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luthier
04-22-2011, 02:16 PM
[Edit] The patch is here. Sorry, no coherent patch notes today. As usual, apply to the latest steam version.

The most important component of this beta patch is the changes to multiplayer. We're hoping you'll find the new code more exciting, and statistics more fulfilling. This is, of course, just one footstep in our continuous journey towards a well-rounded multiplayer experience.

Stuff in this patch:

1. Major changes to online code, statistics, stability, etc.

2. More performance increases, including streamlined block loading that lets you switch between planes over England and France instantaneously (then watch the landscape underneath load in).

3. Force feedback.

4. True full screen, VSync.

5. Various changes in aircraft animations, FM, etc - a huge list.

6. Lots of changes to ground object AI and DM - another huge list.

7. New IL-2 style QMB missions.

We've also been working on SLI and Crossfire support. Crossfire is probably a couple of weeks out, while SLI is most likely going to wait for the next driver release from NVidia. By the way, SLI/Crossfire hardware should no longer cause slow-downs as of the last patch, so this shouldn't be as huge a let-down as it could have been.


Known issues:
* Temporary Army icons, not yet appearing everywhere
* No localization for new content other than EN and RU
* New briefings for campaign do not re-display the mission texts


Eng:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SKKA0B31
Rus:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CD049M4M

Torrent:
Eng:
http://www.1cfiles.com/IL2_CliffsofDover/IL2COD_14214.zip.torrent
Rus:
http://www.1cfiles.com/IL2_CliffsofDover/IL2COD_14214_ru.zip.torrent

Baron
04-22-2011, 02:18 PM
WoW, niiiice. :)


Like the nr 7.

shrink
04-22-2011, 02:18 PM
Thank you. :-P

David Hayward
04-22-2011, 02:19 PM
3. Force feedback.


Force-feed at last! Force-feed at last!! Thank God Almighty, force-feed at last!!!

recoilfx
04-22-2011, 02:19 PM
Thanks Luthier. Having regular updates from you is very appreciated.

vicinity
04-22-2011, 02:19 PM
Great news! Looking forward to it, sounds very promising.

Keep up the good work. Thanks.

41Sqn_Stormcrow
04-22-2011, 02:20 PM
Can't wait! Great work but don't forget to take a bit time off for your families.

tillobert
04-22-2011, 02:24 PM
sound good but did i miss something or won´t the radio work after the patch either??

BigC208
04-22-2011, 02:28 PM
Old style QMB, right on! That's a lot faster than I expected. Great.

rkirk77
04-22-2011, 02:31 PM
Keep it up boys.. you're winning the battle!

HEAD DOWN, ASS UP!

Mattius
04-22-2011, 02:31 PM
(sorry Russian fans, I really wanted to simul-post this in Russian and English as usual but I'm kind of running around with my hair on fire)

That made me smile. :grin:

I douse your hair if you make 3-4 Hours, gee that would be great. Good Luck. Any news of an update regarding Radio Comms?

furbs
04-22-2011, 02:31 PM
great stuff Luthier, keep em coming and good luck with rolling out this patch today.

Full screen and vsync...does that mean FSAA should work as it should?

The new QMB is very good news indeed, hoping that loadouts and skin saving are fixed with this.

cheers.

Mad G
04-22-2011, 02:34 PM
3. Force feedback. YES!

Kankkis
04-22-2011, 02:34 PM
Looks good. Thanks for info.

the Dutchman
04-22-2011, 02:35 PM
I really appriciate all this,thank you!

addman
04-22-2011, 02:35 PM
Luthier FTW!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ybTLVW3vUMQ/TajwSSqgRjI/AAAAAAAAAl0/wkvmzWmUDdU/s1600/haters-gonna-hate-batman-on-rollerskates.jpg

fruitbat
04-22-2011, 02:37 PM
sounds great, happy Easter.

JFA2
04-22-2011, 02:39 PM
thx for the info Luthier! Great stuff!
Hope You can start thinking about new engine and gun sounds at some point in the near future.

JG52Uther
04-22-2011, 02:41 PM
Looking good! Thanks for keeping us informend Luthier.

flyingblind
04-22-2011, 02:47 PM
Oh dear, I think some wives and girlfriends might not be so happy this long weekend. Thank you, Luthier, it is looking better and better.

b101uk
04-22-2011, 02:56 PM
I would rather wait until Monday or Tuesday rather than have something rushed just to keep the impatient happy. ;)

Phazon
04-22-2011, 03:00 PM
I'm surprised at the pace these patches are happening. I suppose its neccessary to give the game a good US launch.

Thankyou for the update Luthier, its much appreciated.

lothar29
04-22-2011, 03:02 PM
Thanks Luthier, I am happy to hear that they are still working in the entire development.

LcSummers
04-22-2011, 03:05 PM
Great news and thank you. So many patches. Cant wait to read the long list with fixed bugs.

AARPRazorbacks
04-22-2011, 03:10 PM
This sim reminds me of a flight sim put out by M$. The sim was disappointing to some and not to others. It recived not so good reviews but it is now a very good sim.

Thank you for the updates. I very much enjoy this sim.

After the last download from stream what is the revision number at the right bottom of the screen? I still see 1.00.14072.

Thanks,

flyer01

LcSummers
04-22-2011, 03:14 PM
This sim reminds me of a flight sim put out by M$. The sim was disappointing to some and not to others. It recived not so good reviews but it is now a very good sim.

Thank you for the updates. I very much enjoy this sim.

After the last download from stream what is the revision number at the right bottom of the screen? I still see 1.00.14072.

Thanks,

flyer01

NADA, its wrong mate

the last digits should be 14101 ;)

Tvrdi
04-22-2011, 03:17 PM
fingers crossed

David198502
04-22-2011, 03:17 PM
waoh!i didnt expect another patch so soon again.especially after a week of silence.now we know the reason for it.
i really appreciate the high frequency of patches.every weekend we get something new.

mcler002
04-22-2011, 03:21 PM
Thank you and happy Easter to yourself and the team!

Ross

eshati
04-22-2011, 03:21 PM
Thank you sir! And happy easter to you!!!

Strike
04-22-2011, 03:24 PM
hehe :D I'm officially smiling :)

Have a great easter Luthier and team!

lothar29
04-22-2011, 03:26 PM
Oh dear, I think some wives and girlfriends might not be so happy this long weekend. Thank you, Luthier, it is looking better and better.

jajajajajaja:mrgreen:

Jediteo
04-22-2011, 03:27 PM
Have anyone told you guys that you are awesome? Well you are. Happy Easter, may your easter eggs be brimming with candy.

BigPickle
04-22-2011, 03:34 PM
We are working our butts off trying to get a beta patch done for right now, which may still happen - stay tuned. In the worst case, this might be Monday. However we'll do everything we can to roll it out in 3-4 hours.

Stuff in this patch:

1. Major changes to online code, statistics, stability, etc.

2. More performance increases, including streamlined block loading that lets you switch between planes over England and France instantaneously (then watch the landscape underneath load in).

3. Force feedback.

4. True full screen, VSync.

5. Various changes in aircraft animations, FM, etc - a huge list.

6. Lots of changes to ground object AI and DM - another huge list.

7. New IL-2 style QMB missions.

We've also been working on SLI and Crossfire support. Crossfire is probably a couple of weeks out, while SLI is most likely going to wait for the next driver release from NVidia. By the way, SLI/Crossfire hardware should no longer cause slow-downs as of the last patch, so this shouldn't be as huge a let-down as it could have been.

Back to the trenches for me! Stay tuned!

(sorry Russian fans, I really wanted to simul-post this in Russian and English as usual but I'm kind of running around with my hair on fire)

F##K YEAH !!!!!! :grin::grin::grin:

JG301_HaJa
04-22-2011, 03:35 PM
Much appreciated, especially FFB amd Crossfire.
But don't overstretch yourself's. Take a nice easter holiday with family and friends.

All the best and happy easter to all of you :)

jibo
04-22-2011, 03:37 PM
MP and Full Screen at last, stay hidden luthier

Oldschool61
04-22-2011, 03:37 PM
Oh dear, I think some wives and girlfriends might not be so happy this long weekend. .


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Admin:
Keep your posts clean please

HFC_Dolphin
04-22-2011, 03:40 PM
These are fantastic news and as always devs are giving their best to fix things and that's why they are trully remarkable in this business!

