Official system requirements

[Tree_UK]

Its a strange response from Luthier, multi GPU's being supported does not mean that there will be a toggle switch in setup options for dual video cards, I guess he's saying that yes 2/3 cards will work but the game as not been coded to take advantage of them, but then again Il2 was the same but you could force SLI (nvidia) through the driver settings. Why we cannot get a straight answer on this though is anyone's guess. :confused:

[swiss]

I dont think he was referring to multi-monitor setups at all.Only multi-gpu performance(sli and crossfire)sort of answering my question but not completely.We'll just have to wait, I hope the game would benefit from 2 gpus otherwise Ill be very sad.



What applications are supported with SLI technology?
SLI technology can be enabled for every gaming application, including both OpenGL and Direct3D gaming applications. SLI technology provides either 3D performance scaling using alternate frame rendering (AFR) or split-frame rendering (SFR) or increased visual quality using the SLI Antialiasing mode. In order to provide the optimal 'out-of-box' experience for its customers, NVIDIA has created an extensive set of optimized game profiles which enable SLI scaling automatically. The full list of these SLI-optimized games can be found here. For applications not found in this list, simply follow these quick instructions to set up a new game profile to enable SLI technology. Information about professional application support can be found here.


Why don't all games see performance increases?
Applications which tax the GPU will see tremendous performance improvements of up to 2x with SLI technology when using two graphics cards. Most of today's hottest games and as well as next-generation games fall into this category. However, some applications, typically older generation applications, are limited by factors other than the GPU's processing power.

The most common limitation is the CPU. If an application becomes CPU bound, no additional graphics power can improve performance. This situation is most common at low screen resolutions like 1024x768 with no additional functionality turned on. Turning on antialiasing and anisotropic filtering or switching to higher resolutions can often move the processing requirements back to the GPU.

For CPU-bound applications, NVIDIA offers a new SLI rendering mode called SLI Antialiasing. This rendering mode allows you to enable SLI8x, *SLI16x, or SLI32x (for quad SLI only) antialiasing and enhance the visual quality of any gaming application.


http://www.geforce.com/#/Hardware/Technologies/SLI/faq


does not mean that there will be a toggle switch in setup options for dual video cards

???

[nearmiss]

In IL2 there is a switch in the conf.ini file where you can select cores.
I leave at the default, but it is available.

Yes, I have a quad processor too.

Have confidence in the developer. The processor cores and multi-threading is not going away for awhile. You can expect the ability will be available to those who want to more specifically manage their hardware.

Especially, with dx11 on the near horizon there will be alot more to the COD configuration than the 10 year old IL2.

[Tree_UK]

Yes it appears that way Swiss, if its not known that dual cards make any difference to how the game performs then I would imagine that Cliff Of Dover falls into the the typically older generation applications.


"Applications which tax the GPU will see tremendous performance improvements of up to 2x with SLI technology when using two graphics cards. Most of today's hottest games and as well as next-generation games fall into this category. However, some applications, typically older generation applications, are limited by factors other than the GPU's processing power"

[Tree_UK]

In IL2 there is a switch in the conf.ini file where you can select cores.
I leave at the default, but it is available.

Yes, I have a quad processor too.

Have confidence in the developer. The processor cores and multi-threading is not going away for awhile. You can expect the ability will be available to those who want to more specifically manage their hardware.

Especially, with dx11 on the near horizon there will be alot more to the COD configuration than the 10 year old IL2.

Thats true Nearmess, but there wasn't any switch for multi GPU's which is what is being discussed. However you could force SLI through the driver or 3rd party programs such as nHancer which did increase performance, it seems this may be the same for Cliffs of Dover, however we currently have no idea if it will increase perforamce. Worth noting though for anyone about to splash out on two high end GPU cards.

[CharveL]

Yes it appears that way Swiss, if its not known that dual cards make any difference to how the game performs then I would imagine that Cliff Of Dover falls into the the typically older generation applications.


Not at all.

This is a simulation not a typical Call of Duty type game. It doesn't matter how "new" an application is if it has to calculate complex damage modelling instead of hit boxes/hit points, Flight modeling instead of up/down/left/right, Artificial Intelligence instead of scripted movements, and large sandbox maps instead of corridors.

Point being that, much like other newer sims like ArmA2, you can't expect the GPU to do all these calculations no matter how much you might wish it to much like you can't expect your shiny new 2000dpi mouse to make your game run any faster. It's the CPU's job, not Oleg's.

