HOTFIX - to Cliffs Of Dover Retail Patch v 1.01.14550

[nearmiss]

Il-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs Of Dover Retail Patch v 1.01.14550

THIS PATCH INFO FROM LUTHIER May 20,2011 at 9:30 AM PST

We're releasing a hot fix to mainly address the DB prop pitch as well as a few other issues.

Should be available from steam in a few hours.

Hotfix notes edited into the main post, plus here they are again.

ATTENTION!
If you experience sub-par performance or unexpected artifacts please update your graphic
drivers to the latest version.
ATI Cards:
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloa...downloads.aspx (http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx)
NVidia Cards:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
Additionally, if you have disabled Cloud Synchronization for config files, you may be playing
a game with an obsolete controls config. Please back up and delete your old file and reenable
Cloud Synchronization to grab a latest stock version.

GENERAL
* The game will now automatically delete and recreate its cache when a new game
version is installed;
* Medium-range terrain detail noise is less dramatic when seen from up-close;
* Improved the lighting of spline roads and runways;
* Fixed empty tooltips occasionally appearing at edges of the 2D map;
* Map zoom extents now reset properly when switching between game maps of
different size;
* By popular demand, enemy indicator arrows will now only appear in the no-cockpit
view, and will not show up when the cockpit is turned on, i.e. work they did in
the original Il-2 games.

AIRCRAFT INTERNALS
* Removed warnings of a missing "Select_F1" piece when flying a Hurricane.
* The Sunderland will no longer cause errors when loading a mission.

AIRCRAFT VISUALS
* Inverted the movement of the Bf. 109's radiator flap indicator (raised when
radiator closed).
* Propellor visuals are now tied to epilepsy filter settings applicable regions.

AIRCRAFT PHYSICS & A.I.
* Spitfires' payload in outer-most machine guns changed to contain tracers. The more
historical no-tracers loadout can still be selected and applied manually in plane
options.
* Removed the ability to feather propellors on Daimler-Benz engines by increasing
the pitch angle beyond normal operational range manually.

MULTIPLAYER
* Conversion settings should properly synchronize between all players;
* Fixed the weapon selection grid in online games requiring an extra click to save.

(http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=286240)

[Strike]

Excellent! Cool :D Can't wait to test it out :p

[Untamo]

S!

Much appreciated! :)

-Untamo

[Fjordmonkey]

This makes me happy in my pants :D

[Ze-Jamz]

This makes me happy in my pants :D
:shock:

[Dano]

Version number staying the same? How to ascertain steam has patched it?

[BigPickle]

very cool thank you
Any news about fixing full screen? This is what i get (anyone else can try) if you take a picture etc or video with FRAPS of the start up sequence, the splash is in fullscreen but then it drops out and you will get this untill the main menu:

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s3/bigpickle1/Launcher2011-05-2017-53-17-79.jpg

[Kankkis]

Version number staying the same? How to ascertain steam has patched it?

Wondered same, but test 109 :grin:

[Ze-Jamz]

Surely your see Steam updating?

[Kankkis]

Surely your see Steam updating?

Patches come in couple of seconds to me, i don't want to look my steam next 2-4hours :grin:

Anyway, what this means?
* Propellor visuals are now tied to epilepsy filter settings applicable regions.

[Dano]

Surely your see Steam updating?

Yeh, I'll just sit here and watch steam for the next couple of hours, I'll not go have a shower, cook dinner or take a dump...

[smink1701]

Luthier...please...make aircraft icons toggle and cycle :-)just like IL2.

Thanks.

[ARGH]

props will now be visible, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

one of the most immersive elements is comming back:grin:

[skouras]

Yeh, I'll just sit here and watch steam for the next couple of hours, I'll not go have a shower, cook dinner or take a dump...

:grin: hahahahahahaha

[Ze-Jamz]

Anyway, what this means?
* Propellor visuals are now tied to epilepsy filter settings applicable regions.

Hmm i did wonder however i can only presume it means different regions have different laws to use a better word on these filters..some are just content with having a warning on the DVD/download etc etc while others have to do what CoD done to start..hopefully some players will have better prop animation now then?

[BigPickle]

props will now be visible, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

one of the most immersive elements is comming back:grin:

Thats a massive guess there bud, I hope your wild speculation is right though :-P

[Kankkis]

Hmm i did wonder however i can only presume it means different regions have different laws to use a better word on these filters..some are just content with having a warning on the DVD/download etc etc while others have to do what CoD done to start..hopefully some players will have better prop animation now then?

Yeah, that is how i understand it too, crazy, i'll live in Finland did i get prop or not :grin:

[anavas44]

Thats a massive guess there bud, I hope your wild speculation is right though :-P

I wouldn't be so happy... just in case you know... :-P

[phoenix1963]

Have some try to set the sound to 16bit 96000HZ in sound card setup and Uncoded in Audio settings in game.. :)

This doesn't work for me.
The odd thing is, the loss of sound seems Server dependent. I lose it on some but not others.

We're releasing a hot fix to mainly address the DB prop pitch as well as a few other issues...

The loss of sound online is almost as important as the above, but no fix mentioned.

56RAF_phoenix

EDIT ************************************

I've found two switches in windows: Sounds -> Playback -> [device] -> Properties -> Advanced -> Exclusive Mode
UNCHECK this.
I've just tried 4 servers, sounds are all on.
But, of course, I need to try more later.

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Yeh, I'll just sit here and watch steam for the next couple of hours, I'll not go have a shower, cook dinner or take a dump...

lol Dano,too much imformation but i get your drift:)

[David198502]

"Additionally, if you have disabled Cloud Synchronization for config files, you may be playing
a game with an obsolete controls config. Please back up and delete your old file and reenable
Cloud Synchronization to grab a latest stock version."

well i have disabled it since the start of the game because it was advised to gain performance.now which file should i back up and delete,before i enable cloud syncronisation in steam????

[ARGH]

Thats a massive guess there bud, I hope your wild speculation is right though :-P

not a guess. an interpretation.

* Propellor visuals are now tied to epilepsy filter settings applicable regions.



if you disable the filter then propellors would not be affected, aka; should now be visible.:-)

[BigPickle]

hmm i really hope so but i think it would still be Sue Tasic, and I've heard she's not a very nice lady to be involved with.

Or it could mean, "we know Russians wont sue the crap out of us if anyone starts foaming so we'll unlock it for them, but if any other countries so much as even hint at appreciating the US model, then we'll lock that bitch up so tight even Clint Eastwood wouldnt be able to shoot the lock off" :-P

[Kankkis]

Props are back :grin:

[Derinahon]

Yeh, I'll just sit here and watch steam for the next couple of hours, I'll not go have a shower, cook dinner or take a dump...

Like most of us on Tuesday night :P

[Vengeanze]

Yes, yes, and yes. Original props are back with the minipatch if your epilepsy filter is disabled.
:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

[335th_GRAthos]

...could mean, "we know Russians wont sue the crap out of us if anyone starts foaming so we'll unlock it for them, but if any other countries so much as even hint at appreciating the US model, then we'll lock that bitch up so tight even Clint Eastwood wouldnt be able to shoot the lock off" :-P


ROFL!

OK, give us a Chick Norris one as well! :D

[brando]

"Additionally, if you have disabled Cloud Synchronization for config files, you may be playing
a game with an obsolete controls config. Please back up and delete your old file and reenable
Cloud Synchronization to grab a latest stock version."

well i have disabled it since the start of the game because it was advised to gain performance.now which file should i back up and delete,before i enable cloud syncronisation in steam????

Bump. I'd also like to know which file(s) need deleting and rebuilding?

[BigPickle]

Props are back :grin:

Heck yeah, Chuck Norris is putting the M60's back and takin off his bandana, Chuck likes, Chuck says foam is good

Bump. I'd also like to know which file(s) need deleting and rebuilding?

I just backed up my 1CSoftClub whole folder from My Documents. Then after deleted the orginal and enabled cloud thing in steam.

[garengarch]

great - and very fast - work. thanks

[SG1_Lud]

Excellent Luthier. You kept the word you gave for that hotfix and even more.

Thanks again.

[furbs]

Anyone downloaded the hotfix yet?

[Siegfried]

I have my F5 key polished like a mirror!!! Lol

[BigPickle]

I loose about 10 FPS since turning on steam cloud, does it have to stay turned or once its sync'd and replaced those files can you turn it off again.

[Kankkis]

I loose about 10 FPS since turning on steam cloud, does it have to stay turned or once its sync'd and replaced those files can you turn it off again.

I have never even bothered disable cloud, how it can be so much fps hit?.

I'll think i'll try it too after this hotfix.

[David198502]

I loose about 10 FPS since turning on steam cloud, does it have to stay turned or once its sync'd and replaced those files can you turn it off again.

same for me.pretty exactly 10fps less than without cloud synchronization.

[Ze-Jamz]

This is going to be another 3 hours turns into next day situation again isnt it... :)

I want me fixes and i wants them now

[Doc_uk]

Can you plz fix the sound problems, ive got sound in game or i havnt:(

[Untamo]

What the heck does the cloud sync do to take that much resources? :O

-Untamo

[anavas44]

I have never even bothered disable cloud, how it can be so much fps hit?.

I'll think i'll try it too after this hotfix.

The only thing that Steam Cloud does is, WHEN YOU LOAD AND/OR EXIT THE GAME it synchronizes your files with the files on the cloud (basically confuser.ini, it's like a backup of your files on the cloud), so it's impossible that your performance is worse with it enabled.

There's another option called "Enable Steam community while in game" or something like that that enables the steam layout when you are ingame. This option MAY use some extra resources (although I don't think so).

[Kankkis]

The only thing that Steam Cloud does is, WHEN YOU LOAD AND/OR EXIT THE GAME it synchronizes your files with the files on the cloud (basically confuser.ini, it's like a backup of your files on the cloud), so it's impossible that your performance is worse with it enabled.

There's another option called "Enable Steam community while in game" or something like that that enables the steam layout when you are ingame. This option MAY use some extra resources (although I don't think so).

Just couple of post, they say it takes 10fps from game??

[Al_Gore]

It seems to me this future doesn't work right crowds I mean. So if you turn it off it will keep you from any mistakes in ini files. I think it will be work properly in a time :).

[mungee]

A big improvement in frame rate - thanks Luthier.

[Tigertooo]

A big improvement in frame rate - thanks Luthier.

so the hotfix is up then? how can i check if i got it?

[Kankkis]

so the hotfix is up then? how can i check if i got it?

No it's not, maybe he got last official patch.

You can test how 109 pp works.

[SG1_Lud]

so the hotfix is up then? how can i check if i got it?

If they dont change the version number, another test would be:
fly the 109, and look at the radiator rods in the wings. If they are out when the radiator is fully closed, then you have the hotfix applied.

that or what kankkis said, whatever you know better

[Tigertooo]

:???:109 pp? sorry for my ignorance but what does this mean,?
ignore this, answer was given couple of seconds ago. thank you chaps

[SG1_Lud]

:???:109 pp? sorry for my ignorance but what does this mean,?

means prop pitch, but if you're unsure how to check it, use the other trick I mention (look above your last post)

[JG53Frankyboy]

this damn STEAM sync killed the work of a day.....controls and window settings are gone....GREAT.

Now i have to look if i can repair that with one of the saved back up files. I will never enable this steam sync again.......

[Tigertooo]

thanks again, apreciated

[SG1_Lud]

this damn STEAM sync killed the work of a day.....controls and window settings are gone....GREAT.

