Suggesting about how you change the VIEWs in game

[sorak]

Im not saying this should be #1 top priority or anything. Just getting it out there if no one has said anything about this before.

For people using track IR this probably isnt an issue for them also


I would like the view positions to be able to REMEMBER where they left off.
For Example:

When in cockpit view and if you move your view around with the mouse positioning your self how you want then if you hit the Gunsight view button to zoom in a bit in your gun sights and then hit it again to go back to your view it currently goes back to the center default position. Really annoying. This also happens when changing to any other view like the external views and what not.

An option in the game to be able to remember your view positions would be an awesome little feature down the road one day.

Let me know if anyone doesnt quite understand what im saying and ill try to explain it better


P.S
Love the game so much and the team that makes it. Thanks

[wildone_106]

Totally agree with you on this, but with all the other crap they gotta fix..unlikely to happen soon:(

[conio]

Sorak, I recommend you give freetrack a try (www.free-track.net/english/)
I'm using it with a ps3 eye cam (got it used for $24) and works great.

I promise that once you get used to head tracking you will never go back!

If you don't want to modify a webcam or build a led array, you could also try facetracknior (http://facetracknoir.sourceforge.net/home/default.htm) although I'm not still convinced about it.

[335th_GRAthos]

Sorak, I recommend you give freetrack a try (www.free-track.net/english/)

Interesting SW, I had a look at their website.

I am not sure I understood that sentense in the FAQ:
Q: Can I use my TrackIR camera with FreeTrack?
A: disable on FreeTrack 2.2.0.278 and newver.

So, is it working with TRACKIR hardware or not?


~S~

[albx]

Interesting SW, I had a look at their website.

I am not sure I understood that sentense in the FAQ:
Q: Can I use my TrackIR camera with FreeTrack?
A: disable on FreeTrack 2.2.0.278 and newver.

So, is it working with TRACKIR hardware or not?


~S~

In older freetrack software you could use TrackIR hardware, in the newer you can't because was removed on Naturalpoint request :rolleyes:. You need to build your 3 led points (for a 6DOF) and have a webcam.

[335th_GRAthos]

in the newer you can't because was removed on Naturalpoint request :rolleyes:.

I thought so, what a bunch of §"$§$§$&&#* !!!

From your signature I see that your are using Win7 so I deduct that FreeTrack is working with Win7 (because in the forum I saw postings from people who did not manage to make it work with Win7-64...)

~S~

[Continu0]

It´s working fine for me on Windows 7.

If you want to try it, read the feedbacks they gave about the cameras. It´s worth to spend 10-20 $ more for a camera that works well with the game/Software.

In my case i bought one(Hercules Classic Silver) whose driver always switched the settings to default when changing to the game. Very annoying but i finally solved it.

@conio. I fly with head tracking since a few days now and have to figure out the settings. It still feels a bit strange. Will i get used to it? How long will it take?

[albx]

I thought so, what a bunch of §"$§$§$&&#* !!!

From your signature I see that your are using Win7 so I deduct that FreeTrack is working with Win7 (because in the forum I saw postings from people who did not manage to make it work with Win7-64...)

~S~

yes, as Continu0 said it works very well on Windows7 x64, need just to have directx9 updated and you are fine. The devs are working on a new version, hope to see it soon :)

[pupo162]

I thought so, what a bunch of §"$§$§$&&#* !!!

From your signature I see that your are using Win7 so I deduct that FreeTrack is working with Win7 (because in the forum I saw postings from people who did not manage to make it work with Win7-64...)

~S~


To be fair with natural point, apparentely free track does use some of natural points coding unauthorized.

i did a freetrack to, but it didnt turn out well, i have a track ir, and its jsut plain awsome, i was amazed how it worked straight out of the box.

still, good luck on your free track, if it goes out nice, you will spare 100 bucks.

[albx]

To be fair with natural point, apparentely free track does use some of natural points coding unauthorized.


no unauthorized code is used, was only added the possibility to use TrackIR hardware with freetrack, NP didn't liked it so it was removed. The code is not a Naturalpoint patent, how can you patent a math calc? Better not start again this discussion Freetrack VS TrackIR because will not go anywhere. :)

[conio]

Continu0,
Yes, it takes some time to get used to it but once you do, you can't fly without it.

As for Win7 64, that 's what I'm running it on. The only issue I had was with freetrack was with the ps3 eye cam but there is an unofficial patch in the freetrack forum that makes it work.

[Sokol1]

You need to build your 3 led points (for a 6DOF) and have a webcam.

Optionally to build 3 LED points, you can use NP TrackClip PRO with Freetrack.

