Il-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs Of Dover BETA Patch v 1.03.15527

[luthier]

It's here! Here's the readme:

BETA NOTE
* RUSSIAN README: Извините, не успеваем перевести!
* ENGLISH README: This readme is only partial;
* SOUND: Still working on the content for the new engine, but many of the features are already present in this build;
* MAPS: No new missions are provided for these in the beta version of the patch.

MAIN
* Drastically reworked graphic algorithms dealing with in-game color;
* Rewrote the sound engine from scratch;
* Added three new multiplayer maps: Steppe (medium), Fields (small), and Scimitar (small);
* Updated multiplayer GUI to allow users to easily select a position in an existing plane.
* Added two new aircraft - Bf. 109 E-4 and Bf. 109 E-4/B. These two are equipped with MG/FF-M cannons and so make use of the famous Minegeschoss.

AIRCRAFT - MAIN
* Reworked routines for gyro bombsights;
* Removed allusion to Engine 4 from He 111 model;
* Improved memory consumption for multi-crew aircraft;
* Airborne status is now checked correctly even if the aircraft in question departed prematurely;
* Landing status should be applied correctly when ditching in water;

VISUALS
* Reworked bombardier cockpits in aircraft so affected (He. 111 and Ju. 88) to accomodate new Lotfe gyro routines;
* Small caliber bullet hits on the ground now show difference in material being hit;
* Modifications in Blenheim's damage visuals;
* Added a range of visual SFX for higher-caliber guns;
* New bombsight visuals in Blenheim bombardier's cabin;
* Returned the famous Il-2 stall sound effect;
* Doubled the distance at which the tracers can be seen.

PHYSICS & A.I.
* Increased Lotfe bombsight gyro operational limit to 15 degrees of aircraft roll / pitch;
* Lotfe type bomb sight now stabilizes aiming platform to horizontal plane;
* Removed sudden jump in view angle when viewing through Lotfe ocular and moving bomb sight elevation for the first time in the flight;
* Increased side slip input limit to +/* 30 degrees for the Lotfe bomb sight;
* Made Kurssteuerung mode 2 for level bombers. This mode will also stabilize the aircraft in level flight;
* Reworked motor startup routines to accomodate new options available in the new sound engine;
* Adjusted ricochet angles on firm surfaces;
* Redesigned bomb sight in Blenheim and made it easier and more realistic to use;
* Blenheim bomb sight plane is now adjustable to reflect changes in plane AoA in level flight. Correction is applied automatically over a period of sustained flight and can compensate up to 3 degree changes in plane attitude;
* Fixed issue where overstress would inflict damage to airframe regardless of the Vulnerability difficulty setting.

NETWORK
* Changes to bombs' detonators setup will now be carried over once applied without the need to rejoin the server;
* Increased Lotfe bombsight gyro operational limit to 15 degrees of roll / pitch. This will give more tolerance to aircraft maneuvers as strict limits put too much obstacle to communication between bombardier and pilot while playing on-line;
* When flying as a bombardier, you should now use "Aircraft - Drop Ordnance (Bombs)" key (instead of "General - Fire Current Weapon" key) to drop bombs. This will remove confusion of on-line bombardier players who could not drop bombs using the key we're accustomed to.

AIRCRAFT - MISC.
* Decreased bombsight altitude indents by ten times. This will give you more control of the altitude input and make bomb sight aiming more precise;
* You can now switch off the boost cut-out control in Spitfires.



Download links - RUSSIAN
The file is 499 MB (524,281,733 bytes)
torrent: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=55442AUK
direct link (megaupload): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CCGAAQ9T


Download links - ENGLISH
The file is 499 MB (524,287,214 bytes)
torrent: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JLF4FU6J
direct link (megaupload): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MA26GNU1

[JG52Krupi]

Yay, Thanks Luthier.

[burlaff]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

[Tree_UK]

woohoo

[FlyingShark]

Indeed, Yipee.

~S~

[mazex]

Unexpected :)

Arghh! What good is my 100Mbit fibre with only 3 people sharing the file ;)

[Manu22]

extraordinaire !

[5./JG27 Lehmann]

Yay! <3

[albx]

yesssssssssssssssss

[Tavingon]

Call me silly but will this work if im using steam? What do I do?

[Jugdriver]

Let the freakout begin!

JD
AKA_MattE

[Ze-Jamz]

Yee f##n Ha!

[SG1_Lud]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Jatta Raso]

f****ng s**t it had to be now that i'm waiting for a 4h rendering to finish!!

thank you Luthier and team:mrgreen::cry:

[ACE-OF-ACES]

It's here!
Thank you Luthier

[jayrc]

thank you:cool:

[EagleEye[GER]]

Excelent!

[TRIK]

Any servers able to run the patch or is this a singleplayer only?

[Flanker35M]

S!

Well, was worth use the time waiting working on my BMW M5 :) Now time to download and test before bedtime :) Thanks Luthier & Team!

[JG52Krupi]

Is the torrent working for anyone?

[T}{OR]

Awesome. Many thanks!

[kestrel79]

nice. Test it out boys.

I hope there's some performance increases as well?

[adonys]

let's see.. no word on the radio comm?!!

[Jaws2002]

Thank you. I'm glad i have one extra day off.:grin:

[albx]

I think we better wait for a direct link, 1 seeder and more than 80 leechers will take ages to download it :D

[Doc_uk]

Guys plz seed when done....Plz

[MoGas]

ja was sogiii

[borchi]

Thank you...

[SG1_Lud]

Awesome. Many thanks!


looks like good times for the bombers! :)

[PeterPanPan]

Yippee, thanks Luthier and team :grin:

PPP

[Doc_uk]

looks like good times for the bombers! :) Yea and the Germans:rolleyes:

[Blackdog_kt]

Very welcome list of changes and fixes. I hope the gyrocompass in the 88 is also included, seeing how most of the bombers got some love. Also, the Blenheim will now be useful as a level bomber too.

I'm off to download and test it, thanks for the continued support and keep up the good work.

Also, thread is now sticky.




Call me silly but will this work if im using steam? What do I do?

You manually download the file to your hard disk, then manually extract it (it's usually a compressed .rar file) to

(your steam parent folder)\steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover

It will ask you if you want to overwrite some existing files, click "yes".

If you want to roll back to the previous version, run a file integrity check through Steam and it will revert back to the latest non-beta version.

[Norseman]

Thank You team so far !
Keep up the good progress :)
~S~

[Tavingon]

How long before its on steam?

[Doc_uk]

Downloading at 0.6 KB/s lol:)

[Welshman]

Is the torrent working for anyone?

not for me

ok its flying now , eta 2 weeks 2 days haha . i know it will get faster , but 500meg is only a few mins download normally lol

[fireship4]

Thanks.

[JG52Krupi]

Downloading at 0.6 KB/s lol:)

300 KB/s :P

[luthier]

Sorry folks, nearly 700 leechers off of one poor me.

Direct download for English 60 seconds away!

[furbs]

We need Luthier to get his team to seed.

[Birdflu]

Wow!! Tnks

[Jaws2002]

I see in the readme the E4 will have the Mineshells. How about the BF-110's? Did the BF-110 get minegeshos as well?

[luthier]

And here's the direct link for the INTERNATIONAL version

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MA26GNU1

[Doc_uk]

300 KB/s :P
Just going up now :) 150 KB/s and risen:)

[Dr str@nglove]

Downloading at 0.6 KB/s lol:)

downloading @300kbs :grin:

[naz]

How long before its on steam?