Now i have to look if i can repair that with one of the saved back up files. I will never enable this steam sync again.......

ja, I'll never understand that cloud thing.

But you know, if they change the structure of the files, you dont want to overwrite it with the backup... so better take notes or screenshots now of your controls and redo the work by hand...

[Ze-Jamz]

If they dont change the version number, another test would be:
fly the 109, and look at the radiator rods in the wings. If they are out when the radiator is fully closed, then you have the hotfix applied.

that or what kankkis said, whatever you know better

Well il be dammed..

I never even know they existed..lmao

Im sure i may have noticed them before but just thought it was a bug...damm i didnt even know the 109 had these..

i feel ashamed

[Bloblast]

Downloading fix at the moment

Prop setting for 109 has changed blue handle just a handle for increase or decrease handle automatically drops back to the middle. You got to look at the propellor pitch indicator for current setting.

[Ze-Jamz]

Yea its here

[fearlessfrog]

Hotfix has been applied via Steam for me and shows on the main Menu screen on the lower left as version number:

Version: 1.01.14588

Hope that helps.

[skouras]

confirm:grin:

[Ze-Jamz]

version number does change btw

[SG1_Lud]

Well il be dammed..

I never even know they existed..lmao

Im sure i may have noticed them before but just thought it was a bug...damm i didnt even know the 109 had these..

i feel ashamed

You dont have to be ashamed. There's a lot of thing to learn and this sim represents much of them accurately. Some features appears like bugs.

[Ze-Jamz]

PP seems to take forever now to adjust..is that how it should be when mapped to increase and decrease?

[Ze-Jamz]

Also..is it just me or does the fuel cock not work now?

i havent chnaged anything, same key is mapped even mapped it again but when i start mission the fuel cock is already open..cant seem to close it with clickable cockpit either

[Insuber]

Just downloaded the hotfix (some 49 MB).

Cheers,
Insuber

[Helrza]

PP seems to take forever now to adjust..is that how it should be when mapped to increase and decrease?

can confirm this. takes quite a bit of time for the adjustment in the 109 tbh havnt tried the spit or hurr yet. but at least its working now :D

One thing ive also noticed it over london i have dissapearing/ reappearing buildings and bridges. anyone else have this problem? I do have the latest nvidia drivers 270.61.

Other than that, seems a bit smoother once again. :)

[Ze-Jamz]

can confirm this. takes quite a bit of time for the adjustment in the 109 tbh havnt tried the spit or hurr yet. but at least its working now :D

One thing ive also noticed it over london i have dissapearing/ reappearing buildings and bridges. anyone else have this problem? I do have the latest nvidia drivers 270.61.

Other than that, seems a bit smoother once again. :)

I can imagine in RL as its electric operated it would take this long to adjust?...seemed before you could just start engine and taxi within 5 seconds

[Longbone]

NOW IT SHOWS VERSION 1.01.14.588 :grin:

let's have a look

[Kankkis]

I get rid of my terrible stuttering over London, I lowered Texture Quality Orginal -> High, that cures my stutter over london, smooth now.

I love the new prop, it need vSync, without it terrible tearing on it.

[anavas44]

Yeah, I can confirm that this new patch runs wonders. I also love the new prop!!! I barely remember the old one LOL.

Luthier, please don't forget about the Force Feedback issue. It works fine, but it needs some high G movements before it's activated when a mission is loaded (only aileron and elevator effects, machine gun effects always work). Also, during the flight sometimes those aileron and elevator effects are disabled until some high G movements are done again.

Thanks for the continued support,

[Kankkis]

can confirm this. takes quite a bit of time for the adjustment in the 109 tbh havnt tried the spit or hurr yet. but at least its working now :D

One thing ive also noticed it over london i have dissapearing/ reappearing buildings and bridges. anyone else have this problem? I do have the latest nvidia drivers 270.61.

Other than that, seems a bit smoother once again. :)

I got dissapearing buildings too from close range but fixed it when i choose building amount to UNLIMITED, there was no performance loss.

Lowered Texture Quality Orginal -> High, i get this way really smooth fly over london rooftops.

[Tvrdi]

game is smootehr now but I lost sound twice in multiplayer...completely

[Insuber]

Just ran the game with the latest hotfix, and did a test above London (all maxed out, SSAO on, 1920x1200). There is something strange, the memory usage goes up indefinitely, I've stopped the flight at 2835 MB of load. Matter for Luthier ;). Here is the Afterburner screenshot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Insuber/Capture-1.gif

[Steuben]

Multiplayer i am getting 5-10 fps! Offline 50 fps 35 down low over land! Offline everything runs fine! Except the sound keeps disapearing! Very annoying! Fix it ASAP PlS!

[AARPRazorbacks]

Just implanted the hot fix into my PC in the US of A. Rolling out on the tarmac to starte looking for some trolls.:grin:


Sir luthier , This song reminds me of this sim and the patches. Like it or not where addicted to Love (CLoD) thanks for the kiss. :)

flyer01~S~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcATvu5f9vE

[JG53Frankyboy]

[B]Il-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs Of Dover Retail Patch v 1.01.14550

Additionally, if you have disabled Cloud Synchronization for config files, you may be playing
a game with an obsolete controls config. Please back up and delete your old file and reenable
Cloud Synchronization to grab a latest stock version.



as a non native english speaker and a STEAM novice - I personally would like to have a further explanation about this please.
Thx in advance !

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Just ran the game with the latest hotfix, and did a test above London (all maxed out, SSAO on, 1920x1200). There is something strange, the memory usage goes up indefinitely, I've stopped the flight at 2835 MB of load. Matter for Luthier ;). Here is the Afterburner screenshot:


I don't see what's strange, seems to be working great. You have a 3gb card according to your specs, so the game is using the VRAM available to the best of it's ability. Why have 3gb of VRAM and not use it? On my 1.2gb card the game consistently uses 1-1.1gb of VRAM.

[Helrza]

I got dissapearing buildings too from close range but fixed it when i choose building amount to UNLIMITED, there was no performance loss.

Lowered Texture Quality Orginal -> High, i get this way really smooth fly over london rooftops.

Funnily enough i had to go the oposite way, from unlimited to high :D but fixed that problem so im happy :) also the texture change did wonders over london, nice and smooth low over buildings :D awsome stuff that, thanks for the heads up :D

[Tbag]

as a non native english speaker and a STEAM novice - I personally would like to have a further explanation about this please.
Thx in advance !

This is what I did (WIN 7):

-Go to C:\Users\YOURNAME\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover
-Deleted all .ini files
-Started the game and re-assigned all my controls and settings.

The result is worth it :)

[Aggro]

Please change the version number in the thread title. Thx

[Kankkis]

Funnily enough i had to go the oposite way, from unlimited to high :D but fixed that problem so im happy :) also the texture change did wonders over london, nice and smooth low over buildings :D awsome stuff that, thanks for the heads up :D

Yeah, all who have bad stutter over London, try lower your texture quality by one notch, made my game smooth over London. When i lowered it i can raise other things without performance loss.

[JG53Frankyboy]

This is what I did (WIN 7):

--Started the game and re-assigned all my controls and settings.



THIS , for sure, i dont want do !!!
Perhaps it is possible to copy the settings via WordPad (or similar programm) in the than new conf file ??

and what is so different in the new one.

As i said, to configurate the controls and infowindow is a lot of hassle with this game (i also have the complete bombercontrols mapped !) !!
And before i will do that again i want know why i should do that exactly !!


btw, if you are start a mission on the ground with a 109, is your pitch also going automaticaly and unstopable to full coarse. And than you have to set it to full fine before start ? just beeing curious.

[Insuber]

I don't see what's strange, seems to be working great. You have a 3gb card according to your specs, so the game is using the VRAM available to the best of it's ability. Why have 3gb of VRAM and not use it? On my 1.2gb card the game consistently uses 1-1.1gb of VRAM.

Thank you for the explanation Urufu! I remember users with 2GB VRAM reporting a max load of 1.5 MB, I believed that this was the game ceiling.

Cheers,
Insuber

[hockeywarrior]

I've been having this really nasty problem since the last two patches (the beta, and now the official release) where my FPS will be up in normal ranges (around 20-30 FPS) and then suddenly drop into the single digits, regardless of what direction I'm looking or whether I'm flying over ground. Before these recent patches I did NOT have this problem. It seems like just when things are working another patch comes around to screw everything up for me performance-wise.

It's almost like there's a memory leak. Anyone else having this issue? It makes the game completely unplayable for me. I could reinstall but I don't have a very fast internet connection and redownloading the game could take a very long time.

I'll also put this in a thread in the Technical Problems forum.

My relevant specs:

Windows 7 Ultimate
Intel i7 930 2.8 ghz (stock clock) quad-core
Geforce GTX 260 896 MB (overclocked to 675 ghz)
Rosewill 600W PSU
1 TB HD
6 GB ADATA DDR3 RAM

[Sauf]

I've been having this really nasty problem since the last two patches (the beta, and now the official release) where my FPS will be up in normal ranges (around 20-30 FPS) and then suddenly drop into the single digits, regardless of what direction I'm looking or whether I'm flying over ground. Before these recent patches I did NOT have this problem. It seems like just when things are working another patch comes around to screw everything up for me performance-wise.

It's almost like there's a memory leak. Anyone else having this issue? It makes the game completely unplayable for me. I could reinstall but I don't have a very fast internet connection and redownloading the game could take a very long time.

I'll also put this in a thread in the Technical Problems forum.

My relevant specs:

Windows 7 Ultimate
Intel i7 930 2.8 ghz (stock clock) quad-core
Geforce GTX 260 896 MB (overclocked to 675 ghz)
Rosewill 600W PSU
1 TB HD
6 GB ADATA DDR3 RAM

Atros posted this earlier;
"btw. Check that you do not have vsync ON in both game and drivers. It should be switched on only in one place. This mistake of mine killed performance for me as soon as they introduced fullscreen.

Triple buffering should be forced ON with a 3rd party utility if you use vsync or your fps would jump from 15 to 30 fps and back very often"

[Kankkis]

Yeah, all who have bad stutter over London, try lower your texture quality by one notch, made my game smooth over London. When i lowered it i can raise other things without performance loss.

But what is weird, i have it orginal setting with beta patch but after latest official patch my london stutters like hell, but now i lowered it high and it's smooth again.

[jimbop]

This is what I did (WIN 7):

-Go to C:\Users\YOURNAME\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover
-Deleted all .ini files
-Started the game and re-assigned all my controls and settings.

The result is worth it :)

confuser.ini is just key mappings - pretty sure this would be safe to leave as the old version. Definitely worth trying to update the other .ini files though.

[Orpheus]

Some odd stuff here. I installed Cat 11.5 as per the hotpatch instructions, even uninstalled and redownloaded a fresh game install from steam - all fine. Quick play about in the game, everything as it was, no problems. Go to CCC to enable Xfire to see if it works... and it's already on!

Default of course after a new driver install (I forgot all about that), but wow, crossfire worked! Went back in, tried a level - almost smooth, nearly all the stutter gone. Brilliant! Remarked to my mate about over steam as he was testing the patch too.. loaded another level...

bang, massive performance drop. After some testing, it seems that the first quick level I load post patch with xfire enabled gets decent xfire performance (stable 30-45, almost no stutter, prefs a notch or two higher than normal). The next, and any subsequent levels I load then revert to the traditional crossfire result: fps spiking from 5-20 average, massive stutters and loading pauses etc. Quit out of the game completely, reload and the first level will get good performance again - until I load another level, when it all goes bad.