Feel free to pile on more AA + AF or screen resolution though and be happy for that.

[Novotny]

I've just posted this at SimHQ too, but here goes: SLI-Crossfire performance is entirely dependent on driver implementation. It is not coded for within the software itself. I expect Tree to argue with me, but the truth is, as usual, he's wrong, and does not understand how it works.

[Tree_UK]

I've just posted this at SimHQ too, but here goes: SLI-Crossfire performance is entirely dependent on driver implementation. It is not coded for within the software itself. I expect Tree to argue with me, but the truth is, as usual, he's wrong, and does not understand how it works.

sigh.... what your saying is that you have never seen in any other title an option for using dual cards, well you are wrong on that my friend.

[Novotny]

You don't understand the difference between choosing to allow Physx support and running SLI.

[nearmiss]

Yes, I missed that about multi-gpu. I really haven't thought much about SLI or crossfire, since my last system build. I realized at that time there really wasn't much performance difference between SLI and a good single card. I concluded it was just more heat and problems than I wanted to deal with for my evening ventures into IL2 land. (10 yr old sim)

I understand, the SLI and crossfire have developed a great deal in the past 2 years. I think planning for the future makes sense, but I will still want to wait until I have good familiarity with the BOB COD. I believe patience pays, especially when taking on improved technologies.

However, the more I think on this I think it is less an issue for BOB developers as it is for the processor/VC manufacturers.

[Tree_UK]

You don't understand the difference between choosing to allow Physx support and running SLI.

Of course I do, you enable physics within the driver, you can select one card to handle this alone. However most modern titles such as Call Of Duty Worl at war allow you to select dual cards within the setup without having to go into the driver, for SLI that is. You may not choose to use this option because you may want to use one card to handle the physics, but the option is within the game non the less.

[Novotny]

As said on SimHQ, look up r_gpusync. You really don't know what you're talking about.

[swiss]

In IL2 there is a switch in the conf.ini file where you can select cores.
I leave at the default, but it is available.


You can only select which cpu core you want it to run on. Big deal.



As said on SimHQ, look up r_gpusync. You really don't know what you're talking about.

He can't hear you.

[Tree_UK]

As said on SimHQ, look up r_gpusync. You really don't know what you're talking about.

your not listening to what Im saying novotny, you said over at simhg, that no games have an option to select dual cards within the setup. Well some games do.

[swiss]

your not listening to what Im saying novotny, you said over at simhg, that no games have an option to select dual cards within the setup. Well some games do.

And you implied without that that misterious option, SLI is unvailable.

[Tree_UK]

And you implied without that that misterious option, SLI is unvailable.

No i didnt re-read my earlier post (below) I stated that you will be able to use the driver software or third party software such as nHancer (nvidia only) to setup SLI, just like you could in Il2 which showed a performance increase with dual cards. However what we dont know is what the benefit of this will be in 'Cliffs of dover' because like luthier as stated they dont know whether this will show a performance increase.


Thats true Nearmess, but there wasn't any switch for multi GPU's which is what is being discussed. However you could force SLI through the driver or 3rd party programs such as nHancer which did increase performance, it seems this may be the same for Cliffs of Dover, however we currently have no idea if it will increase perforamce. Worth noting though for anyone about to splash out on two high end GPU cards.

[Royraiden]

Currently Rise of Flight does not support multi gpu setups, and it is something that the developers need to do and they already stated that way, they are working on it.I just dont want this to happen with Cliffs of Dover. But there's no need to create an endless discussion about this, we asked, Luthier already said something, now we wait and see.And having a cpu intensive game in no way means that adding a second gpu wont increase performance, obviously it wont be a 80-100% increase as in other games but something like a 30-50% increase should happen.Then again we just need to wait, I am just happy that the game is coming out and I dont even know how its gonna run to begin with,so no more complaints from me concerning this.

[lbuchele]

I'll wait the release.I need to know if we will have any gains(noticeable gains,in fact)
AND if COD deals OK with SLI without microstutters to justify the extra expense with another GTX 580.

[Cpt Dremmen]

im considering eating a vegetable at the moment, 3 guesses to what it is or it gets it

[Chivas]

So I'm confussed....do the developers write their game code to take advantage of SLI/Crossfire or does the GPU company write drivers to enhance each particular game to run with multi/gpus. Or do the developer and graphics companies work together on this. We know that the COD developer had contact with Nvidia, but not AMD.