It wont be on steam mate...its a beta patch.

have a look at Blackdog's post above yours for instructions on how to install

:)

EDIT: What Cheesehawk said ;-)

[mazex]

Sorry folks, nearly 700 leechers off of one poor me.

Direct download for English 60 seconds away!

He he, I was number 3 and now I have 1.2 Mbit/s after a slow start ;)

55% down...

[Gromic]

Thx luthier and crew!

lmao watching the status on Deluge. Looks like Sweden will win this one ;)

[JG52Krupi]

He he, I was number 3 and now I have 1.2 Mbit/s after a slow start ;)

55% down...

How long left i have 9 mins :P

[Dr str@nglove]

luthier any word on sli support ?

[=vit_unit=]

U lucky, guys, who are not from Russia))
It's because of 2 reasons.
1. Luthier came here first, then he went to russian forum)
2. Readme file is only english version:rolleyes:

[Gromic]

Mazex - that you hitting 80% now?

grrrr... Wait for me guys!

[mazex]

How long left i have 9 mins :P

1 min 05 now :) 86%

[JG52Krupi]

1 min 05 now :) 86%

:mad: 4 mins

[mazex]

Mazex - that you hitting 80% now?

grrrr... Wait for me guys!

100% now! He he! Unpacking :)

Wow - the sounds are just as awsome as in Luthiers video (have tried the 109 first). The lighting is COMPLETELY different. France is bathing in sunlight and it looks warm!

Awsome patch so far!!!

[bongodriver]

Do us a favour guys, don't shut down your p2p as soon as it's finished......please

[Zappatime]

14mins to go, its flying :)

[Doc_uk]

3.5 MB/sec im just about done :)

[ATAG_Doc]

Thank you!

[jayrc]

4min23sec

[Gromic]

rgr bongo. Not to worry - will keep seeding. :)

[Jaws2002]

And here's the direct link for the INTERNATIONAL version

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MA26GNU1


Thank you.:grin:

[JG52Krupi]

Do us a favour guys, don't shut down your p2p as soon as it's finished......please

Oh what to do HAHAHAHA no I will keep it up dont worry even though i have it via direct already :P

[anavas44]

Thank you so much Luthier and team! We really appreciate it

[JG52Krupi]

You guys should be thanking me im uploading at ~170 kB/s :D

[bongodriver]

Thanks guys

[335th_GRAthos]

luthier any word on sli support ?

Oh my God, you said the word that was not to be told... :D


U lucky, guys, who are not from Russia))
It's because of 2 reasons.
1. Luthier came here first, then he went to russian forum)
2. Readme file is only english version

Thank you Vit for the heads up! :)
Good to hear that sometimes[/b][/i] we have some priority in the eyes of Luthier





Many Thanks Luthier!



~S~

[mazex]

Do us a favour guys, don't shut down your p2p as soon as it's finished......please

I'm sharing at 600 kb/s while I play :)

[Doc_uk]

Im done :) now defraging
My up speed is 840 KB/s:)

[Gromic]

Commentator on PA....

....mazex takes the win with a chap from Germany in second. Here comes the main pack pounding around the back stretch. Yes sir, hard to see with all the dust thrown up but you can hear the thunder as they race towards the gate...

Lol guys, sorry that my happy meter burst a valve but it's finally here.

Epic!

Cheers

Gromic

P.S. Happy testing everyone!

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

great news!

[mazex]

I love it - the Merlin is awesome too! And the gun sounds... Mmm...

[Ataros]

Do not forget to defrag Steam\CloD directory after installation or performance can degrade. The patch is big and creates many fragmented files while installing that can result in stutters.

[AARPRazorbacks]

Thanks for the patch.
What about MP?
Will the server in MP have to have this also to be able to join there server?

[Meusli]

Don't be a jerk :mad:

What on earth is that for? To Luthier thanks for the update and thank you for giving it to us before your fellow country men, I appreciate it.

[Pato Salvaje]

Keep the good work Luthier!!! thank you for keep it live...

I can´t install it now... someone can put any comment about? record of sound´s... anything??? UUFF I´m eating my finger´s... ;-)

[robtek]

This is the kind of work that should of been in the original release. Lets all not forget that. :mad:

Ooowwwhh! SHUT UP!

Better, follow your advice from post #73.

[Pato Salvaje]

This is the kind of work that should of been in the original release. Lets all not forget that. :mad:

What?? At least they are still there, working an improving it... the past is the past... I look forward to future...;)

[capt vertigo]

Yaaaay!!

So glad this sim is still alive and kicking.. :cool:

Thx Luthier

Mike

[Jaws2002]

Done.:-P

[dasSofa]

Rapidshare link for the English Version https://rapidshare.com/files/3765109620/IL2COD_15527.rar

[Meusli]

I am at work so can not get access at this moment so let us know how it is guys, please. PRETTY PLEASE WITH CHERRIES ON TOP!

:)

[Boogz]

Awesome - thank you Luthier and team for your hard work, now off to do some flying :)

[katdogfizzow]

sweeeet

[5./JG27.Farber]

Excellant!

[catito14]

GREAT!! Thanks Luthier and all the team!

MUCHAS GRACIAS MUCHACHOS!!

Regards

[Triggaaar]

Well done team

[Tree_UK]

Ok first patch thoughts.

1) Terrain colour is a lot better.
2) Shore line looks much much better
3) Sounds are are massive improvement, though not tested everything yet.
4) FPS took at hit, pre patch on Blackdeath trk, with everything maxed out at 1920X1200 I would average 57FPS, now Im at 47FPS so quite a drop.
5) Tree shadows still flickering but dont seem as bad
6) Still no FSAA???

[ATAG_Bliss]

Tree,

How's the stuttering/graphics loading times? Any change from previous?

[Meusli]

Ok first patch thoughts.

1) Terrain colour is a lot better.
2) Shore line looks much much better
3) Sounds are are massive improvement, though not tested everything yet.
4) FPS took at hit, pre patch on Blackdeath trk, with everything maxed out at 1920X1200 I would average 57FPS, now Im at 47FPS so quite a drop.
5) Tree shadows still flickering but dont seem as bad
6) Still no FSAA???


Cheers for the heads up tree, did you test SLI? I guess with no FSAA there is no fix for SLI/Crossfire.

[Flanker]

Wait, wait!!!! what's with the Steam, when it will download from Steam?????? :confused:

[5./JG27.Farber]

Wait, wait!!!! what's with the Steam, when it will download from Steam?????? :confused:

It wont until the Beta patch is made official... Maybe monday?

You have to Download and install yourself.

[GraveyardJimmy]

Wait, wait!!!! what's with the Steam, when it will download from Steam?????? :confused:

This is a beta patch. The steam version will come out after this has been tested in the community and will automatically download and install.

If you want to try the patch out now, head to the sticky topic at the top of the forum and download it (500mb). Then you will need to extract it over your game files.

[Tree_UK]

Tree,

How's the stuttering/graphics loading times? Any change from previous?

Im going to run some test now buddy, loading times seem a tad longer but stuttering seems better, but more tests required at the moment.

[SiThSpAwN]

4) FPS took at hit, pre patch on Blackdeath trk, with everything maxed out at 1920X1200 I would average 57FPS, now Im at 47FPS so quite a drop.

I thought it was stated somewhere that using old tracks after a patch didnt always translate well, how are FPS during actual play, the same drop?


At work so cant test myself :)

[JG52Krupi]

Tree,

How's the stuttering/graphics loading times? Any change from previous?