Anyone had similar?

Also new prop is nice! Thanks team. :)

[Rattlehead]

The past two days have been glorious. :)
First, the official patch doubled the performance over London for me, but a sticking point was over industrial areas I was still getting single digit framerates.

This hotfix seems to have totally cured that up for me, and again the performance has more than doubled, and sometimes tripled or even quadrupled for me over this previous 'no fly zone.'
Kudos chaps.

I'm also really liking this new prop pitch method for the 109.

This might be a placebo effect, but I could swear at certain low rpms I could see the 109 prop more clearly than before.
It could be my imagination though...

All in all I couldn't be happier with the way things are developing.

[JG14_Jagr]

It's almost like there's a memory leak.


Thats not a memory leak, a memory leak occurs when memory that is used by the game is not released when its no longer needed and you eventually run out of memory and boom..

[hockeywarrior]

Thats not a memory leak, a memory leak occurs when memory that is used by the game is not released when its no longer needed and you eventually run out of memory and boom..Well because the game runs smooth for a few minutes then suddenly drops, it DOES feel like a memory leak, but much faster.

[Kankkis]

Some odd stuff here. I installed Cat 11.5 as per the hotpatch instructions, even uninstalled and redownloaded a fresh game install from steam - all fine. Quick play about in the game, everything as it was, no problems. Go to CCC to enable Xfire to see if it works... and it's already on!

Default of course after a new driver install (I forgot all about that), but wow, crossfire worked! Went back in, tried a level - almost smooth, nearly all the stutter gone. Brilliant! Remarked to my mate about over steam as he was testing the patch too.. loaded another level...

bang, massive performance drop. After some testing, it seems that the first quick level I load post patch with xfire enabled gets decent xfire performance (stable 30-45, almost no stutter, prefs a notch or two higher than normal). The next, and any subsequent levels I load then revert to the traditional crossfire result: fps spiking from 5-20 average, massive stutters and loading
pauses etc. Quit out of the game completely, reload and the first level will get good performance again - until I load another level, when it all goes bad.

Anyone had similar? Was maybe thinking memory leak here too..

Also new prop is nice! Thanks team. :)

Yeah, i got similar problem, i go to crosscountry first, i got steady 60 fps with vsync, real smooth gameplay, then i load london sightseen, fly there sometime, go back to crosscountry again and i got below 40fps.

Today i lowered my texture quality from orginal to high and got smooth flight over london, so i dont yet tested how it works now because lowering textures give us more memory.

When i got 60fps i have really smooth gameplay, but when it goes about 40 its not so smooth, i mean its smooth but there is little rubberband efect what i dont see at 60fps.

I got ati 5970, single card but crossfire card.

[Tbag]

THIS , for sure, i dont want do !!!
btw, if you are start a mission on the ground with a 109, is your pitch also going automaticaly and unstopable to full coarse. And than you have to set it to full fine before start ? just beeing curious.

Yes, I have a similar problem with the PP. But it doesn't go to full coarse in my case, it stops in the 9:00 position.

[AARPRazorbacks]

Just implanted the hot fix into my PC in the US of A. Rolling out on the tarmac to starte looking for some trolls.:grin:


Sir luthier , This song reminds me of this sim and the patches. Like it or not where addicted to Love (CLoD) thanks for the kiss. :)

flyer01~S~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcATvu5f9vE

Some of you need to move to the new world called the USof A and download the patches. :)
This patch has made my CLoD run better then ever. Lets move on and get more planes and mission and things like that .:)

flyer01

Intel core Duo E8600 @ 3.33GHz
Ram 4GB
550 watt power supply
Video card GTX 470 1280 MB GDDR5
MOBO- Gigabyte GA-EP45_UD3P
Duel partition
Windows XP Pro 32bit.
Windows 7 64 bit.
CoD in W-7 64 bit
Fraps
x52
MSWFF Pro 2
TIR5
Monitor- HP-19, HP-24 or a VIZIO 42in screen.
Turtle Beach Gaming Headset and Mic.

[Rattlehead]

Yes, I have a similar problem with the PP. But it doesn't go to full coarse in my case, it stops in the 9:00 position.

Funny, mine stops at the 8:30 position.

Anyway, the prop on the 109 is definitely more visible now, especially on idle and once one approaches 1500 rpm or lower.
Loving it.

[Norseman]

Version: 1.01.14588

Much better here now.
First "launcher-no crash patch" here :-)
Tested mp in "Syndicate" server. Dunno if that was updated..
Was escorting Wellington`s and they were shot down one by one
but I could never see any enemy's...
-a frustrating mission..lol
a BIG ~S~ on the progress !

[kakkola]

Luthier,
With this hotfix i have a black screen and crash to desktop!!!!
WTF!!!!!!!!!!

[Ali Fish]

tonight whilst in sp, ive had some server message errors about loading chunks of land. and they are not loading very well for me with this new land load system. sorry cant be more specific.

still got launcher crashes but only when i push the system it seems, many times ive just killed the processes. on another occasion it seems it was about a 5 minuite stutter. thats 1 lasting 5 minuites lol. it does seem better though especially after completely deleting the 1C Softclub folder.

[Capt Backasswards]

:-D

Good job guys.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Guess they couldn't resist one last patch before the end of the world later to day!

See ya guys it's been a blast! Now how do I convince my wifew to let me spend my last few hours playing CoD? ;)

[JG14_Jagr]

Luthier,
With this hotfix i have a black screen and crash to desktop!!!!
WTF!!!!!!!!!!

Looking at your previous posts you've never had it running right.. How about posting your SPECS and what settings you are trying to run.. Luthier cannot magically tell you why YOUR PC is not running the game and almost everyone elses is, unless you give some details..

[JG14_Jagr]

Well because the game runs smooth for a few minutes then suddenly drops, it DOES feel like a memory leak, but much faster.

Thats not what a memory leak does, a pause or a freeze up like that is not how a memory leak acts.. typically once you start seeing the performance issues the game is on its way to crashing..

[hockeywarrior]

Thats not what a memory leak does, a pause or a freeze up like that is not how a memory leak acts.. typically once you start seeing the performance issues the game is on its way to crashing.. What I mean is that it is similar to a memory leak issue in that it will be running fine and then eventually your FPS gets worse and worse until its unplayable, often culminating in a total lockup or crash.

In this case, there isn't really a transition to the super low performance -- it just "hits" and then it stays there for a bit or for good until I restart the game. So what I'm saying is that the end result is the same, even if it doesn't act exactly like a memory leak.

Usually the first time I hop in game it works fine for the first 5 minutes or so, then will suddenly dip into the single digits for no reason. It then occasionally "pops" back into normal FPS, but eventually gets stuck in single digits until I restart the game. If I quit a mission and restart it, more often than not it will START in "low fps" mode right from the beginning.

[kakkola]

Ok!
I verified integrity of the game with steam and it works now!!!!
Still low performance above buildings.......oh well....!!!!!!
Thx for the replay JG14_Jagr!!!!!!!

[roadczar]

Here is something weird. At default medium settings my frame rates range 50-60. If I change anything like lowering amount of buildings from medium to low my average FPS drops below 25! :rolleyes:

(and yes I did restart the sim)

[kakkola]

JG14_Jagr,
To be honest is running decently now after integrity bla bla bla!!!!
Everithing medium settings except effect and texture on high
Screen 1440x900
Win 7
Phenom 3.4 ghz
gtx 570 1280mb
8 gig ram

[naz]

I can't make a new clean install from DVD. As soon as I start the setup.exe I get connected to Steam and forced to download the all game although the DVD is inserted. It totaly ignores the DVD in the drive.

I bought the DVD version as I have a 2MB connection only....

Good night.



To fix this issue a quick search of Steam would have given you this answer;
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5357-FSQM-0382

Installing from Disc instead of Steam
Question

I try to install my retail game from the included disc(s), but the game begins downloading through Steam instead. What can be done?
Answer

Using Steam launch options to install retail games from disc

1. Log in to Steam and click on Library.
2. Right-click on the game, select Delete local content, and confirm.
3. Insert the first disc into your computer.
4. Close Steam (Steam > Exit).
5. Press Windows Key + R to open Run
6. In the Run window type:

"C:\Program Files\Steam\Steam.exe" -install E:

Replace E: with the CD/DVD drive you are installing from if is not correct.
Replace C:\Program Files\Steam if your Steam installation is not in the default location.
7. Press OK. Steam will launch and ask you to sign in if you do not have your password saved. Your installation should continue from the disc.

Its a common enough issue with Steam games.

[Spinnetti]

"By popular demand, enemy indicator arrows will now only appear in the no-cockpit
view, and will not show up when the cockpit is turned on, i.e. work they did in
the original Il-2 games."

Thank God! that was a game killer for me!

[Skoshi Tiger]

Ok!
I verified integrity of the game with steam and it works now!!!!
Still low performance above buildings.......oh well....!!!!!!
Thx for the replay JG14_Jagr!!!!!!!

Check to see if the iupdate has reset the ant Epilpsy filter. It did for me.

[smink1701]

Game is running very nicely in most all respects...but...still getting some big blocks of graphic glitches in the water. Not alway, but random.

[KDN]

I see those random graphic glitches over water too.

[Khamsin]

Anyone else seeing that prop pitch is reversed on the 109 (according to the key commands) now?

Compare a Spitfire and a 109 .... the command 'Decrease Pitch' decreases pitch in the Spit, but actually increases pitch in the 109.

Which means if, like me, you fly both the 109 and British aircraft from time to time, you have to have two separate joystick configs to avoid confusion.

I swear the devs are trying to make it harder for us ;)

[White Owl]

I like the new propeller visuals, but have to report a bug. Flying inside a cloud makes my entire screen flash and strobe like I'm at a rave.

[ARGH]

the propellar does not appear right to me. its like it spaz's out. instead of being a constant ring pleasantly to look at, it instead just apears one second and disapears the next in a spaz-fasion.:confused:

[timholt]

I am still getting lock ups requiring task manager exit when doing ground attacks.

Edit on the above: I normally fly either a Hurricane or a spit and when attcking vehicle columns the game will lock up normally on the second pass as soon as I start firing.

I just changed the FMB mission to a 109 strafing a couple of Brit fuel colums, got spectacular explosions (flew straight through them) and did numerous passes without a lock up. An enigma I would love an explanation for.

Also mirrors are still a physadelic mess.

Sound still dropping out occasionally.

Keeps asking me to change out of Aero.

[2033cyborg]

i don't understand some of the complaints... what do you mean by the patch numb staying the same? as soon the patch came out it changes... so far i have not once had a problem with steam patches download for cod and it goes fast i mean i open my game and my new version is already installed...i have try the full screen and so far haven't experience black stripe but maybe it happens only with MP...

[drewpee]

Guess they couldn't resist one last patch before the end of the world later to day!

See ya guys it's been a blast! Now how do I convince my wifew to let me spend my last few hours playing CoD? ;)

Very funny and a bit sad. End of the world and here we are ClOD junkys fidlin and playin to the end. Just glad I got a wife and had kids before ClOD or it would be a very lonely quiet place around here. (mmmm quiet,more time for ClOD).:lol:

[Ibis]

Great improvement, thanks team.

[GOZR]

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp344/GOZR/shot_20110520_223338.jpg

This is what i have now ..