Thank you so much Ilya and Happy Easter!!!

Vengeanze
04-22-2011, 03:45 PM
Even though 1C are concerned 'bout us I suspect that the imminent reviews are a major reason for the current patchrate.
But who cares. I'm happy! :-D

Buzzer
04-22-2011, 03:48 PM
Great!

Keep up the good work.
The sim has really evolved already in the 2 weeks its been out...

Dano
04-22-2011, 03:49 PM
Bloody hell, are you lot ever going to take a break? :D

Sounds like another round of greatness to me, much appreciated :)

AARPRazorbacks
04-22-2011, 03:49 PM
NADA, its wrong mate

the last digits should be 14101 ;)

Ya, when I play on line 14101 is what it says. Off line its still 1.00.14072.
Whats the why to get the offline to update?

Thanks,
flyer01

5./JG27 Lehmann
04-22-2011, 03:54 PM
This update made me make a quiet, very feminine "Yay", good info, thanks :)

Luffe
04-22-2011, 03:58 PM
True full screen. Great news.

Can you tell us the reason behind the pseudo full screen, was this part of a feature not fully implemented or a "feature"?

Gourmand
04-22-2011, 04:04 PM
Great news the force feedback patch !!!
good job !
thanks to the dev who work hard for it !

( and the true full screen too )

kimosabi
04-22-2011, 04:04 PM
Back to the trenches for me! Stay tuned!

(sorry Russian fans, I really wanted to simul-post this in Russian and English as usual but I'm kind of running around with my hair on fire)

As my customers say to me when I say that: "That's exactly where we want you." And now, I am a customer! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAH!

Thanks, great to see FFB back in the loop.

addman
04-22-2011, 04:15 PM
Almost forgot, HAPPY EASTER IL-2: CoD team!


Admin:
Any more post like that and you will be banned

U505
04-22-2011, 04:16 PM
waoh!i didnt expect another patch so soon again.especially after a week of silence.now we know the reason for it.
i really appreciate the high frequency of patches.every weekend we get something new.


after the friday updates ,before the release,we can say we have the week ends updates.:-P

garengarch
04-22-2011, 04:30 PM
thanks for the update :)

superman
04-22-2011, 04:31 PM
Nice one! Thanks.

Kianoni
04-22-2011, 04:31 PM
seriously, you rock! and try to get a small vacation soon, go south and spend some time on a beach.

satchenko
04-22-2011, 04:36 PM
Yeah!!!!

For the next patch radio comms fix please!!! :grin:

Extreme_One
04-22-2011, 04:36 PM
We are working our butts off trying to get a beta patch done for right now, which may still happen - stay tuned. In the worst case, this might be Monday. However we'll do everything we can to roll it out in 3-4 hours...

Good luck.

Hope you get it out soon but I'll be happy to see it when it arrives. :)

Thanks for the update.

Plt Off JRB Meaker
04-22-2011, 04:36 PM
Thanks very much Luthier and team,I really appreciate the support you are giving us,it's tremendous.

Happy Easter to all :grin::grin::grin:

Skiiwa
04-22-2011, 04:39 PM
Thank u!!!!!!

MegOhm
04-22-2011, 04:50 PM
Great News, Could we look at Multiplayer for the next one?

Phazon
04-22-2011, 04:55 PM
Great News, Could we look at Multiplayer for the next one?

The very first note for the patch is major changes to the online code. ;)

Blackdog_kt
04-22-2011, 04:56 PM
Excellent news as usual, thanks for being committed to making this a success.

smink1701
04-22-2011, 05:02 PM
Team Luthier - Thank you.

And for all grateful board members, COD would make a great Easter gift for family and friends. Maybe that special neighbor across the street.

My sincere thanks for all the hard work and wonderful sim that with your efforts is getting better by the week.:)

JG27CaptStubing
04-22-2011, 05:06 PM
I would rather wait until Monday or Tuesday rather than have something rushed just to keep the impatient happy. ;)

Actually it's a good thing... We play with the beta patch they get the feedback needed over the weekend and they make enhancements as needed.

Let's face it we are Beta testers.

rkirk77
04-22-2011, 05:11 PM
Actually it's a good thing... We play with the beta patch they get the feedback needed over the weekend and they make enhancements as needed.

Let's face it we are Beta testers.

You make it sound like it's a BAD thing, i enjoy doing this!

Urufu_Shinjiro
04-22-2011, 05:11 PM
FFB and Vsynch, YAY!!!! Luthier, could the true fullscreen possibly fix the driver forcing of AA and AF not working?

Gibbage
04-22-2011, 05:12 PM
Any update or ETA on the SDK?

BlitzPig_Voidcracker
04-22-2011, 05:12 PM
old style qmb, right on! That's a lot faster than i expected. Great.

+1

:)

MJDixon
04-22-2011, 05:16 PM
Force feedback, full screen and QMB update!

Sounds like a good present for my Birthday, even if it does end up arriving late. :grin:

Phazon
04-22-2011, 05:17 PM
FFB and Vsynch, YAY!!!! Luthier, could the true fullscreen possibly fix the driver forcing of AA and AF not working?

I sure hope so, alot is lynchpinned on this fix. Its why vsync will now work, and although he didn't specifically mention it AA should now work too. If not the in-game AA (I'm not sure what method they use), forcing it with the drivers should work.

I also hope it fixes ATI cards not scaling up their 3D clock speeds for Cliffs of Dover once and for all. I'm getting tired of having to put an overclock on my card to force the right clockspeeds for the game.

madrebel
04-22-2011, 05:22 PM
still no downloadable dedicated server piece ...

BigPickle
04-22-2011, 05:24 PM
I also hope it fixes ATI cards not scaling up their 3D clock speeds for Cliffs of Dover once and for all. I'm getting tired of having to put an overclock on my card to force the right clockspeeds for the game.

How do you mean? I havent looked at my clock speeds while in game but you say they dont rise or fall or something like that?

Vengeanze
04-22-2011, 05:24 PM
Force feedback, full screen and QMB update!

Sounds like a good present for my Birthday, even if it does end up arriving late. :grin:

Happy birthday then! :-D

Friendly_flyer
04-22-2011, 05:25 PM
The old style QMB should make a lot of people happy!

Happy Easter, Luthier & Co!

AARPRazorbacks
04-22-2011, 05:33 PM
Ya, when I play on line 14101 is what it says. Off line its still 1.00.14072.
Whats the why to get the offline to update?

Thanks,
flyer01

I found out what the cause was. I for some reason thought CoD was to be put in the Program files in W-7 64 bit instead of the Programs files x86.:oops:

flyer01

AARPRazorbacks
04-22-2011, 05:35 PM
Any update or ETA on the SDK?

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:cool:

LT.INSTG8R
04-22-2011, 05:36 PM
Exciting news as usual! Very much looking forward to this quick progress.

Blue Scorpion
04-22-2011, 05:38 PM
How do you mean? I havent looked at my clock speeds while in game but you say they dont rise or fall or something like that?

More recent ATI cards scale clock speeds with the type of application being run, to reduce energy consumption, noise, heat, that sort of thing. However, if an application is not coded in a way the card recognises, it will operate at desktop clocks, which are seriously reduced impairing performance quite considerably. As COD did not have a proper full screen mode, these ati cards were running at desktop clock speeds, and not the speeds intended for applications such as gaming. A workaround is to force an over clock through the drivers or other software; doing so forces the clocks to operate continuously at the overlcocked speed.

No601_Merlin
04-22-2011, 05:38 PM
Thanks Luthier. Having regular updates from you is very appreciated.

+1

Phazon
04-22-2011, 05:38 PM
How do you mean? I havent looked at my clock speeds while in game but you say they dont rise or fall or something like that?

There are a few threads in the technical support forum on this. It doesn't affect all models but it does exist.

dgeorge04
04-22-2011, 05:39 PM
At last.Thank you,thank you thank you.God bless you Luthier

rob63
04-22-2011, 06:05 PM
You da man! Thank you Luthier and team :)

Mattius
04-22-2011, 06:06 PM
Will you let us know if it's not going to happen before Monday?

Kankkis
04-22-2011, 06:12 PM
Will you let us know if it's not going to happen before Monday?

+1

Tymi
04-22-2011, 06:14 PM
Will you let us know if it's not going to happen before Monday?