Bliss have you updated your server yet?

Please say yes, please say yes!!!

[Welshman]

maybe people should not sync with the steam cloud while using this beta .. just a thought ..

[Tree_UK]

Fuel load out in single player is still broken.
Flickering shadows is actually a little worse, when I flew an SP mission.

Stuttering is still there but only when flying low.
Channel colour is a lot better.

....and did I say that the sound is good.... its a lot better.:grin:

AI.... is still poor.

E4 turns like a spit!! But being a blue pilot im not complaing!! :grin:


oh Fraps works again!!

[ATAG_Bliss]

Bliss have you updated your server yet?

Please say yes, please say yes!!!

I won't be home for a couple hours :( Hopefully someone else can get to it b4 then.

[SUP_Trok]

many thanks for this desired patch. I hope to return to fly with this sim.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Sounds are better, especially for Bf109E :) Bf109E-4 is SWEET! Land colors and overall feel mucho better as the shore lines. Shadows flicker still and the AMD users will notice the "3 lines" in horizon, but VERY faintly.

Most performance hit for me are the shadows and trees. Especially trees cause stuttering at low altitude flying. Up high no problemo. The beta is a leap towards CoD being what it should have been so remaining hopeful for the future patches :)

In short, an improvement in a positive way while some issues remain.

[JG52Krupi]

We have wingtip vortices whoo!

[stephan87]

good job!!!!!


спасибо!!!

[ChiefRedCloud]

Is the torrent working for anyone?

Did for me ......:cool:

[Pluto]

Thx luthier and crew!

lmao watching the status on Deluge. Looks like Sweden will win this one ;)

... dito !
:)

[Pato Salvaje]

We have wingtip vortices whoo!

PHOTOS PLEASE!!!:grin:

[gelbevierzehn]

Thx a lot Luthier & Team for your dedication !!!!!

[Fergal69]

Another thank you from me to the team

[Strike]

Great Luthier, downloading now!

I'll post whatever bugs I find and especially make note of the ones that are STILL present. Talking about loadout menus etc..

Some of these things need a little more love and it would be awesome if you managed to throw in some of that before the official patch :)

Can't wait to properly test this!!

[Rextar]

Luth be my dad please!!!!! X
Great news!

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

Thanks Luthier;-)

[David198502]

took a first glance!!!
and i have to say...waoh!
the new lightening is great.way way better now.didnt have much time to look carefully for all the new features.just took the E4 and killed some spits.its funny to saw wings off now.
ah and the sounds.....great!i love the way the lowering landing gear sounds now.
tomorrow i will have a deeper look into the new world of cod.

[ATAG_Doc]

Man I have to stay here at work for a few more hours. What a drag.

[DUI]

I only had some few quick missions with the E-4 against some bombers, therefore cannot say very much about the changes.

What I can say is that it is great sounds with the 109 and the atmosphere in general!

And I have the impression that the AI gunners have become much more accurate - they shot my beautiful E-4 every time in pieces. :-o

[ATAG_Doc]

There is going to be a lot of crow eating going on for a while now.

[Fjordmonkey]

Took the E4 out for a little spin, and....Whoa, man. Just...Whoa.

I actually got my better half breathing fire down my neck because of the sounds. They are simply AWESOME! FINALLY the 109 sounds like a 109. Actually got shot down twice and crashed once because I couldn't stop doing flybys :P

I also found that I definately liked the new colors etc. Also got a nice boost in performance, even with everything maxed out. Had some stuttering when I was down low in the trees, maneuvering heavily and panning around a lot, but nothing major.

The only issue I found was that for some reason, I've got "rainbows" (tearing etc) between some panel-lines and certain places in the E4's cockpit. Nothing too major.

Only somewhat annoyance was the static reflection in the instruments, and that only somewhat. Would love for them to be dynamic, or have the option to remove them. Probably something I'll get used to.

All in all: Applauds all around! Another good step towards becoming THE WWII-sim for years and years to come.

[Welshman]

still not fixed the FFB still shaking even after the plane has crashed , its somewhat annoying .

not related to the patch but thought id mention it incase noone ever has

[Zappatime]

My first thoughts:
1 Sounds are wonderful in comparison to original ones

2 Lighting looks more natural, plus noticed more sun glare at dawn

3 More white wave crests

4 Old tracks appear to have complete sounds now (not just sound of your own aircraft)

5 No additional crew animations yet (we'll have to wait for the 'gazillion' animations gathering dust!)

6 Maybe slight fps hit but early days not sure on that.

Looking forward to more improvements in this vein, big thumbs up. I'm watching England match but I want to get back to COD!!!

[DB605]

Did anyone noticed bug in E4 canopy? Sidewindow opens wrong direction now, forward :-P New sounds are fantastic, still need polishing of course but definitely way to go! New colours are great too. More testing later.

[katdogfizzow]

A huge step in the right direction fellas..applause!

[von Pilsner]

I was playing 'Dogfight - Even' mission last night and played it today (post-patch) and I'm getting a performance hit... 8-10 fps less and more micro stutters when flying low.

EDIT: cleared cache and defragged game directory and fps drop/stutter remains.

I'm still getting blocky water :D (nVidia 430 GPU) other than that it all looks great, I assume performance will probably increase over time as code is optimized.

http://bs.beckament.net/files_pub/FlightSim/IL2CloD/waterblocks.png

[JG5_emil]

Ok first patch thoughts.

1) Terrain colour is a lot better.
2) Shore line looks much much better
3) Sounds are are massive improvement, though not tested everything yet.
4) FPS took at hit, pre patch on Blackdeath trk, with everything maxed out at 1920X1200 I would average 57FPS, now Im at 47FPS so quite a drop.
5) Tree shadows still flickering but dont seem as bad
6) Still no FSAA???

Not as bad a hit as you but yes I got quite a hit as well.

Amazing sounds and graphics though.

Very impressed with the patch so far good job Luthier and CO.

[Thr0tt]

omg a performance hit to something that runs single digit fps anyways, I think i'll wait for a fps fix.

[Richie]

Fuel load out in single player is still broken.
Flickering shadows is actually a little worse, when I flew an SP mission.

Stuttering is still there but only when flying low.
Channel colour is a lot better.

....and did I say that the sound is good.... its a lot better.:grin:

AI.... is still poor.

E4 turns like a spit!! But being a blue pilot im not complaing!! :grin:


oh Fraps works again!!

E3 seemed like a dog compared to the IL-2 E3

[Welshman]

im not too keen on the way its switches from idle to revving on the spit , the guns seem a little weak sounding now too or maybe thats just me ..

noticed we've lost the clicks we used to get when using switches and toggles in the cockpit , i liked thoughs as it let you know you've done it .

i too noticed a performance hit , time for an upgrade on the gfx front i think , my 4890s are pushing there luck now , specially as xfire isnt working right yet .

[Steuben]

Hm iam waiting for the new ATI Cards in 28nm! Hopefully they come end of this year!

BTW Multiplayer COOP still not working! Will this ever be fixed`?

Noticed a performance hit to!

But still amazing sounds and graphics! Iam happy!

[JG14_Jagr]

Make sure you check all your graphics settings when checking fps comparisons.

[arthursmedley]

Sounds 100% but graphics? Hmmm....a step backward I think and a definite performance hit.

[Vengeanze]

New patch robbed me of 5 fps too.
Gonna reinstall and see what happens. :(

[JG52Uther]

109 sounds are brilliant, and the toned down ground looks much more like England.