AM i the only one that think the UK pilot is just flugly !!
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp344/GOZR/shot_20110520_220758.jpg

AA is just horrible.. x8

[Kankkis]

Here is something weird. At default medium settings my frame rates range 50-60. If I change anything like lowering amount of buildings from medium to low my average FPS drops below 25! :rolleyes:

(and yes I did restart the sim)

I got exatly same behaviour yesterday :grin:

[whoarmongar]

yeah im getting some counter intuitive things on my settings too.
unlimited buildings seem to give better frame rate than low buildings.
Full screen runs better than windowed, or psuedo.

Im not complaining tho, just commenting.

[justme262]

I still don't see my prop in most circumstances. If viewing externally and the prop passes in front of a cloud the prop disappears completely as if it is behind the cloud. Also when passing through a cloud sometimes the whole screen flashes like a strobe light. It seems to flash in time with the engine RPM.

I really would like to see my prop a bit more.

[Prop~Strike]

AM i the only one that think the UK pilot is just flugly !!

That's just the realism of the sim that's all..... all people from the UK are fugly....they can't help it!

Now us Aussies on the other hand......we are ridiculously good looking! :cool:

[mcmatt]

First impression is good. I like propeller look.

I have problems with stalling in Hurry. In IL2 it was more stable (this is not related to last patch, it's from first release). Or is it just me.

[SG1_Lud]

That's just the realism of the sim that's all..... all people from the UK are fugly....they can't help it!

Now us Aussies on the other hand......we are ridiculously good looking! :cool:


LOL!

Now that's genuine british humor

[Blakduk]

I have to agree with PropStrike- i'm an aussie and i'm incredibly handsome. Unfortunately if my visage was put in this game we would be overrun by females in the game and forums, and i come here to get away from the attention.

[Ze-Jamz]

I have to agree with PropStrike- i'm an aussie and i'm incredibly handsome. Unfortunately if my visage was put in this game we would be overrun by females in the game and forums, and i come here to get away from the attention.

And i thought i was alone.....

[Wolf_Rider]

Please put the prop back to how it was, please - pretty please


no real difference between high and low ingame Video settings... maybe 10 - 12 FPS (CHannel and England Free Flight QM) but over London 12 - 30 FPS max (which is to be expected)

[Tiger27]

Anyone else seeing that prop pitch is reversed on the 109 (according to the key commands) now?

Compare a Spitfire and a 109 .... the command 'Decrease Pitch' decreases pitch in the Spit, but actually increases pitch in the 109.

Which means if, like me, you fly both the 109 and British aircraft from time to time, you have to have two separate joystick configs to avoid confusion.

I swear the devs are trying to make it harder for us ;)

Yeh, the animation in cockpit is right now, and clock spins correctly etc, but my lever now goes back for up and vise versa, also teh readout says down when the lever is going up, I still have to set my lever to centre to stop movement, so for me it's the same but a little worse as now I have to remember it is back to front

[Toasted_Toad]

Let's get back to how devilishly handsome us Aussies are. :grin:

I think this should have a sticky post of it's own.

Enough chat, I'm going back to the mirror for another glimpse of perfection.

Cheers,

T_T. :cool:

PS /humour mode off.

[Kankkis]

Couple of things

I'm really happy now to performance but only way i can fly London stutterfree is lower Texture Quality to High, with it i don't get stutter over a london. With Quality i got really bad stutter over london(many sec pauses). Maybe my Videocard memory is not enough.(1gig)actually (2gig but crossfirecard so real totally is 1gig)

Secondly
I use Fraps to check my framerates, i usually go first to Crosscountry, usually i get steady 60FPS when game starts and really stutterfree then. Sometimes when i start the game and go Crosscountry first it go below 40fps and little rubberband effect on low flying, i don't know why, same place, same time and same settings. If i get below 40fps i quit the game and restart, go back to crosscountry and its 60FPS again. I don't know why it behaves like that, is my crossfire card not always works or something similar. It's a luck if it is smooth or not :)

But now i can play and really happy with it. Love new prop.

[Sauf]

Englishman=
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c93/spritzen/item_3774.jpg

Aussie
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c93/spritzen/250px-Chesty_Bond_logo_svg.png

[Ze-Jamz]

Englishman=
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c93/spritzen/item_3774.jpg

Aussie
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c93/spritzen/250px-Chesty_Bond_logo_svg.png

See...how wrong you are,

that is indeed me in the bottom picture...fact! and im English dont you know

Sry..back on Topic

[Tvrdi]

I lost sound twice (in multiplayer)....only restart fixed....anybody else?

[Ze-Jamz]

I lost sound twice (in multiplayer)....only restart fixed....anybody else?

Yes..quite a few times with last retail..annoying to say the least however havent had it yet with the hotfix but have only played for an hour or so...

[Eklund89]

I lost sound twice (in multiplayer)....only restart fixed....anybody else?

sound > device(speakers for me) > properties > advanced > exclusive control unchecked.
This fixed my sound problems what i have tested yet.

[Kankkis]

I lost sound twice (in multiplayer)....only restart fixed....anybody else?

How Tvrdi, do you got AA 2x works with my method yesterday?

I don't have Sound Problems in single player, not tested MP yet but i have USB sounds.

[Insuber]

This game runs very well here. No problems of sound whatsoever, neither in multiplayer nor in SP. Online is a lot of fun except I had a couple of lags while chasing a Spit with my Emil ... But this is the Internet, isn'it :).
I watched a 109 hammering a Spit above Boulogne sur Mer, and enjoyed the beautiful effects of gun smoke, bullet impact and tracers. I peppered a bomber and a large piece blew away tumbling at my side, I'm quite sure I saw the exposed steel frame in it ... Pure visual joy.

Hopefully the worst performance bugs are behind us; let the devs iron up the remaining issues causing troubles to some of us, and then please adjust the plane's FM and add some gameplay content! I've read that the 109 ceiling is 8000 m, I will test it and if true expect a whining havoc on this forum! :)

Cheers,
Insuber

[JG14_Jagr]

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp344/GOZR/shot_20110520_223338.jpg


Wow, your game looks like crap... You should put your actual Specs and settings up so people with similar hardware who have it working nicely could pass along some help.. or just get used to Jaggies and pilots with bad teeth..

[brando]

Englishman=
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c93/spritzen/item_3774.jpg

Englishman? Ha ha ha.... with a red waistcoat, a blue bow-tie and a BLUE umbrella???

More like the doorman at a ritzy French whorehouse. Don't you know that grey is the only colour an Englishman's suit would be when wearing his bowler hat, and that he would only wear either his regimental colours or his old school colours on his tie. And never a bow tie with a bowler. I'm not even convinced that a gentleman would wear his suit jacket unbuttoned.

:p

B

[rakinroll]

Thank you Luthier.

[Insuber]

Gozr, I have a similar artifact. Taken from the black death track:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Insuber/Launcher2011-05-2113-33-04-10.jpg

Cheers,
Insuber

[seaeye]

btw, if you are start a mission on the ground with a 109, is your pitch also going automaticaly and unstopable to full coarse. And than you have to set it to full fine before start ? just beeing curious.

I have the same problem. Anyone know what I can do to sort this out?

[Ali Fish]

I have problems with stalling in Hurry. In IL2 it was more stable (this is not related to last patch, it's from first release). Or is it just me.

ive notivced the hurry is incredibly hard to fly without stalling too.

unrelated to that theres somthing wrong with the sounds, when in 109 its as if the engine is idle when at full revs. and maybe thats to do with the new prop controll. not sure.

[Kankkis]

ive notivced the hurry is incredibly hard to fly without stalling too.

unrelated to that theres somthing wrong with the sounds, when in 109 its as if the engine is idle when at full revs. and maybe thats to do with the new prop controll. not sure.

Check your PP gauge is set to 12.00. PP is working on the wrong way.

[mugen]

Same for me with the PP going automatically to 9 o'clock (for BF109 which i fly nearly exclusivly). Then i can change it back by commands. Annoying but no real prob.
Performance is pretty good, still stutters here and there but less than before. Playing on high preset in MP now.
The most annoying thing to me is now heavy sound stutters which makes the game now nearly unplayable for me in MP, without just muting it.
I tried several things like updating sound drivers (onboard Realtek chip) and this sound exclusive thing in windows device settings but nothing helped for me.
No sound probs in SP, as i already mentioned yesterday.

Kudos to Luthier and Team for this incredible developing progress since release. I'm really impressed and my glass i still half full! :grin:

thx a lot

mugen

[JG53Frankyboy]

Funny, mine stops at the 8:30 position.

.

i can understand that the Pitch wants to go to a basic setting when the game/mission starts on the ground with stopped engine... but could that not be the 12:00 setting please ? What you need anyway when you are starting....................

[Desertowl]

while in MP, no sound from the beginning with occasional stutters of sounds and then silence again.
when i looked at the console i saw a repeating error that FOOT.WAV is missing.

flying with the last hotfix, Q6600@2.4, GTX 560 TI, 6GB ram.

[phoenix1963]

I'll repeat what I posted above, as all do not seem to have seen it:

I've found two switches in Windows: Sounds -> Playback -> [device] -> Properties -> Advanced -> Exclusive Mode
UNCHECK this.
I've tried many servers, sounds are all on.

56RAF_phoenix

[BigPickle]

thanks for the quick fix, but this is grating me, we have to keep making all these sorta system changes just for this game.

[ATAG_Doc]

Check your PP gauge is set to 12.00. PP is working on the wrong way.

Does it act like a 3 position switch now? Before it was a smooth lever but it seems it has a top, middle and bottom. Are you finding this as well?

[Pitti]

Does it act like a 3 position switch now? Before it was a smooth lever but it seems it has a top, middle and bottom. Are you finding this as well?

Yes, now it acts like a 3 position switch but I have to invert my control axis to make it work correctly. Also in the motor info window the prop pitch control slider is inverted. If you raise the rpm, you push the prop pitch contorol up, the slider in the montor info window goes down.

[Blackdog_kt]

as a non native english speaker and a STEAM novice - I personally would like to have a further explanation about this please.
Thx in advance !


THIS , for sure, i dont want do !!!
Perhaps it is possible to copy the settings via WordPad (or similar programm) in the than new conf file ??

and what is so different in the new one.

As i said, to configurate the controls and infowindow is a lot of hassle with this game (i also have the complete bombercontrols mapped !) !!
And before i will do that again i want know why i should do that exactly !!


btw, if you are start a mission on the ground with a 109, is your pitch also going automaticaly and unstopable to full coarse. And than you have to set it to full fine before start ? just beeing curious.


The cloud keeps backups of your configuration files and control settings on some Steam server.

If you have messed up your conf.ini you can enable this and it will restore the backup.

However, doing so will cancel any changes you have made after the last "cloud backup" was done. This is why people lose controls.

What you can do is run the sim, go to options-->controls and click on the "save as" button. This will let you save your controls locally on your disk.

Then you can enable the cloud thing to get your conf.ini to default standards. After this is done (i guess it needs to run and exit the sim once to do it), you can turn it off again.

Finally, you can go once again to options-->controls and press the load button. You'll get a windows pop-up menu asking you where you controls file is, just point it to the location on your hard-disk where you saved it. This will restore all your controls.

Short version:

1) Save your controls from within the game interface on your hard disk
2) Exit the sim, enable cloud.
3) Run and exit the sim to "fix" your configuration files to default standards
4) Load your previously saved controls from within the game interface.


i can understand that the Pitch wants to go to a basic setting when the game/mission starts on the ground with stopped engine... but could that not be the 12:00 setting please ? What you need anyway when you are starting....................

