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Lololopoulos

10-06-2011, 01:09 AM

Apple CEO Steve Jobs died today at the age of 55. just right after the release of iPhone 4s yesterday...
He will be remembered for the most beautiful pieces of technologies he brought to the world.
http://www.apple.com

:(

Walshy

10-06-2011, 01:20 AM

A giant and innovator gone .............. sad he will be missed. An innovator in his early years but when he came back to Apple from Pixar he definately re-invigorated the company. Mobile phones and tablets had been around for years before Apple got on the band wagon and MADE those products the must have products that everybody had to have through really slick marketing and advertising!! A great man gone ................... My thoughts go to his family

ACE-OF-ACES

10-06-2011, 01:52 AM

AndyJWest

10-06-2011, 02:17 AM

Steve Jobs created the user interface.

Actually, no. The GUI concept was originally created by Xerox. Steve Jobs undoubtedly contributed to its success, but he can't be given all the credit.

Sad to lose someone so young though...

Hellbender

10-06-2011, 02:51 AM

Poor man. Invested so much time and energy into the company and then such a fate...

NedLynch

10-06-2011, 03:38 AM

Poor guy, very sad to go out like this.

CWMV

10-06-2011, 03:42 AM

Hows that song go?
Ding dong the witch is dead...

capt vertigo

10-06-2011, 04:05 AM

Steve Jobs was brilliant..
I was shocked as he was so young..

Don't take it for granted fellas..
Live it for all it's worth..

mike

Vengeanze

10-06-2011, 05:20 AM

He never got to experience CloD in full bloom. ;-)

dflion

10-06-2011, 07:16 AM

He was a very tough boss and a despot (note Ilya). Though what he achieved for the IT world will always be remembered.
DFLion

senseispcc

10-06-2011, 09:02 AM

addman

10-06-2011, 09:14 AM

Feel sorry for his family. On the other hand, why were there no mention of all those Chinese factory workers at Foxconn (component supplier for Apple) who were driven to suicide thanks to the awful working conditions? Guess some people are more important than others....

Sternjaeger II

10-06-2011, 09:17 AM

A man dies and it is terrible.
A million dies and we do not care!

A stupid gadget is more important than people loosing their home ore their jobs?:evil:

This is not the place to discus this or to pay tribute to this man good or bad.

"A stupid gadget"? I'm afraid your view on the innovation introduced by Apple in the last 10 years is very narrow.

Having said this, your rethoric of "one man vs million men" is a bit out of place for an obituary thread, don't you think?

As for the place, I agree, I started a thread in the Off Topic section, but please, let's have some respect.

gflinch

10-06-2011, 10:42 AM

I find it interesting that there is a thread about Steve Jobs passing, to me it shows just how many people respected what he had accomplished.

Sternjaeger:
This was a nice thread to start, but I think you should have known this was just going to be another flame war on this forum. Very little respect is shown to anyone here, living or dead.

-- posting this from my mac.

Ali Fish

10-06-2011, 01:31 PM

RIP Steve Jobs & Bert Jansch.

pupo162

10-06-2011, 01:33 PM

If he had any sense of humor, his grave would say iDied.

he left a mark on earth, and will be remenber long gone. RIP.

speculum jockey

10-06-2011, 05:15 PM

Catseye

10-06-2011, 05:29 PM

This news has made me very sad! In a great part Steve's inventive genius provided me with the best time of my working life and a good income.

Insuber

10-06-2011, 05:32 PM

Well I guess you can jump the organ transplant line and "Buy" a liver, but not so with a pancreas. Even money has its limitations. Horrible disease, and horrible way to die, but not getting any adoration from me, or at least any more sympathy than anyone else who has passed away.

He made popular electronics for people who enjoy overspending.

Bullpoop, my friend. He made my wife, not comfortable at all with PC's, browsing the news on the internet and reading emails for the first time. Now she never quits her iPad.

