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raaaid
06-09-2011, 02:11 PM
shouldnt be the other way around that you cant look back with straps on?

pupo162
06-09-2011, 02:13 PM
agreed.

makes no sense.

JG52Krupi
06-09-2011, 02:20 PM
This is a simple loss in translation I believe, by loosen straps 1C means that your are purposely moving your head to squint down the sights.

But I agree, they should remove the lock and allow you to look around normally, I have heard some mutterings from head track less pilots saying that this restriction gives track it and free track users an advantage. Hopefully they will change it back to the 1946 standard.

raaaid
06-09-2011, 02:42 PM
well maybe if you have a too long nose you cant look back, thats my only explanation

actually remember that the old 190 pilot was a dwarf :), maybe the clod pilot is pinochio :)

bongodriver
06-09-2011, 02:46 PM
I use track ir and have the same restriction with loosen straps so not sure we really get any advantage.

well maybe if you have a too long nose you cant look back, thats my only explanation

actually remember that the old 190 pilot was a dwarf , maybe the clod pilot is pinochio

actually made me chuckle........

JG52Krupi
06-09-2011, 03:20 PM
I use track ir and have the same restriction with loosen straps so not sure we really get any advantage.



actually made me chuckle........

They we get an advantage as we can set the centre to the right and see the whole revi sight, but they can move the centre with the mouse if they wish however they seemed to ignore my suggestion and keep on ranting :|

Langnasen
06-09-2011, 03:35 PM
Because it's been named like that to pretend it's some clever new feature, when all it is is a gun-sight view. Probably thought up by the same marketing chap who did the pre-release videos.

raaaid
06-09-2011, 03:56 PM
it would be cool if when you lose the straps with the canopy off and apply negative g you get off the plane:cool:

oh fork¡¡¡¡

Seeker
06-09-2011, 04:19 PM
Because some one in the design team didn't think it through properly.

It's a very, very poor "feature".

Blackdog_kt
06-09-2011, 06:05 PM
They we get an advantage as we can set the centre to the right and see the whole revi sight, but they can move the centre with the mouse if they wish however they seemed to ignore my suggestion and keep on ranting :|

Exactly, it's perfectly possible to change the default center position so you can see the entire gunsight without going to shift-F1 view, regardless of whether you use headtracking or not.

If you use a head tracker:
1) Move your head a bit to the left (not turn, but move laterally)
2) Press your center key and return to your normal position in your chair
3) Since the tracker now thinks that center is to the left of where you're standing your actual position is to the right of that center and the whole view is shifted to the right.
4) You can now view the gunsight without going to shift-F1 view.

If you don't use a head tracker:
1) Enable mouselook (which in turn disables the mouse cursor for the clickable cockpit), default key to switch between the two mouse functions is F10.
2) Press the center view key.
3) Now that you're looking straight ahead, keep the right mouse button pressed and drag your mouse to the right. This shifts the entire viewpoint to the right, continue until the Revi is in sight and then release the right mouse button. I think that pressing the center view key doesn't reset this, so you can fly and fight perfectly fine once you adjust it.
4) Go ahead and shoot stuff down.

There's a load of options for things like this and in fact, the interface is one of the few features of the sim that the manual actually explains pretty well. Go ahead and read the manual people, sheesh :-P

41Sqn_Stormcrow
06-09-2011, 08:05 PM
But please, pleeeaaaze, accept also that some complain about the current gunsight thing because your nice advices don't work. And I DID try them all.

Bloblast
06-09-2011, 10:16 PM
I hope this will be changed in the coming patch.

Blackdog_kt
06-10-2011, 12:40 AM
But please, pleeeaaaze, accept also that some complain about the current gunsight thing because your nice advices don't work. And I DID try them all.

It didn't? That's the first i've heard of it, it certainly works on my end.

In fact, i've been flying the 109 this way for the past month or so and it rocks: wide view for situational awareness and judging closing rates, lead, etc plus gunsight fully in view for getting the job done.

My accuracy went up about 10% after doing this.