Maybe it's standard operating procedure to feather the prop before shutting everything down? This would prevent windmilling when the aircraft is parked on the ground and the wind blows, which could damage the engine or cause accidents (if the ignition remained to on by accidents).

[ElAurens]

Does it act like a 3 position switch now? Before it was a smooth lever but it seems it has a top, middle and bottom. Are you finding this as well?


The prop pitch control on BF 109s was indeed a three position rocker switch on the control column, and not a lever. Push it one way and the pitch increased, push the other and it decreased. The "hands off" neutral position left it where it was last set.

[Desertowl]

well, I did the trick phoenix1963 suggested, and while making things better, after about 2o min. of flight the sounds were muted again, stuttered for a bit and then utter quietness...

[322Sqn_Dusty]

Overall performance improved slightly.
I'm not able to max out the game visually. The edges aren't smooth, i've seen better visuals in CoD before. Does this relate to Crossfire? Changed all settings one by one to sort it out. Drivers were changed to 11.5.

[Tvrdi]

How Tvrdi, do you got AA 2x works with my method yesterday?

I don't have Sound Problems in single player, not tested MP yet but i have USB sounds.

Hi mate, AA is working now...thanks....sound probs I had online

[mungee]

A big improvement in frame rate - thanks Luthier.

As you were!

I'm now certain that the lastest patch 1.01.14550 has made the stuttering worse - it was good under "medium" settings with the previous patch - now the stuttering is very evident on "medium" settings.

I'm also now getting teh graphic glitches on land and sea (junks of water on land, and land on water, that appear and then disappear).

Sorry, but I believe we've gone backwards with the latest patch.

I must say ... I'm still unbelievably impressed with this sim - I'm confident it will soon be running well. The attention to detail etc is mind-blowing - it's the playability that now needs attention.

[Ivan Fooker]

Well this "FIX" fucked it up again for me.
The screen is flickering from black to ingame back to desktop and it takes ages to kill the game via taskmanager.
Not able to get into the game for playing.


However this is my system:
I7-920@3.01ghz;HD5870VaporX;6gig Ram;Win7-64bit. cat 11.3
Playing on Fullscreen,1680x1020(?)...one below FullHD at least.

I will check to get a log file i can send to Luther.

-> Fullscreen fucked up since latest fix for me! Back to "Pseudo" Mode
.....dont get a PR Manager,...save the money for a one more programmer...lol!

Positive:
the PP is working on keys aswell as on axis.
performance seems to be slightly better ~ 2-4fps.

[Tvrdi]

OK finally I had more time to test....aand..its much better now. Online that is. On my rig CLOD runs great (most settings at high, grass and shadows off) now. Sounds is ok now as I tried what somebody suggested with my sound settings in win7. Altough it was pretty slow when i was looking with max zoom flying over trees. All in all, at least now I have hope LOL.

[Gromic]

...Sounds is ok now as I tried what somebody suggested with my sound settings in win7....

Got a Link? Haven't got a chance to read all new posts since 2 days.

Cheers

[Ivan Fooker]

I am noticing little "knix & knax" before firing the MgFF or the 20mm.

Flying with the PP is really great now! Congratz on that fix!
A bit annoying it is initially on 10:50 (?)...at least not at 12:00h.

[Blackdog_kt]

I think it starts with a pitch for low RPM due to having airstart missions in the QMB.

The new pitch control is awesome (even though it's currently reversed, pressing the key command that raises the RPM on other aircraft actually lowers my RPM in the DB equipped ones), more historically accurate and more precise, but it also has a realistic limit on how fast it changes and that makes it slower than before.

If we were starting a QMB mission on the 12:00 position it might over-rev the engine before we could bring it under control. We would have to chop the throttle to contain this and in QMB it's not really practical to deny yourself speed at the initial merge.

Actually, 9:50 is pretty close to the cruise setting i use (10:10) and the spawning speed is close enough, so i just advance it to 10:10 and increase RPMs only if i want to climb after the initial merge.

[dflion]

PCconfigDFLion
OpSys: Win7pro 64bit
Processor: Intel Core2 Extreme Q6850 @3.00Ghz
Ram: 8GB Corsair
Video card: ATI HD4870x2
Display: Benq24 1920x1200 (59Hz)
Direct X: DirectX11
Sound: Creative SB X-FI

After flying 5 missions at 60fps +-, the fps started to drop away to 32fps, then down to 17-20fps. Then suddenly the sound cut-out. I restored the sound by getting out of the game then restarting it, though the fps was still low at 17-20fps.

Another observation flying at 60fps, as soon as I (CTRL'd F2) to another aircraft the fps dropped to 32fps and stayed there, then gradually dropped away to 17-20fps.

With this version I noticed some graphic issues, mainly over the sea, though their were some on the land - see thumbnails attached.

When flying a mission with German aircraft taking-off at the same time as you (in Spitfire) there is another dramatic drop in fps. Several members have mentioned some type of 'memory leak'. I think the RAM is being used effectively at the beginning of the mission, then for some reason it is staying used and not renewing its full capacity as the mission progresses, which ultimately drags down the fps.

I have tweaked my ATI Catalyst 3D controls to get the best fps 60-70+fps, then the whole fps gradually dies while flying the missions.

To compare fps, I flew a few missions in IL-2 1946 - 140-170fps during flight and 450fps in the mission selection screens? Ilya and team, these are the fps target rates you have got to eventually try and get to?

DFLion

[dflion]

Quote from Luthier

"If you experience sub-par performance or unexpected artifacts please update your graphic
drivers to the latest version.
ATI Cards:
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloa...downloads.aspx
NVidia Cards:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
Additionally, if you have disabled Cloud Synchronization for config files, you may be playing
a game with an obsolete controls config. Please back up and delete your old file and reenable Cloud Synchronization to grab a latest stock version"

I forgot to mention in my previous post that I have upgraded to the latest ATI graphic drivers.

I find 'Steam' to be very insidious (proceeding inconspicuously but with harmful effect). Sadly I wish for the good old IL-2 Sturmovik Days when you just posted a patch through Mission4Today. Steam seems to pervade your computer from every direction and you can't communicate with it. It might be good for your security and reporting on member useage/statistics etc. though for me with a wireless broadband with 3GB, its a pain!

Ilya (or team member) could you very kindly explain a little more about the how 'Cloud' works in 'Steam' and if we get an automatic 'Steam' upgrade with the 'Cloud' sychronization automatically upgrading the 'controls config.'?

DFLion

[dougandtoni]

Quote from Luthier

"If you experience sub-par performance or unexpected artifacts please update your graphic
drivers to the latest version.
ATI Cards:
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloa...downloads.aspx
NVidia Cards:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
Additionally, if you have disabled Cloud Synchronization for config files, you may be playing
a game with an obsolete controls config. Please back up and delete your old file and reenable Cloud Synchronization to grab a latest stock version"

I forgot to mention in my previous post that I have upgraded to the latest ATI graphic drivers.

I find 'Steam' to be very insidious (proceeding inconspicuously but with harmful effect). Sadly I wish for the good old IL-2 Sturmovik Days when you just posted a patch through Mission4Today. Steam seems to pervade your computer from every direction and you can't communicate with it. It might be good for your security and reporting on member useage/statistics etc. though for me with a wireless broadband with 3GB, its a pain!

Ilya (or team member) could you very kindly explain a little more about the how 'Cloud' works in 'Steam' and if we get an automatic 'Steam' upgrade with the 'Cloud' sychronization automatically upgrading the 'controls config.'?

DFLion

Yeah what i can not work out is Luthier says "Additionally, if you have disabled Cloud Synchronization for config files, you may be playing
a game with an obsolete controls config. Please back up and delete your old file and reenable Cloud Synchronization to grab a latest stock version" So why back up your old file or more to the pont if you back it up when do you get to reuse it. Seems to me they are clutching at straws here

[GOZR]

Cliffs Of Dover Retail Patch v 1.01.14588.....

[dflion]

GOZR - I've just signed-up on your web site - very impressive. I will post my 'issues' on your site shortly and see what your community has to say, thanks.
DFLion

[Tvrdi]

Got a Link? Haven't got a chance to read all new posts since 2 days.

Cheers

Windows: Sounds -> Playback -> [device] -> Properties -> Advanced -> Exclusive Mode
UNCHECK this.

kudos to Phoenix

[whatnot]

So a few thoughts:

- London FPS test, all settings more or less maxed out except buildings on medium @ 1920 x 1200: Smoother than before! Getting about 30-35 fps flying low level with no stutters. Haven't had much problems before either.

- Full screen works nicely for me

- AI pilots on some still wacos especially on larger planes, not sure if that was tweaked much though with this release

- Tried MP on a german server: worked ok with no fps or stutter issues. Had some hickups / stuttering on sounds though that popped in and out every 5 mins or so. Haven't cleared any caches or done any other tricks are posted..

- Hung once after joining MP server when selecting the army (chose a plane first, not sure if there's a connection). Had to cold start my pc.

- The briefing & plane customization screens finally before a mission are a godsend! Missed a zoom on the map though, is there one?

So overall a good release for me so thanks a lot for your efforts!

Tell me what would be a good MP server for a european? I'm getting 250-350 pings to Syndicate and the rest in Europe (with 6-7 players) had ppl just speaking german on them. Would love to find a way to join MP, hook up TS or something with a few random pilots to fly a formation without being a part of a clan or whatever.

Is that doable?

[BobTuck]

Thanks for the continued updates

BobTuck.

[David198502]

ok!my summary of the hotfix patch and enableing cloud snyc in steam!

i dont know what exactly happened, but i wanted to be sure to have a vanilla version,so i deleted the game,and reinstalled it.
although i didnt change much in the gamefiles,except the conf.ini file,where i set processaffinitymask to 3 instead of my default 2.and i put my joysticksettings from my old il21946 conf.ini file into the new one from cliffs of dover.but thats it.i didnt change anything else.
now after reinstalling the game,there is no processafinitymask anymore in my conf.ini file.
i only put in my joysettings from il2,but didnt touch anything else.

but somehow now the damage model and the plane models look far more detailed then it looked before.at least thats my impression after an hour of gaming now.that really impressed me.
also the buildings seem to have more detailis.and everything with keeping the same settings as i had before deleting the game.

the only downside is that i have pretty bad stutters.some more than 5seconds(screen totally freezes)!they are even worse than the first version of the game!london is unplayable for me again.though the fps are pretty the same now as with the beta version(maybe a bit less).but they jump up and down when im above a city or near some buildings,even if its only a small village.the problem with the fps drop and freezes only occurs if i change my view.i have trackir and if i look right or left,the the screen freezes and fps drop dramatically.if i hold my view steady,then the game seems to have a steady performance.

but two things i really like:
the new prop visuals!
and the handling with the prop pitch!its much more accurate and more workload now which i like!!

[flyingblind]

The map zoom is scroll bar on left or mouse wheel.

I really feel for the guys having problems running this game. I count myself incredibly lucky that I find it just gets better with each update. The last hotfix has given me smooth, steady game play with no nasty graphical anomalties and glitches apart from a little flickering flying through white cloud and very slight tree shadow flickering. Fps are a bit low and patchy over London, especially attacking bombers but then I don't have a top end system. I have everything at maximum except for SSAO on and mirrors off and probably average 30 to 40 fps.
Everyone is running the same code yet some have endless problems whilst others just don't seem to. It seems the difference must lie somewhere in the configuration of the different systems and or the hardware used. I am not saying the problems are the fault of the people who are struggling as a PC game should run on any PC given its specs are high enough. I am sure the developers are doing this but I think it is important to correlate problems encountered with system specs and setups to try and find common causes and effects. Just to say the game is crap is pointless because in a lot of cases it obviously isn't.
I really hope they can get these issues nailed soon so they can move onto other stuff like replacing placeholders etc. etc.