[von Pilsner]

Make sure you check all your graphics settings when checking fps comparisons.

Same settings I was using last night.

[Strike]

WOW! MUCH better sounds! Everything from bullet hits to explosions and VERY defined engine sounds! Even noticed that an engine fuel line secondary fire erupted on my 110 and started burning up the wing with it! Really nice! New skidding on the ground is awesome!

110 Canopy won't close bug - FIXED!

New tracers - AWESOME

New colours, smoke and fire effects - WICKED!


I less-than-three IL-2:ClOD!

btw less-than-three is <3

[Le0ne]

Tis is great thank you for your work :grin:

[Kupsised]

Any chance anyone could post a short vid of the new sounds + sights (especially the Merlins)?

My PC's gone to pot and is at the menders and probably won't be out until the end of the week and I'm desperate to know what I'm missing!

[AARPRazorbacks]

CLoD team, I have tested this patch and was amazed.

I think the price of this sim just went up.

It's that good guys. IMHO

[Wandalen]

Here is a English beta download link i made if someone should need it :cool:

>> http://www.norwegian-server.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1200.last

[skouras]

new blood effects
the E4 is awesome
the planes fly better more responsive

the game looks beatifull and awesome
when you look the sun the whole screen changes with the new effect---wow
some fps hits but very playable [didn't change my settings]
also the stutters exists only in low flying and not that much as before
when you bail out you still hear the sound of the cockpit sometimes
the settings and loads in singlplayer still the same
you cannot load them or change them or save them
antiallising the same
the new sounds is very realistic
excellent job
the AI still the same maybe a little of change
comms works--[more added]

[Kubiszko]

Spit sound is crap like hell,i cant hear my guns,its another fake.

[kristorf]

Not tested yet but many thanks for the work peeps.

[r0bc]

Cheers for the heads up tree, did you test SLI? I guess with no FSAA there is no fix for SLI/Crossfire.

I didn't install patch yet, any word on this?

[Bloblast]

First impression:

New colour is better, especially land, sea, and shore line. Looks more like Europe now.

Great engine sounds, absolutely great. Better visible tracers, bullet impact, smoke and fire.

Better AI no more crashes during landing. AI now fly to their home base and land!

[Euphotic]

This patch is amazing so far, feel like a new game on many levels, for steams user who can't start up the game after putting the beta patch files in their folders, just don't use your steam shortcuts or desktop one, go directly in the CoD folder and use the game launcher.

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Here is a English beta download link i made if someone should need it :cool:

>> http://www.norwegian-server.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1200.last

thankyou

[Nicolo]

Firstly, thanks for keep working in the sim, I'm sure it will get better and better.
About the beta patch:
- new engine sounds are great, so are the guns;
- in the cockpit, we now have sounds for the magnetos, but lost sounds for fuel cock and lights, haven't tested more in this matter;
- when starting engine, I'm getting the dust from the ground coming through the plane structure to inside the cockpit, in my rudder pedals (I've seen this only in the hurricane);
- the colors need more adjustmens, the other tread about this topic has some nice critics. http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?p=330087#post330087
- when looking at the sun, it doesn't seem to shine, but puts a white fade all over the screen, this looks terrible;
- the new shorelines are a great improvement!
I'm new to the sim comunity and just grateful to have this game, any more work the dev team is doing is much welcome. Thanks guys, keep it up.

[Gollum]

Very excited to try this when I get home however reports of an FPS hit are not to my liking especially when I assumed the color algarithm changes were due to performance issues so I was expecting a huge increase in optimization. It's beta though so maybe it will improve.

Hoping for the best..

Gollum;-)

[Tonyhippo]

Off my drive now , I give in.

Hippo

[GOZR]

CrossFire and SLI ?

[mcler002]

i only just downloaded, installed and fired up an me109 for 5 min...

ITS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm in love all over again!

[Meusli]

Off my drive now , I give in.

Hippo

Why, is it worse for you in fps or can you not get it to work?

[Bokononist]

Do us a favour guys, don't shut down your p2p as soon as it's finished......please

I'm down the pub now, but I've left the patch seeding, tried to install according to Blackdogs instructions but it hasn't 'taken', any ideas why?

[jayrc]

love the sounds, graphics look much better, feels like a new game, my only request is that we get antialiasing working next as it's hard too see enemy airplanes.

thank you very much Luthier and team, great job:grin:

[Cpt_Farrel]

IMHO Everything is better now, specially the sounds, the only drawback in my view is the tropical haze that is back, too yellow and too heavy. Lots of steps forward and only one step back - good enough for me! :)

[ATAG_Keller]

Is anyone else getting a very loud very hi pitched scraping sound? It's so loud that I can't hear the engine. Giving me a headache.

[ClearDark]

Downloading patch - 15mins.
Installing patch - 3mins.
Firing up the sim, flying the E4 and hearing the plane in fly by view with full speakers on - Priceless

The ground looks so much better now too...It was worth the wait in my book. Huge step forward!

[SEE]

Thanks Luhier and Team. Graphics much nicer, terrain a liitle washed out maybe but far better in every other aspect.

Shorelines, allied canopy tint and Sea - significant improvements.

I don't measure FPS so my judgement of performance is based on gameplay and no noticeable losses or problems with this patch.

Sighting distant ac seems to be more difficult but the rendering is much cleaner.

Very happy with this one!

[GOZR]

-Shake head displacement is still a bit too much up and down. In RL the head of the pilot is a fantastic vibrations reducer.. keep in mind this.
-Props are weird

Will try later i just fired up CloD for 15 seconds .. I'm hoping it will get better because as for now i'm not quite happy.. yet..

Great to see you guys are working on it.. :) efforts will pay.

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

As with most on here,it's like a new sim now and much better,this is what I personally was expecting and now I've got it,thanks very much Luthier,top job.

The ground colouring/lighting is just fantastic and I had to make several emergency climbs this evening as I found I was not concentrating on flying but just staring at the ground!

Sea and shoreline textures and colours are now perfect too,this is such a big step forward.

Your team has certainly done us proud Luthier,the sounds now are absolutley beautiful.The only change I would make,would be to turn up the internal and external Browning machine guns sounds,I find them a little too quiet,but I guess that's a personal preference,overall I'm really impressed and I'm now sure we will see a few more guys online this week.;-)

[slm]

The immersion improvement of the new sounds make this a new game! Especially flyby sounds are just great!

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

fantastic improvement. sounds are really good now,the sea looks fabulous,land is much better.apart from heavy clouds its running amazingly smoothly,it was good before but its almost like its on steroids now, well done,please fix the AA is about all i can think of for now.
thanks

[Raggz]

Any radio commands improvement?

oh, thanks to Luthier for including us in the beta :)

[SlapStik]

+1 and then some.... thanks team!

[Mad G]

Thanks Luthier and team, nice overall improvement. Sounds are the way to go as terrain as well, however a fps hit and some stutters are bugging these niceties. Hope will be fixed with the official release.

Best to all,

[ingsoc84]

Do not forget to defrag Steam\CloD directory after installation or performance can degrade. The patch is big and creates many fragmented files while installing that can result in stutters.


Bit of a noob at defragging an actual game, but can you walk those of us like me through how this is done? much appreiciated, want to try the patch, but absent the issues it will create if I dont follow your instructions, thansk

[Winger]

So far i love the patch. I would love to have a little mor bass.
Also i seem to get mor launcher crashes now since the patch. Pre patch i had launcher crashes VERY seldom.

Winger

[fireflyerz]

Hmmm . childish.....pah.