I find Luthier's statements provide very little insight to this question. It certainly sounds like his evasive answer suggests there will be no advantage to using SLI or Crossfire.

[nearmiss]

So I'm confussed....do the developers write their game code to take advantage of SLI/Crossfire or does the GPU company write drivers to enhance each particular game to run with multi/gpus. Or do the developer and graphics companies work together on this. We know that the COD developer had contact with Nvidia, but not AMD.

I find Luthier's statements provide very little insight to this question. It certainly sounds like his evasive answer suggests there will be no advantage to using SLI or Crossfire.

I've been doing a bit of research and there is still more focus on using single cards than sli/crossfire for gaming, i.e.,tom's hardware and others.

Then of course I may be biased, since I use an 8800 GTS 512MB card. I built the system 2 years ago. I'm thinking I'm a go with BOB COD (no changes needed)

I'm definitely not going to sweat it in the meantime. I'm going to hold off the panic buttons until I've installed and used the BOB COD for couple weeks at least.

[CharveL]

So I'm confussed....do the developers write their game code to take advantage of SLI/Crossfire or does the GPU company write drivers to enhance each particular game to run with multi/gpus. Or do the developer and graphics companies work together on this. We know that the COD developer had contact with Nvidia, but not AMD.

I find Luthier's statements provide very little insight to this question. It certainly sounds like his evasive answer suggests there will be no advantage to using SLI or Crossfire.

Did you read any of this thread?

[nearmiss]

Did you read any of this thread?

Take it easy,,, this is just a discussion forums. Overlook things you can condesend you'll make more friends.

[lbuchele]

Take it easy,,, this is just a discussion forums. Overlook things you can condesend you'll make more friends.

Good advice for life in general.

[Chivas]

Did you read any of this thread?

Yes and there are alot contradictory statements posted here.

[Novotny]

Briefly: Ilya can't answer that question because it is not his area of responsibility - his team writes the rendering code, which ostensibly is produced for either ATI, nvidia or any card manufacturer whose hardware supports the DirectX APIs; they have tested with some popular cards. I say 'ostensibly' because both nvidia and ATI sometimes hand over lots of cash to influence a team to code in a particular way that suits their solution best; we don't know if either the red or green team are 'helping' in this way, though I'd guess neither are.

Multiple card set-ups are controlled at the driver level, and theoretically there should be good scaling, however the proof will be in the pudding.

I'd really advise against buying anything until we have some benchmarks in hand.

[nearmiss]

I'd really advise against buying anything until we have some benchmarks in hand.

1+

[furbs]

Well im getting a Nvidia 580 in 2 weeks time and i cant see that card in the specs...should i be worried?...it should be fine i expect...but it did make me blink :)

[Tree_UK]

Well im getting a Nvidia 580 in 2 weeks time and i cant see that card in the specs...should i be worried?...it should be fine i expect...but i did make me blink :)

You should be alright Furbs, your in a better position than those who've splashed out on dual cards. Its just another Cliffs of Dover riddle as to whether SLI/Crossfire will work.:grin:

[Tree_UK]

.
I find Luthier's statements provide very little insight to this question. It certainly sounds like his evasive answer suggests there will be no advantage to using SLI or Crossfire.

Luthier, evasive? Nahhh. :grin:

[swiss]

let's play some "if - then"

Question: Will CoD gain from a SLI/xfire setup?
Luthier:yes

> next Q: more fps for Sli or xfire?
Now L is screwed double:
1st: he doesn't have the benchmarks for all possible combos.
2nd: he would recommend one brand over the other. Earlier he said there will be NO difference.
- User A gets better results with the expected inferior setup than user B with L's recommend system: Whining.


> how much gain of fps can I expect?
Whatever number he gives you is pure guessing as you don't know his exact setup.
- Ppl can't reproduce the numbers: Whining, lier, bastard, we need tar an feathers...


Ergo: He's well advised to STFU, something he probably learned in this forum.

[BadAim]

My goodness, we love to complicate things around here..... There are very few games that show significant performance increases with multi-core (or multi) GPU's at standard resolutions. It's probably not worth buying multiple cards or a multi-core card for anyone who is not running either multiple monitors or a very large monitor at very high resolution, that's all Luthier was saying. If you have a setup like this it will work, but you might not get a massive return for your buck. Simples.

Edit: and what Swiss said.......