- A great entrepreneur and innovator -

41Sqn_Stormcrow

10-06-2011, 05:39 PM

Actually I never liked much the philosophy behind the iGadget things as it is definitely a completely closed universe and not open (one reason why I don't have anything with the fruit logo on it). But one has to recognize a genious in his domain and for me iSteve was surely one. So hats off and tribute to an innovative and creative spirit now gone and gone with him other great ideas that he might have had had he just lived longer.

PS: I just love the proposal of grave tomb inscription "iDied". I am sure Jobs would have loved that too.

Sammi79

10-06-2011, 05:40 PM

I will refrain from my usual anti-apple ranting, it is sad to hear of someone going before their time. Closer to my heart though;

R.I.P. Graham Dilley

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/oct/05/former-england-bowler-graham-dilley-dies

R.I.P. to the other 100K folks who died yesterday also.

Tavingon

10-06-2011, 07:32 PM

Never knew the bloke but felt sad today.. Always a terrible waste for someone like this to go so young!

Insuber

10-06-2011, 07:36 PM

I've just learnt that Tim Berners Lee invented and coded the WWW on a Next computer. Another "small" contribution to the world as we know it.

Sternjaeger II

10-06-2011, 08:22 PM

speculum jockey

10-07-2011, 12:41 AM

21,000 Children died all over the world that day, as they did today, and as they will tomorrow. But they didn't use near-slave labour to build mp3 players, so who cares about them.

A RICH WHITE MAN DIED! Everyone stop what they are doing and feel sad!

tk471138

10-07-2011, 01:06 AM

Good riddance....its amazing the sympathy this guy gets for running a business where slave labor is used, in fact conditions are so appealing there is a problem with suicides at apple factories....while at the same time lecturing us about making sacrifices for the environment and the poor...what a joke and a hypocrite....

tk471138

10-07-2011, 01:09 AM

It's frankly shocking how some people have no sense of respect and need to hijack a serious thread with their agendas..

I really think it's true when they say the internet takes the worst out of us :-(

so our adgenda is exposing those who use slave labor....which apparently according to you a bad thing...but steve job's agenda which was to use slave labor for his own gain, well thats just good and worthy of praise....typical hypocrite...o no somoene dies now we must automatically be all sad and ignore every immoral or bad thing they have ever done, in the name of being POLITICALLY CORRECT no thanks sorry im not a brainwashed fool....o steve job made me cheap plastic crap, i must worship him and overlook all the bad things he has done....

retrojet

10-07-2011, 01:56 AM

live every day like its your last....

just wish i could afford to... but he's right...

the guy had balls... no question...

Sternjaeger II

10-07-2011, 09:22 AM

Sammi79

10-07-2011, 12:06 PM

I'm sorry guys, but your home-made morality is is laughable.

Don't you buy stuff made by the same poor slaves you mentioned, in fact feeding that industry?

Steve Jobs was a true innovator, a genius that introduced a new approach to IT that others copied but struggled to deliver. He was also a human being, so surely he wasn't perfect, but his visionary approach inspired a technology leap that can't be dismissed as "little toys", people that do that are like the bigots who laughed at Montgolfier or Wright brothers.

If you understand this then you understand what his loss means, otherwise there's really no point. Whichever the case, have some respect and go post somewhere else.

I must disagree here. There is not one technological idea or gui system created by apple that can claim to be original. They copied others in the first place. Steve Jobbs primary skill was marketeering, not 'innovation' as you put it. When Bill Gates goes, people will have real reason to be sympathetic, particularly certain charities etc... So sad as it is when anyone passes before their time, what was so great about this man? the fact that he managed to create an elitist market for plums who pay the ridiculous inflated price believing they have something better or more original than any other equatable competing product, because they paid 3 times as much for it? Very clever yes, admirable, I don't think so.

Icebear

10-07-2011, 12:22 PM

I'm sorry guys, but your home-made morality is is laughable.

Don't you buy stuff made by the same poor slaves you mentioned, in fact feeding that industry?