[Rolltide88]

[QUOTE=flyingblind;287277]The map zoom is scroll bar on left or mouse wheel.

I really feel for the guys having problems running this game. I count myself incredibly lucky that I find it just gets better with each update. The last hotfix has given me smooth, steady game play with no nasty graphical anomalties and glitches apart from a little flickering flying through white cloud and very slight tree shadow flickering.

I'm running the game on a baseline 21.5 inch 2011 iMac in Windows 7 and I rarely have any issues. I mostly get hiccups when flak is present. I can fly all day over London on medium settings and it is absolutely gorgeous. Then I read about people with much higher specs that have problems over the channel. Makes no sense.

I'm glad you posted that about the map zoom, it was driving me crazy.

[TomcatViP]

Anyone else seeing that prop pitch is reversed on the 109 (according to the key commands) now?

Compare a Spitfire and a 109 .... the command 'Decrease Pitch' decreases pitch in the Spit, but actually increases pitch in the 109.

Which means if, like me, you fly both the 109 and British aircraft from time to time, you have to have two separate joystick configs to avoid confusion.

I swear the devs are trying to make it harder for us ;)


Yeah I had the same issue. My pitch prop was actually ctrld by a slider of my Cougar throttle and it went back to normal after affecting buttons to ctrl the coarse.

However the speed at which you can ctrl the prop pitch is much to slow to counter the engine behavior. It tends to let us fly constantly at a too slow tune (hanging on the prop in climb) or cte over reeves in dive.

I guess that the amount of increase at each click hve to be altered ?

Anyway, congrats to devs for this much expected patch :grin:

[Space Communist]

The map zoom is scroll bar on left or mouse wheel.

I really feel for the guys having problems running this game. I count myself incredibly lucky that I find it just gets better with each update. The last hotfix has given me smooth, steady game play with no nasty graphical anomalties and glitches apart from a little flickering flying through white cloud and very slight tree shadow flickering. Fps are a bit low and patchy over London, especially attacking bombers but then I don't have a top end system. I have everything at maximum except for SSAO on and mirrors off and probably average 30 to 40 fps.
Everyone is running the same code yet some have endless problems whilst others just don't seem to. It seems the difference must lie somewhere in the configuration of the different systems and or the hardware used. I am not saying the problems are the fault of the people who are struggling as a PC game should run on any PC given its specs are high enough. I am sure the developers are doing this but I think it is important to correlate problems encountered with system specs and setups to try and find common causes and effects. Just to say the game is crap is pointless because in a lot of cases it obviously isn't.
I really hope they can get these issues nailed soon so they can move onto other stuff like replacing placeholders etc. etc.

I am in your boat, every patch better than the last. However I must have less faith in humanity, since I am pretty sure that a heck of a lot of the whining on these forums are cases of PEBKAC.

[LcSummers]

Hi,

this hotfix is for me a step backward. I have to disable clouds and shadows, it worked well with the beta patch. Now i have to lower some texture /environment details too. More stutters than previous patch, sometimes crashes. Game is a new installation.

These are my first tests with the new patch. Propellor is fine, had an engine hit and engine stoped working in the Spit. Really beautiful this new animation.

[Blackdog_kt]

Yeah I had the same issue. My pitch prop was actually ctrld by a slider of my Cougar throttle and it went back to normal after affecting buttons to ctrl the coarse.

However the speed at which you can ctrl the prop pitch is much to slow to counter the engine behavior. It tends to let us fly constantly at a too slow tune (hanging on the prop in climb) or cte over reeves in dive.

I guess that the amount of increase at each click hve to be altered ?

Anyway, congrats to devs for this much expected patch :grin:

You have to keep the button pressed to make any noticeable pitch changes, because they are driven by an electric motor. According to a link posted here a couple of weeks ago, the pitch control system on the DB605 could turn the blades a mere 1.5 degrees per second, so it wasn't really fast in reality.

I haven't tested if this matches what we have in the sim, but the engines are different as well (we have DB601s) so there could be differences. Also, 10 minutes on the clock instrument corresponds to 1 degree, so if you keep the button pressed and you see it turning 15 minutes per second it would match the specs of the DB605 system.

The link is here: http://marseillegruppe.com/foro/viewtopic.php?p=2954&sid=3591268e7829c1e00ff328cb9d3b84f4

[Winger]

OK i tried lots of more sorties and in MP i ALWAYS get the soundbug sooner or later. 1C REALLY has to fix that bug with a hotfix since its a major gamebreaker. Not just for me.

Winger

[Kankkis]

OK i tried lots of more sorties and in MP i ALWAYS get the soundbug sooner or later. 1C REALLY has to fix that bug with a hotfix since its a major gamebreaker. Not just for me.

Winger

If you have usb headset or headphones try them, i dont have problems with usb headset. Then it doesent use soundcard at all.

[Tvrdi]

OK i tried lots of more sorties and in MP i ALWAYS get the soundbug sooner or later. 1C REALLY has to fix that bug with a hotfix since its a major gamebreaker. Not just for me.

Winger

you did this?

in Windows control panel: hardware and sound-> Sounds -> Playback -> [device] -> Properties -> Advanced -> Exclusive Mode
UNCHECK this.

[Steuben]

yes Tvrdi tried this and it did not help!

[Winger]

Yes Tvrdi, i tried. Didnt help.
Thanks

Winger

[phoenix1963]

you did this?

in Windows control panel: hardware and sound-> Sounds -> Playback -> [device] -> Properties -> Advanced -> Exclusive Mode
UNCHECK this.

Sorry Chaps, I thought it worked, but longer testing shows it doesn't.

56RAF_phoenix

[Sauf]

On at least 2 occasions when I lost sound it seemed to happen at the same time that a msg flashed on screen warning of an incoming bomber raid (SYN), so thought that was the problem, but since then have lost it for no apparent reason.

S`

[Blakduk]

Sorry Chaps, I thought it worked, but longer testing shows it doesn't.

56RAF_phoenix
I tried this fix as well- it made no difference for me. Still losing sounds at unpredictable times.

[_79_dev]

~S~

Try to lower down sound quality in control panel, you probably have 98kHz set, it's way too high, you are not even able to hear difference if set to 44kHz, I dont have issue with loosing sound but always may help...

[Tiger27]

I am in your boat, every patch better than the last. However I must have less faith in humanity, since I am pretty sure that a heck of a lot of the whining on these forums are cases of PEBKAC.

Im the same it gets better with each full patch, I have had some set backs with some of the betas, I tend to agree with a your last comment as well, just the config.ini thing will be causing a lot of problems, the new ini files are a lot different to the old, so anyone that has turned cloud save off will be stuck with an old incompatible file, I had some issues with crashing with this patch, until I followed Luthiers advice and downloaded the proper file, it was a pain because I had to redo my settings, but I havent had any issues since doing this.

[Tiger27]

Just wondering, if all the people with sound problems are running seperate cards or onboard sound, must be some reason that many have this issue while the rest dont.

[Blakduk]

Tiger- I'm running onboard sound and getting sound problems with the most recent patch when i'm online.
Offline i dont have the same problem.

[timholt]

Just wondering, if all the people with sound problems are running seperate cards or onboard sound, must be some reason that many have this issue while the rest dont.

Onboard sound and getting the occasional loss of sound. Sometimes it comes back, others require a restart.

[roadczar]

Losing sound with Creative SB X-Fi as well.

[Kankkis]

Luthier and Devs,

Check link below, tripled on my Crossfire framerate. Steady 60FPS over london and really smooth.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?p=287599&posted=1#post287599

[Cdr84]

Sound problem there with onboard sound (Realtek).

No problem with old Soundblaster Audigy, btw it works with everything every time .

Improvement in all of the video problem areas.

Cdr

Q6600@3.0Ghz
Nvidia GTX580
4gb DDR2 ram
Win7 64bit

[GOZR]

So what do you think ? no need of words.

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp344/GOZR/clod.jpg
vs.
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp344/GOZR/rof-1.jpg

[Wolf_Rider]

nice work Gozr...

what is really need though is for the bits and pieces to be working properly first - such as selectable weathering and loadout to be active in the QMB, for the Loadout section to be working properly... ie select Default or any Custom built belts/ gun assign and have that reflected in the gun assignment box, same for fuel (I haven't looked at bombs yet, but I assume there is grief there too)

[phoenix1963]

I have the sound problem with a Creative X-Fi.

All my squadmates have the same problem, most use on-board sound.

The only common factor is, I think, we all use Win7 64 bit. But that doesn't mean it's related to the problem, of course.

Intel Q9550 at stock speed
Asus P5KC mobo
6 GB RAM
XFX AMD 6950 2GB flashed to a 6970, underclocked back to 6950 speeds
Win7 Pro 64 bit
Creative X-Fi with community 64 bit driver (ugh, Creative)

56RAF_phoenix

[Insuber]

Sound problem in MP here as well. It arrives after an unpredictable amount of time (from 1 h to 15 minutes). A lot of people online report the same issue.
I have an onboard Realtek audio (mobo Gigabyte Z68x-UD4), win 7 64. I have unchecked the sound/advanced/exclusive thing, and also changed SoundEngine from 1 to 2 in the conf.ini, to no avail.
Symptoms are always the same:
Sound begins to stutter, without any apparent repetitive pattern, stays broken for several seconds to a minute, then disappears. Sometimes it comes back after 10-15’, always preceded by the usual sound stutter, then usually it ceases again. Sometimes the engine sounds come back, but the gun sounds not.
Very annoying!

Cheers,
Insuber

[Varrattu]

I have the sound problem with a Creative X-Fi.

All my squadmates have the same problem, most use on-board sound.

The only common factor is, I think, we all use Win7 64 bit. But that doesn't mean it's related to the problem, of course.

Intel Q9550 at stock speed
Asus P5KC mobo
6 GB RAM
XFX AMD 6950 2GB flashed to a 6970, underclocked back to 6950 speeds
Win7 Pro 64 bit
Creative X-Fi with community 64 bit driver (ugh, Creative)

56RAF_phoenix

Win7-64 Ultimate, Sound: 24 Bit, 96000 Hz,
Creative SB X-Fi, driver 6.0.1.1348, Creative ALchemy, release 1.41.02, EAX activated,
Ingame CloD: Surround

No stutter, no problems ...

But I wonder if the actual CloD version ( 14588 ) really supports EAX :confused:

S! Varrattu

[phoenix1963]

Win7-64 Ultimate, Sound: 24 Bit, 96000 Hz,
Creative SB X-Fi, driver 6.0.1.1348, Creative ALchemy, release 1.41.02, EAX activated,
Ingame CloD: Surround

No stutter, no problems ...

But I wonder if the actual CloD version ( 14588 ) really supports EAX :confused:

S! Varrattu

Varrattu - Your post wasn't quite clear enough, can you confirm that you get no sound problems in online games? We've the same sound card, so obviously I'm very interested.

56RAF_phoenix

P.S. My understanding was that CloD doesn't use EAX. Oleg was very keen on ambisonic through headphones, I think.