[Royraiden]

Cant believe this debate about dual GPU's is still going on, whatever it is for CoD its a done deal now.

Also if CoD does support SLI and or Crossfire its probably the first hard core flight sim to do so ... I imagine it doesn't, but that's just a hunch on my part, its not a deal breaker on my part either.

Some people just like to moan I guess?

Its not a deal breaker because you dont have such setup.I understand that not everyone has more than one gpu but setups like that have been increasing a lot and every year more and more games take advantage of it.I almost double my frames per second in almost all of my games when I bought my second card for less than half the price of what the first was.Plus there are a lot of people running multi monitor setups and at resolutions higher than 1920x1200 a second gpu is a must.This is something that should not be left out.I dont care about dx11 I know great graphics can be achieved with dx10 but not having a performance gain with sli or crossfire would be sad if there isnt.This is my first and only complaint so far,it even isnt a complaint is just that im concerned with the situation and not being sure.As I said before there's nothing left but waiting.Maybe the game runs perfectly with just one gpu, lets hope for that.

[Royraiden]

My goodness, we love to complicate things around here..... There are very few games that show significant performance increases with multi-core (or multi) GPU's at standard resolutions. It's probably not worth buying multiple cards or a multi-core card for anyone who is not running either multiple monitors or a very large monitor at very high resolution, that's all Luthier was saying. If you have a setup like this it will work, but you might not get a massive return for your buck. Simples.

Edit: and what Swiss said.......

Are you serious????What are you playing super mario 64????Read my post above and if you dont believe me then go and check some benchmarks or search for videos on the web.1920x1080 is the standard resolution right now and having the benefit of a second gpu can make the difference between barely playable and really enjoyable.I know this for a fact as I have experienced it and others with similar setups would tell you the same.

[Royraiden]

You presume too much my friend ... my second rig has two ATI HD4870's in Crossfire, but that's not my flight sim rig.

Whatever, I'm not prepared to get inter-wound in any more of this negativity, it just brings the enthusiasm and anticipation of the product down and is bound to put off newcomers to the hobby ... IMHO.

Thats just me though, some folk seem to get off on it ... and I'm not talking about you :)

Have you had problems with that CF setup?People seem to ditch CF because of driver problems.And no Im not presuming you are, just asking.Im going to stop posting about the subject as its clear that we are not getting to any agreement on it.So for the sake of the thread Im not gonna post anything related to it.

[swiss]

Plus there are a lot of people running multi monitor setups and at resolutions higher than 1920x1200 a second gpu is a must.

Et voilà. If they need SLI anyway, why does the fps increase matter so much?
The second card is there either way.
Wait. Benchmark. Share results.

[Royraiden]

Occasional problems ... I'm actually typing on the Crossfire rig just now, some games seem to benefit from it, others less so, no flight sim I've tried on it does.

Call of Duty 4 benefits greatly from Crossfire, others like a fully patched and modded STALKER (the original one) don't like Crossfire at all, it's OK though because you can make profiles for each game and then make a short-cut to the desktop, my profile for STALKER disables Crossfire and uses just one card, then say for example I fire up COD 4, it will use Crossfire without a re-boot.

Sorry if I seemed negative in my last post, but the constant bitching some do does drag things down.
No problem,lets just wait and see.

[=WF=RAW]

i really pray for no glitches while using nvidia 3d vision ingame...
i managed to enable 3d on current il-2. 3d cockpit is awesome, distance from enemy aircraft senses more realistic... but this doubling crosshair of colimmator looks terrible.
hope maddox team now set correct distance of all and any elements of ingame environment.

[Oleg Maddox]

Occasional problems ... I'm actually typing on the Crossfire rig just now, some games seem to benefit from it, others less so, no flight sim I've tried on it does.

Call of Duty 4 benefits greatly from Crossfire, others like a fully patched and modded STALKER (the original one) don't like Crossfire at all, it's OK though because you can make profiles for each game and then make a short-cut to the desktop, my profile for STALKER disables Crossfire and uses just one card, then say for example I fire up COD 4, it will use Crossfire without a re-boot.

Sorry if I seemed negative in my last post, but the constant bitching some do does drag things down.

BTW: I'm on a 27" 1920x1080 LCD for both rigs, the GTX 570 SC is fine on everything I've tried it at this resolution so far, and I use a secondary LCD for FSX GPS ETC on that one too.

Everything is supported, but testing of advantage from SLI we don't plan. It will work anyway.

