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Herbs107
10-19-2011, 10:45 PM
http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/10502713/australian-spitfire-unearthed-in-france/

ATAG_Dutch
10-19-2011, 11:00 PM
Thanks Herbs. Very sad.:(

Trooper117
10-19-2011, 11:42 PM
At least now he can rest in peace..

BadAim
10-19-2011, 11:59 PM
I wonder if he'll be allowed one final flight.....back to his homeland. I think that would be fitting.

Codex
10-20-2011, 12:05 AM
Something doesn't sit right with that article. That wreckage looks very similar to what the RAAF photo archive has.

http://images.defence.gov.au/fotoweb/Preview.fwx?&position=36&archiveType=ImageFolder&archiveId=5003&albumId=5003&sorting=ModifiedTimeAsc&search=spitfire&fileId=8590496097A739A27841C7E8A1C14EE88E6EC020FDC EF86377CC8A13DB84B7E8FDFA39A7FA961C9342E8044A3C5F3 98F65B6DCFB4C4D8CA5583BB4AF083D55035B2861CA17E8FAD 513AA7608BB0F15699C9CD2B2EBD16DF3F92BE1DDB738C846B 2FF4CADDC5581806F8F2B2A62A7C78539A7FCA3DB183C27F57 B8C9E31EB2C37847E8BBBC64902636BC9DB2687AC3B5F7A3E4 3E9519E3602C4157C6D70EBDA62B6F3627064A160E4C8A7873 813AA0B5DFD5CD47D53BA344134ED07A0267A829D0A7750F6F 6687A8349DC197FC7F090D3

http://images.defence.gov.au/fotoweb/Grid.fwx?position=1&archiveid=5003&columns=4&rows=2&sorting=ModifiedTimeAsc&search=11120958

ATAG_Dutch
10-20-2011, 12:34 AM
Something doesn't sit right with that article. That wreckage looks very similar to what the RAAF photo archive has.

And? What? Editors say 'Photograph!!' and someone finds one that might pass muster.

The man was a countryman of yours ffs.

Codex
10-20-2011, 01:22 AM
And? What? Editors say 'Photograph!!' and someone finds one that might pass muster.

The man was a countryman of yours ffs.

Yes he is a fellow countryman and that's why I'm suspect of the author. Besides the 7 news network is not exactly the most trustworthy of news sources, they've been caught out many times reporting incorrect information.

You obviously didn't read the name of the pilot listed at the RAAF website. How would it be if a state funeral was held and the wrong pilot was listed on the tomb stone. That would go down real nice with the Family wouldn't it now.

"Flight Lieutenant Henry ‘Lacy’ Smith from Sydney, NSW was flying the Spitfire when it was shot down by anti-aircraft fire on 11 June 1944. The Spitfire MJ789 crashed into the River Orne, near Caen, in northern France. The aircraft was not found until November 2010. Flight Lieutenant Smith was buried with full military honours at the Commonwealth War Graves Cemetery, Ranville, Normandy, France in April this year. His aircraft was bought to Australia in September 2011."

http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com/raf1944/3/smithhenry.html

I never just accept things on face value, no matter how emotional the subject may be, the file photo in that article is extremely similar to the RAAF's archive, if it's the same they should have "File Photo" printed somewhere on it to indicate it's not an actual photo of the wreak, believe it or not this is a legal requirement under Australia law.

P.S. Don't you know not to believe everything you see or read on the net ;)

drewpee
10-20-2011, 11:06 AM
I think it shows great human spirit that their are those out there searching for our war dead. Think what it would be like loosing some so long ago,then out of the blue their last resting place is found. Imagine how close you would feel to a lost one to actual have their dog-tags in your hands.

raaaid
10-20-2011, 12:02 PM
thats like shumacher tapping with his hand his broken f1 like if it was a pet

are things endowed with some kind of spirit?

http://gallery.xcski.com/d/25361-4/DSCN1868.jpg

bongodriver
10-20-2011, 12:20 PM
thats like shumacher tapping with his hand his broken f1 like if it was a pet

are things endowed with some kind of spirit?

http://gallery.xcski.com/d/25361-4/DSCN1868.jpg

Yes, because it is human nature to bestow these feelings upon things.....I bet somwhere theres someone who even loves you!

swiss
10-20-2011, 01:32 PM
I think it shows great human spirit that their are those out there searching for our war dead. Think what it would be like loosing some so long ago,then out of the blue their last resting place is found.

It's actually the treasure hunters who find those airplanes, and they are not primary after the human remains - furthermore you'll never know if you'll find any remains at all - or if the pilot even was still onboard(you can bail and get blown to bits by a shell on the ground f.i.).

Imagine how close you would feel to a lost one to actual have their dog-tags in your hands.

Close? Like having the pocketwatch of grandpa?
There's one lil' difference 'tho - imagine what these dogtags went through at the impact.
Tomato, Microwave?
Not something i would want to have.

drewpee
10-21-2011, 04:40 PM
It's actually the treasure hunters who find those airplanes, and they are not primary after the human remains - furthermore you'll never know if you'll find any remains at all - or if the pilot even was still onboard(you can bail and get blown to bits by a shell on the ground f.i.).



Close? Like having the pocketwatch of grandpa?
There's one lil' difference 'tho - imagine what these dogtags went through at the impact.
Tomato, Microwave?
Not something i would want to have.

It's not just AC and pilots I was talking about. Groups are looking for our war dead in many known combat arenas. WW1, WW2, and the Korean War just to name a few. They are still finding grave like the mass graves near Fromelles in France. Hundreds of British and Commonwealth military war dead have been found there. They are doing DNA sampling in the hope of finding out who these men are. Now that's got to cost a hole lot of money. Only treasure there is,is one of people finding out where their love one's are and perhaps finally laying them to rest in a respectful way.

swiss
10-21-2011, 04:56 PM
Ah, those "private" groups.
Actually I thought once they find a prospecting site theycan inform government agencies(which are in hibernation unless called) and they'll take over from there on, including recovery and the DNA stuff.
:confused:

Which group found that spit?

drewpee
10-22-2011, 03:44 AM
Sorry swiss you are of cause right as usual. There is no such thing as human compassion.

swiss
10-22-2011, 02:43 PM
Sorry swiss you are of cause right as usual. There is no such thing as human compassion.

Huh? It was actually a question.
I remember seeing a documentary about a guy who was searching for his grandfather whose P38 was shoot down over Germany and crashed into a field.
Irrc as soon as they had located the wreckage, they informed some Army Agency which organized (and paid for) the digging.