[F16_Neo]

Still not possible to switch seats without engines go cold.:rolleyes:

[JG14_Jagr]

To compare fps, I flew a few missions in IL-2 1946 - 140-170fps during flight and 450fps in the mission selection screens? Ilya and team, these are the fps target rates you have got to eventually try and get to?
DFLion

I'm sure they are, but it won't be on your rig, and it wont be this year. You did notice that the game engine is MASSIVELY more complex graphically AND in complexity??? You're not in IL2 1946 anymore Dorothy..

[Positronic]

Game is running very nicely now, but while it used to be stable before this last patch & hotfix now It is locking up, ctrl - alt - dlt and it's listed as non responding

[David198502]

for me unfortunately the stutters increased much since the last official patch.
with the beta patch i could fly over london almost smooth and only minor stutters.now the screen freezes for 5-10seconds(and not only once).its unplayable again.luthiers suggestion,to set buildings detail to high or lower doesnt help either.
i have squares of green and brown all over the map.fps dropped from average 50 to 40 over land.if i want to quit a mission and hit escape,i will see windows desktop(i have to push it about 30times until i see the clod interface again).and all that after a fresh install of the game and with the latest drivers and steam cloud on as suggested by luthier.im pissed

[Varrattu]

Varrattu - Your post wasn't quite clear enough, can you confirm that you get no sound problems in online games? We've the same sound card, so obviously I'm very interested.

56RAF_phoenix

P.S. My understanding was that CloD doesn't use EAX. Oleg was very keen on ambisonic through headphones, I think.

Yes, I get no problems online AND offline. And no problems in surround or ambisonic mode.:-P
As I stated, there is no stutter or other PROBLEM. If there is something like surround sound including EAX is another question.

Regards Varrattu

[klem]

I know this has been posted many times by others but

+1000

PLEASE fix the disappearing sound problem! For me and the guys I fly with its the biggest issue as we have to keep re-starting the game.

The various get-arounds suggested by others haven't fixed the problem.

I've got the latest Nvidia drivers.

ASUS Sabertooth mobo
i7 950 @ 4GHz
6Gb DDR3 RAM
EVGA GTX570 GPU
850W PSU
Coolermaster HAF912+ case
Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium
Samsung 22" 226BW @ 1680 x 1050
X52 HOTAS
X45 miscellaneous controls

[SturmKreator]

for me unfortunately the stutters increased much since the last official patch.
with the beta patch i could fly over london almost smooth and only minor stutters.now the screen freezes for 5-10seconds(and not only once).its unplayable again.luthiers suggestion,to set buildings detail to high or lower doesnt help either.
i have squares of green and brown all over the map.fps dropped from average 50 to 40 over land.if i want to quit a mission and hit escape,i will see windows desktop(i have to push it about 30times until i see the clod interface again).and all that after a fresh install of the game and with the latest drivers and steam cloud on as suggested by luthier.im pissed

What Do you expect? You have a very low end video card.

[Gromic]

I know this has been posted many times by others but

+1000

PLEASE fix the disappearing sound problem! For me and the guys I fly with its the biggest issue as we have to keep re-starting the game.

The various get-arounds suggested by others haven't fixed the problem.

Seconded!

I've also removed exclusive rights for my primary sound device and even reset the complete 1C Softclub folder thinking that it may be an old config file issue or some such. All to no avail BUT I have noticed that the issue only happens (speaking for myself here) when I join servers that have 30-35+ ppl or more flying on it. This is usually the case when flying on the Syndicate server and I get regular sound cut-outs after approx. 10 minutes airtime.

On servers with less people (and therefore presumeably) less strain, the cut-out issue doesn't ensue.

It's also not exclusivly a Realtek problem as some may have suggested. At least 2 of my squadies fly with dedicated creative boards and I myself am using a USB Headphone with builtin DSP as my primary sound device.

The bug wasn't there post 14550.

On the bright side of things, framerates online are now as high as they were in 14413 during single player. Stutters online have been practically alleviated. The visual experience is very enjoyable.

Cheers

[tillobert]

Hey jo, my game shows in the main menu a diffrent number than the official patch number :14588 at the end. Anyone here with the same??

[Ali Fish]

Hey jo, my game shows in the main menu a diffrent number than the official patch number :14588 at the end. Anyone here with the same??

yes mine shows 14588, they should have named that hotfix thread appropriatly

[Gromic]

Hey jo, my game shows in the main menu a diffrent number than the official patch number :14588 at the end. Anyone here with the same??

14588 should be shown if you have the hotfix for 14550 installed.

Cheers

[O_Smiladon]

Seconded!

I've also removed exclusive rights for my primary sound device and even reset the complete 1C Softclub folder thinking that it may be an old config file issue or some such. All to no avail BUT I have noticed that the issue only happens (speaking for myself here) when I join servers that have 30-35+ ppl or more flying on it. This is usually the case when flying on the Syndicate server and I get regular sound cut-outs after approx. 10 minutes airtime.

On servers with less people (and therefore presumeably) less strain, the cut-out issue doesn't ensue.

It's also not exclusivly a Realtek problem as some may have suggested. At least 2 of my squadies fly with dedicated creative boards and I myself am using a USB Headphone with builtin DSP as my primary sound device.

The bug wasn't there post 14550.

On the bright side of things, framerates online are now as high as they were in 14413 during single player. Stutters online have been practically alleviated. The visual experience is very enjoyable.

Cheers

While you at fixing the sound problem, why not give the sound the proper fix. give us ture to life noise.
O_Smiladon

[Dano]

What Do you expect? You have a very low end video card.

Similar performance to previous beta patch probably instead of being told he has a low end video card, I have the same issues, significant performance hit and far more stutters in comparison to earlier beta patches, I suppose that's to be expected on a mid range system too right?

[Rolltide88]

I saw a blue square in the middle of the cross country map yesterday, just once though. No graphic issues or sound issues, but if I use the joystick to pan around it will randomly move back to center or just below center. Sometimes it will do it, sometimes not.

Also can't move to the gunner positions no matter what button I tag it to.

[ChicoMick]

I have had the blue square west of the 'cross country' take off point since day one, still got it, but it's right on the edge of the map so it hasn't really bothered me.

Apart from that everything's been ok graphics wise, until this latest patch/hotfix.
I never used the betas. Now I have the corrupted sea graphics others have reported, same texture as sandy coastline, extending either as a big rectangle or thin lines. But then sometimes it's fine... !

Also have the prop behind the clouds bug.

[jt_medina]

When I try to record a track the game simply crashes.

[Rolltide88]

Anyone else see ships through clouds?

sorry if this has been posted.

[Blakduk]

Anyone else see ships through clouds?

sorry if this has been posted.

Yes- i've noticed this as well. When viewing them from long range the dot is clearly visible through the clouds. As you get nearer and the dot changes to the model of the ship it almost disappears. It's very distracting.

[LcSummers]

Similar performance to previous beta patch probably instead of being told he has a low end video card, I have the same issues, significant performance hit and far more stutters in comparison to earlier beta patches, I suppose that's to be expected on a mid range system too right?



The same here. More stutters, lowering Land shading, had to disable clouds and shadows.

With beta patch it was playable with shadows and clouds. Landshading was high, now medium.

[Gromic]

While you at fixing the sound problem, why not give the sound the proper fix. give us ture to life noise.
O_Smiladon

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking for but I think it might have something to do with post 16 in this thread:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=23020&page=2

My "fixing the sound problem" would be leaning way to far out of the window. I'm just relaying my experience so far. As mentioned previously, even the "fix" above doesn't work for me completely when I join servers that are heavily flown because, I still get the occasional sound cut-out.

Cheers

[Baron_HPOWER]

But where can i download it ????

[Insuber]

Anyone climbing beyond 7000 m in the 109 E3 with CEM ? I can't, no matter what PP I use.

Cheers,
Insuber

[JOM]

Anyone climbing beyond 7000 m in the 109 E3 with CEM ? I can't, no matter what PP I use.

Cheers,
Insuber

7500 m 2600 rpm here. Pitch 11:30. No problem.

Need to test with less ammo and fuel.

S!

[Insuber]

7500 m 2600 rpm here. Pitch 11:30. No problem.

Need to test with less ammo and fuel.

S!

TY Jom. Even 7500 m is very far from the 11400 m of ceiling found in literature for the 109 E1. Weird. I wonder how could Luthier ever explain this - porked - performance. PORKED!!

(Yeaaaaaah! Afaik I'm the first one here to use the "porked" FM argument! Finally CloD is becoming a real flight sim!) :D

Cheers,
Insuber

[robtek]

Yes porked! And i've already read here that the spit II reaches over 27000 ft.
That makes it red flavoured porked :-D

First blue whiner????

[Insuber]

Luthier, the Spit is much less porked than the 109! Porking must be equal for all! Please pork back the Spit to 22000 ft as it was prior to the latest patch! :D

[klem]

Luthier, the Spit is much less porked than the 109! Porking must be equal for all! Please pork back the Spit to 22000 ft as it was prior to the latest patch! :D

There's nothing wrong with the 109.

It looks fine down there from up here in my Spitfire :)

[Herbs107]

Since hotfix now getting "LAUCHER.EXE CRASH", only happens when changing external views. Which i usually do under auto pilot when returning to base. All that time completeing a mission and it falls over just before landing..Frustrating!!

[Rattlehead]

7500 m 2600 rpm here. Pitch 11:30. No problem.

Need to test with less ammo and fuel.

S!

I got to 7800m earlier, but damn the poor thing was gasping for breath and on the verge of a stall.
Still, it's way better than the herky-jerky effect we had at 3000m+ before.

[Tiger27]

Luthier, the Spit is much less porked than the 109! Porking must be equal for all! Please pork back the Spit to 22000 ft as it was prior to the latest patch! :D

Ah but to balance things out the Spit I and Ia are both porked although to what extent I couldnt say, they are just porked :mrgreen:

[FS~Phat]

Not playable on my system now with too much stuttering and the FPS sometimes 70-80FPS and then same mission next replay is 25-40FPS.

This on high spec quad crossfire system. Doesnt matter what graphics settings I set still have the same problems.

Oh an I also get UBI logo freeze and system crash sometimes and then othertimes the game continues to load but it wont load textures after going to play mission just stays at 0% loaded and have to kill launcher process with taskman.

I deleted all ini files and verified with steam and with cloud service enabled.

We're going around in circles here guys... please stop adding new/re-enabling features until you have a stable patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!

[Luftrofl]

Not playable on my system now with too much stuttering and the FPS sometimes 70-80FPS and then same mission next replay is 25-40FPS.

This on high spec quad crossfire system. Doesnt matter what graphics settings I set still have the same problems.

Oh an I also get UBI logo freeze and system crash sometimes and then othertimes the game continues to load but it wont load textures after going to play mission just stays at 0% loaded and have to kill launcher process with taskman.

I deleted all ini files and verified with steam and with cloud service enabled.

We're going around in circles here guys... please stop adding new/re-enabling features until you have a stable patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!

See if deleting the Ubi cinematic helps any. It helped mine.

it's in parts/core/gui folder

[klem]

See if deleting the Ubi cinematic helps any. It helped mine.

it's in parts/core/gui folder

Ubi intro was locking some ATI card Clock at 400MHz (or similar). Don't know if that got fixed yet. Rename Logo.wmv to Logo_bak.wmv, its stops the intro and locking.

[FS~Phat]

I never had a problem with ubi logo playback before the hotfix.

[Razorhead]

I had that problem with Ati Tray Tools installed... unistalled the tray tools and reinstalled the most recent catalyst drivers was the solution.

