Just How good is your PC?Windows 7 can tell you.

[AARPRazorbacks]

If you are using Windows 7 you can see just how good of a PC you have compared to other PC's.
And pin point your slow hardware.

The picture shows my PC and the lowest score is my HDD.

After I get the SSD installed this score should go up and speed up the PC for gaming.

I think it will Help run CLoD better then it is now.

To do this go to -Control Panel>All Controls Panels Items>Performance Information and tools.

I would say I have a High range PC.



Windows 7 features


Windows Experience Index rates your hardware.
Ever wonder how a PC you own—or want to buy—stacks up against others? The Windows Experience Index is one way to find out.

This feature, updated for Windows 7, rates the performance of key hardware components such as the CPU, disk drive, and graphics card. The PC is then given a score between 1.0 and 7.9.

When you're shopping for a new PC, the Windows Experience Index can help you find the model that suits your needs. Scoring a PC you already own can help pinpoint slower components worth upgrading. A PC with a score of 2 is typically sufficient for basic tasks like word processing or web browsing. Running the Aero desktop experience requires at least a 3, while graphics–intensive software frequently requires a 4 or higher.











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[AndyJWest]

Bullpoop!
http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae65/ajv00987k/WindowsExperienceIndex.jpg

My 2 GB Radeon 6970 scores 6.4, and a 1280 MB Nvidia 470 scores 7.8? I think not. It doesn't seem to take into account overclocking, or much else besides - it doesn't even seem to differentiate between 69xx series cards. I sincerely hope that nobody takes this seriously.

[AARPRazorbacks]

Thank for posting your results.

What HDD do you have?

[LT.INSTG8R]

As you can see by your 2 different results that is a VERY useless test of pc performance. Not to be taken seriously at all.

[jg27_mc]

Here is mine:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/3770/windows7performance.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/windows7performance.jpg/)

Check my signature for full hardware specs and overclock.

Cheers.

[AARPRazorbacks]

My base score is 5.9. That means no matter how good the other hardware score is, my PC will only run programs with a 5.9 or lower rating.

I'm able to run CLoD at good FPS with this Base score.

So if anyone that test there PC with this and have a 5.9 or above base score and say thy are having trouble running CLoD IT"S NOT YOUR HARDWARE.



What is the Windows Experience Index?

The Windows Experience Index measures the capability of your computer's hardware and software configuration and expresses this measurement as a number called a base score. A higher base score generally means that your computer will perform better and faster than a computer with a lower base score, especially when performing more advanced and resource-intensive tasks.

Each hardware component receives an individual subscore. Your computer's base score is determined by the lowest subscore. For example, if the lowest subscore of an individual hardware component is 2.6, then the base score is 2.6. The base score is not an average of the combined subscores. However, the subscores can give you a view of how the components that are most important to you will perform, and can help you decide which components to upgrade.

You can use the base score to buy programs and other software that are matched to your computer's base score. For example, if your computer has a base score of 3.3, then you can buy any software designed for this version of Windows that requires a computer with a base score of 3 or lower.

The scores currently range from 1.0 to 7.9. The Windows Experience Index is designed to accommodate advances in computer technology. As hardware speed and performance improve, higher score ranges will be enabled. The standards for each level of the index generally stay the same. However, in some cases, new tests might be developed that can result in lower scores.

Note

If your computer has a 64-bit central processing unit (CPU) and 4 gigabytes (GB) or less random access memory (RAM), then the Memory (RAM) subscore for your computer will have a maximum of 5.9.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Here is mine:

Check my signature for full hardware specs and overclock.

Cheers.

Considering it's on a score of 1 to 7.9 your system scores very high in almost all areas.

I don't know why you'd get a low score for your Disk drive. Even though it's a small partition it's over 25% free. (obviously you using that partition for the OS and not much else.) I wonder how they work out that score?


Cheers!

[Thee_oddball]

:)

http://jg6.net/images/score.jpg

S!

[AndyJWest]

Sorry, but I still say it is bullpoop. You cannot make a definitive statement on what will or will not run based on crude figures like this. There are generally game-specific recommendations (as for CloD), and they will be much more relevant.