[Oleg Maddox]

i really pray for no glitches while using nvidia 3d vision ingame...
i managed to enable 3d on current il-2. 3d cockpit is awesome, distance from enemy aircraft senses more realistic... but this doubling crosshair of colimmator looks terrible.
hope maddox team now set correct distance of all and any elements of ingame environment.

Stereo with glasses in most cases is the task of the card manufacturer and especially their drivers.
I know that some modern features of different 3D engines are not polished in 3D glasses drivers. There is some time problems with various of occlusion, SSD, multiple shadows, etc

Just several days ago we was need to switch off some advanced graphics features that to make product running well in a stereo mode with LCD glasses.

[Luftwaffepilot]

Stereo with glasses in most cases is the task of the card manufacturer and especially their drivers.
I know that some modern features of different 3D engines are not polished in 3D glasses drivers. There is some time problems with various of occlusion, SSD, multiple shadows, etc

Just several days ago we was need to switch off some advanced graphics features that to make product running well in a stereo mode with LCD glasses.

So we "normals" have to suffer under the 3D stuff in a way?

[Luftwaffepilot]

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8071032709/m/5151024809


"IL2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover requires a onetime online activation, using the Tages system you will receive 5 activations and a new install every month."


When I install it on my machine, then upgrade it totally with OS reinstall, will I be able to install it again without problems?
I'm heavily confused by the part in bold letters.

[fireflyerz]

Tages system .... http://www.tagesprotection.com/main.htm .... good greif.

[Dano]

No dynamic campaign? That's not good to hear :(

Are we going to be in a WoP style campaign where a mission has to be completed to advance to the next one or will there be branches?

[Flyby]

Oleg,
Can you tell us if Your new sim will take advantage of more than 1 gig ( recommended) of video ram?
thanks,
Flyby out

[JG52Uther]

tages system .... http://www.tagesprotection.com/main.htm .... Good greif.
+10000000!

[Luftwaffepilot]

Tages system .... http://www.tagesprotection.com/main.htm .... good greif.


Interesting read, but I couldn't find an answer to my question, unfortunately.
Thx anyways.

[TheSwede]

No dynamic campaign? That's not good to hear :(

Are we going to be in a WoP style campaign where a mission has to be completed to advance to the next one or will there be branches?

If you have played the original scripted campaign in Il2 there is a switch where you can turn on/off "Mission success" or something.

I dont think they develop a full blown simulator and throws in a arcade "kill 10 bombers before next level!!!" feature.

Its just common sense. Dont panic.

[addman]

If you have played the original scripted campaign in Il2 there is a switch where you can turn on/off "Mission success" or something.

I dont think they develop a full blown simulator and throws in a arcade "kill 10 bombers before next level!!!" feature.

Its just common sense. Dont panic.

If I remember it correctly that "Mission Success" switch wasn't in the game until after some updates because I remember not being able to finish a campaign mission and had to do it over and over again. I actually didn't finish the russian campaign because of that.

[fireflyerz]

Interesting read, but I couldn't find an answer to my question, unfortunately.
Thx anyways.

No , me neither , but dont worry, just as long as you pay for the game you can then spend weeks on end grinding your teeth over the complicated security system will keep reminding you every time you try to play off line that although you dont have to be online to play , your game will terminate if you dont go online , ubi will say that we did warn you with our statement.....

"IL2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover requires a onetime online activation, using the Tages system you will receive 5 activations and a new install every month."
........ which dosnt make any sense but oh well ..... dont forget to pay!

[T}{OR]

When I install it on my machine, then upgrade it totally with OS reinstall, will I be able to install it again without problems?
I'm heavily confused by the part in bold letters.

Yes. The way I understood it you get to install it 5 times a month.

Tages system .... http://www.tagesprotection.com/main.htm .... good greif.

Very interesting...

[addman]

Damn it! I re-install my games 6 times a month, guess it's a no buy for me then.;)

[Dano]

If you have played the original scripted campaign in Il2 there is a switch where you can turn on/off "Mission success" or something.

I dont think they develop a full blown simulator and throws in a arcade "kill 10 bombers before next level!!!" feature.

Its just common sense. Dont panic.

Was added at a later point as already mentioned, also the scripted missions in IL2 were able to be branched so you had could have a different set of missions each time you played it, hopefully CoD will use the same system.

