You say half empty I say half full

[ACE-OF-ACES]

For every post that says the prop pitch is fixed, there is a post that says it is still broken..

For every post that says the cockpit reflections are back, there is a post that says they are still missing..

For every post that says stutters are gone, there is a post that says stutters are still there..

For every post that says FPS have increased, there is a post that says FPS have decreased..

etc..
etc..
etc..

So what can we conclude from all this?

That PCs come in as many different flavors as people's opinions!

That and there is a good chance that we have exceeded the 'general' populations ability to 'configure' their PC for gaming.

What with all the hardware and software options at their disposable it is no wonder some people 'feel' they are getting better or worse FPS due to INSERT YOUR EXCUSE/REASON HERE.

Which in and of itself would not be a 'bad' thing!

But combine that with most peoples lack of patients and sound byte attention span and it is no wonder why the 'GAME BOXES' have done so well over the past five years.

I know the few PC software game makers left have to wonder why they still bother with PCs.

And looking at some of the posts in this forum I would not blame them for canning the whole PC gaming market and focusing on the GAME BOX market.

It would be a sad day, but I fear it is only a mater of time.

I say sad because one of the ways I justify buying a new PC every year and a half is that I need to keep current with PC hardware and software for what I do at work.. but that little voice inside my head knows the real reason I do it! ;)

[LoBiSoMeM]

My PC is a "cheap" one, with a now "outdated" AMD CPU, cheap mobo and memo, and a middle end VGA. And I can run Cliffs of Dover like this:

2WuHh9qbyX8

I can use my hardware and configure my software, do cheap upgrades to achieve the performance needed, and i'm not a computer expert...

This sim is GREAT! If you can't enjoy it, it's not so hard to fix things...

[MadBlaster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD5WTJYvqaI watch it in HD!!!

no pc upgrades needed and it's free. my glass overflowith.:-P

[RickRuski]

Just watched LoBiSoMem's video, his system is basically the same as mine and he has the same micro stutters that most seem to have in all the videos that I have watched.

Luthier, the problem is not going to go away until it is fixed.

Cheers

Rick

[LoBiSoMeM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD5WTJYvqaI watch it in HD!!!

no pc upgrades needed and it's free. my glass overflowith.:-P

AMAZING!

And all this with "RC" flight model, limited damage model, limited elevation data for terrain, invisible trees...

Please, don't even try this... :rolleyes:

[LoBiSoMeM]

Just watched LoBiSoMem's video, his system is basically the same as mine and he has the same micro stutters that most seem to have in all the videos that I have watched.

Luthier, the problem is not going to go away until it is fixed.

Cheers

Rick

I have "micro stutters" only in loading map points (02:13 in this video, near Parliament), as EVERBODY have in ArmA 2 and even in Il-2 1946...

"Micro stutters"... Please, change the record! What we have in FIRST RELEASE of CloD was MASSIVE stutters due to texture streaming. Now the sim is NORMAL regards performance!

[MadBlaster]

AMAZING!

And all this with "RC" flight model, limited damage model, limited elevation data for terrain, invisible trees...

Please, don't even try this... :rolleyes:

Yes, trees that kill you when you fly into them. Elevation data in FMB. That and more with just 256 mb 8600GT baby!!! No overclocking or reduced settings required.:)

[LoBiSoMeM]

The two naysayers in this topic really makes ACE-OF-ACES points valid...

I'm out of here, these naysayers are really sick... A lot of CloD "problems" people can see now:

- One guy whats to run CloD in a 256 mb 8600GT;

- Another saw "micro stutters" in normal gameplay...

Run to the hills!

[JG52Krupi]

Yes, trees that kill you when you fly into them. Elevation data in FMB. That and more with just 256 mb 8600GT baby!!! No overclocking or reduced settings required.:)

Are you seriously comparing them!

[MadBlaster]

The two naysayers in this topic really makes ACE-OF-ACES points valid...

I'm out of here, these naysayers are really sick... A lot of CloD "problems" people can see now:

- One guy whats to run CloD in a 256 mb 8600GT;

- Another saw "micro stutters" in normal gameplay...

Run to the hills!

Watch out Lobi, that's not a hill that's a cliff(s of dover)!!!:!:

[NedLynch]

My PC is a "cheap" one, with a now "outdated" AMD CPU, cheap mobo and memo, and a middle end VGA. And I can run Cliffs of Dover like this:

2WuHh9qbyX8

I can use my hardware and configure my software, do cheap upgrades to achieve the performance needed, and i'm not a computer expert...

This sim is GREAT! If you can't enjoy it, it's not so hard to fix things...

I have a similar setup to yours (I know you said your out, but maybe you'll still read this) and the game runs great for me.
And the cpu is not outdated, Bulldozer does not seem to be the great improvement after all. And middle end vga? Last time I looked it was just below to other single gpus. There is still a ton of gpus out there for people to buy that are far inferior to yours and will never ever run this sim satisfactorily.

Plus the future plan as per Luthier will give us a 50% perfromance increase so more good news there. The dev team kept everything they promised to us in the last two betas. Luthier seems to be straight forward without any bs. They are making great progress and I am quite happy with the patch we have gotten.