(to answer your question, I have a 128 GB CRUCIAL SSD, and a I TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata 2 HDD -of course, performance may depend on what is installed where)

[jg27_mc]

Considering it's on a score of 1 to 7.9 your system scores very high in almost all areas.

I don't know why you'd get a low score for your Disk drive. Even though it's a small partition it's over 25% free. (obviously you using that partition for the OS and not much else.) I wonder how they work out that score?


Cheers!

I have 2x Samsung 500GB SATA2 HD502HJ Spinpoint F3 in RAID 0. Small partition ( C: ) of around 49.9 Gb for OS + all updates + all programs. The other partition ( D: ) of my RAID configuration has my Documents folder (practically empty), Windows temporary folders and files, games (only have 2 at the moment: CloD and CoD Black Ops) and Steam. the remaining partitions are external HDD's for storage/downloads.

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/966/hddmap.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/hddmap.jpg/)

Probably my next upgrade will be 2x SSD's (RAID 0) and maybe the future flagship graphic card of Nvidia. I'm done with AMD unless they throw us something truly awesome.

Regards.

PS: BTW, the best score I got with my current HDD's was 6.4.

[AARPRazorbacks]

(to answer your question, I have a 128 GB CRUCIAL SSD, and a I TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata 2 HDD -of course, performance may depend on what is installed where)[/QUOTE]


Good to see you score high with the 128 GB CRUCIAL SSD. I'm putting in a Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive when it gets here Monday or the next day.
The only thing I'm putting on this SSD is W-7, CLoD and RoF.
This should make W-7 much faster because W-7 was set-up to run on SDD's
as is CLoD and RoF.

I say CloD is set-up to run on SDD's because W-7 is. And for CLoD to run it's best is on W-7 64 bit.

[White Owl]

When I was first considering getting a solid state drive, I did some googling and came across an article that explained in great detail how the Windows experience index is perfectly useless for evaluating SSDs, since the index uses the drive's rotation speed as an important criteria. And of course a SSD doesn't have a rotation speed. So with that bit of information missing, all the other numbers are garbage.

I don't have the link anymore, and don't recall where I found it. :(

[Thee_oddball]

When I was first considering getting a solid state drive, I did some googling and came across an article that explained in great detail how the Windows experience index is perfectly useless for evaluating SSDs, since the index uses the drive's rotation speed as an important criteria. And of course a SSD doesn't have a rotation speed. So with that bit of information missing, all the other numbers are garbage.

I don't have the link anymore, and don't recall where I found it. :(

well considering that SSD is just a really big RAM drive that would make perfect sense :)
on the other hand we should not have to buy expensive equipment to compensate for bad code....

S!

[AARPRazorbacks]

When I was first considering getting a solid state drive, I did some googling and came across an article that explained in great detail how the Windows experience index is perfectly useless for evaluating SSDs, since the index uses the drive's rotation speed as an important criteria. And of course a SSD doesn't have a rotation speed. So with that bit of information missing, all the other numbers are garbage.

I don't have the link anymore, and don't recall where I found it. :(

I'm sure you read that some were about vista.
Windows 7 is made to run SSD. Windows experience index was up dated to test SSD drives in W-7.

Say goodbye to those times when the maximum score that a Windows Vista PC could return was 5.9. With the introduction of Windows 7, the Windows Experience Index has evolved from 5.9 up to no less than 7.9. However, at the same time, other aspects of the WEI have not changed in the least. The score that Windows 7 will return will continue to be based on the lowest subscore, taking into consideration hardware resources such as Processor; Memory (RAM); Graphics; Gaming Graphics (typically 3D); and Primary Hard Disk. But while the scoring is the same as the one debuted in Vista, the WEI can now go as high as 7.9.


“In Vista, the WEI scores ranged from 1.0 to 5.9. In Windows 7, the range has been extended upward to 7.9. The scoring rules for devices have also changed from Vista to reflect experience and feedback comparing closely rated devices with differing quality of actual use (i.e. to make the rating more indicative of actual use.) We know during the beta some folks have noticed that the score changed (relative to Vista) for one or more components in their system and this tuning, which we will describe here, is responsible for the change,” Michael Fortin, one of Microsoft’s distinguished engineers and head of the Windows Fundamentals feature team, revealed.

