Could anyone tell me how to get dragon rider in dark side?

[borntoshine]

I cant find how to get dragon rider althout I follow get prncess for dragon in portland, but i cant get fake princess, and dont know to get back shelter. Please help me, thank U so much

[aghiuta]

to get back to shelter just use teleport from companion.
fake pricesses you will get from inselburg and portland, and some real ones from various places.
when you give a princess to the dragon in the shelter he will generate 1 dragon rider, and then you can buy her for 100k gold.

[Zhuangzi]

That fake princess quest is really important because you end up with 20 Dragon Riders out of it and I only had about 33 in total by the end of the game.

[borntoshine]

so,how to get fake princess in portland, I looking for so long but cand find how to get one. Please tell me, thank U

[Zhuangzi]

Someone else may be able to clarify, but there's this woman called Feline Delacourt that you need to install in one of the castles (directly opposite another castle). You set up a fan club for her or some such nonsense. Then you'll need to do a quest whereby you have to actually give her one princess and I think get some cloth or something like that. So, is Feline Delacourt in that castle yet? If not, you'll have to complete that quest first.

[aghiuta]

another source of fake princesses is from marie curie (20) and 10 from inselgard school for 500k (get them before you get real ones from her or she leaves)

[borntoshine]

Fenine is in oppsite castle but do I give her real princess while I have only one (Sally)? There is no cloth... request in fenine castle, just some volunteer

[Zhuangzi]

Don't give her the princess until you get the quest for the fake princesses. I can't remember what triggers it. Anyone else?

[DGDobrev]

Actually, Feline sets up a fan club of you :)

Once you kill the Novice in the Abbey and put Feline there, she will create a fan club of you and start feeding you girls and boys for cash which you can turn into dark troops. Some time later in the game, after the dragon riders quest activates, so will the fake princesses idea activate, as it is clear you can't supply the dragons with so many real princesses. I think Marie Curie was the one to talk to about it.

I had a weird occurrence during the quest, though. She took 1 princess from me and nothing happened, but when she took a second, I could have the fake princesses. Dunno why that happened.

In any case, I doubt the game has been planned for a full stack of dragon riders, as that would be extremely overpowered. It is overpowered enough that you can split your dragon rider stack in 2-5 and have 2-5 separate dragon summons, which gives you a great control over the battle.

[Zhuangzi]

One thing I found weird about that was that one Dragon Rider was summoning like 6 Red Dragons, and yet when I had 30 Dragon Riders it was only about 18. Dunno how that works.

[MattCaspermeyer]

It uses your hero's leadership to determine the leadership value of the summoned dragons plus a much smaller increase based on the actual number of troops.

That's why I played so long with just single stacks as 1 Dragon Rider could summon several times the number of a single rider.

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[MattCaspermeyer]

I actually was able to max my Dragon Riders - I think I had about 40 or so of them. Let's see I remember breaking them into 3 stacks of 9 and 2 stacks of 8 (or it might have been the other way around so that is 42 to 43 of them) for the Whitehill fights (since my ArchDemons would get damaged by their Geysers).

Once you get the False Princesses, you should be able to generate as many as you can afford. I think I got like 50 False Princesses from Feline and I had about 5 left if memory serves.

They were split into 3 stacks of 13 or 14 or so and they did insane damage with their Dive and the halving ability. Plus they'd summon stacks of 10 - 14 dragons of various types.

I actually enjoyed playing them, but as has been mentioned a lot, they are overpowered. Nonetheless, I don't see a reason to change them (except maybe have the summon leadership based on their numbers and not your hero's leadership).

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[DGDobrev]

Well, they still cost 100k a pop :) We do no-loss, so we have insane amounts of gold, but if you play normally and have to replace units regularly after each battle, the cash required might become a problem. Even within the no-loss game, I felt that the devs intentionally made the player pay insane amounts of cash for simple stuff (as I saw my purse going empty as well on a few occasions), just to limit them from becoming overpowered very quickly. Too many quests require you to drop 50k here, 100k there, or a 500k to bribe the school director in Inselburg into selling you 5 real princesses.

[MattCaspermeyer]

Yep, you're right - there's a fine balance here as I ended up with 10M gold at the end of the game.

I was ultra-cheap, though, and didn't use much Blackie Teleportation until the end of the game (although you'd probably only spend 50-100k from all the teleports). I guess I had some nostalgia for the sailing days! ;)

I was really raking the gold in in Helvedia (and experience, too) as it seemed like some battles were almost 100k a pop.

I think if you go the Dragon Rider route, you have to ensure that you don't lose any - 100k a pop is too expensive to lose one.

Pretty much most other losses can be handled by Recruiter or Puppeteer if you do it right.

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[Zhuangzi]

Thanks for the explanation, Matt. I was scratching my head a bit on that one.

My feeling with Dragon Riders was that they were just way overpowered, even with one stack. Yeah, you could play with all Dragon Riders split into different stacks but it'd be too easy.

I only ended up with 7 mil at the end of my game, but I could have had way more had I actually sold unwanted items instead of destroying them for crystals. So I think past a certain level gold is just a non-issue in this game, even on Impossible.

[MattCaspermeyer]

Yah - I didn't sell any items either, in fact I bought every single one since I needed them for Crystals just like you.

I did do every item upgrade fight, so that probably got me quite a bit of extra gold here and there. I also was raking it in when I was in Helvedia.

You know, I think before I finally got more Dragon Riders, I had single stacks of them summoning like 7 or 8 dragons a pop. It was ridiculous.

My ArchDemons would distract with their Volcanoes and the Dragon Riders would summon 3 random dragon stacks. Then the fun would ensue. :)

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