strange skin behaviour

[David198502]

hey skin-experts!
im fiddling around with my first skin for COD.so far so good.i do it with gimp.
i wanted to see the results of my painting skills, so i opened cod and looked in plane option to see my skin.everything was as expected except the nose of the prop.i added a spiral on it, but it doesnt appeared in the menu(it was just pitch black).however i flew a quick mission with that skin, to see more of the details of my skin,and ingame, the spiral on the prop-nose suddenly showed up.
so i decided to land, to look at the skin when its not moving, so its easier to examine my artwork.so i turned off the engine and made a smooth landing.while approaching the runway, the prop decreasing is revolutions due to decreasing airspeed, i noticed that the spiral suddenly disappeared and turned into a black one.i tried it several times with different video settings to see if may be the resolution, texture or shading details are causing it, but even with everything maxed out i have this annoying effect.
sorry for my poor english but i add a picture of it that you guys know what im talking about.
http://www.google.at/imgres?imgurl=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/Svartmetall/Misc/Me-109Spinner.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wettringer-modellbauforum.de/forum/index.php%3Fpage%3DThread%26postID%3D151500&usg=__RAIfU3X6KVLBA2EwBlDJeKkjYxQ=&h=274&w=356&sz=15&hl=de&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=sCHZa_8w7e56lM:&tbnh=139&tbnw=180&ei=9lIkTo3VE433sgaO4927Ag&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSpirale%2BMesserschmitt%26hl%3Dde%26s a%3DX%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D930%26tbm%3Disch%26prmd %3Divns&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=329&page=1&ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=98&ty=99&biw=1280&bih=930

[Shado]

Hi David, Spinner spirals eh, nightmare :), some skins have two places for the spinner, one for when it's static and the other for when its spinning, thats probably why your seeing that effect one way to test it is from an outside view slow down your in-game time and watch it change.

And then there are the spinners that are split into thirds...ekk, anyway you could to with using the panel finder overlay jpeg to layer over your skin then you can find where it is, what aircraft are you skinning, a ME 109?

[David198502]

yes i try to paint the 109E1.
panel finder overlay?

[Shado]

Ah yes the panel finder........
Try this David, a fellow pilot VO101_Tom on here made this available.

In gimp just add this layer over your others, flatten the image and in game take a look at your skin, jot down the reference numbers or alt tab between the game and gimp and hopefully you you should be able to find where the prop parts are.
http://www.mediafire.com/?6r27fy6b1cj0npc

I suspect they are here although this ia E3 skin.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6u6draT78XE/TiRqKVEplGI/AAAAAAAAElw/uBGWabor90k/s800/Spinner.jpg

[David198502]

thx shado!you are really helping me!
you are right the rectangle down left is also for the prop nose,when its static.

now i only have to figure out,how i can make it look like a spiral.
when its moving, it looks the way i want it,as i have only pasted an image from the internet of an spiral above the yellow dot which you marked. very professional btw!

[Shado]

David, no problem, you want to start off something like this please excuse my rough drawing :)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OmfoBmgBsIc/TiSDlf59p9I/AAAAAAAAEmI/qLCWiUhfJ0c/s800/0-1.jpg

The Spinner is split into thirds, which gives you this.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ERVNx6eCe44/TiSFOYqTLfI/AAAAAAAAEmY/COij3Rw1PdU/2011-07-18_00001.jpg

[David198502]

hey shado!
i was trying exactly the same you are showing now with your second picture!
i guess i have to try a few times before it will look the way i want it to.

btw. how did you manage that your second "skin" also show the structure of the plane?like rivets and cockpit interior?
if i open the skins they all look like a plain painting without the drawing lines.meaning it looks exactly as the first skin you posted.

[Shado]

The panel lines are a combination of two layers, the coloured skin, which I have cleaned up, and another layer that makes up the panels, I put them both in Gimp/Photoshop with the coloured one on top and then change the opacity of the coloured one to approximatly 85% so that the panel lines on the layer underneath comes through.

[David198502]

and where do you get the panel layer from?

[VO101_Tom]

thx shado!you are really helping me!
you are right the rectangle down left is also for the prop nose,when its static.

now i only have to figure out,how i can make it look like a spiral.
when its moving, it looks the way i want it,as i have only pasted an image from the internet of an spiral above the yellow dot which you marked. very professional btw!


Hi.
I just suffered yesterday with the same :cool:: pic1 (http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO101_Tom/shot_20110719_203050_773.jpg) pic2 (http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO101_Tom/shot_20110719_203111_626.jpg)

It would be possible to make changes in a middle part, but very troublesome. For me that's enough :) Here is the layer, if you need it: cod_109_spiral (http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO101_Tom/COD_BF109_spiral.png)

Your other question, the panel layers. I downloaded it from here, but i dont see the 109 now :confused: : click (http://cliffsofdover.fr/skin2.php?recherche=defaut&trie=date)
Anyway, you can DL from here. here. (http://www.pumaszallas.hu/Private/VO101_Tom/E3_defaut.jpg)