With Windows 7, the maximum score possible will be 7.9, a good couple of points up from Vista's 5.9. What will take for a computer to achieve the new WEI peak? Well, according to Microsoft, nothing short of the key technology improvements as they go mainstream, namely solid state disks, but also high-end graphics and multi-core processors, plus a consistent volume of RAM.

“For these new levels, we’re working to add guidelines for each level. As an example for gaming users, we expect systems with gaming graphics scores in the 6.0 to 6.9 range to support DX10 graphics and deliver good frames rates at typical screen resolutions (like 40-50 frames per second at 1280x1024). In the range of 7.0 to 7.9, we would expect higher frame rates at even higher screen resolutions. Obviously, the specifics of each game have much to do with this and the WEI scores are also meant to help game developers decide how best to scale their experience on a given system,” Fortin added, indicating that graphics remained an area with the largest amount of scores available.

The bottom line is that, in order to achieve a perfect 7.9 Windows 7 score, users will have to buy a computer powered by at least an 8 core processor. However, the processor is simply not enough. Customers will also have to feed their machine with RAM, somewhere in the vicinity of 8 GB. At the same time, Solid State Drives (SSDs) with very high random I/O rates and as low as possible latency issues will also contribute to getting close to 7.9. When it comes to graphics, users will need a card with at least DirectX 10 support and a WDDM 1.1 driver.




{And of course a SSD doesn't have a rotation speed. So with that bit of information missing, all the other numbers are garbage.}

There are SSD developers that use Windows experience index from W-7 to test an sell there SSD's like this. And all PC game developers know of this. Like IC.


Single SandForce Driven™ SSDs Are First to Proclaim Maximum Windows Experience Index Storage Score

SandForce Driven SSD Manufacturers Proudly Demonstrate Production SATA 6Gb/s SSDs at Computex including the latest program member, Kingston Technology

COMPUTEX TAIPEI 2011
June 02, 2011 02:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time
TAIPEI, Taiwan--(EON: Enhanced Online News)--SandForce® Inc., the innovator of Solid State Drive (SSD) Processors that drive ubiquitous deployment of volume flash memory into primary and I/O intensive data storage applications, today announced that single SSDs based on the SF-2000 SSD Processor and advanced 25nm multi-level cell (MLC) flash memory achieve the highest possible Microsoft Windows Experience Index (WEI) score of 7.9 for the disk data transfer rate. Microsoft provides the WEI to enable end users to easily identify their system’s capabilities when considering running high-performance applications with the best user experience. Today a single SF-2000-based SandForce Driven™ SSD eliminates storage access bottlenecks and future-proofs the system for optimally running current and next generation, data throughput-intensive applications.

“Our mission critical Mobile Workstations and Mobile Servers will be vastly improved with the addition of SF-2000 series SSDs, with up to 4 drives in RAID 0/1/5/10 configurations”
The SF-2000 processors feature a 6 Gigabit-per-second (Gb/s) SATA host interface, an unprecedented sustained sequential read/write performance of up to 500 Megabytes per second (MB/s), award-winning DuraClass™ Technology, and state-of-the-art, high-speed ONFi2 and Toggle flash interfaces supporting single-level cell (SLC) & MLC NAND flash families from all major suppliers.

“SandForce SSD Processors optimize the entire Microsoft Windows computing experience with incredible boot and program loading times while enhancing systems responsiveness under virtually all workloads when compared to traditional spinning media as well as other SSD solutions,” said Sumit Puri, Sr. Director of Strategic Marketing for SandForce. “Our innovative DuraClass technology is uniquely positioned to optimize data transfers between increasingly faster, multi-core processors and the SSD storage media, providing the highest system-level performance and longest endurance with standard NAND flash memory.”

[AndyJWest]

AARPRazorbacks, a simple question. Are you in any way connected with Microsoft? Your repeated postings about the 'Microsoft Windows Experience Index', and your reluctance to reply to negative comments, suggest to me that you either lack objectivity, or aren't interested in anyone's opinion but your own. Can you explain why we should take your opinions seriously?

[AARPRazorbacks]

AARPRazorbacks, a simple question. Are you in any way connected with Microsoft? Your repeated postings about the 'Microsoft Windows Experience Index', and your reluctance to reply to negative comments, suggest to me that you either lack objectivity, or aren't interested in anyone's opinion but your own. Can you explain why we should take your opinions seriously?