[Tiger27]

Not playable on my system now with too much stuttering and the FPS sometimes 70-80FPS and then same mission next replay is 25-40FPS.

This on high spec quad crossfire system. Doesnt matter what graphics settings I set still have the same problems.

Oh an I also get UBI logo freeze and system crash sometimes and then othertimes the game continues to load but it wont load textures after going to play mission just stays at 0% loaded and have to kill launcher process with taskman.

I deleted all ini files and verified with steam and with cloud service enabled.

We're going around in circles here guys... please stop adding new/re-enabling features until you have a stable patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!

Have you ensured you have the correct ini files like Luthier sugested, if you had cloud save turned off you may still be using old ones, which can do some odd things, they are quite a bit different now, but be warned you may have to back up your controller settings, or redo them, I deleted the 1Csoftclub folder, renewed it redid my control mappings and it has been stable since then

[FS~Phat]

Have you ensured you have the correct ini files like Luthier sugested, if you had cloud save turned off you may still be using old ones, which can do some odd things, they are quite a bit different now, but be warned you may have to back up your controller settings, or redo them, I deleted the 1Csoftclub folder, renewed it redid my control mappings and it has been stable since then

I dont think you read my post properly, you can see that I have already followed all the advice from Luthier about cloud sync.

Originally Posted by FS~Phat
Not playable on my system now with too much stuttering and the FPS sometimes 70-80FPS and then same mission next replay is 25-40FPS.

This on high spec quad crossfire system. Doesnt matter what graphics settings I set still have the same problems.

Oh an I also get UBI logo freeze and system crash sometimes and then othertimes the game continues to load but it wont load textures after going to play mission just stays at 0% loaded and have to kill launcher process with taskman.

I deleted all ini files and verified with steam and with cloud service enabled.

We're going around in circles here guys... please stop adding new/re-enabling features until you have a stable patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!

[Kankkis]

Not playable on my system now with too much stuttering and the FPS sometimes 70-80FPS and then same mission next replay is 25-40FPS.

Actually i have this same problem, sometimes when i start the game i got solid and steady 60FPS, and maybe next time i got only 30-40FPS in same place, same plane and same clocktime. Really weird stuff.

[roadczar]

Not playable on my system now with too much stuttering and the FPS sometimes 70-80FPS and then same mission next replay is 25-40FPS.

This on high spec quad crossfire system. Doesnt matter what graphics settings I set still have the same problems.

Oh an I also get UBI logo freeze and system crash sometimes and then othertimes the game continues to load but it wont load textures after going to play mission just stays at 0% loaded and have to kill launcher process with taskman.

I deleted all ini files and verified with steam and with cloud service enabled.

We're going around in circles here guys... please stop adding new/re-enabling features until you have a stable patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!

Give t his a try...
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?p=287425

[Talbot]

Not playable on my system now with too much stuttering and the FPS sometimes 70-80FPS and then same mission next replay is 25-40FPS.

This on high spec quad crossfire system. Doesnt matter what graphics settings I set still have the same problems.

Oh an I also get UBI logo freeze and system crash sometimes and then othertimes the game continues to load but it wont load textures after going to play mission just stays at 0% loaded and have to kill launcher process with taskman.



We're going around in circles here guys... please stop adding new/re-enabling features until you have a stable patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!

+1 :confused: (2x5850 crossfire)

[Orpheus]

Ubi intro was locking some ATI card Clock at 400MHz (or similar). Don't know if that got fixed yet. Rename Logo.wmv to Logo_bak.wmv, its stops the intro and locking.

I never had a problem with ubi logo playback before the hotfix.

Yeah was me found that, it was the ubi splash wmv locking some ATI cards into video render, not detecting the switch back to 3D clocks. Doesn't sound like this fellow's issue though, if fps was fine before the patch - in fact this patch + Cat 11.5 solved the ubi problem for me and the .wmv no longer needs renaming.

Unless a check with GPU-Z or similar shows an ATI card underclocking to around 400mhz throughout, there's no need to do it.

Lots of people reporting steadily decreased performance though which is starting to worry me. I've just been trying out CEM in different planes on the 'cross country' quick mission and by the time I'd gone through the UK planes and moved on to trying out CEM in the German planes my performance had dropped to the point I'd started getting stutters/slowdowns at low level, which I don't get on first play. Additionally, this issue seems even more pronounced when using crossfire.

[Winger]

OK, i was just doing some MP. Sorry 1C but at least for me this MP (and with that the whole game) is broken. I am mostly german pilot and as the 109 is currently there is simply no reason to play online since its nothing but suicide to fly it.
FIX THAT PROPOPITCH - PLEASE!

Winger

[41Sqn_Stormcrow]

Yes, we need another hotfix that resets the prop pitch angular rates to the prehotfix status. The 109 is unplayable currently. Please fix urgently given that it is the only decent axis fighter

[Phantom77]

Yes, we need another hotfix that resets the prop pitch angular rates to the prehotfix status. The 109 is unplayable currently. Please fix urgently given that it is the only decent axis fighter

I agree with you to some extent but the 109 is still playable for me. I map the propeller pitch on a axis on my saitek quadrant ( lever down decrease pitch and lever up pitch increase and at middle of the axis well neutral ( not like the cockpit animation ). I hope that the Dev team will soon correct it like it was meant to be in a more realistic way just like the real thing. !

[Winger]

I agree with you to some extent but the 109 is still playable for me. I map the propeller pitch on a axis on my saitek quadrant ( lever down decrease pitch and lever up pitch increase and at middle of the axis well neutral ( not like the cockpit animation ). I hope that the Dev team will soon correct it like it was meant to be in a more realistic way just like the real thing. !

I have that too. Its not the way HOW to control the pitch. Its the speed the pitch changes with. Not acceptable like that.

Winger

[Phantom77]

I have that too. Its not the way HOW to control the pitch. Its the speed the pitch changes with. Not acceptable like that.

Winger

Well that was the extent I was agreeing with loll ! Like it should be !

[Winger]

Well that was the extent I was agreeing with loll ! Like it should be !

I agree. Its playable. But its no able to compete... and therefor not acceptable.

Winger

[dflion]

I have been trying everything to retain the FPS at a high rate in COD (60-90FPS). Suddenly it drops away to 25-30FPS (or lower), the sound goes and I can't get it back to the higher rate above.

I have just noticed in the ATI Catalyst control centre that my 3D settings had defaulted back to the original settings. As soon as I put my custom settings back in again and flew some missions in COD, I was back up to 60-90FPS.

There appears to be something in the patch 1.01.14588 (I think?) that after you fly a few missions, your 3D settings in the ATI Catalyst control centre somehow default back to the original settings.

I would be interested if other ATI GPU members who are getting sudden FPS reductions, after checking their Catayst control center, have found the same problem?

DFLion

[Orpheus]

Try and keep the reports relevant guys, we know about the 109 prop already.

I'm getting the 'CPU low - deactivate Aero?' dialogue an awful lot post patch, only happened once or twice before, with frequent drops to desktop for a second or two when accessing the Esc menu in flight. I've also just had my sound drop out on me completely (single player) for the first time ever. Still concerned about this gradual performance degradation, need more info tho.

[Orpheus]

I have been trying everything to retain the FPS at a high rate in COD (60-90FPS). Suddenly it drops away to 25-30FPS (or lower), the sound goes and I can't get it back to the higher rate above.

I have just noticed in the ATI Catalyst control centre that my 3D settings had defaulted back to the original settings. As soon as I put my custom settings back in again and flew some missions in COD, I was back up to 60-90FPS.

There appears to be something in the patch 1.01.14588 (I think?) that after you fly a few missions, your 3D settings in the ATI Catalyst control centre somehow default back to the original settings.

I would be interested if other ATI GPU members who are getting sudden FPS reductions, after checking their Catayst control center, have found the same problem?

DFLion


Bear in mind that if you installed Cat 11.5 as directed before getting the patch, it will reset your Catalyst to default settings upon install (I made that mistake, was trying to run xfire for a full 10 mins before I realised! ;) )?

Does sound like you might have this performance degradation too. Ignoring the reset catalyst settings for now, do you see a performance drop over time (say, running three or four missions over different areas) or from initial loadup/first flight?

[dflion]

Bear in mind that if you installed Cat 11.5 as directed before getting the patch, it will reset your Catalyst to default settings upon install (I made that mistake, was trying to run xfire for a full 10 mins before I realised! ;) )?

Does sound like you might have this performance degradation too. Ignoring the reset catalyst settings for now, do you see a performance drop over time (say, running three or four missions over different areas) or from initial loadup/first flight?

Thanks Orpheus, I certainly have a performance degradation similar to you. I did upgrade my ATI drivers before the new patch, though several times since then I have 'tweaked' my 3D settings to get the best performance. The performance definately drops over time - up to five missions. Until now I never thought to look at my Catalyst control centre - and there it was, a default back to the original settings. I will do some more tests to see when this 'default back' is occuring and post some more info.

DFLion

[Orpheus]

Thanks Orpheus, I certainly have a performance degradation similar to you. I did upgrade my ATI drivers before the new patch, though several times since then I have 'tweaked' my 3D settings to get the best performance. The performance definately drops over time - up to five missions. Until now I never thought to look at my Catalyst control centre - and there it was, a default back to the original settings. I will do some more tests to see when this 'default back' is occuring and post some more info.

DFLion

Ah right ok then, I've done the same. I've just checked and my Cat settings have remained the same so definitely not seeing that on my system, sorry!

Up to five missions sounds about right. I found that if I stayed on the same mission the drop was far less noticeable (slight stutter creeps in around the third playthrough sometimes, but not immediately present), but if I move about between quick missions the performance gets steadily worse after the third or fourth, dropping in fps/general performance by around 50%.

I don't get it when I play campaign either, which coupled with the fact the degradation is far less present when repeating several attempts at a single mission, leads me to suspect it might be a terrain loading issue. Staying in the same general 'mission area' seems to prevent the degradation or at least mitigate it - if you load several mission areas you start to see a hit.

Be nice to to hear from anyone who may be having similar trouble so we can compare reports. :)

[Kankkis]

Ah right ok then, I've done the same. I've just checked and my Cat settings have remained the same so definitely not seeing that on my system, sorry!

Up to five missions sounds about right. I found that if I stayed on the same mission the drop was far less noticeable (slight stutter creeps in around the third playthrough sometimes, but not immediately present), but if I move about between quick missions the performance gets steadily worse after the third or fourth, dropping in fps/general performance by around 50%.

I don't get it when I play campaign either, which coupled with the fact the degradation is far less present when repeating several attempts at a single mission, leads me to suspect it might be a terrain loading issue. Staying in the same general 'mission area' seems to prevent the degradation or at least mitigate it - if you load several mission areas you start to see a hit.

Be nice to to hear from anyone who may be having similar trouble so we can compare reports. :)

I i mentioned earlier i got the same problem, first go to crosscountry, steady 60FPS, then london and back to crosscountry i got 30-40FPS.
What is strange i got this problem only in crosscountry only too. Sometimes i go first Crosscountry and get steady 60FPS and maybe next time when i start to play go straight to Crosscountry first and get 30-40FPS.

Checked with fraps, and i see that difference with my eyes too, when i got 30-40FPS there is little warping on lowlevel flying, i mean all details is jumping a little, when steady 60FPS no jumping on trees and other details at all, very smooth then

[Wolf_Rider]

500 ~ 700 ft seems to be the level to keep above for smoother flying

yes, something is awry in the memory side of things regarding retention and loading between missions