Yes please! My F5 button is wearing out :D

BigPickle
04-22-2011, 06:14 PM
There are a few threads in the technical support forum on this. It doesn't affect all models but it does exist.

Rgr i have the same card as you so how do i know if it is happening?

Will you let us know if it's not going to happen before Monday?

+1

Flanker35M
04-22-2011, 06:20 PM
S!

Now that came out of nowhere :) Was tinkering with IL-2 to see if any setting would cause FPS boost or degradation. So far none except one, HDR. Set that to 0 and Launcher.exe crashes. Possible to have HDR thing as option? It eats FPS as well.

Luthier, do these error messages tell you anything if posted? Got a few of them from the logs...

JG52Krupi
04-22-2011, 06:31 PM
Fantastic news

seaeye
04-22-2011, 06:36 PM
This sounds just brilliant! Looks as if we're getting closer and closer still to the game we all wanted. Cheers Luthier and team, have a good easter weekend.

~S~

JG52Krupi
04-22-2011, 06:39 PM
Will you let us know if it's not going to happen before Monday?

+1 I would rather be playing CoD than abusing my F5 button.

Strike
04-22-2011, 06:42 PM
F5 keeps your browser fresh ;) Don't leave that button alone for too long, or you'll have mold all over your browser :P

Mattius
04-22-2011, 06:43 PM
No news - good news??????

senseispcc
04-22-2011, 06:44 PM
Thanks for your hard work! :-)

BigPickle
04-22-2011, 06:45 PM
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Admin:
keep it clean please

luthier
04-22-2011, 06:46 PM
Almost there folks.

Doc_uk
04-22-2011, 06:46 PM
Thank you
But, i would really like to see the load-outs fixed
regards
Doc

rkirk77
04-22-2011, 06:46 PM
Can you give as a time?

TUSA/TX-Gunslinger
04-22-2011, 06:47 PM
Sounds awesome - Luthier and CoD Team.

Thanks so much for the update.....

S!

Gunny

snwkill
04-22-2011, 06:48 PM
Almost there folks.

so I might not get the grass cut this weekend is what you are saying?

Sauf
04-22-2011, 06:49 PM
Almost there folks.

A very welcome surprise, well there goes easter, will be spending it trying to shoot down Splatfires over England :p

Mattius
04-22-2011, 06:50 PM
Almost there folks.

:grin: (F5 abuse....)

jf1981
04-22-2011, 06:52 PM
Great, hopeful to see the result !

I bought Spitfires books now and almost starting to dive into the legent of it !

Regards

MadBlaster
04-22-2011, 06:54 PM
Thanks for keeping us updated. JMHO, but I would like to see more optimization of the graphics over land, and in particular, the buildings.
I did some benchmark tests and whenever it refocuses on buildings, the fps drops in the toilet.
Also, even when my fps is high (e.g. much >30) I still see stutters and pauses.
I was using the tiger moth land flight track that came with last patch.
Anyway, something else is going on.
It's not ram either because I did these tests with everything as low as possible and monitored my ram use.
Maybe the sound files or something.
But, I was running sound as low as possible.
It was weird because my fps was actually higher with minimal sound turned on( sounduse=1) verses sound off (sounduse=0), which doesn't make any sense to me.
You would think with sound off avg fps would be higher, but it was lower by noticeable difference.
I should mention, I don't have sound card so everything off cpu/gpu in my test. I would really look at the sound in general though.
It drops out a lot in some of the bench tracks. Also, the radio chatter and that red text, just cut that out of the game. No one cares about it and all it does is lower performance and is annoying.
Also, take a week off for Easter.
Don't burn yourselves out.
We need you to live long time.:)

smink1701
04-22-2011, 06:56 PM
Luthier, thanks for all the hard work and communication.

Strike
04-22-2011, 06:58 PM
Almost there folks.

You are the epic patchers :) You guys metaphorically are ABDR crews! Aircraft Battle Damage Repair :P Sticking the mg13 holes with bubblegum and using plywood and staplers to fix the Oerlikon holes :p

No seriously, thanks for the long hours! Will feed this patch into my install and watch what happens to my game from a distance :p Then test the heck out of it towards monday :)

Thanks!

Borsch
04-22-2011, 06:58 PM
Thank you , Ilya!!!

Force Feedback will be most welcomed!!

Thank you for your hard work!

LcSummers
04-22-2011, 06:59 PM
Luthier, thanks for your hard and great work. You and your team have a nice weekend and HAPPY EASTER!!!

jibo
04-22-2011, 07:01 PM
my very elite consulting, piping and rating bureau made of me and my cat is saying.. thiz game iz about to take off

jt_medina
04-22-2011, 07:04 PM
Excellent news!

Hecke
04-22-2011, 07:10 PM
Luthier, is 64 bit .exe on your priority list?

Extreme_One
04-22-2011, 07:11 PM
Must ... resist ... the urge ... to .... keep ... pressing F5 ! :)

Bartoszcze
04-22-2011, 07:12 PM
Today I forced my video card to run in 3d (not underclocked) mode instead of switching erratically from 2d/3d. It removed the stutters almost completely and made the game run much, much faster. Probably it won't be needed anymore after you introduce real full screen, but anyway I thought it may help some people before the new patch is released.

seiseki
04-22-2011, 07:12 PM
I hope you're not killing yourself, working around the clock..

This is awesome news though, but stay healthy! :D

LcSummers
04-22-2011, 07:15 PM
Who can borrow me his F5 key?:-P

luthier
04-22-2011, 07:17 PM
Edited it in, check the first post

Hunin
04-22-2011, 07:19 PM
Thank you very much.
Your support is exemplary and a real singular joy in todays software world.

Sauf
04-22-2011, 07:19 PM
ty

LcSummers
04-22-2011, 07:20 PM
Thanks Ilya, downloading now, excellent job!!!!!

335th_GRAthos
04-22-2011, 07:21 PM
Luthier, thanks for all the hard work and communication.


+1

Happy Easter

KeBrAnTo
04-22-2011, 07:21 PM
Edited it in, check the first post

Download ing !, Thanks Luthier !!! :grin:

JG52Uther
04-22-2011, 07:21 PM
Brilliant!

Extreme_One
04-22-2011, 07:22 PM
Excellent.

Thank you and Happy Easter to you all. :D

Lixma
04-22-2011, 07:22 PM
Almost there folks.

Go home!

...and thanks!

Froddi
04-22-2011, 07:24 PM
Great thanks:cool:

mcler002
04-22-2011, 07:24 PM
Eng:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SKKA0B31
Rus:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CD049M4M

Torrent:
Eng:
http://www.1cfiles.com/IL2_CliffsofDover/IL2COD_14214.zip.torrent
Rus:
http://www.1cfiles.com/IL2_CliffsofDover/IL2COD_14214_ru.zip.torrent[/QUOTE]

OH YEAH :D

Shall have a go later :D - so excited!

seaeye
04-22-2011, 07:25 PM
cheers!

15.Span_Valalo
04-22-2011, 07:25 PM
More Thaks team and Luthier!!! Downloading!!! THKS!!!!!!

scissorss
04-22-2011, 07:26 PM
Thanks, great work guys!

jamesdietz
04-22-2011, 07:26 PM
Force feedback- does that mean that my Microsoft FFB 2 will work...Please post me an answer so I won't have to buy a new joystick right away for CloD....We don't get it until May here in the U.S. but I'd like to be prepared...

swiss
04-22-2011, 07:28 PM
Force feedback- does that mean that my Microsoft FFB 2 will work...Please post me an answer so I won't have to buy a new joystick right away for CloD....We don't get it until May here in the U.S. but I'd like to be prepared...

The FFB2 already worked, only with centering force though.

David198502
04-22-2011, 07:28 PM
well how do i get this patch to work?i downloaded it.its a folder.i extracted the files in the steam il2 main folder.and the game wont start anymore!!!!!??

LcSummers
04-22-2011, 07:30 PM
well how do i get this patch to work?i downloaded it.its a folder.i extracted the files in the steam il2 main folder.and the game wont start anymore!!!!!??