Steve Jobs was a true innovator, a genius that introduced a new approach to IT that others copied but struggled to deliver. He was also a human being, so surely he wasn't perfect, but his visionary approach inspired a technology leap that can't be dismissed as "little toys", people that do that are like the bigots who laughed at Montgolfier or Wright brothers.

If you understand this then you understand what his loss means, otherwise there's really no point. Whichever the case, have some respect and go post somewhere else.

Maybe a true innovator, and mabye a genius but for sure a misanthropic capitalist (http://www.taz.de/Ausbeutung-in-neuer-Apple-Fabrik/!79254/) ! I can't pay humage to people who materialize their "visionary approach" on the back of other people and mother nature (http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/0,1518,783764,00.html). Yesterday many humans died, one of them was Steve Jobs.

Rest in piece Steve !

P.S.: A true innovator........ ;)

IJ_SAA4d7OA

speculum jockey

10-07-2011, 12:22 PM

addman

10-07-2011, 12:46 PM

As I mentioned before, it's probably a tough time for his family and friends (real ones that is). Was he innovative? For sure! Nobody had come up with the idea for selling computers/home electronics for at least twice as much as their competitors before.

Seriously though, Apple has always overcharged for their products but at least in the 90's when I bought my PowerMac G3 (beige) for 1800€ (without a monitor) one could at least say that the hardware/software was proprietary. Now the hardware is the same as any other run of the mill PC but they are still overcharging for it, no wonder they're making boatloads of money. The macs these days are over-priced PC's with inferior hardware and Linux as OS, well built? yes! Worth the price tag? IMO never.

tk471138

10-07-2011, 05:43 PM

I'm sorry guys, but your home-made morality is is laughable.

Don't you buy stuff made by the same poor slaves you mentioned, in fact feeding that industry?

Steve Jobs was a true innovator, a genius that introduced a new approach to IT that others copied but struggled to deliver. He was also a human being, so surely he wasn't perfect, but his visionary approach inspired a technology leap that can't be dismissed as "little toys", people that do that are like the bigots who laughed at Montgolfier or Wright brothers.

If you understand this then you understand what his loss means, otherwise there's really no point. Whichever the case, have some respect and go post somewhere else.

i guess using that same logic we should respect hitler too, i mean beyond the horrible immoral things that he did (including the use of salve labor) he did good innovative things for germany and good technological advancements came from them as well...o wait thats not how it works....so i guess hitlers immoral evil things that he had done are tempered by the good he had done...wow great...its like this everytime someone dies everyone gets all sad and ignores the bad, immoral things that they have done, and anyone who rightly brings such things up are 'disrespectful' ....what a joke....steve jobs is just another moron who happened to die that day...why dont you shed a tear for the children who were killed, not some filthy rich Piece of crap hypocrite (im talking about steve jobs)....

ACE-OF-ACES

10-07-2011, 05:48 PM

I'm sorry guys, but your home-made morality is is laughable.
Agreed 100%!

Not only laughable.. but kind of creepy that they see this as their opportunity to vent

tk471138

10-07-2011, 06:13 PM

Agreed 100%!

Not only laughable.. but kind of creepy that they see this as their opportunity to vent

yes i gues speople who speak out against those who use slavery is creepy...

maybe you should be a slave and see how good it is, maybe when you figure out that slavery is not good, maybe then you will figure it out...well you already seem to be a slave since you cant seem to think for yourself and you seem to think that using slave labor is normal, or acceptable....why dont you go to M4T where the retards there seem to think that using slavery is acceptable and does not reflect on steve jobs....

how is exposing and speaking out against slavery "homemade morality'...i guess the northern states were wrong to oppose the south and its policy of enslaving other men....i guess the south was right in defend its "right' to own slaves....what a joke...go learn some history maybe then you will figure out why slavery is bad....1 because it is not in the spirit of freedom and 2 because it ruins economies, and takes away jobs from people who would other wise receive payment for said job.....i mean i guess having a business where suicide is a growing problem is a noble thing...i guess it has nothing to do with the conditions you impose on your workers....

seriously you people are the joke...keep revering these men who used slavery to acquire their wealth...one day when you are the slave you wont be so excited about it....but i guess cuz this is happening in china it dosent matter or is ok....out of sight out of mind eh....talk about small minded...you people are garbage....