[Fansadox]

thank you for the update ! but please please for the love of god fix Anti aliasing... its such a gamebreaker for me atm :(

[jcenzano]

SLI, plz.. SLI...

thanks for the rest

[ingsoc84]

debating what to do, install, not install. givent he fps hits...just not sure. but leaning towards waiting for the beta to become official...its a hard choice....would love to see some videos of the new stuff though....my fps is very playable as it is, just afraid if I get a 10 fps hit, it might not be so playable...I realize this is a continuing work in progress..

[Pato Salvaje]

debating what to do, install, not install. givent he fps hits...just not sure. but leaning towards waiting for the beta to become official...its a hard choice....would love to see some videos of the new stuff though....my fps is very playable as it is, just afraid if I get a 10 fps hit, it might not be so playable...I realize this is a continuing work in progress..

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=19455&page=113

[=XIII=Shea]

Big improvement,well done,sounds are brill and ground textures,but i still am getting micro stutters,and when taking off and landing the dust slows down my computer like crazy,anyone else have this prob?:confused:

[jimmythedeath]

ok Well i love this game here is my 2cent. 1 i was too hit by this fps thing it really hits hard on the 3rd level of zoomed in. other than that it feels soooooomuch smoother. 2nd I fixed my FPS hits and now the game runs like Butter. I use a SSD drive and do that whole memory drive with the bob files in an image and i load in the BOB parts that way, now when i do this OOOOOHHHH man we are talking like hot dripping butter off some steaming gold flapjacks. LOL muhahaha


Jimmy OUT!!!

Thank you so much BOB Team great update sure there will be a few more but its getting there.
P.S. I do not like the new way to select sides now u cant see how many are vr's and this is a Hugh problem when people are joining pub servers and there be no auto balance running witch suck any way. so don't do that in less its an option. any hoo my 2 cents,

[JG1_Luckystrike]

"Big improvement,well done,sounds are brill and ground textures,but i still am getting micro stutters,and when taking off and landing the dust slows down my computer like crazy,anyone else have this prob?"


same here

We had the same problem in il2 1946.

[/\/achtJaeger110]

They absolutely greatly improved everything.. Merlin and DB sound like heaven. Thank you!!
But the gun sounds... they are 100% worse if you ask me. Now the MGs sound like nothing, no feeling for the violence of the things at all. Or is this realistic?:confused:
And I think even in a closed cockpit with a engine in front of you the guns would be much louder.:cool:
I want the old gun sounds back!! The 109's MG17 were perfect...

[O_Smiladon]

Thanks team,

I have not gone beta test and will wait for public release.

Hopeing for the FPS to be sortted and no stutters anywhere. for me that kills it.

As for evreything else good news, what about SDK for map making ? was that due in this patch(I could be worng)

So please guys can you look into stutters low down.

Thanks for all your effort thus far

O_Smiladon ;)

[Raggz]

They absolutely greatly improved everything.. Merlin and DB sound like heaven. Thank you!!
But the gun sounds... they are 100% worse if you ask me. Now the MGs sound like nothing, no feeling for the violence of the things at all. Or is this realistic?:confused:
And I think even in a closed cockpit with a engine in front of you the guns would be much louder.:cool:
I want the old gun sounds back!! The 109's MG17 were perfect...

I believe that's realistic. Engine sound kills the MG sounds drastically in real life.

[FlushMeister]

Freakin PERFECT!! love how it turned out don't change a thing!!

[Gollum]

ok Well i love this game here is my 2cent. 1 i was too hit by this fps thing it really hits hard on the 3rd level of zoomed in. other than that it feels soooooomuch smoother. 2nd I fixed my FPS hits and now the game runs like Butter. I use a SSD drive and do that whole memory drive with the bob files in an image and i load in the BOB parts that way, now when i do this OOOOOHHHH man we are talking like hot dripping butter off some steaming gold flapjacks. LOL muhahaha


Jimmy OUT!!!

Thank you so much BOB Team great update sure there will be a few more but its getting there.
P.S. I do not like the new way to select sides now u cant see how many are vr's and this is a Hugh problem when people are joining pub servers and there be no auto balance running witch suck any way. so don't do that in less its an option. any hoo my 2 cents,

Hey Jimmy,
I too have SSD drives. 2 of them raided. But what is this image file you speak of. Is it just how it is with the SSD drives or do I have to do something? Shed a little lite when you can brother.. I too like flap jacks..

-Gollum:cool:

[Bewolf]

I believe that's realistic. Engine sound kills the MG sounds drastically in real life.

Agreed. Many People ignore how incredible "loud" those engines back then were. Lots of the gun sounds is eaten by that. And I consider the new sounds very very fitting to that, as only the higher frequencies manage to penetrate that massive bass box in front of the pilot.

Extrmely cool patch, the whole game looks much more solid, much more "integrated". I got those FPS hits, too, but maaaan, I can live with that for now given the other improvements.

Thanks!

[Tavingon]

The cannon shell tracers really lag me out now man

[Kurfürst]

Got mixed feelings. Patch and sounds definietely have potential. Got lag issues back with patch, probable result of memory handling.. over London seem to look for cache or something a lot, I get good FPS for a second, then it stops, good fps, stops again etc.

So GPU power is there to run it, it just can't seem to load it nicely.

E-4 cocpit is very buggy. Left side window slides forward (!!) instead of backward, and you can't click on the little plastic handle to open it (probably kept placing of "mouse active zone" from E-3).

Right hand side window does not open at all, neither does top window, even if they should.

I believe that top window also misses graphics for small plastic handle grip (like side windows), though I could not find accurate picture of it for comparison, I am pretty sure there was something the pilot could grab to open it..

You still cannot actuate flaps and elevator trim wheels at the same time, even if it was designed to be operated at same time, so pilot can compensate for trim change when using flaps.

Gunsight dimmer does not work on E-4 (its simple transparent glass)

BTW - I don't think Wehrmacht was enviroment conscious, so can we please get the Revi circle at full strenght lightining by default please? Its borin

FM (performance) problem is still there, E-4 cannot hit official specs at low altitude at full power.
http://www.kurfurst.org/Performance_tests/109E_Baubeschreibung/109E3_Baubeschreibung.html

Did not have time for further tests on any plane. Overall promosing, but please fix above problems.

[smink1701]

Just tried and must say GREAT effort.

Here's my one (for now) gripe. MGs in the Brit planes need to be better. Don't care if this is realistic (whatever that means flying a computer), it needs to make you feel like your spitting lead, not spitballs. My ideal would be Jafa but with the volume turned down 25%. I'm done...let the hating begin;)

[Meusli]

I am still getting unplayable frame rates which I put down to my GPU. So while it looks great the FPS are all over the place even with reduced settings. Here's hoping for a Crossfire fix next.

[VO101_Tom]

E-4 cocpit is very buggy...

Ó fákk, ugyanazeket írtam le a bugos topikba. Előbb körbe kellene olvasnom a témákat, aztán írkálni :grin:

[CharveL]

- Sounds much better
- landscape WAY better!

Now we need these things fixed:

- FFB constantly cutting out while flying then suddenly coming back on. Seems to happen when a minimum value is hit the FFB just turns off or times out, leaving the 'wet noodle' until some quick control input reminds it to turn on again. IL2 didn't have this problem.

- Flickering shadows. Please, this immersion killer has got to go - I'm sure it's not an easy fix but at least give us some more video options to choose which shadows we would like to keep, and be able to turn off others that we can live without for framerate sake.