Welcome aboard mate, here too:-P

Shoot down in flames

ATAG_Doc
04-22-2011, 07:33 PM
I love you

BigPickle
04-22-2011, 07:34 PM
nooo my heart just sank really? try varifing game cache and then deleting the files you put in, the put the download back in. if it still dont work then re-download and pray

luthier
04-22-2011, 07:37 PM
Oh gawrsh. Did you guys get the torrent or the megaupload version?

This is extracted to
(Program Files)\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover

right?

mcler002
04-22-2011, 07:38 PM
Downloaded, extracted... works :D

But the misses is here so i cant play about with it now :(

15JG52_Brauer
04-22-2011, 07:38 PM
downloaded patch - applied it as with all previous patches (which I had no problems with) - when I launch I get crosshairs, then nothing - Launcher process starts in task manager then stops. Thankfully with steam you just verify game files and it puts back the original ones, but would like to get the patch working if possible - any ideas? ( I already tried re downloading , un zipping and re-applying - no good) - looks like I may have to go to the pub early tonight after all... oh the inhumanity of it all ;-)

Strike
04-22-2011, 07:39 PM
downloaded patch - applied it as with all previous patches (which I had no problems with) - when I launch I get crosshairs, then nothing - Launcher process starts in task manager then stops. Thankfully with steam you just verify game files and it puts back the original ones, but would like to get the patch working if possible - any ideas? ( I already tried re downloading , un zipping and re-applying - no good) - looks like I may have to go to the pub early tonight after all... oh the inhumanity of it all ;-)

yeah same here. Verified, re-installed patch and just get the yellow crosshair

Megaupload btw

15JG52_Brauer
04-22-2011, 07:40 PM
I got megaupload version - will try the torrent instead

LcSummers
04-22-2011, 07:40 PM
Oh gawrsh. Did you guys get the torrent or the megaupload version?

This is extracted to
(Program Files)\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover

right?

Here megaupload

BigPickle
04-22-2011, 07:40 PM
Torrent didnt work properly when i tried that so i went with megaupload Luthier maybe its the torrent file?
***EDIT Sorry IGNORE *********

Hunin
04-22-2011, 07:40 PM
Megaload (ENG) version working here.
Fullscreen and VSYNC work - card clocks properly now.
I can run it on high including SSAO now with only the occasional micro stutter and texture LOD switching (5850 default clocks / 6 gigs o RAM / Phenom Quad at 3 Ghz).
Thanks a bunch.

KDN
04-22-2011, 07:41 PM
Likewise. Here is the message from the Log.txt file


[15:38:12] System.NotSupportedException: An attempt was made to load an assembly from a network location which would have caused the assembly to be sandboxed in previous versions of the .NET Framework. This release of the .NET Framework does not enable CAS policy by default, so this load may be dangerous. If this load is not intended to sandbox the assembly, please enable the loadFromRemoteSources switch. See http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=155569 for more information.
[15:38:12] at System.Reflection.RuntimeAssembly.nLoadFile(String path, Evidence evidence)
[15:38:12] at System.Reflection.Assembly.LoadFile(String path)
[15:38:12] at TFBKgsyill65evel7wl.LCbkCByvhDi1rMZJSZG.C1clhsa3Ko ThYVUIEeEp(Object )
[15:38:12] at TFBKgsyill65evel7wl.LCbkCByvhDi1rMZJSZG.ek0fT0HVLd 9()
[15:38:12] =================================================
[15:38:12] Application p

Kankkis
04-22-2011, 07:41 PM
Torrent, no promblems, but i think Vsync is not working, FF is great, more testing...

whoarmongar
04-22-2011, 07:42 PM
same here megaupload , yellow crosshair then nothing.

jibo
04-22-2011, 07:42 PM
torrents check file integrity

luthier
04-22-2011, 07:44 PM
Well since this is working for some people and not the others, perhaps the problem is the OS?

We might have done something wrong using a .zip archive this time, when we used .rar before. Some people were having trouble opening .rar, perhaps the same is going on when unzipping out of a zip? Are you guys just using Windows Explorer? Select the two folders inside the zip and copy-paste? Make sure to replace all files?

Sorry about the troubles.

LcSummers
04-22-2011, 07:45 PM
Well since this is working for some people and not the others, perhaps the problem is the OS?

We might have done something wrong using a .zip archive this time, when we used .rar before. Some people were having trouble opening .rar, perhaps the same is going on when unzipping out of a zip? Are you guys just using Windows Explorer? Select the two folders inside the zip and copy-paste? Make sure to replace all files?

Sorry about the troubles.

No problem for me, lets have another try and thank you for your assistance.

Strike
04-22-2011, 07:46 PM
Well since this is working for some people and not the others, perhaps the problem is the OS?

We might have done something wrong using a .zip archive this time, when we used .rar before. Some people were having trouble opening .rar, perhaps the same is going on when unzipping out of a zip? Are you guys just using Windows Explorer? Select the two folders inside the zip and copy-paste? Make sure to replace all files?

Sorry about the troubles.

Yeah running Win 7 64 bit here. First thing I tried was copy the parts and paintschemes and paste them/overwrite all into the IL-2 ClOD Directory. Then launch. Nothing happens (yellow crosshair). Now I verified game integrity with steam, it re-downloaded the last patch version and I repeated the first steps. Copy paste, but now I only copied the parts subfolders core and bob and I've overwritten those. Still no start though.. Checked megaupload and re-downloaded the ~53 mb file and still no joy..


EDIT:::

GUYS TRY THIS:

Extract the .zip archive with winrar, then copy paste. worked for me!!!

15JG52_Brauer
04-22-2011, 07:48 PM
Update - having tried the mega upload files and failed - I downloaded the torrent - torrent was a bit slower - but it now launches - looks like I'll be late for the pub tonight :cool:

Flanker35M
04-22-2011, 07:48 PM
S!

Use 7Zip, free and never had problems :)

KDN
04-22-2011, 07:48 PM
Ok, gentlemen. Not really a problem. It is a security issue.
Once you get the zip file BEFORE extracting it, right click on it, go properties and click UNBLOCK.
Then extract and proceed as normal. :)

mayestdo
04-22-2011, 07:49 PM
Antialiasing doesn't seem to work yet :(

Mattius
04-22-2011, 07:50 PM
When actual mission screen loads it only opens in on the left top side of my screen!! Tried changing resolution to no avail!!:(

swiss
04-22-2011, 07:55 PM
When I use a smaller resolution than native I get a smaller window during missions, the GUI is fullscreen though.

1.JaVA_Platypus
04-22-2011, 07:56 PM
Thank you Luthier and team for all of the hard work!!!

LcSummers
04-22-2011, 07:58 PM
Downloaded torrent, opend with 7.zip (i only have 7.zip) and installed. Now its working.

scissorss
04-22-2011, 07:58 PM
Bug report: When the game changes resolution and goes from menu to actual gameplay, the window is very small and located in the bottom left corner of my screen, also many planes and pieces appear transparent.

AMD Phenom 2 x4
4Gig G.Skill Ram
HD5770

BigPickle
04-22-2011, 07:59 PM
to all the guys who have problems launching remember you dont need any windows compatability mode or need to turn off aero now in theory as its full screen

Zappatime
04-22-2011, 08:02 PM
Used Torrent, works ok , played one of new quick missions with quite a few planes in it (German attack -bridge).

Played for about 20 minutes fine, pressed Esc key to leave mission and it went staright to desktop, everything dead, task manager worked though so had to shut COD down through that.

Even though I'm on 'full screen' it stills flashes through the desktop screen between loading up a mission so looks like it froze when leaving the mission and on its way back to the menu screen.

JG52Krupi
04-22-2011, 08:02 PM
Patch has reduced my fps by ~10.

Hatch
04-22-2011, 08:04 PM
OOOH yes FFB.

Thank you.


And the rest of course :)

whoarmongar
04-22-2011, 08:05 PM
Ok, gentlemen. Not really a problem. It is a security issue.
Once you get the zip file BEFORE extracting it, right click on it, go properties and click UNBLOCK.
Then extract and proceed as normal. :)

Cheers KDN worked for me game now loads :)

satchenko
04-22-2011, 08:06 PM
Better FPS for me! Stutters over land still present.
In Black Death track 5-6 avg fps more.

Good work team! you are in the right direction!

Please fix radio comms!!! :grin:

etzi
04-22-2011, 08:07 PM
Thanks Luthier,

i could see a little increase of the performance.