AndyJWest, You might say I'm connected with Microsoft.
I have bought and use MS software and joy stick.

As far as repeated postings about the 'Microsoft Windows Experience Index' that is what this thread is about.

My reluctance to reply to negative comments? I don't feed the trolls if thats what you mean.

I'm very objective about Microsoft Windows Experience Index because that is the PC software and hardware developers standard for there products.



Can you explain why (we) should take your opinions seriously? Are you talking for yourself or a group of people in a room hovered around your PC?

The fact is most people use MWEI (if thy know about it on there W-7) to find bottlenecks in there system to be able to run PC games such as CLoD and others.


Do thy need to have SSD"s to play CLod? No. To try and find what hardware to upgrade with out using the shotgun method and pin point the weak spot in there system MWEI is the tool to use. If and when thy want to upgrade.


AndyJWest, Let me remind you of your first post and what you said:

Bullpoop!
My 2 GB Radeon 6970 scores 6.4, and a 1280 MB Nvidia 470 scores 7.8? I think not. It doesn't seem to take into account overclocking, or much else besides - it doesn't even seem to differentiate between 69xx series cards. (I sincerely hope that nobody takes this seriously.)

Like you asked, I did not take this seriously. Or are you some how connected to Radeon :)

[Ibis]

Here is mine-
note that the hard drive is a top line SSD and according to this is the weakest link.
cheers,
Ibis.
Edit: this only runs COD reasonably
Gigabyte A-UD7-B3 MB
i7-2600K @ 4.2
8GB of Vengeance
120GB OCZ Vertex-2
Sapphire HD5870
Windows7 64bit


http://premium1.uploadit.org/Ibissix//-1.jpg

[Strike]

7.5

[JG52Krupi]

Here is mine-
note that the hard drive is a top line SSD and according to this is the weakest link.
cheers,
Ibis.
Edit: this only runs COD reasonably
Gigabyte A-UD7-B3 MB
i7-2600K @ 4.2
8GB of Vengeance
120GB OCZ Vertex-2
Sapphire HD5870
Windows7 64bit


http://premium1.uploadit.org/Ibissix//-1.jpg

Same for me, my SSD is apparently the weakest link, I do need to update new drivers/firmware I hear that improves the score.

[brando]

I'm surprised that no one has interpreted this feature as the simple sales tool that it is.

[BigPickle]

All mecanical drives will have 5.9, SSD's will give a 7. something score.

[Orpheus]

Processor: 7.5
Memory 7.7
Graphics 6.9
Gaming Graphics 6.9
PHD: 5.9

Overall (by lowest) 5.9.

I actually think this is a pretty decent attempt to overcome the vast differences in hardware/software output and compile a general 'performance index'. I wouldn't mind seeing these levels stated on the back of game boxes etc 'must have WEI of 6 to play this game' etc.

[Clu43]

I found some info on this if you feel your SSD drive score seems low. chk out post by elmo2006 about 1/2 way down thread. It did give me a good boost in that ssd score.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/254373-32-ahci-mode-only
:grin:

[Buzpilot]

Processor: 7.6
Memory 7.9
Graphics 7.9
Gaming Graphics 7.9
SSD: 7.5

[AndyJWest]

AARPRazorbacks, you think that someone who questions Microsoft's simplistic, and self-evidently flawed, 'rating' system is a troll do you? Ok, then find some links to knowledgeable outside sources that think it should be used as a tool for determining hardware/software compatibility.

It is a gimmick, and/or a way for Microsoft to boost sales. Anyone wishing to know what hardware is needed to run an application should look at the recommended specification, not at numbers pulled out of a hat.

[Ze-Jamz]

AARPRazorbacks, you think that someone who questions Microsoft's simplistic, and self-evidently flawed, 'rating' system is a troll do you? Ok, then find some links to knowledgeable outside sources that think it should be used as a tool for determining hardware/software compatibility.

It is a gimmick, and/or a way for Microsoft to boost sales. Anyone wishing to know what hardware is needed to run an application should look at the recommended specification, not at numbers pulled out of a hat.

+1

This IS NOT a accurate way of grading ones PC... i have 7.9 on everything apart from my HDD which is 5.9... guess what score i get... 5.9 beacause it is the lowest grade shown..