-There was something satisfying about being able to hear the "thunk" of bullets off other planes. Yes, I know the engine is in front of you but there is always a balance between fun and realism even in a sim. Pre-patch it was probably too loud but now I'm just saying maybe it's too soft so let's be able to enjoy some of these small but satisfying things within reason. I can live with the softer gun sounds but again I'd bet you can feel them through the seat of your pants enough to make them seem 'louder'. Perhaps more bass in the gun sounds because of the occlusion through the plane.

-Smoke effects (including clouds) need tuning. They are hogging FPS unnecessarily, at least up close. Maybe it's the downside of being volumetric but perhaps there's room for performance tweaking there.

Just a few quick things in my opinion that could use work. Thanks for your efforts, things seem to really be shaping up.

[Blackdog_kt]

Tested some of the stuff mentioned in the changelog and they work.

Ground handling physics: The Blenheim can now take off without swinging so violently to the right. Advance throttles to +1.5 boost and as soon as you got some speed to have some airflow over the rudder you can advance them the rest of the way, keeping it lined up with with rudder.

It still needs a bit of differential braking at the start of the run but nothing like it used to be when we had to constantly tap the brakes, kill our airspeed prolonging the roll and blowing the engines.

Bombsights: I only tested the Blenheim since i had already started with that one. It works fine now. I was at 8000ft and went for one of the airfields near Calais.

Setting boost at +1 to +1.5 psi gave me about 180mph indicated. Manual says that 200mph IAS at 8000ft is 225mph TAS, i was doing 20mph less IAS so i just set reduced TAS by a similar amount and set it to 200mph in the bombsight. I think there is some wind in the stock quick mission because my bombs drifted somewhat to the left, but other than that i hit the target just fine. If i had some wingmen with me we would have properly carpet bombed the place.


In terms of performance, i got a couple of artifacts in the cockpit during red out and the elongated "needles" of land protruding into the sea are still there some times, but i'm running older drives so that might be it (forgot to update them and when i remembered it today i was in too much of a hurry to fly the new patch :-P).

I don't measure my FPS but i didn't feel any noticeable hit. It might be a bit lower overall but it certainly feels much smoother and more consistent now, which is something i prefer anyway: i'd rather have a constant 40FPS with less stutters than 45 FPS with stutters.

In any case, it feels much smoother to me and i also raised the trees amount a notch without any noticeable effect on performance, not to mention it sounds and looks very good too.



Suggestions: If possible, a separate selection field in the graphics options for the player's aircraft textures in the future.

I'm running texture size at medium and that works well for the landscape and other units, but tends to blur a lot some parts of the cockpit in some aircraft or other parts of the model when viewing them from within the cockpit (external views still look fine, it's some of the cockpit views that get blurry and not all of them either).

Examples are the wing markings on the 109s that denote the step/no step zones for the ground crews and the cockpits in bombers, especially gunsights and bombsights.

Definitely a big step in the right direction. What i really would like to see for the next patch is focusing on the more gameplay-oriented features, like streamlining the control logic for all aircraft, correcting some non-working instruments and finalizing the radio commands.

By the way, the placeholder list of commands is impressive. I had a bit of fumbling around and if you make them work for the next patch it will be awesome. Among others, there are commands to have your crewmen:

report altitude (useful during landing)

report airspeed (useful during takeoff)

handle flaps/landing gear

tell the gunners to hold fire (if you want to sneak in without giving your position away due to tracers)

etc.

I'm much more excited about these features and now that it seems the graphics and sounds are up to a standard considered acceptable by most (baring the final AA and SLI/Xfire optimisations), i hope that you will have some time to address the actual gameplay side of things: the aircraft look and sound terrific now, let's start flying them and having them do what they were supposed to do :-P

Thanks for your continued efforts, i'm definitely looking forward to what you have in store next ;-)

[Bo_Nidle]

Well I manually installed the patch and now the game will not launch at all! Tried to launch from the in file launcher without Steam but it still demands the spawn of Satan known as Steam be activated.

Frankly my patience with this POS has now been exhausted. Why praise is being heaped upon developers for releasing a patch that still fails to bring the product up to the standard it should have been on release, and drops the already appalling frame rate still further, mystifies me.

I will check back in 12 months or so to see if anything has really improved. But I'm only doing that in the vain attempt to not totally lose the £50 I was conned out of to begin with. That's the only thing saving it from being binned.

Fifty quid! I must have been nuts!!

[trumps]

You whine like a little beech! Beta patch, I would bet that you have screwed up the installation of it! I don't hear many others having too many problems.

Craig

[jimmythedeath]

Hey Jimmy,
I too have SSD drives. 2 of them raided. But what is this image file you speak of. Is it just how it is with the SSD drives or do I have to do something? Shed a little lite when you can brother.. I too like flap jacks..

-Gollum:cool:


Yes my friend all thoes that want to know how to have hot BUTTER.

not to reinvent the wheel but Here u go.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20228&highlight=ssd+ram+drive

its very easy to do and if u have a file renamer like flex renamer it makes it real good Oh yea add all of the .SFS files these are the ones i left out Maps.SFS

just ran better with out t on there for some reason .

PM Me and we can hook on a TS if your having issues but i found it very easy step by step.

Jimmy oUT!!!

[Chivas]

Well I manually installed the patch and now the game will not launch at all! Tried to launch from the in file launcher without Steam but it still demands the spawn of Satan known as Steam be activated.

Frankly my patience with this POS has now been exhausted. Why praise is being heaped upon developers for releasing a patch that still fails to bring the product up to the standard it should have been on release, and drops the already appalling frame rate still further, mystifies me.

I will check back in 12 months or so to see if anything has really improved. But I'm only doing that in the vain attempt to not totally lose the £50 I was conned out of to begin with. That's the only thing saving it from being binned.

Fifty quid! I must have been nuts!!

Before installing the zip file. Right click and select properties, Click on Unblock so that all the files are downloaded. This should install all the files required. Windows 7 and Vista seem to have a problem with zips. Or you can wait for the beta to finish and Steam gets the new patch download from the devs, usually by the end of the week.

[ATAG_Septic]

I am still getting unplayable frame rates which I put down to my GPU. So while it looks great the FPS are all over the place even with reduced settings. Here's hoping for a Crossfire fix next.

Crossfire seems to work fine here, both GPUs and memory reported as getting equal use, temps seem to confirm this.


XFX 5790BE (at 900Mhz core, 1200Mhz memory) 11.8
i7930@ 4000
6gb r/w memory
win 7 64

[evilerny]

I will be seeding the torrent as long as I can. There were 0 people seeding when I downloaded. Unfortunately, I have Steam and I can't even use the patch... :(

[SEE]

When I first booted up it took much longer to load to the point where I thought there was an error. Load times have reduced though longer than before - if you deleted the cache folder it may be worth trying again and give it a few minutes.

[ATAG_Septic]

I will be seeding the torrent as long as I can. There were 0 people seeding when I downloaded. Unfortunately, I have Steam and I can't even use the patch... :(

It's no problem to download the patch via the direct link rather than torrent. Just extract to CoD folder, works fine with Steam here, just don't validate files in Steam as this puts it back to last version :)

[evilerny]

Awesome, I've had problems with patches in other games when not downloaded through steam. Good to hear it works. Also, there were plenty of people seeding, my uTorrent was just moving slower then frozen snot. :)

[ATAG_Keller]

Can you guys tell me if something is wrong with the sound here? Am I crazy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mVxXSrTGf4

[Skoshi Tiger]

Can't wait till I can get home and download the patch!