[Royraiden]

Damn it! I re-install my games 6 times a month, guess it's a no buy for me then.;)

Why do you re install so much and so often?

[addman]

Why do you re install so much and so often?

LOL! It was a joke, aimed at those who don't "condone" DRM, so to speak.:grin:

[Royraiden]

LOL! It was a joke, aimed at those who don't "condone" DRM, so to speak.:grin:

Lol ok.

[JG52Uther]

Yes. The way I understood it you get to install it 5 times a month.




The way it has been explained at ubi is:

''You get 5 activations, however once you've used them all you may have one new re install once a month there after. So even after you've used your first 5 activations you are still able to install and activate the game, its simply limited in frequency.''

[T}{OR]

That is how ms-kleaneasy (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8071032709/m/3891052709) understands it.

Bear in mind I've not used it this is my understanding from what I've been told.

I see it the way I posted. You use all 5, and then after 5 months you have 5 more. Hopefully I am right, because one install only every months doesn't sound very good.

[JG52Uther]

That is how ms-kleaneasy (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8071032709/m/3891052709) understands it.



I see it the way I posted. You use all 5, and then after 5 months you have 5 more. Hopefully I am right, because one install only every months doesn't sound very good.

I would prefer your way.Imagine installing CoD to a hard drive that then fails,and having to wait a month before you can install it again...

[fireflyerz]

No. no . no , its not poll tax , its community charge , there not the same ....I promise :rolleyes:

T}{OR , check in on that thread at UBI and see if my Question got answered , this kinda crap gets my goat ......I buy disk , I put in Pc , I play , I goto airfield , I put disk in , I no INWEB connextion , I no play , why not - I buy disc , I buy expesive PC to play disc on , now I must buy Google as well:rolleyes:

[T}{OR]

lol can your post be more confusing? :)

Anyway, I don't see what is the big deal? You activate once after you install the game and that is all, go offline and enjoy the game - next time you don't need to be online to play/start the game. The problem here (we don't have the exact answer) is how many activations you have after the initial 5. Do the new activations accumulate every month until they reach 5 in total or do we just have one per month afterwards. Hope we get an answer soon.

[fireflyerz]

Well T}{OR I remember being at school , seeing a BBC GreenScreen for the first time and thinking....."PAH , this will NEVER catch on....yes im from that generation , how wrong was I , so all this is just more pointless tedium I have to deal with .

[mcmatt]

Happy!

[The Kraken]

lol can your post be more confusing? :)

Anyway, I don't see what is the big deal? You activate once after you install the game and that is all, go offline and enjoy the game - next time you don't need to be online to play/start the game. The problem here (we don't have the exact answer) is how many activations you have after the initial 5. Do the new activations accumulate every month until they reach 5 in total or do we just have one per month afterwards. Hope we get an answer soon.

Well we also don't know if "activations" and "installations" are the same; I assume they are but there are DRM schemes which make a difference between both. No surprise here that Ubi isn't able to clarify this. Maybe we're lucky and the 1C version will be available somehow outside of Russia and use a less restrictive system (Steam?).

[whatnot]

"IL2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover requires a onetime online activation, using the Tages system you will receive 5 activations and a new install every month."

What's the big deal with this?

1) Install
2) Activate
3) Play and enjoy online or offline

And if you want you can repeat that four more times and if that's not enough you do it once a month after that.

In which real life scenario those limitations would get you in trouble? I assume re-install & activation on the same pc does not increment the counter.

[JG52Uther]

Will the Russian version even have DRM?

[mazex]

Come on?

A system with 5 activations for the complete morons here that reinstalls their computer every week or can't decide if they want it installed on their usual rig or the media center and change their mind every week? And then you get a new activation each month if you messed up bad that first month and reinstall again month 2. You botch that install AGAIN month three and get another one???

Battlefront uses a similar system for the Combat Mission series, and I have never used more than one activation... During the "once every two years reinstall" of my OS I deactivate my licence and then activate it again on the new install. If you have to use 5 activations + one more every month you need serious help.

[SEE]

5 + 1 a month? Could it be that the publishers are simply allowing for the possibilty of some people being unfortunate enough to experience a corrupt file/updates/ DLC, etc, during a download that could possibly affect the main install?

