfl-89sqzpmp_cxcionEA

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nZF-xXime8o/TKR9A4TfDXI/AAAAAAAAAF8/3kwTWfinsGY/s1600/prcolorwheel.JPG

http://eportfolio.pdht.ca/w11_eportfolio/zeliger_isabella/img/hires/isabella-zeliger-rgb-colour-wheel-illustrator-hires.jpg







http://www.suzannecooper.com/classroom/images/colorwheel.jpg

HUMAN

http://www.teachnet-uk.org.uk/2006%20Projects/Art-Fireworks/Fireworks/Images/Colours/PNG/ColourwheelTrans.png

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSqRV23wiOa0-SsG716CBujqTyQYh5Kv_K_oIwBDRlV9XsRY23FYsFPaBVorQ

http://www.tk-therapies.com/webstore/colour-wheel.jpg

:FI:Sneaky
11-18-2011, 08:20 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/Don_X/amazing3d.jpg

raaaid
11-18-2011, 08:23 PM
thats the 2012 effect probably guys

we shouldnt be seeing that probably

oh we are begining to see like them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lwlx3GnLGs

edit:

this one is a joke:

http://studiolab.io.tudelft.nl/static/images/onnoscolourshow/plaatje7.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkyiqVnyCp4

edit:

this one is pretty cool:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/116059175_451c1370fe.jpg

oh it wouyld be so cool if i could make my comics appear double and see themas steregrams:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Autostereogram_Showing_Effects_of_Chromostereopsis _from_Gene_Levine.gif

Hood
11-18-2011, 11:50 PM
sorry to bump again but seems i discover independenly an optic effect which its been known for only 100 years:



Clever of you to discover something independently which has been known for 100 years. I discovered the wheel the other day.

Pure muppetry.

raaaid
11-19-2011, 12:43 PM
im an amateur artist, here some of my art:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=23474

hell i would give ten years of my life for a set of stereocopic paints like these:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/raaaid/Infinity-Wars1-02.jpg

major_setback
11-24-2011, 11:43 PM
i
cromatic aberration would only explain one colour in focus while the other not



I have problems with red/blue chromatic aberration. I see them as if they are at different distances from me, with real depth perception when there is none in the picture I'm looking at.

I think this is the reason for what you see.

raaaid
11-25-2011, 08:49 PM
im surprised others see what i see as well

maybe with a bit of luch anyone sees this is stereovision as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTvgnYGu9bg&list=FLYQFAGpkzeOzPbniEw3BIRg&index=8&feature=plpp_video

CharveL
11-25-2011, 10:13 PM
That image is offensive to heterosexuality.

major_setback
11-25-2011, 10:52 PM
I used to own a record with very bright red and blue cover (for an old vinyl record). My friends didn't understand when I said it was driving me crazy looking at it and seeing it at different depths. I couldn't look at it.
I fell in love with photography looking at colour slides and seeing them as if 3D.
I don't experience it much now at all though.

raaaid
11-26-2011, 04:08 PM
not really

the only thing i can relate my seeing youtube in stereovision is my eye exercises to heal shortsightedness that i started one year ago

this started my stereovision of youtube and seeing auras

curiously the smaller the window the better i see 3d