Its not a professional piece of benchmarking by any means..

[AndyJWest]

Ze-Jamz gets 7.9 for his HD 6950, I get 6.4 for an HD 6970, and we are supposed to take the figures seriously? Yeah, right....

Bullpoop!

[Orpheus]

+1

This IS NOT a accurate way of grading ones PC... i have 7.9 on everything apart from my HDD which is 5.9... guess what score i get... 5.9 beacause it is the lowest grade shown..

Its not a professional piece of benchmarking by any means..

May just be my common-sense hat slipping, but surely from a technical standpoint it doesn't matter how powerful your graphics card is if your hard-drive can't transfer the data fast enough? If so, then the lower score due to the HD would be accurate..

'Course I know jack about this kinda thing, but you know, seemed to make sense.. :)

[Ze-Jamz]

May just be my common-sense hat slipping, but surely from a technical standpoint it doesn't matter how powerful your graphics card is if your hard-drive can't transfer the data fast enough? If so, then the lower score due to the HD would be accurate..

'Course I know jack about this kinda thing, but you know, seemed to make sense.. :)

You are correct Sir on what you state..however my point still stands :)

I could go from a HD5770 1gig to a HD6950 2gig and my score doesn't change...so does that mean that based on your assumption that i wouldn't see an increase in FPS ingame?

Thats my first point, my second is that fact that this couldny possibly be used for a professional benchmarking program..no ifs or buts

As already stated its a 'Windows' toy..nothing more

[Orpheus]

You are correct Sir on what you state..however my point still stands :)

I could go from a HD5770 1gig to a HD6950 2gig and my score doesn't change...so does that mean that based on your assumption that i wouldn't see an increase in FPS ingame?

Thats my first point, my second is that fact that this couldny possibly be used for a professional benchmarking program..no ifs or buts

As already stated its a 'Windows' toy..nothing more

I'm sure you would see an increase, but (hat again) as a result of better use of what is already being piped through to the GPU... the HD bottleneck still exists, and no matter how much you upgrade your GPU, you would run into it eventually. Your GPU score would go up, but still be limited by the HD.

But yeah it's certainly not immediately apparent what the numbers actually mean, or how to usefully apply them to either hardware or software. Not a great system, but as a move towards a global 'shorthand' for system requirements, I think it's a reasonable first step. :)

[AndyJWest]

Curiouser and curiouser. I've just updated the Catalyst drivers from version 11.5 to 11.6, and 'Windows Experience Index' claims to have detected 'new hardware'! So I tested again, and lo and behold - the graphics scores go from 6.4 to 7.9!
http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae65/ajv00987k/WindowsExperienceIndex2.jpg

Evidently, it doesn't measure hardware at all...

[Ze-Jamz]

I'm sure you would see an increase, but (hat again) as a result of better use of what is already being piped through to the GPU... the HD bottleneck still exists, and no matter how much you upgrade your GPU, you would run into it eventually. Your GPU score would go up, but still be limited by the HD.

But yeah it's certainly not immediately apparent what the numbers actually mean, or how to usefully apply them to either hardware or software. Not a great system, but as a move towards a global 'shorthand' for system requirements, I think it's a reasonable first step. :)

Ok....:cool:

[Ze-Jamz]

Curiouser and curiouser. I've just updated the Catalyst drivers from version 11.5 to 11.6, and 'Windows Experience Index' claims to have detected 'new hardware'! So I tested again, and lo and behold - the graphics scores go from 6.4 to 7.9!
http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae65/ajv00987k/WindowsExperienceIndex2.jpg

Evidently, it doesn't measure hardware at all...

You shouldnt be at 6.4 with that GFX card mate...even with this inferior benchmark.. everyone here thats used it with 69## gfx cards gets 7.9

[Igo kyu]

My SSD gets a score of 6.8, while my HD 4870 gets 7.5.

It aint for real.