The AA seams to work much better and the landscape seams to be sharper. Furthermore the flickering of the trees is almost gone.

Over cities the frames drop to 15. But my CPU is still @ only 20% at all cores. Is it possible to assign the cores a higher priority?

If it is possible to get better framerates over cities, this will be the best simulation ever and if you can solve this issues until launch in the U.S. the game will be complete success.

On top of that at the coastline i can see block shadows on the steep coast.

Over water i still have tearing, while vsync is on!

Orpheus
04-22-2011, 08:08 PM
When I use a smaller resolution than native I get a smaller window during missions, the GUI is fullscreen though.

Yeah I'm getting this as well, half a screen of game window and the rest desktop, while the GUI/Briefings etc are fullscreen.

Seeing an overall performance drop with this patch, I was running medium textures at 1900x1200 with a steady, if not brilliant framerate of 15-20 and no stutter after the last steam patch. With this beta patch, the stutter is back in a big way, even on low texture setting, definitely to do with the groundloading - buildings, trees etc. 24ish fps (slight increase) at 5000 feet, 13-15 still at 2000 feet, but the stutter is terrible again. Guessing this might be to do with the fact that it's now running at proper fullscreen resolution, so putting more strain on the gpu?

The texture quality setting seems to have less effect than it did before too. New briefings/etc all look great though. Thanks for all your hard work chaps!

Core i5 @ 3.6g overclocked.
ATI 5770 x 2 crossfired (only single card used tho).
Win 7 64.
4 Gig DDR3 @ 1300mhz.

Mattius
04-22-2011, 08:10 PM
Yeah I'm getting this as well, half a screen of game window and the rest desktop, while the GUI/Briefings etc are fullscreen.

Same Here.............. Gone back to previous version until that is fixed. Guess Luither is now in bed so no joy until next week!:(

15JG52_Brauer
04-22-2011, 08:12 PM
When I select anything less than my native monitor resolution it runs in a window in spite of full screen checkbox being ticked. I assume 109 mixture/backfiring was not in patch as behaviour is still the same (quick launch mission - France - start at 200m imediateley get bumping/missfire with CEM & temp effects unless I go 100% throttle - as a workaround I'm flying with 100% throttle and using prop pitch to lower RPM's - workable for me as prop pitch is on a slider, but still a real pain- maybe the next patch.....)

seiseki
04-22-2011, 08:13 PM
Wait, this isn't true fullscreen?
I can still tab and have windows on top of the game while it's running.

I didn't think that was possible unless running in window mode.
My frame rates are also worse, and the game crashed for me..

Sakis70
04-22-2011, 08:16 PM
Now i can play the game with my old 4870/512mb card!!!

Flanker35M
04-22-2011, 08:17 PM
S!

Got the same errors in Black Death when opening console. Posted them in separate thread in Technical Threads. There was a FPS boost for sure but stuttering came back more visibly when quickly testing Free Flight over Dover. Also got strange green grid anomaly on land over Calais. Extended to water. Will try clearing cache and see if it helps. Otherwise installed fine, like the new QMB interface. Would be nice to be able to change squadron too and not only skin and numbers.

Back to testing.

Kankkis
04-22-2011, 08:19 PM
i'm sure that Vsync is not working.

etzi
04-22-2011, 08:21 PM
i'm sure that Vsync is not working.

+1

over water i still have tearing, with vsync on.

Bertram W. Wooster
04-22-2011, 08:21 PM
Downloaded and installed the beta patch without problem. Correct version number is showing in title screen, app now appears to be running in true fullscreen mode and additional features such as quick mission pre-mission briefing screens are present, so I'm confident that the patch is installed and running correctly.

However, I am experiencing a couple of problem with terrain assets when I first load a mission - e.g. the free flight in a Hurricane over Dover quick mission. First, I can see all of the terrain textures loading during the first 10-20 seconds of the mission. Initially, my plane is flying over blank terrain which I can see slowly loading. From an immersion/playability standpoint, this visible texture loading really takes me out of the game. Second, even after all of the terrain textures appear to have completed loading, the vast majority of buildings are not displayed even after I have been flying around for several minutes. I can see the ground textures where the buildings should be displayed but no 3D building objects are present. Even if I fly away from the initial area for several minutes no 3D buildings show up in the new areas either. If I exit the mission and then refly, the terrain assets load very quickly and the buildings show up.

I suspect that the worker thread responsible for loading terrain assets is under so much load when a mission is first launched that it fails to load the building assets. On subsequent reflies, many of the assets are already cached and the loader is then able to load the building assets correctly too.

This issue occurs consistently and is repeatable and occurs across various in-game video settings e.g. buildings unlimited/high, building detail medium/high, terrain detail medium/high

E6500 @3.85GHz
4GB DDR2
ATI HD 4850 w/ 1GB vRAM
Win7 Premium Home 64bit

David198502
04-22-2011, 08:22 PM
way more stutters than before beta!!!london is again unflyable for me.
with kekedys mod(or however is name is) i had 20fps average and no stutters.last official patch i had 16-18fps average and some stutters over london,but it was flyable(not smooth though).no i have a slideshow.its like sightseeing and doing every four secongs a picture of the beautiful city london.

systemspecs:
-Mainboard S1156 INTEL DH55TC,Micro-ATX,bulk
-Prozessor INTEL Core i5-650,3,2GHz,LGA1156,Dual-Core,Boxed
-2x 2GB DDR3 RAM,1333MHz,CL9,KINGSTON ValueRAM
-PCI-E 2.1 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD5570,Lite Retail,Low Profile
-Windows 7Home Premium 64Bit

15JG52_Brauer
04-22-2011, 08:23 PM
Exiting from mission to check options then hitting fly again results in tiny window open in top left corner and being unable to carry on playing :confused:

karvis
04-22-2011, 08:26 PM
Hi experts,
stupid question but just in case: how do I install the new patch? Just unzip it to...where? To Program Files(x86)/Steam -folder...? That's the place where the game installed itself from DVD.

garengarch
04-22-2011, 08:27 PM
Brilliant for me - thanks.


i5 2500k @ 4ghz, gtx 460 x2, win7/64.

Froddi
04-22-2011, 08:27 PM
Works and run fine here on my old 4850 card, increase in fps also! Still cant figure out the loadout menu though lol.

LT.INSTG8R
04-22-2011, 08:28 PM
It is nice that you can now choose your loadout for the campaign but it doesn't work. I tried loading tracers ammo for the Spit but there are none present when I fire(Incendiary Tracer rounds)

mcmatt
04-22-2011, 08:31 PM
Tried one new quick - great! Fighting over France, playlable. 30 FPS.

JG52Krupi
04-22-2011, 08:32 PM
Update, its seems that its not a complete reduction in FPS its a brief reduction in FPS when I get close to land or other aircraft.

The first patch got rid of this problem for me!!!

EDIT:

Reduction in FPS was caused by AA working :oops:

mrburns
04-22-2011, 08:35 PM
Hurricane (Roto) requires multiple down gear commands to lower the gear.
The first request gives gear in neutral state and the second down gives gear down state. Is this right? What would gear neutral state be?

Other craft may also have that, but haven't notice it yet...haven't flown that many different aircraft. But the others I have flown just have a gear up/down state.

The Hurricane gear acts more like flaps.

jdbecks
04-22-2011, 08:36 PM
check what your AA setting is on, as pre patch AA did not work and now it does...so if you left it on 8 or something, its now working so you will see a drop in performance

Sauf
04-22-2011, 08:36 PM
All good here, minor reduction in fps but runs a lot smoother, heres hoping mp is more stable, no servers up atm to test :(

skouras
04-22-2011, 08:39 PM
excellent performance love the new single player missions

Luftrofl
04-22-2011, 08:40 PM
HD 5750 is still stuck at 400mhz. Anyone else who had this problem before patch still having it?

Also, every time I hit escape it takes me to desktop first, then to the menu. Same thing going back, hit escape on menu screen, desktop, then back to game.

FG28_Kodiak
04-22-2011, 08:40 PM
Do you cleaned up your Game Cache ..\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\cache ?

BigPickle
04-22-2011, 08:41 PM
big fsp drop due to a big stutters every now and again, had very little stutter pre beta.
I get the Escape key sending me back to desktop making me thing maybe the full screen thing isnt quite there yet.