Sokol1

[albx]

Optionally to build 3 LED points, you can use NP TrackClip PRO with Freetrack.

Sokol1

yep, but seems easy to broke, and 30$ seems too much for 3 IR leds, I made mine with straws :grin:

[sorak]

Sorak, I recommend you give freetrack a try (www.free-track.net/english/)
I'm using it with a ps3 eye cam (got it used for $24) and works great.

I promise that once you get used to head tracking you will never go back!

If you don't want to modify a webcam or build a led array, you could also try facetracknior (http://facetracknoir.sourceforge.net/home/default.htm) although I'm not still convinced about it.

I have tried it and yes it does work good.. But my computer is lowspec right now and running freetrack in the background does take up some CPU usage unfortunatly

and facetracker takes up much more CPU usage..

Ive allways plan on making one with freetracker or getting Track IR once I have a fast enough computer to actually enjoy it..

Just hoping they will fix this minor issue so the experience without any face tracking program is better
I would think this wouldnt be to hard of a fix to implement either.

[Sokol1]

Sorak,

In this case try: emulating mouse view with HAT whit JoyToKey or NewView.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBcu_3Hn9IA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdqHRgq4ZE&feature=related

Sokol1

[sorak]

Sorak,

In this case try: emulating mouse view with HAT whit JoyToKey or NewView.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBcu_3Hn9IA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdqHRgq4ZE&feature=related

Sokol1


Thats nice.. but that wouldnt solve the problem of the views changing back to default spots when changing views

[Sokol1]

Maybe one of these NV options for centering help:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1558/nv37x.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/nv37x.jpg/)

Sokol1

[335th_GRAthos]

Thank you Sokol for this screenshot, I will keep it for the day I decide to bite the bullet and install NetView or FreeTrack! :)


Thanks to all of you guys for the advice.

Just to explain the reason for my questions, I use TRACKIR but I always used it without 3DOF. Subsequently I forgot where in the warehouse I put my TRACKIR 3DOF reflector + Activation code and I am too lazy to go through 50 kartons just to find it.
And the reason I need it is because of this "§"$%& idea to have the Bf109 Revi gunsight not centering and leaving full head movement at the same time.

So it is my combination of laziness (too lazy to install other things) + stuborness (too stuborn to let it go) which drives me ;)

~S~

[Sokol1]

Tip to config NewView (3.7x) to center Bf-109 gunsight in CloD without restrain FOV.

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=67864&page=10&p=1644536&viewfull=1#post1644536

Sokol1

[MeatEtr]

On a semi-related note, wish the external cam key didn't give the AI control of the plane automatically. This was puzzling me for awhile, since I couldnt get control back of my own plane by clicking the AI control(A key) or cockpit view key. Only way to get back control was to use the alt-F1 keys to "take control of AI plane".

So I guess only way to have a free roam external cam is to give your plane to the AI. Or am I missing something? Right now I'm using the external follow key, but want to move the camera around. I swear the controls are even more confusing than the original IL2. Way too much trial and error for this returning IL2 player.

[Sokol1]

So I guess only way to have a free roam external cam is to give your plane to the AI. Or am I missing something?

Just hit F2 an move your mouse or joystick POV HAT, TrackIR... In the same way in "old" IL-2 1946.

SOkol1

[sorak]

On a semi-related note, wish the external cam key didn't give the AI control of the plane automatically. This was puzzling me for awhile, since I couldnt get control back of my own plane by clicking the AI control(A key) or cockpit view key. Only way to get back control was to use the alt-F1 keys to "take control of AI plane".

So I guess only way to have a free roam external cam is to give your plane to the AI. Or am I missing something? Right now I'm using the external follow key, but want to move the camera around. I swear the controls are even more confusing than the original IL2. Way too much trial and error for this returning IL2 player.

hehe.. i never had that issue before.. I just hit the external view key (default is f2) and im in the external view with no AI controlling my plane. I fly only online though right now.. So im not sure what is happening to you.. I would go check your key bindings and see what take control of AI plane button is set to or something. Or maybe you are hitting "SHIFT f2" or "CTRL F2" and instead of viewing the external view of your plane your cycling threw Enemy planes or Friendly planes.

[MeatEtr]

My F2 key is "external view-cycle enemy aircraft", which does just that. I currently use the key labeled just "external view", but as previously mentioned it gives the AI control of my plane. What is the exact name of your F2 key, I might have changed it?

[pandaa109]

I had a similar problem. I looked in controls and I have two controls next to each other labelled 'external view'. I tried the previously unused one and that works without ai taking control.