[FS~Phat]

Heres my effort and as you can see its not really representative of how COD will run. I have 4 GPU's and it only measures the performance of 1. Not to mention the game will run perfectly on my system once the code is optimised in the next 3 months. Its already very close to perfect performance wise, just the occassional hiccup stutter and sound issues that everyone is having.

https://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1ppRhVA-tjnep9JmlWsnGgCSM9uVDyZA1XwM4tKUtuP3mMhBUTirxpJpBs 45KaFcHcBBYZUhJVDpA/Phatboy69_WEI.jpg?psid=1

[ATAG_Doc]

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff297/timraffety/Untitled.png

[Barrakooda]

mine

[JG5_emil]

slightly OT....if I added a SSD to my PC (apparently the HDD is the limiting factor according to that test) would I still get the full benefit by having COD on the SSD but Windows on the HDD?

[Ze-Jamz]

slightly OT....if I added a SSD to my PC (apparently the HDD is the limiting factor according to that test) would I still get the full benefit by having COD on the SSD but Windows on the HDD?

Yes if all your SSD is accessing is the game then it will be noticeably quicker..dont put windows on the same drive, your defeating the object a bit

hth

[JG52Uther]

My 4850 is scoring higher than some of the better cards here lol.what a load of b*ll*cks this test is!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/JG52Uther/perf.jpg

[LT.INSTG8R]

Yes if all your SSD is accessing is the game then it will be noticeably quicker..dont put windows on the same drive, your defeating the object a bit

hth

Exactly!

This test has no real value at ALL. Even with my brand new i7 2600K rig I only score a 5.9 because I run a standard HDD(tho is a SATA 3) yet the rest of my rig scores a 7.8 across the board.

The ONLY way to raise your score in this useless "benchmark" is to have an SSD or a RAID array.

These scores mean VERY little in real world applications.

I score nearly 28K in 3Dmark 06 and and close to 5k in 3Dmark 11 those are benchmarks that actually MEAN something.

3Dmark 06
http://3dmark.com/3dm06/15835743

3Dmark 11
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1429419

THOSE are benchmark scores that actually have some validity;)

[Insuber]

bullpoop as someone said above

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Insuber/temp.jpg

[Jaws2002]

I overclocked the processor to a stable 4.5GB for now. When I'll have some time I'll try to see how far it can go.:-P

This 2600k is bloody outstanding. Best 300 dolars I ever spent on computer parts. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

http://i.imgur.com/h6U8l.jpg :mrgreen:

http://i.imgur.com/xizkk.jpg

[runyan99]

All Control Panels Items?

I see no such thing.

[Rattlehead]

The best benchmarks are the games themselves.
Synthetic benchies are nice, but don't count for a lot, imo.

[RedToo]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/28-06-20117-37-43-pm.jpg

Goes faster when it's overclocked ...

RedToo.

[Jaws2002]

Goes faster when it's overclocked ...

RedToo.

Yep. And that 2600k just begs for it.:mrgreen:

[ATAG_Dutch]

Nope.

No.

Not, no, not no way.

uh-uh.

Nope etc.

[AARPRazorbacks]

If you are using Windows 7 you can see just how good of a PC you have compared to other PC's.
And pin point your slow hardware.

The picture shows my PC and the lowest score is my HDD.

After I get the SSD installed this score should go up and speed up the PC for gaming.

I think it will Help run CLoD better then it is now.

To do this go to -Control Panel>All Controls Panels Items>Performance Information and tools.

I would say I have a High range PC.



Windows 7 features


Windows Experience Index rates your hardware.
Ever wonder how a PC you own—or want to buy—stacks up against others? The Windows Experience Index is one way to find out.

This feature, updated for Windows 7, rates the performance of key hardware components such as the CPU, disk drive, and graphics card. The PC is then given a score between 1.0 and 7.9.

When you're shopping for a new PC, the Windows Experience Index can help you find the model that suits your needs. Scoring a PC you already own can help pinpoint slower components worth upgrading. A PC with a score of 2 is typically sufficient for basic tasks like word processing or web browsing. Running the Aero desktop experience requires at least a 3, while graphics–intensive software frequently requires a 4 or higher.











6527

My PC now has a base score of 6.7 after putting in a Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive. The 6.7 base score is based from my CPU.
Before I put in the SSD, my base score was 5.9 which was based on my HD. The HD now in 7.3.

I put W-7 64bit on the SSD with CLoD, Tracir5 and Fraps and there drivers.

CLod loads and runs faster with less stutters and better FPS at high settings other then forest at med, building detail med and Building amount med.