[RickRuski]

It's not "normal" game play when these stutters have got worse. I was not having any over water, but after 15950 have them there also. Strange that other sims can have smooth playdown low, (ROF for one) but this struggles to achieve that. Sure I believe that this sim will be really great, at the moment as "Ace of Aces" says the glass is "half full". Features that were supposed to be available at release and reported by the developers as having been broken somehow prior to release still have not been fixed, and that was about 7 months ago.

Rick

[CWMV]

No stutters here, definite FPS inclrease, however slight. Smooth as silk...
Until it CTD's!
overall though Very happy with this.

[ElAurens]

I was online in ATAG tonight with no issues flying low, and my machine is a lot older.

Even managed to bag one of those evil Huns.

Game looked good, though it was a bit hazy. Pit looked good, sounds were good. Works for me.



Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.5ghz.

6gigs DDR2 PC2-6400 Mushkin Enhanced

Gigabyte EP45-UD3R mobo

EVGA GTX 570 Superclocked 1280mb

Creative X-Fi Fatal1y Gamer sound card.

[CaptainDoggles]

I have a similar system and get only minor stutters.

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 at 3GHz.

4 GB of DDR2

AMD HD6870

Creative X-Fi also!

What settings do you run at, El?

[Lololopoulos]

ok, dumb question:
My friend helped me build my computer about 2 years ago, we bought the parts and put it together and all that. But now I can't recall my complete system specs. Is there a place in my PC I can look for the names of the hardware and their specs?
I have win7 64 bit that's all i know. lol

[CaptainDoggles]

In the Start Menu, you can right click on "Computer" and hit Properties to get a quick look.

For a more in-depth look you want Device Manager which I think you can access by clicking a link in the top-left of the Computer Properties thing.

[Jumo211]

ok, dumb question:
Is there a place in my PC I can look for the names of the hardware and their specs?
I have win7 64 bit that's all i know. lol

you can also install small free application Speccy from Piriform
and it will tell you all you need to know in an easy nice looking detailed
window every time when you run this application including temperatures :)

http://www.piriform.com/speccy/download
Runs on Microsoft Windows 7, Vista and XP. Including both 32-bit and 64-bit versions.

S!

[JG52Krupi]

ok, dumb question:
My friend helped me build my computer about 2 years ago, we bought the parts and put it together and all that. But now I can't recall my complete system specs. Is there a place in my PC I can look for the names of the hardware and their specs?
I have win7 64 bit that's all i know. lol

Start>Run type dxdiag and hit enter get a lot of details.

[bw_wolverine]

Yep, glass is more than half full for me on the game.

Running the sim just fine (except for the slow down when involved in furballs in the clouds)

Settings mostly to max, trees at medium, textures at original.

i7 940 2.93gHz (Not Overclocked)
GTX 580 1.5gb ram
12gb system ram
Game installed on SSD drive
Running it at 1920 x 1200 on Windows 7 Pro, 64bit

Game is smooth as silk most of the time as I said. Even when weaving in and out of larger bomber formations in multiplayer.

My video card is pretty good, yes, but all the rest of it is pretty cheap stuff now.

My guess is that the people who are still having major issues with the game are mostly people who are running 32bit systems, probably XP.

[Tvrdi]

Yep, glass is more than half full for me on the game.

Running the sim just fine (except for the slow down when involved in furballs in the clouds)

Settings mostly to max, trees at medium, textures at original.

i7 940 2.93gHz (Not Overclocked)
GTX 580 1.5gb ram
12gb system ram
Game installed on SSD drive
Running it at 1920 x 1200 on Windows 7 Pro, 64bit

Game is smooth as silk most of the time as I said. Even when weaving in and out of larger bomber formations in multiplayer.

My video card is pretty good, yes, but all the rest of it is pretty cheap stuff now.

My guess is that the people who are still having major issues with the game are mostly people who are running 32bit systems, probably XP.

your cpu is still top noch mate...btw you should push it a bit...I have my i7920 on stock volt at 3.5Ghz (HT off in BIOS)....it helps for CLOD (and youll get optimal combo with your GPU)...

[bw_wolverine]

your cpu is still top noch mate...btw you should push it a bit...I have my i7920 on stock volt at 3.5Ghz (HT off in BIOS)....it helps for CLOD (and youll get optimal combo with your GPU)...

I've attempted to do stuff in the past, but I always get a 'bad overclock' fail at boot. I've got stock cooling on the processor.

[FFCW_Urizen]

stock ain´t the way to go trying ocing, though i did this once on a P2, sigh, i miss that old monster :D

[Qpassa]

I only have problems over London at low altitude, 25 FPS
stock airfan is bullshit

[ACE-OF-ACES]

My guess is that the people who are still having major issues with the game are mostly people who are running 32bit systems, probably XP.
I think that is a good guess..

That and when you consider that a lot of these 'users' can not even figure out where the game is installed on their PC. Well you have to wonder just how well the PC is configured for gaming.

You know the types of which I speak.

The types that 'feel' the need to dl a MOD for IL-2 and not only have trouble trying to figure out how to unzip the mod, but where to unzip the mod due to not knowing where IL-2 is actually at on their hard drive.

At which point they blame the MOD for the 'problem' never stopping to consider the fact that PC gaming in general requires a little more from the user than being able to hit the ON switch. I suspect that a lot of the squeaky wheels here fall into that category.