Sternjaeger II

10-07-2011, 11:33 PM

I must disagree here. There is not one technological idea or gui system created by apple that can claim to be original. They copied others in the first place. Steve Jobbs primary skill was marketeering, not 'innovation' as you put it. When Bill Gates goes, people will have real reason to be sympathetic, particularly certain charities etc... So sad as it is when anyone passes before their time, what was so great about this man? the fact that he managed to create an elitist market for plums who pay the ridiculous inflated price believing they have something better or more original than any other equatable competing product, because they paid 3 times as much for it? Very clever yes, admirable, I don't think so.

..seriously?! Do you know how many US patents Jobs owned as inventor of co-inventor? More than 300. Who do you think your beloved Gates stole his concepts and ideas from?!

It's shocking to see how you really believe in the philanthropic machine set up by Gates, who's a $59 billion man, as opposed to Jobs, who was "only" $8 billion, and according to many sources did a lot of charity donations without the glam of Gates and his wife..

Uh and regarding all the accusations of slave labour, welcome to the world of capitalism.. Do you really think they had an agenda for slave labour, or that Microsoft didn't receive similar allegations?

You wise guys remind me of this genius here:

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg640/scaled.php?tn=0&server=640&filename=7q2jsc.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Sternjaeger II

10-07-2011, 11:45 PM

Sammi79 hit the nail on the head!

Steve is in the 0.1% of the richest people in the world and has given nothing back. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are real innovators who have pledged to give billions of dollars they do not need to help make the world a better place.

He didn't,did he? :rolleyes:
Didnt know u worked as his accountant.. If you can't understand the essence of his persona from the articles below, then you're hopeless at understanding one of the most brilliant minds of our century..

http://www.maclife.com/article/news/bono_praises_steve_jobs_his_charity_work

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larahoffmans/2011/10/06/the-charity-of-steve-jobs/

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/the-mystery-of-steve-jobss-public-giving/

Sternjaeger II

10-07-2011, 11:58 PM

i guess using that same logic we should respect hitler too, i mean beyond the horrible immoral things that he did (including the use of salve labor) he did good innovative things for germany and good technological advancements came from them as well...o wait thats not how it works....so i guess hitlers immoral evil things that he had done are tempered by the good he had done...wow great...its like this everytime someone dies everyone gets all sad and ignores the bad, immoral things that they have done, and anyone who rightly brings such things up are 'disrespectful' ....what a joke....steve jobs is just another moron who happened to die that day...why dont you shed a tear for the children who were killed, not some filthy rich Piece of crap hypocrite (im talking about steve jobs)....

:shock:

yes i gues speople who speak out against those who use slavery is creepy...

maybe you should be a slave and see how good it is, maybe when you figure out that slavery is not good, maybe then you will figure it out...well you already seem to be a slave since you cant seem to think for yourself and you seem to think that using slave labor is normal, or acceptable....why dont you go to M4T where the retards there seem to think that using slavery is acceptable and does not reflect on steve jobs....

how is exposing and speaking out against slavery "homemade morality'

Every idiot is capable of speaking against slavery (as you well show here), but unless you live on a mountain feeding yourself with berries you do boost the "slavery market" 90% of the times you buy something with "Made in China" written on it.

...i guess the northern states were wrong to oppose the south and its policy of enslaving other men....i guess the south was right in defend its "right' to own slaves....what a joke...go learn some history maybe then you will figure out why slavery is bad....1 because it is not in the spirit of freedom and 2 because it ruins economies, and takes away jobs from people who would other wise receive payment for said job.....i mean i guess having a business where suicide is a growing problem is a noble thing...i guess it has nothing to do with the conditions you impose on your workers....
..has anybody said we're pro-slavery? If thinking of Steve Jobs as a genius and innovator does, the same principle applies for all the Made in China stuff you buy.

seriously you people are the joke...keep revering these men who used slavery to acquire their wealth...one day when you are the slave you wont be so excited about it....but i guess cuz this is happening in china it dosent matter or is ok....out of sight out of mind eh....talk about small minded...you people are garbage....

hey genius, you're using a PC that is running on software developed by Microsoft (who also has allegations of slavery) and which most components are made in China..