If you are able to get a SSD I would recommend it after trying one myself.

Also CLoD looks much sharper with the SSD.

Keep in mind the SSD's have gotten better. Try to get one that is upto date with your other hareware. The brand name is up to you.

[Jaws2002]

Yeah. SSDs came a long way.
They still cost an arm and a leg, but they are damn faaaast.
I got two Crucial M4 SSD's. A 128GB for the OS and a 256GB for the games and some heavy apps. I hooked them both on intel 6GB/s SATA3 controler.
I'm sure the SSDs created the biggest performance boost in my upgrade.

[AARPRazorbacks]

Yeah. SSDs came a long way.
They still cost an arm and a leg, but they are damn faaaast.
I got two Crucial M4 SSD's. A 128GB for the OS and a 256GB for the games and some heavy apps. I hooked them both on intel 6GB/s SATA3 controler.
I'm sure the SSDs created the biggest performance boost in my upgrade.

Jaws2002,
You have a very good PC!
I was only able to use SATA2 on my MB as far as I know. The Crucial M4 SSD that I have is up to SATA3.
Which would be very fast.

OT; I see you have foot peddles. Have you found that you can use then to use your toe brakes to brake left and right in the Spitfire?

I have the left brake set to brake both wheels and the right peddle to brake to the right.
When you rudder to the right and push the left brake at the same time you will brake to the right wheel.
If you use the rudder to turn left and use the toe brake you will use the left wheel brake. If you just push the brake on the left peddle you will brake with both wheels.
flyer01~S~


MOBO- Gigabyte GA-EP45_UD3P.
CPU-Intel core Duo E8600 @ 3.33GHz.
Ram 4GB.
PSU-(Duel power supply.
500 and 550 watt on the GPU.
550 watt on MOBO.
500 watt on HD and CD/DVD player)
GPU-Video card GTX 470 1280 MB GDDR5.
Internal SSD- Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
Internal HD-Seagate Barracuda SATA2 1TB/TO 32MB 7200RPM.
External HD-Seagate USB2.00 500 GB 7200RPM.
OS-(Duel partition on Internal HD.
Windows XP Pro 32bit.
Windows 7 PRO 64 bit.)

CFS3 and Expansions,FSX on XP 32 bit HDD-Seagate Barracuda SATA2 1TB/TO 32MB 7200RPM.
CLoD and RoF in W-7 Pro 64 bit HDD-Seagate Barracuda SATA2 1TB/TO 32MB 7200RPM.
CLoD and RoF in W-7 Pro 64 bit SSD- Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive

MSWFF Pro 2.
2 saitek x52 throttles.
Saitek Pro Flight PZ35 Rudder Pedals
Monitor- HP-19, HP-24 or a VIZIO 42in screen.
Turtle Beach Gaming Headset and Mic.
TIR5.
Fraps.
Systems Windows Experience Index rate of 6.7 base with SSD 5.9 with HDD

[Jaws2002]

My right toe brake doesn't work for some reason. I assigned brakes on the left pedal and use it togheter with the rudder to steer on the ground. It works ok so far.

[Blackdog_kt]

My right toe brake doesn't work for some reason. I assigned brakes on the left pedal and use it togheter with the rudder to steer on the ground. It works ok so far.

I suppose you're flying the RAF warbids? If yes, then that's because it worked this way in reality: a single brake lever on the stick grip, then rudder deflection to manipulate the valve regulating the flow of air to the pneumatic brakes (left rudder for left brake, right rudder for right brake, no rudder for both brakes).

Individual toebrakes work fine in Luftwaffe aircraft (while the previous system doesn't, you can't turn by one brake command plus rudder input) because they did have individual wheel brakes.

In other words, if the aircraft in the sim doesn't have it there's a good chance it's because the real one didn't either. This extends to other stuff like the lack of lockable tailwheels and so on. Lots of people get confused (especially if they have previous IL2:1946 experience and expect things to work the same way) and think it's bugs but upon closer inspection many such cases are actually just copying the real aircraft systems.

Hope it helps somewhat ;)

[David198502]

I suppose you're flying the RAF warbids? If yes, then that's because it worked this way in reality: a single brake lever on the stick grip, then rudder deflection to manipulate the valve regulating the flow of air to the pneumatic brakes (left rudder for left brake, right rudder for right brake, no rudder for both brakes).

