voids

[jayrc]

new to skinning in cliffs, have done some in 1946 but there were voids to work with, can't find any in cliffs? are there any tutorials for cliffs skinning, any help will be greatly appreciated, I'll keep looking for now, thanks, Jay

[checkmysix]

Hi jayrc
There are no voids as such with CLOD as the aircraft lines,Rivets and Internals are Hardcoded and added over the skin in Game.
You can still Create your own Skins using the Blank Skins Supplied but cannot edit Lines etc.
Which is actually Better as you dont have to "Remove White" and Use "Bright" as you did in il2 1946 I find it more user Friendly.
Saying that however there is one teething problem,I have just completed a Spitfire skinpack[http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26421] and
the Hardcoded Lines are Weathered by Default rather than clean and allowing me
to weather manually in game.
Here is an Excellent You Tube tutorial by BullyBoii1234 showing how to add skins to CLOD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zG3x3VkFVQ
Hope this Helps
Keith

[jayrc]

this is awesome, just did a test and it works great, thank you:cool:

[VO101_Tom]

Hi.
The aircraft skin is scattered in many small parts. I made a panel-finder.jpg, which, if you put in the game, and the program, it is much easier to find them. Like this: Panel finder on the 109 (http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO101_Tom/Panel_Finder_109.jpg)

Panel Finder Color (http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO101_Tom/Panel_Finder_by_Tom_2_2048x2048.jpg)
Panel Finder White (www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO101_Tom/Panel_Finder_by_Tom_2W_2048x2048.jpg)
S!

[Shado]

I cant recommend Tom's panel finder high enough, it will make your life much easier, give it try.

[jayrc]

Thanks tom, I'm a little rusty, can't seem to get the panel finder over the aircraft skin, I try color to alpha, rgb, copy visible layer, past as new layer, merge visible layer but all I get left is the panel finder, I'm sure I'm doing it wrong, I found some old vids for using gimp with IL2 1946 but I'm struggling here, wish there was a tutorial in the sticky here, video would be great, any help? I saw some really nice skins on the servers the other night, I want a custom skin too.:grin: thanks, Jay

[aelius]

Let me thank you, as well, for the panel overlay.

I had to use a patterned one before, which, as you might suspect, was of limited use.

This should make finding those pesky bits a bit easier.

[VO101_Tom]

Thanks tom, I'm a little rusty, can't seem to get the panel finder over the aircraft skin, I try color to alpha, rgb, copy visible layer, past as new layer, merge visible layer but all I get left is the panel finder, I'm sure I'm doing it wrong, I found some old vids for using gimp with IL2 1946 but I'm struggling here, wish there was a tutorial in the sticky here, video would be great, any help? I saw some really nice skins on the servers the other night, I want a custom skin too.:grin: thanks, Jay

Hi. Use the black and white picture and set the layer properties to multiply (Photoshop). If you are using GIMP, then I think the same type is the "multiplication" layer (using this word in the Hungarian version).

[VO101_Tom]

This should make finding those pesky bits a bit easier.
I'm glad if its useful. :)

[CWMV]

OK, I'm using GIMP, and am also having trouble using this panel finder.
Any detailed instructions from another GIMP user?
EDIT: And will this actually make the panel lines show up in GIMP? That's what I really need. Otherwise lining up markings is damn near impossible!

[jayrc]

well I'v been playing around and watching some videos and I figured out how to get the panel finder overlayed on an aircraft skin but the letters and numbers are unreadable, any tips for clearing them up?


here's what I did to get the panel finder over ac skin in gimp: first open gimp, open ac skin, open panel finder as new layer, color to alpha, save, but like I said it's unreadable:(

[VO101_Tom]

well I'v been playing around and watching some videos and I figured out how to get the panel finder overlayed on an aircraft skin but the letters and numbers are unreadable, any tips for clearing them up?


here's what I did to get the panel finder over ac skin in gimp: first open gimp, open ac skin, open panel finder as new layer, color to alpha, save, but like I said it's unreadable:(

Unreadable in the game, or on the jpg? Can you upload a picture?

tip 1: open gimp, open ac skin, open panel finder as new layer, layer mode to multipy, save (jpg quality 100%)

tip 2: no matter how fast your PC, set the texture quality to "Original" in CloD

[VO101_Tom]

OK, I'm using GIMP, and am also having trouble using this panel finder.
Any detailed instructions from another GIMP user?
EDIT: And will this actually make the panel lines show up in GIMP? That's what I really need. Otherwise lining up markings is damn near impossible!

Instructions? Which number you see on the airplane, you find the same number in the Gimp layer. I don't know what else should say... What is your problem exactly?

Panel lines? No, these are just numbers. As you can see in the jpg :rolleyes:. If you need panel line, download it from here:
http://cliffsofdover.fr/skin2.php?recherche=defaut&trie=date

[CWMV]

I just don't grasp the utility of this tool is all.
Thanks for the link to the panel lines.
EDIT: Wow! The panel line template you linked me to was perfect! Exactly what I was looking for!
Many thanks.

[jayrc]

here's what it looks like zoomed in, can't read at all zoomed out, I don't see layer mode to multiply in the gimp menu, thanks, Jay

[VO101_Tom]

here's what it looks like zoomed in, can't read at all zoomed out, I don't see layer mode to multiply in the gimp menu, thanks, Jay

Ok.

Here is my Gimp. I have no problem with the readability (original size (http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO101_Tom/gimp1.jpg), 500% zoom (http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO101_Tom/gimp3.jpg))

My method:
- Open the skin.jpg
- Open the panelfinder.jpg as new layer
- The panelfinder.jpg on the top (layers list)
- Select it, and set the Layer mode to Multiply (Pic1) (http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO101_Tom/gimp1.jpg).

True, the black numbers less visible over the dark areas. You can solve this problem in many ways, the simpliest, if you put a new layer between Skin and numbers, and you paint with a brighter color over the dark areas. The other ways, you can use mask layers or invert the number colors, but these are much complicated ways to solve this issue.