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Stealthy
08-17-2011, 05:40 AM
Does anybody know of a company that sells replicas of old warbirds? I think its very interesting, and I'm not implying I have the money, but I would sure love to look into it.

ATAG_Doc
08-17-2011, 06:29 AM
Does anybody know of a company that sells replicas of old warbirds? I think its very interesting, and I'm not implying I have the money, but I would sure love to look into it.

Yea there sure is.

http://www.flugwerk.de/html/page.php?GID=19&SID=4

and Spitfire

http://www.supermarineaircraft.com/About.htm (http://www.supermarineaircraft.com/)

Ze-Jamz
08-17-2011, 07:50 AM
Does anybody know of a company that sells replicas of old warbirds? I think its very interesting, and I'm not implying I have the money, but I would sure love to look into it.

Shouldnt your Name read 'Wealthy' instead? :rolleyes:

Ok.....carry on

Sternjaeger II
08-17-2011, 08:21 AM
Does anybody know of a company that sells replicas of old warbirds? I think its very interesting, and I'm not implying I have the money, but I would sure love to look into it.

As mentioned above Flugwerk would be the ideal choice, they soon will start making replica Mustangs as well (they already produce main components for it, like spars and fuselages).

In 2005 I visited the guys who built the Me262 replicas in Everett, WA (close to Seattle), and I remember them mentioning that they bought a batch of fuselages and scraps from Russia, mainly of Bf109s, and were thinking about making a series of Bf109F once they finished with the 262, but I dunno what happened with that project.

Apart for the costs, the real issue in having a 109 is the engine: DB605 are rarer and rarer to get hold of, and their TBO is normally very low (around 50hr or so). Needless to say their spares are even rarer, and whilst you can easily mill a valve for it, the crankshaft is so complicated it would cost a lot of money to redo one.

Needless to say we're talking about a machine that can be a bit tricky to land and take off, so yes, it would be cool but a tad high in terms of economic and piloting demands.

Flugwerk also produces FW190s, I would rather go for this one, but would make sure to put my hands on a dependable BMW engine first, not the cheap russian/chinese crap engines which already cost us the French FW190, which was a thing of beauty.

JG52Krupi
08-17-2011, 08:40 AM
Stern are you talking about the 190 that went in the drunk a few months back due to engine problems?

robtek
08-17-2011, 08:50 AM
Stern are you talking about the 190 that went in the drunk a few months back due to engine problems?

I bet he did, and iirc it was the prop which caused the ditch, not the engine which is pretty reliable, but hey, why miss the chance to slight our eastern fellows?

JG52Krupi
08-17-2011, 08:57 AM
I bet he did, and iirc it was the prop which caused the ditch, not the engine which is pretty reliable, but hey, why miss the chance to slight our eastern fellows?

Yes that's why you see a lot of the flugs 190 sporting 4 bladed props now and if he is talking about that 190 then he will be glad to hear that it's being restored to flying condition.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=17531

Hopefully White 1 the f8 will be flying soon and there are two d9s being worked on as well :mrgreen:

Sternjaeger II
08-17-2011, 08:57 AM
yep, it was that one. The engine had been running rough, but it was a prop governor failure (which is part of the engine) that caused the ditching : one of the prop blades feathered (!!!) and the pilot had no choice but to put her down in the water. He was actually brave enough not to bail out and try to do less damage as possible, great guy.

Sternjaeger II
08-17-2011, 09:04 AM
yeah that seemed the best solution, all in all the plane didn't sit in the water for too long, and the guys at Meier Motors know their stuff, I'm sure she'll be back better than before :-) I have to say that those 4 props though... ughh!

JG52Krupi
08-17-2011, 09:22 AM
yeah that seemed the best solution, all in all the plane didn't sit in the water for too long, and the guys at Meier Motors know their stuff, I'm sure she'll be back better than before :-) I have to say that those 4 props though... ughh!

I agree but...

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9267/fw190c.jpg

You wouldn't say no now would you :P

Sternjaeger II
08-17-2011, 09:54 AM
I agree but...

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9267/fw190c.jpg

You wouldn't say no now would you :P

erm no, of course not, but for every step towards that thing I'd be having a "crisis" in my pants..

katdogfizzow
08-17-2011, 12:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3I5-ToE7g0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfvQnlYB3IE&feature=player_embedded

Blackdog_kt
08-17-2011, 02:58 PM
I agree but...

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9267/fw190c.jpg

You wouldn't say no now would you :P

Isn't that the experimental 190C with the turbocharger?

JG52Krupi
08-17-2011, 03:32 PM
Isn't that the experimental 190C with the turbocharger?

Correct nice to see another 190 enthusiast.

skouras
08-17-2011, 07:12 PM
one of the interesting threads that i have read the past 1 month :-D

bongodriver
08-18-2011, 12:53 AM
Supermarineaircraft.com dont build authentic spits, they are 80% semi scale replicas with alloy horizontally opposed engines, if you want an authentic spit built you need to speak with a company called airframe assemblies based at sandown on the isle of Wight U.K.

Herbs107
08-18-2011, 01:45 AM
These guys supply a kit 1:1 size Spit, you have choice of Allison or Merlin donks to power it.

http://www.spitfireaircraftco.com/home.html

Sternjaeger II
08-18-2011, 08:34 AM
Spitfires and Spitfire restoration projects are still relatively common aircrafts, I don't see why one should get a full-size replica, if anything to avoid the certification ballsache..