Individual toebrakes work fine in Luftwaffe aircraft (while the previous system doesn't, you can't turn by one brake command plus rudder input) because they did have individual wheel brakes.

In other words, if the aircraft in the sim doesn't have it there's a good chance it's because the real one didn't either. This extends to other stuff like the lack of lockable tailwheels and so on. Lots of people get confused (especially if they have previous IL2:1946 experience and expect things to work the same way) and think it's bugs but upon closer inspection many such cases are actually just copying the real aircraft systems.

Hope it helps somewhat ;)

yeah i was really confused the first fiew days, trying to lock my tailwheel before the start with my emil.i think it was you who told me that in reality emils didnt have lockable tailwheels.:grin:
i really like such realism,on the other hand i didnt like that the devs changed the former realistic compasses and i think also the behaviour of raf fighters when pulling negative g's.
+1 for realism,...its a sim, isnt it.

[Jaws2002]

I suppose you're flying the RAF warbids? If yes, then that's because it worked this way in reality: a single brake lever on the stick grip, then rudder deflection to manipulate the valve regulating the flow of air to the pneumatic brakes (left rudder for left brake, right rudder for right brake, no rudder for both brakes).



My problem is phisical with the pedals. Nothing to do with the game. Is only one brake axis, so it doesn't bother me much.

[AARPRazorbacks]

January 20, 2009,

Summary
Microsoft has lifted the veil on some of the changes made to the Windows Experience Index system in Windows 7.



Microsoft has lifted the veil on some of the changes made to the Windows Experience Index system in Windows 7.

"The Windows Experience Index (also known as WEI) is a suite of system tests that give the end user an idea of the performance capabilities of their PC. I’ve talked before about WEI in Vista so I won’t cover that ground again (refer to this post for background information), but I will take a look at some of the most significant changes to WEI in Windows 7.

Windows 7 raises the top WEI score from 5.9 to 7.9. This takes into account faster hardware that’s been released since Vista went RTM.
Five areas tested stays the same:
- Processor
- Memory (RAM)
- Graphics (general desktop work)
- Gaming Graphics (typically 3D)
- Primary Hard Disk
The scoring rules have been changed, which means that scores on identical hardware relative to Vista might not be the same.
WEI scores of 6 and 7 represent high end systems.
to score a 6 or 7 in terms of gaming graphics, a system will have to support DirectX 10 and WDDM 1.1 driver. DirectX 9 support only, along with WDDM 1.0 drivers, will cap score at 5.9.
Hard drive scores for drives exhibiting what Microsoft calls “problematic” have been capped under Beta 1 of Windows 7.
As guidance, Microsoft claim that most quad-core CPUs will be able to hit high 6 to low 7 range, with 8-core rigs able to approach 7.9.
I’ve yet to see a system that scores a full 7.9 under Windows 7. To be honest, it might not be possible right now. As far as I can tell the Core i7 Extreme 965 doesn’t score a 7.9, in which case to get a high score for the CPU you’d need an 8-core dual-CPU rig like a Skulltrail, but that platform doesn’t support SLI or Crossfire, so you’d be hit on the graphics side. Maybe an insane overclock on the 965 would work, but that only goes so far. I’m sure you’d also need a quad-GPU graphics card too. Oh, and a RAID 0 array of really fast drives, maybe SSDs. And add to that fast DDR3.

Given this it may not be possible to hit the magical 7.9 score just yet."

^This was in 2009 when W-7 frist came out.



Next is up to date in 2011

"Windows Vista and Windows 7 come with an "Aero Theme", which makes heavy use of your graphics card (video card) to give you this beautiful interface, colors, and animation that are a stark transition from previous versions of Windows (including Windows XP, but mostly earlier ones). Since these nice animation and visual effects require more resources from your graphics card, processor (CPU), and memory (RAM) to a lesser extent, Microsoft has come up with a universal measure, a number, that evaluates (somewhat arbitrarily) how well equipped your computer is to run demanding tasks like running the Aero Theme - this does not mean that a low Windows Experience Index will prevent you from running the Aero experience on Windows 7 or Vista, just that the experience may be less SMOOTH."