BigPickle
04-22-2011, 08:42 PM
Do you cleaned up your Game Cache ..\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\cache ?

Dont clean game cache it will wipe the patch off because its not signed yet, unless thats what you want to do.

janpitor
04-22-2011, 08:44 PM
Just look right down in the hurricane cockpit...it has an H shaped switch for both flaps and gear. If you operate gear you can not operate flaps. So if you lowered flaps, the handle must go to the neutral and then you can operate gear

Hurricane (Roto) requires multiple down gear commands to lower the gear.
The first request gives gear in neutral state and the second down gives gear down state. Is this right? What would gear neutral state be?

Other craft may also have that, but haven't notice it yet...haven't flown that many different aircraft. But the others I have flown just have a gear up/down state.

The Hurricane gear acts more like flaps.

JG11Fox
04-22-2011, 08:44 PM
Want to start the new update on our servers with "launcher.exe -server"

It doesnt work. The Dos-Windows closed immediately.

Anyone an idea?


Greez Fox

Strike
04-22-2011, 08:50 PM
Noticed three general improvements:

Higher FPS at higher graphics setting and normal GPU load.

No more twitching super-rolling AI. (Yes AI still does some violent manouvers, but now not the crazy-rolls)

Force Feedback is excellent, but: when you run out of ammo, the stick still shakes when pressing cannon/mg buttons. should be a quick fix ;)

dougandtoni
04-22-2011, 08:55 PM
With the latest patch can someone else see if they can select one of the preloaded tracks. I click on select but nothing happens. Cheers

Dundas
04-22-2011, 08:55 PM
How do you turn on FFB? I don't seem to have any on my G940.

bucsher
04-22-2011, 08:55 PM
VSync is working fine for me! I know because I have maxed 60fps when flying alone over the channel. HD6850 here with W7/32

Blue Scorpion
04-22-2011, 08:56 PM
Dont clean game cache it will wipe the patch off because its not signed yet, unless thats what you want to do.

No it won't, the cache has nothing to do with steams version checking, nor is it located under the games directories, it contains temporary files created every time a mission is run . Since the initial release if the launcher crashes on startup after updating, deleting the files found in the cache has allowed to the launcher to run in many cases.

How do you turn on FFB? I don't seem to have any on my G940.

Navigate to "\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover", and open "conf.ini" in notepad or similar,then search for [rts_joystick] there should be a single entry in this block FF=x ensure it is set to 1, save and close.

One note, FFB takes a little while to affect the stick after launching into a mission there is some delay before it kicks in.

Ploughman
04-22-2011, 08:56 PM
Can't get it to launch with the new patch. A few seconds of the Target Icon and then it fails.

merlin1
04-22-2011, 08:57 PM
Hi experts,
stupid question but just in case: how do I install the new patch? Just unzip it to...where? To Program Files(x86)/Steam -folder...? That's the place where the game installed itself from DVD.

/Steam/steamapps/common/il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover

Just put it in the last map


rgr

BigPickle
04-22-2011, 08:57 PM
No it won't, the cache has nothing to do with steams version checking, nor is it located under the games directories, it contains temporary files created every time a mission is run . Since the initial release if the launcher crashes on startup after updating, deleting the files found in the cache has allowed to the launcher to run in many cases.

ok if you say it works for you.

Flanker35M
04-22-2011, 08:59 PM
S!

Ok, cleared Cache and re-launched game. Graphical issues solved. Stutter was still there no matter what so began testing. Finally disabled Grass = game smooth as ever. The FPS is much more solid at higher detail levels and resolutions. Still at Free Flight over France the industrial complexes noticeably kill FPS.

The "3 stripes of horizon" are visible up to around 1200m (~4000ft) and after that they begin to blend to the fog disappearing from sight. Not a game killer for me, but sure worth a look.

Shadows flicker on trees mostly, clouds are fine. Tracks can not be used as testing for graphical things as there ALL shadows flicker, also the ones from clouds. But noticed increase in average FPS in Black Death, which is more important than maximum. Also minimum was bit better. We could use a Loop option for tracks like in old IL-2 as they seem to run better after a few times.

The console error messages are not present in QMB at least so must be track related issues. Can it be that if track is made on other machine/version it MIGHT cause these messages in current version?

A few more patches and we will see how CrossFire will work. Eagerly waiting for that as I have another 6970HD pending already ;) Make sure to file driver feedback to AMD if any issues, but would good to hear from Luthier & Team of their experiences/issues with AMD so we can report things that actually are from drivers, not the game code.

Back to testing.

fearlessfrog
04-22-2011, 09:01 PM
With the latest patch can someone else see if they can select one of the preloaded tracks. I click on select but nothing happens. Cheers

This might be related the new full screen mode. If you turned off 'Aero' desktop composition for Launcher.exe then try putting it back on and you'll see the standard windows File Select dialog.

machoo
04-22-2011, 09:03 PM
Thanks for the patch :)

Some things seems broken though , like in the quick mission builder I select a different plane apart from the Hurricane but the Hurricane still keeps being used. FPS seem to have been lost also.

Flanker35M
04-22-2011, 09:04 PM
S!

I have Aero off and no problems with the tracks, can select them fine.

dougandtoni
04-22-2011, 09:05 PM
This might be related the new full screen mode. If you turned off 'Aero' desktop composition for Launcher.exe then try putting it back on and you'll see the standard windows File Select dialog.

Cheers dude that fixed it.:grin:

Blue Scorpion
04-22-2011, 09:09 PM
***EDIT*** beaten to it, bleh

The game now searches a different location for the trk. files. They were originally stored under "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\records" since the update the game now defaults to looking under "\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\records" just relocate your older tracks to the new location or navigate to the old directory

Ali Fish
04-22-2011, 09:13 PM
trees dont display for me ingame with any settings.

Kankkis
04-22-2011, 09:16 PM
VSync is working fine for me! I know because I have maxed 60fps when flying alone over the channel. HD6850 here with W7/32

That true, i cannot get over 60fps, but my tearing is terrible on my cockpit when turning my head with TiR, so Vsync works somehow but not disable tearing as it normally should do. Same Tearing with Vsync and without.

Overall i'm very happy with patch, FF implement is gorgeus. looks like AA working better too?

one thing what i seen too, i started QMB mission, it loaded, i change my plane different than default, it look to change, when i press fly now there is plane what was in first planeselectionscreen.

Flanker35M
04-22-2011, 09:17 PM
S!

Try clearing Cache folder, launch the game and change a setting then restart. I had houses not there and clearing cache helped with that and also the weird green grid disappeared.

utu
04-22-2011, 09:21 PM
installed and working, but to get the vsync on Aero must be ENABLED. The AA and vsync in control panel of Cod don't seem work well, then I used the settings of the nvidia control panel AA 4x and force the vsync on, it works with better performance and it is smoother.
win7 64bit, i7 860, gtx 570

flyingblind
04-22-2011, 09:23 PM
Had a quick go. Fps don't seem quite as good especially when attacking bombers but probably just need to check settings. Previous post suggested now AA is working fps may drop if it is set high. Love FFB - 109s controls feel so much heavier than Spitfire as dose cannon fire v 303s. Nice plane shake at high speed. Is it my imagination or dose the sea surface look much better with more wave variation, reflections and cloud shadows. Landscape definately better up close when I crashed.

PLebre
04-22-2011, 09:24 PM
Patch has reduced my fps by ~10.

Here too, 10-15 fps drop.
Vsync see to be ok, and the Sim feels to be running more robust.

Had played with grafical options and notice that changing "Building Detail" from Low to Very High had no impact on system perfomance, in low flight.


Good Easter!


P.S. My grafic card is ATI HD 5700

Eklund89
04-22-2011, 09:25 PM
Can sombodey post a screenshot of the new QMB screen plz? pm me if you have!

Edit: and plz compare the old 1946 FF with the new for me. plz plz

bucsher
04-22-2011, 09:29 PM
That true, i cannot get over 60fps, but my tearing is terrible on my cockpit when turning my head with TiR, so Vsync works somehow but not disable tearing as it normally should do.

It sounds strange. I also hate tearing but I don't have it.

Kankkis
04-22-2011, 09:31 PM
It sounds strange. I also hate tearing but I don't have it.