* Added three new multiplayer maps: Steppe (medium), Fields (small), and Scimitar (small);


Has anyone tried out the Steppe map yet? With my imperfect knowledge of Eurasian topology wouldn't the nearest Steppes be over near Russia? Maybe a hint for the next Theatre??????

Cheers!

[justme262]

I am astonished! I didn't expect such a great improvement :-D
Game looks so much better on my rig. Sounds so much better too

Thanks for a great patch and a really great game.
I'll never doubt you guys again...

[Frequent_Flyer]

Can't wait till I can get home and download the patch!


* Added three new multiplayer maps: Steppe (medium), Fields (small), and Scimitar (small);


Has anyone tried out the Steppe map yet? With my imperfect knowledge of Eurasian topology wouldn't the nearest Steppes be over near Russia? Maybe a hint for the next Theatre??????

Cheers!


If memory serves, it has been established " the battle for Moscow " will be the first " add on".

[NedLynch]

Awesome work guys, really, really nice.

I do have one question though, sorry if it has been asked before.
What is the proper procedure once the patch goes live?
Just let steam update or "uninstall" the beta by validating via steam before the patch goes live?
Also right now I have steam cloud disabled, but automatic updates enabled, is this good or not?
Thanks for any answers in advance.

[VO101_Tom]

Awesome work guys, really, really nice.

I do have one question though, sorry if it has been asked before.
What is the proper procedure once the patch goes live?
Just let steam update or "uninstall" the beta by validating via steam before the patch goes live?
Also right now I have steam cloud disabled, but automatic updates enabled, is this good or not?
Thanks for any answers in advance.

If u click on the "Verify integrity of game cache" menu (under steam-game-properties-local files), it will restore the last official patch version. No need any other uninstall.

The auto update is good. If the beta become official, it will update the game (the beta patch version number is lower, than official patch).

[NedLynch]

Great, thanks for the reply :grin:.

[baronWastelan]

Seeing some subtle improvements, for the better, in this beta patch. Kristorf will be glad to learn the Spitfire visuals that was changed in the previous official patch has been changed again and the custom skins no longer look as though they've been worked over with a belt sander. FPS is very good, flew low at 300 mph over Dover and had steady 30 FPS all the way across. Only tried a couple dog fights, but haven't seen any AI doing the famous F-16 rolls yet...

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d63/baronWastelan/patch0906.jpg

[nearmiss]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lmsMSQDVPM

[GOZR]

The haze is much more realistic !! I feel better...

[No145_Hatter]

Brilliant! Really enjoyed flying about looking and listening this evening!

[Hunden]

Before installing the zip file. Right click and select properties, Click on Unblock so that all the files are downloaded. This should install all the files required. Windows 7 and Vista seem to have a problem with zips. Or you can wait for the beta to finish and Steam gets the new patch download from the devs, usually by the end of the week.

First I have to say thank you for the awesome job devs and thanks for the tip on the unblock. By chance does anyone know how to keep the outer 2 screens on a 3 screen setup from looking stretched out? thanx in advance. PS I'm a happy camper now.:)

[Gamekeeper]

By chance does anyone know how to keep the outer 2 screens on a 3 screen setup from looking stretched out? thanx in advance. PS I'm a happy camper now.:)

Probably better off starting a new thread as replies may be missed in a patch release topic. But here's an article on Widescreen (eyefinity) settings (http://airwarfare.com/sow/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=204:widescreen-settings-eyefinitysurround&catid=106:video-settings&Itemid=178) that may help

[Hunden]

Probably better off starting a new thread as replies may be missed in a patch release topic. But here's an article on Widescreen (eyefinity) settings (http://airwarfare.com/sow/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=204:widescreen-settings-eyefinitysurround&catid=106:video-settings&Itemid=178) that may help

Thanx for the answer:)

[ataribaby]

Excelent, just tried beta and totaly love new GFX and sound. So not working AI will be next step? Wingmans not follow me after takeoff. Totaly chaotic and nonfuncional radio comms (i see changed again in this beta) Porked trim, now it trims with control stick and pedals offset instead use trim surfaces and trim wheels in cockpit (worked in early version).

[David198502]

i really like the new GFX.way better than before.maybe the blue haze is a bit too pronounced in my opinion, but its definitely better then pre patch.what i really like is that the landscape now really looks sunlit and warm.and also when not looking into direct sun, the effect of beeing blinded by it is way improved.

[Ataros]

I am still getting unplayable frame rates which I put down to my GPU. So while it looks great the FPS are all over the place even with reduced settings. Here's hoping for a Crossfire fix next.

Several reports say X-fire is improved in this patch.

[Helrza]

Thanks for the patch guys :D

[alexmdv]

Hello all!
My short video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD7ZIXhd8P8

[Icebear]

Great video alexmdv. It says more than thousand words....:(

[Blackdog_kt]

Can you guys tell me if something is wrong with the sound here? Am I crazy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mVxXSrTGf4

It's just like it's supposed to be. At low RPM you only get the idling sound of the engine. When you advance the throttle the supercharger also picks up RPM and that is a turbine of sorts, so you get that high pitched whine sound. As your speed increases you also reach a point where the sound of the propeller and airflow partially obscures the engine sound, but that is not part of your video because it happens at somewhat high speeds (have a nice dive until you reach 500-600km/h or so and you'll hear it ;-) )

I think that they got the 109 sound spot on, the DB601 engine is well known for its supercharger whine.

In other words, it might take you some time getting used to it but there's nothing wrong with your installation or sound card. ;-)

[zxwings]

So much haze that the sky is a little bit dirty.

[Codex]

Can I get some clarification from anyone who flies regularly?

To me the beta colours seem to be off, it looks too washed out. In alexmdv's video I think the non beta colours are more realistic.

http://www.mhpstudios.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Cuba/UK_Skies.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/14/article-1311804-0B2C0714000005DC-465_964x584.jpg

http://i.thelocalpeople.co.uk/275655/Article/images/5880717/1716452.JPG
(http://i.thelocalpeople.co.uk/275655/Article/images/5880717/1716452.JPG)

[chiefrr73]

Thank you very much for this betapatch!
I didn t install the patch and I m not playing this game by now, I m playing IL2 1946 and still having a lot of fun with it. I m reading this forum here since it was oppenend years ago and was following development since Storm of war was first announced and my expectations of this game were very high, like many people here. When CoD was released i bought it and was very dissapointed and put it away (didn t play it since then).
Today i looked a video of the new patch and I m very exited, the colours look very nice and the sound is emazing, I m totaly surprised! Bravo bravo bravo devteam, applause!! I can clearly see where this game is going. Just emagine this game in one year... I think its gonna be a lot of fun and immersive, and not to think the years to come. I can understand that some people here are pist off, because the game was/is not in that shape it should be as it was released and they have the right to speak out their unhappiness, but i have to say that some people will never be satisfied, as it is obviously here in this and other forums. Me for my part will give this game time to mature, because I can see it is going in the right direction, in my opinion. Just my 2 cents. Have fun with the new patch people ;-)

[Meusli]

Several reports say X-fire is improved in this patch.


Well that's strange then, what do you think would be causing me to suddenly drop frames to the low single digits?

[335th_GRAthos]

Hello all!
My short video:




Thank you Alex, great work it helps a lot to see the difference!



I must admit, I feel like banging my head on the wall when I realise that we sacrificed the fantastic ground graphics in order to have the hazy ones... but anyway.

~S~

[klem]

Can I get some clarification from anyone who flies regularly?