Go troll somewhere else.

machoo

10-08-2011, 12:12 AM

All these anti Apple hipsters make me laugh. Without Apple , you would just have vanilla phones and boring tablets. Apple changed the way we do things and set the standard on how things look.

By the way , if you think you are cool by not owning a Apple product but have an Andriod phone you have another thing coming. An Andriod phone with google knows more about you then you know about yourself.

Sammi79

10-08-2011, 01:28 AM

..seriously?! Do you know how many US patents Jobs owned as inventor of co-inventor? More than 300. Who do you think your beloved Gates stole his concepts and ideas from?!

It's shocking to see how you really believe in the philanthropic machine set up by Gates, who's a $59 billion man, as opposed to Jobs, who was "only" $8 billion, and according to many sources did a lot of charity donations without the glam of Gates and his wife..

Uh and regarding all the accusations of slave labour, welcome to the world of capitalism.. Do you really think they had an agenda for slave labour, or that Microsoft didn't receive similar allegations?

You wise guys remind me of this genius here:

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg640/scaled.php?tn=0&server=640&filename=7q2jsc.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Just because he owned the patents does not mean he invented them. How do you think Gates was able to steal the ideas if they were legally owned by someone else? How many patents for clean technologies are 'owned' by the oil men? give me 1 example of a technology or system that is original and from his brain. touch screens? no. GUIs? no. err... what then?

I don't believe in Gates philanthropic machine, but I do believe in his verified donations to charity as well as publicly speaking out about issues that effect us all and are obviously important to him, so according to your many sources... link please. And those links you did post? well they all imply that he gave nothing to charity. Honestly, Bono and a Hedge fund manager?

I have been bombarded today by many people expressing their blind love for Jobs and his empire, every single forum I look at has an identical post, facebook no less than 7 friends etc... Apples marketing dept. really did a number on a lot of folks huh? get things in perspective. Or alternatively just insult us 'wise guys' if it makes you feel better. Flame me all you want, go on, prove to me that you were sold on that iCrap, Hook, line and sinker. My views on Apple and their products are based on personal experience, not bigoted prejudice.

edited.

tk471138

10-08-2011, 03:36 AM

:shock:

Every idiot is capable of speaking against slavery (as you well show here), but unless you live on a mountain feeding yourself with berries you do boost the "slavery market" 90% of the times you buy something with "Made in China" written on it.

..has anybody said we're pro-slavery? If thinking of Steve Jobs as a genius and innovator does, the same principle applies for all the Made in China stuff you buy.

hey genius, you're using a PC that is running on software developed by Microsoft (who also has allegations of slavery) and which most components are made in China..

Go troll somewhere else.

if you were not pro slavery you would care about me speaking out against it...
also i dont really buy things, especially cheap things i dont need that are generally made in china... im not the typical foolish american...i dont have a "smart phone"...i just have a cell phone...i dont know why i need a smart phone im smart enough with out a phone, i never needed a smart phone in the past, and their is no reason why i need one now...i dont need a smart phone that can do ALOT of things half asked...sorry im not a hypocrite, which seems to be the norm for alot of these people...

the only microsoft things i own are dvd...im sure the dvd making process is pretty much all automated....

raaaid

10-08-2011, 01:57 PM

do you know what an apple with a bite stands for?

tree of science anyone?

exactly, enlightenment

http://chimac.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/353363834_5bc2c362e3.jpg

the bad thing is that living life wittout blinders makes you look a total wacko

ACE-OF-ACES

10-08-2011, 02:12 PM

yes i gues speople who speak out against those who use slavery is creepy... <snip>
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