Have you tir, it not try panning pilot head with mouse.

seiseki
04-22-2011, 09:33 PM
Where is the QMB?
And is it really true fullscreen when it works just like windowmode?
I mean, tab like normal and even place windows above the game, while it's still showing in the background..

Btw, I change the amount of pre-rendered frames in Nvidia control panel from 3 to 2, and it seems like I get much less input lag now, trackIR and stick reacts better, but at the expense of framerate..

bucsher
04-22-2011, 09:42 PM
Have you tir, it not try panning pilot head with mouse.

no tir, but i panned crazy with the mouse over the channel at 60Hz and no tearing :)

edit: lol i tried to switch off aero (desktop composition) and i also have tearing with 60Hz in that way.
so please enable aero!

Blue Scorpion
04-22-2011, 09:49 PM
Can sombodey post a screenshot of the new QMB screen plz? pm me if you have!

Edit: and plz compare the old 1946 FF with the new for me. plz plz
There is no qmb, just some new missions added to quick missions group and ffb is rather simple atm, with only a few effects, but at least it is better than nothing.

Anyone who has suffered large FPS drop go into audio settings and select Ambisonc, the other multichannel audio settings hammer fps now for some odd reason

acare84
04-22-2011, 09:50 PM
I am not playing the game with gamepads but I just tried Xbox 360 wireless gamepad and FF is not working. Also I tried Logitech Rumblepad 2 and FF is working with it. I think there is a problem with gamepads/joysticks that are using XInput for FF. Sturmovik 1946 doesn't have problem with Xbox 360 gamepad and FF is working in it BTW.

Orpheus
04-22-2011, 09:52 PM
Clearing the cache does help the stuttering a bit. I've also got the 'no trees' issue at various detail settings, first they were there, now they're not (post cache clear).

'Very low' trees settings (when it did work) seem to be the same as 'off' (i.e. no trees at all, just the green patches), while 'low' seems overpopulated. Another tree bug to go with the disappearing ones?

Kankkis
04-22-2011, 09:52 PM
no tir, but i panned crazy with the mouse over the channel at 60Hz and no tearing :)

edit: lol i tried to switch off aero (desktop composition) and i also have tearing with 60Hz in that way.
so please enable aero!

My aero is default setting because if i disable it i cannot load joystick setting and i dont get any benefit to fps when disable it. Don't pan with the mouse like crazy, make smooth movement and check your cockpit Windows frame.

reflected
04-22-2011, 09:56 PM
I'm getting more stutters and lower FPS with this new patch, especially at ground level (buildings again I suppose) :( It was pretty smooth before this one.

and also this:

TheEditor
04-22-2011, 09:59 PM
I can't play with a lower screen res without it being a window in the top left corner of the screen. So lower the resolution and the game plays in a window now! Also frames are down by 10.

Ali Fish
04-22-2011, 10:01 PM
using lesser than native resolution is fine for me. friend of mine also has it in a window though. GTX280 here with latest official drivers. desktop composition (aero) off.

flying around ive not needed to look at FPS figures at all really. i have been able to set some higher settings too. even at 20-25 fps its very very smooth. i believe that was with the trees being off issue. when i jump down in rez to 1600 x 900 iam nearly doubling the frames over the sea with about a 25% increase over land. however it stutters more. nothing removed from cache here.

I have noticed some graphical artifacts. like flashing tubes of thin polygons eminating from various parts of the aircraft. i had simlilar problems with ARMA2.

reflected
04-22-2011, 10:01 PM
Oh, and the QMB is nice, too bad it doesn't work. I no matter what loadout and convergence I save, it's not what the mission would use.

Also, visual weathering doesn't work either.

Kankkis
04-22-2011, 10:03 PM
Oh, and the QMB is nice, too bad it doesn't work. I no matter what loadout and convergence I save, it's not what the mission would use.

Also, visual weathering doesn't work either.

And no plane selection, it uses the plane wath you select before mission load.

Bakelit
04-22-2011, 10:10 PM
I can now see the pre mission aircraft window!
However choosing skins and markings does not stick. In the single missions its always back to the default regardless.

Overall another performance boost which is very nice. hasve to test more tomorrow.

JG52Krupi
04-22-2011, 10:13 PM
Sounds like im not the only ones experiencing problems with this patch :(

anavas44
04-22-2011, 10:18 PM
First of all thanks Luthier to you and your team for the speed in fixing things and updating the game. I also really appreciate your honest answers and dedication. You should rest a bit mate!

Well, after testing a bit the patch I noticed no decrease in performance, only that when switching between planes via Ctrl + F2 I still get the frozen screen for about 3 or 4 seconds. Also I noticed that there is a graphic glitch in the other plane indicators (I know, I should fly with them off LOL). Please check my screenshot below:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/anavas44/th_IL2.jpg (http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/anavas44/IL2.jpg)

Does it happen to anybody else?

EDIT: Could it be possible to add an option under controls to disable TrackIR in EXTERNAL cameras? Is tad annoying having to press F9 each time I use an external cam

kakisdf
04-22-2011, 10:21 PM
Thank you for your hard work!

skouras
04-22-2011, 10:23 PM
the patch rocks
better performance for me:-)

Eldur
04-22-2011, 10:28 PM
First off, thanks a ton for the update. Great stuff done in so little time.
Really love the way now how missions are loaded, it's possible to change gunbelts etc now in Single Missions before entering them.

Force Feedback is excellent, but: when you run out of ammo, the stick still shakes when pressing cannon/mg buttons. should be a quick fix ;)

Haven't noticed that, but I haven't run OOA yet.

One note, FFB takes a little while to affect the stick after launching into a mission there is some delay before it kicks in.

Yes, it even disappeared after a while and came back later on. Had this several times.

I also tried to "tweak" the effects like I did in Il-2 by just removing all files except shake and spring.ffe (parts\core\FF folder) and it had no effect at all. Seems all shaking effects rely just on the shake.ffe. Toned that one down a lot then with the ForceEditor.

Some optimizations would be nice, especially the elevator pressure depending on speed and thrust, like it's done in Rise of Flight (reving up the engine on the ground stiffens the elevator without affecting the ailerons).

But again, thanks! CoD is getting better every week, I like those "friday development updates" :D

PS: Had an Appcrash after running down some Defiants after a while. Never flew for so long because of the performance but I've read about crashes already and I hope they'll get sorted out soon. It's like a miracle to be actually able to fly and do something with a below-specs HD3870 even at medium settings + shadows and buildings+trees very low (Black Death AVG 30fps).

Rusty_M
04-22-2011, 10:30 PM
It seems to work ok, but some of the sea looks like it's made of grey concrete in the black death track.

Les
04-22-2011, 10:36 PM
Got patched up without any trouble.

Turned vsync on and was still getting tearing, even though I'd lost approximately 12fps on average, using the Black Death benchmark track.

Even worse, started getting major image corruption in-game, with thick lines of bare terrain showing through the ocean, and similar parallel strips of bare green showing through on land. (I see 'Reflected' has posted a picture of something similar.) Turned v-sync back off and was still getting the corrupted image in-game, even after restarting.

Saw no difference in anti-aliasing either, whether it was on 8 or turned off, and changing it had no impact on the graphical corruption either.

The only video settings I changed were 'V-sync' and, later, 'Anti-aliasing', everything else was left turned on and maxed out as before. I only noticed the graphics corruption after turning v-sync on and restarting the game, but it might have been there from the start.

Reverted to the prior version of the game (1.00.14101) and the graphical corruption was gone.

Didn't re-enable Windows Aero, will try that and see how it goes...

No luck, re-installed the patch, played the Black Death track again and still got the big lines of bare earth showing in the water, with no adjustments made to the video settings, ie. no v-sync enabled and no restart required. Also got a crash to desktop when the Black Death track finished and tried to go back to the player menu screen.

Cleared 'Cache' in 1C SoftClub section, no difference.

Makes me wonder if I should do a back-up now in case these graphical anomalies are still there with the official version of the patch.

GTX580
i7 920
Windows 7 64-bit
1920x1200
Fullscreen

ARGH
04-22-2011, 10:40 PM
how is FFB?? is it as powerfull as it is in IL2 original version?? i can't wait i must know!

Jediteo
04-22-2011, 10:44 PM
First off, thanks a ton for the update. Great stuff done in so little time.
Really love the way now how missions are loaded, it's possible to change gunbelts etc now in Single Missions before entering them.