To me the beta colours seem to be off, it looks too washed out. In alexmdv's video I think the non beta colours are more realistic.

http://www.mhpstudios.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Cuba/UK_Skies.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/14/article-1311804-0B2C0714000005DC-465_964x584.jpg

http://i.thelocalpeople.co.uk/275655/Article/images/5880717/1716452.JPG
(http://i.thelocalpeople.co.uk/275655/Article/images/5880717/1716452.JPG)

I think you are correct up to a point. The Patch haze is too strong at short range. Look at the background of your second pictiure, it is hazy to a similar extent to the Patch, but perhaps too blue, whereas the foreground has no haze.

[LcSummers]

Thanks Luthier!

Sound is amazing! Its a huge lap what was and what is now:-P

Have to test it little more but overall i am glad to have this patch. Its more life in it.

S!

[No601_Swallow]

Thank you Alex, great work it helps a lot to see the difference!



I must admit, I feel like banging my head on the wall when I realise that we sacrificed the fantastic ground graphics in order to have the hazy ones... but anyway.

~S~

Alex's video is fantastic - it takes a little of the subjectivity out of the comparison.

Personally I very much prefer the more muted and hazy colours of the beta patch. The overall feel chimes much more with what I expect (and know!) the British countryside to look like.

Interestingly, though, I think the video show up some of the subtleties. I think in the shots of very close externals (the hurri on the ground, the AA shooting) the shadows and "dark" areas are darker in the beta. Graphics dudes can correct me.

But I think those who think there was just a "wash" applied to the whole screen are wrong!

Thus: tweaking would seem to be possible!

[MACADEMIC]

Great video Alexmvd!

I like the toned down ground colours, however I like the airplanes better before the Beta patch - they look too dull now.

MAC

[SNAFU]

May I remind you that you can not compare colors and haze in photographs with what you see with your own eyes. Just a simple polarization filter in front of the lense can make a huge difference, without even touching a software tool. ;) You can actually see distant clouds through a polarization filter, which would just fade into the general haze without the filter infront of your camera.
In my opinion are the new colors and the haze far better than before, but I just had short test.

[Icebear]

Great video Alexmvd!

I like the toned down ground colours, however I like the airplanes better before the Beta patch - they look too dull now.

MAC

Thats exactly what I thought. I also prefer the new beta ground colours, but the planes look more or less like the old IL2 ones now. Too bad.....:(

[Phazon]

I just read on the Sukhoi.ru forum that Luthier said the improved rendering code (which isn't fully included in this beta patch) will not only bring performance gains, but will bring with it proper FSAA and the possibility to enable tree collisions as well. :)

[Kankkis]

I just read on the Sukhoi.ru forum that Luthier said the improved rendering code (which isn't fully included in this beta patch) will not only bring performance gains, but will bring with it proper FSAA and the possibility to enable tree collisions as well. :)

Link please :)

[JG52Krupi]

Link please :)

This or your a big fat liar ;)

[Ataros]

Anyone still wants more good news from the devs?

Read this post in FMB section Custom ingame menus introduced http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=25941

This engine rocks!

BTW community needs more C# scripters to make some basic scripts for everyone.

[rakinroll]

Thank you Luthier.

[Phazon]

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D71595&usg=ALkJrhhfV-6nQGQjGsWxeoE7iZjpo0d1XA

Look at Post #14.

Luthier's post in response to someone asking about the FSAA situation:

Smoothing is still the same, obscheprotseduralnym cheap software that has been in the past.

Global perelopachennye change the graphics engine, which includes correct and FSAA, and a very large number of other changes, improvements, and the right technology, we wanted to finish this, are tightened. We decided not to wait for them, and give you a play with sound and with E4 and flowers and everything else.

Pretty obvious what's being said there, even if Google Translate turns it into Engrish. :P

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D71659%26p%3D1686451&usg=ALkJrhhsgwA8SVKvk_fHF7Rfe5KrNxhmiw#post1686451

Also, another response from the beta patch thread at Sukhoi.ru (post #3). This one is in regards to plans for the pilot animations:

Very planned, we have a new person to work out, entirely engaged in human figures. Jumping, injury, and etc - all have long been at work.

[JG52Krupi]

Wow thanks for the heads up Phazon :D

[Phazon]

Wow thanks for the heads up Phazon :D

It was too juicy to keep to myself. Ataros might be able to offer a better translation of what he said though. :)

[furbs]

Very good news indeed.

[David198502]

that is indeed good news.though i wonder where he stated that trees will be collidable?did i overread something?

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Luthier @ Sukhoi.ru
FSAA is still the same yet, a common cheap software one that has been in the past.

Global dramatic changes in the graphics engine, which includes correct FSAA, and a very large number of other changes, improvements, and the right technology, that we wanted to finish before this patch will take longer time. We decided not to wait for them, and give you possibility to play with sound and with E4 and colors and everything else.

Not word by word translation, just changed some untranslated words.

edit:
And on pilot bail-out animation:
Very planned, a new person joined our team, who is entirely engaged with humans. Bailing out, injury, and etc - all have long been at work.

[Kupsised]

Can anyone confirm if the new sound engine means we have external sounds in Multiplayer now (without having to have trees turned off)?

My PC is at the menders for a week so I don't get to find out for my self.

[Ze-Jamz]

Sounds interesting indeed..

[bw_wolverine]

Can anyone confirm if the new sound engine means we have external sounds in Multiplayer now (without having to have trees turned off)?

My PC is at the menders for a week so I don't get to find out for my self.

I tested last night and flew with medium trees on the ATAG server with no sound issues (except for the really loud wind sound at higher speeds and the rattling airframe when 300mph and above :P )

So maybe this is fixed. Fingers crossed.

[Tree_UK]

Can anyone confirm if the new sound engine means we have external sounds in Multiplayer now (without having to have trees turned off)?

My PC is at the menders for a week so I don't get to find out for my self.

Yes flew last night for a good few hours with no sound loss or sound stuttering :-D

[skouras]

same here
i start up my 109
and one guy performs a close low flyby with the E4
WHAT A SOUND

[=XIII=Shea]

Tracers are alot better for the 109,s please change the tracers for the spit and the hurricane

[Jotaele]

Doubled the distance at which the tracers can be seen.?
stalls sounds?!! new colors!!!
GREAT!!! THX!!! bombsight autoleveling!! those are really goods news!!
I hope all the aspects of the game being reworked in the time.

[Rextar]

IMO the muzzle flashes look a bit "cartoonish".
Still cannot change ammo loadout in sp.

[Kankkis]

Did we get AA for next betapatch or next official patch? :confused:

[Winger]

Did we get AA for next betapatch or next official patch? :confused:

This is something i would REALLY love to see an official statement about soon too.
I mean comeon 1C its about time to tell us whats wrong with it?
Even if you gotta take your time. Just give us a heads up.


Winger

[LcSummers]

Just a question:

Are the Bf 110s instrument brownish or is it my GC? I think in the pre patch they were black.

Can somebody confirm that?

S!

[LcSummers]

Ó fákk, ugyanazeket írtam le a bugos topikba. Előbb körbe kellene olvasnom a témákat, aztán írkálni :grin:

nem baj inkább kétszer mint egyszer se. Jó néha magyar nyelvet is "látni"
bajtársok.

[skouras]

Just a question:

Are the Bf 110s instrument brownish or is it my GC? I think in the pre patch they were black.

Can somebody confirm that?

S!

you mean has red lights
yeap same problem