Haven't noticed that, but I haven't run OOA yet.



Yes, it even disappeared after a while and came back later on. Had this several times.

I also tried to "tweak" the effects like I did in Il-2 by just removing all files except shake and spring.ffe (parts\core\FF folder) and it had no effect at all. Seems all shaking effects rely just on the shake.ffe. Toned that one down a lot then with the ForceEditor.

Some optimizations would be nice, especially the elevator pressure depending on speed and thrust, like it's done in Rise of Flight (reving up the engine on the ground stiffens the elevator without affecting the ailerons).

But again, thanks! CoD is getting better every week, I like those "friday development updates" :D

PS: Had an Appcrash after running down some Defiants after a while. Never flew for so long because of the performance but I've read about crashes already and I hope they'll get sorted out soon. It's like a miracle to be actually able to fly and do something with a below-specs HD3870 even at medium settings + shadows and buildings+trees very low (Black Death AVG 30fps).

How did you edit the FF, I'd like to increase the stick tention on my MSFFB2

David198502
04-22-2011, 10:47 PM
for me this patch is horrible.i dont know why but this new texture loading system leads to massive stutters.although you cant call it stutters anymore,its more a slideshow with a new image every four seconds.especially when planes are flying by close, the game just freeezes.i didnt had that before the patch!first i thought i only have these massive stutters only over london again,but i have it over land everywhere and particular in dogfights(missions i made in FMB and played well before with 20-30fps average and no stutters at all).im dissapointed this time.sorry for beeing so negative.

systemspecs:
-Mainboard S1156 INTEL DH55TC,Micro-ATX,bulk
-Prozessor INTEL Core i5-650,3,2GHz,LGA1156,Dual-Core,Boxed
-2x 2GB DDR3 RAM,1333MHz,CL9,KINGSTON ValueRAM
-PCI-E 2.1 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD5570,Lite Retail,Low Profile
-Windows 7Home Premium 64Bit

Jediteo
04-22-2011, 10:49 PM
I find that you have to alt-tab out of the game, and click something else and then click CoD. Seems to make it run a lot better.

Zappatime
04-22-2011, 10:51 PM
I've tried this new 024 quick mission several times now, and on every run the Italian bomber pairs 'stick' in mid flight when theyre over the land area, props still turning, but just stick at that altitude and not moving, they can get damaged by gun fire/flak/collisions but remain fixed in mid air. It also happened with a couple of Stukas too on one of the runs; everything else carries on as normal:confused:

Anybody else had this?

seiseki
04-22-2011, 10:58 PM
I'm getting awful graphical glitches related to what seems to be LOD Models..
When selecting my Aircraft skin, etc, I see a low-res model..

When I'm flying the hurricane (rotol) It's like a low res LOD model is occupying the same space in the cockpit since there's two sticks, one which is super low res and low poly and the regular one..

jf1981
04-22-2011, 11:01 PM
Not too bad with that new patch. But I discover new bugs like hitting the ground with spit, propeller out & lost end of right wing, but however the plane continued to fly with normal power and stable, not even banking right.
See picture of the plane, it did fly normally however (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198037945124/screenshot/540640198791384216)

Notice the grey square on the top left, at the location of map when it does appear. However the grey square would never disappear and remains here, hiding a part of the landscape.

Tvrdi
04-22-2011, 11:02 PM
Vsync is working but only if forced in nvidia control panel and with aero off......I set AA in nvidia CP to 2X and in game - to off.....noticed fps drop (10-15fps; from 65 avg-to 60 avg)) but its smoother now. Finaly. Still I noticed more fps drops in mission with 6 planes in dogfight.....it dropped to 35 fps avg....

Thee_oddball
04-22-2011, 11:06 PM
Sounds like im not the only ones experiencing problems with this patch :(
Patch ? from what i am reading it sounds more like a virus:(:(:(

Thee_oddball
04-22-2011, 11:17 PM
HD 5750 is still stuck at 400mhz. Anyone else who had this problem before patch still having it?

Also, every time I hit escape it takes me to desktop first, then to the menu. Same thing going back, hit escape on menu screen, desktop, then back to game.

i have the same card, it says 400mhz at idle but whne a mission starts it will max out.

hockeywarrior
04-22-2011, 11:24 PM
for me this patch is horrible.i dont know why but this new texture loading system leads to massive stutters.although you cant call it stutters anymore,its more a slideshow with a new image every four seconds.especially when planes are flying by close, the game just freeezes.i didnt had that before the patch!first i thought i only have these massive stutters only over london again,but i have it over land everywhere and particular in dogfights(missions i made in FMB and played well before with 20-30fps average and no stutters at all).im dissapointed this time.sorry for beeing so negative.

systemspecs:
-Mainboard S1156 INTEL DH55TC,Micro-ATX,bulk
-Prozessor INTEL Core i5-650,3,2GHz,LGA1156,Dual-Core,Boxed
-2x 2GB DDR3 RAM,1333MHz,CL9,KINGSTON ValueRAM
-PCI-E 2.1 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD5570,Lite Retail,Low Profile
-Windows 7Home Premium 64BitYeah I have the same issues with this patch. My performance is MUCH worse than it was before the patch, with microstutters back in full swing ... oh joy. My FPS is probably a solid 10 less than before as well. I'm even getting FPS drops over water which hasn't existed since the game was unpatched!

In addition, the AI continues to defy the laws of physics and they still haven't fixed the huge gamebreaking bug that limits the RPM of the Spitfire to 2400 when in combat.

This patch needs some serious reworking before it's released to the public. I'm not sure what you guys did but it killed any performance gains that you made in the previous patches.

41Sqn_Stormcrow
04-22-2011, 11:24 PM
Is the AI at least back to initial status? After the last official patch the AI is just a plain pain in the a** ...

It was better before I believe. As it is now it is fun killer turning like a gyro having rocket engines instead of piston engines and stuff.

Eldur
04-22-2011, 11:33 PM
How did you edit the FF, I'd like to increase the stick tention on my MSFFB2

http://www.file-upload.net/download-3379765/ForceEdit.zip.html

Just open and change the .ffe files. But I doubt it's possible to increase the forces furthermore.

wilburnator
04-22-2011, 11:35 PM
Now my game won't launch. I get the loading symbol and then the launcher stops responding.:(

I7 975
ATI 5770 x 3
6 Gigs DDR3
Win 7 64 bit

Sauf
04-22-2011, 11:44 PM
Now my game won't launch. I get the loading symbol and then the launcher stops responding.:(


Same but I think its steam, rebooted my pc and now it is "updating steam platform" and has been for last 30 mins, up to 48%.

Luftrofl
04-22-2011, 11:45 PM
i have the same card, it says 400mhz at idle but whne a mission starts it will max out.

Hmm, can't figure out why mine is staying at 400. If anyone else is having this please post.

ARGH
04-22-2011, 11:49 PM
getting a gameworld.dll not supported error upon launching any mission or quick mission or anything with being in-game inside the aircraft.......:confused:

NVM i am not so smart as i thought i was. i am actually quite stupid. i did not copy the files correctly and plus i had to unblock the zip file berfore extracting.

har har....

Triggaaar
04-22-2011, 11:53 PM
Ok, gentlemen. Not really a problem. It is a security issue.
Once you get the zip file BEFORE extracting it, right click on it, go properties and click UNBLOCK.
Then extract and proceed as normal. :)Thank you for that, I had the same problem and this fixed it.

FFB with MSFF2 works (may be a bit buggy, not sure yet, will test tomorrow)

Thanks Ilya for the work (and please fix AMD 6970s not running at full clock speed)

Triggaaar
04-22-2011, 11:56 PM
Hmm, can't figure out why mine is staying at 400. If anyone else is having this please post.Quite a few of us having the same problem with several ATI/AMD cards. Possibly to do with the game not running in true full screen (although I thought that was fixed in a patch).

Froddi
04-22-2011, 11:58 PM
I've tried this new 024 quick mission several times now, and on every run the Italian bomber pairs 'stick' in mid flight when theyre over the land area, props still turning, but just stick at that altitude and not moving, they can get damaged by gun fire/flak/collisions but remain fixed in mid air. It also happened with a couple of Stukas too on one of the runs; everything else carries on as normal:confused:

Anybody else had this?

Yup noticed the same thing as you with the Italian bombers!