[addman]

When Oleg mentioned that 4GB+ is needed for a smooth gaming experience my wallet started crying LOL! I have an Athlon IIx3@2,7, Radeon HD4670 512 and 4 gigs of RAM. Being poor as I am at the moment a new graphics card would've been a hefty investment for me and now maybe even more RAM (even though RAM is cheap now). Also I need a more powerful PSU if I'll upgrade the graphics card. When I built this computer I had low budget, low energy consumption on my priority list, most games I play Far Cry 2, L4D 2, Company of Heroes, SH 3/4, AvP all run at medium to high settings. I really hope CoD will be somewhat playable on medium settings (without AA), I have a feeling that I might have to scale it back even more though :( Hope Oleg and team manages to make the game playable for us on the lower mid-range scale, guess I'll just have to avoid flying over London and other big cities :)

[robtek]

This game, and it's engine, are developed for the future.
Afaik OM has a history with that, remember IL2-Sturmovik in 2001 and it's needs concerning computer power?
I think there are so many nuggets hidden in the code that high-end pc's in 5 years are still getting shown their limits.
So, on a regular med to lower high-end pc today you will to have balance playability with eye-candy.
I really dont think that even the reduced eye-candy will disappoint anybody except maybe Tree_UK :-D.

[David198502]

When Oleg mentioned that 4GB+ is needed for a smooth gaming experience my wallet started crying LOL! I have an Athlon IIx3@2,7, Radeon HD4670 512 and 4 gigs of RAM. Being poor as I am at the moment a new graphics card would've been a hefty investment for me and now maybe even more RAM (even though RAM is cheap now). Also I need a more powerful PSU if I'll upgrade the graphics card. When I built this computer I had low budget, low energy consumption on my priority list, most games I play Far Cry 2, L4D 2, Company of Heroes, SH 3/4, AvP all run at medium to high settings. I really hope CoD will be somewhat playable on medium settings (without AA), I have a feeling that I might have to scale it back even more though :( Hope Oleg and team manages to make the game playable for us on the lower mid-range scale, guess I'll just have to avoid flying over London and other big cities :)

im concerned about the same thing!i have a core i5-650,3,2GHz,Dual Core prozessor,4GB of DDR3-RAM and a SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5570 with 1024MB.i think that i wont be able to fly over populated areas without a freezing screen even on medium or low settings.and my budget to improve my hardware is pretty limited at the time.lets hope oleg and team will do some more magic moves to optimise the game for us until its finished.

[Baron]

When Oleg mentioned that 4GB+ is needed for a smooth gaming experience my wallet started crying LOL! I have an Athlon IIx3@2,7, Radeon HD4670 512 and 4 gigs of RAM. Being poor as I am at the moment a new graphics card would've been a hefty investment for me and now maybe even more RAM (even though RAM is cheap now). Also I need a more powerful PSU if I'll upgrade the graphics card. When I built this computer I had low budget, low energy consumption on my priority list, most games I play Far Cry 2, L4D 2, Company of Heroes, SH 3/4, AvP all run at medium to high settings. I really hope CoD will be somewhat playable on medium settings (without AA), I have a feeling that I might have to scale it back even more though :( Hope Oleg and team manages to make the game playable for us on the lower mid-range scale, guess I'll just have to avoid flying over London and other big cities :)


"CoD usually sits at around 1.8 Gigs in the memory. I don't think I've ever seen it go anywhere near 3 gigs." ;)

[brando]

I wonder if my Acronis True Image software would enable me to store a copy of the activated game?

[SEE]

I have 32bit XP with 4Gb (AFAIK not all of this can be accessed by the OS for applications) but the spec does support XP OS even with its RAM limit. I will wait and see how it all pans out regards performance on my rig - I'm not going to worry about it thats for sure. Once it's released there will be plenty of feedback regards systems/specs and game performance. I will order CoD when all that is actually fedback from enthusiasts.

[JAMF]

"CoD usually sits at around 1.8 Gigs in the memory. I don't think I've ever seen it go anywhere near 3 gigs." ;) Running a 32Bit exe on a 64Bit OS is limited to 2GB, if that 32Bit exe is not programmed with the LAA flag. ;)

[Cloyd]

I run IL2 '46 at 1280x960 perfect. I get ~30fps average on the Black Death track. I have a P4 @2.8 GHz, nVidia 7600 GT AGP 8X 512MB, 2GB of generic memory.

I turn off a lot of stuff:
No Chatter
No AA
No AF
Effects=1
Water=1
Forests=2

Note to you HARDWARE HOs: I have been playing IL2 since the beginning, I have ALWAYS played it on POS hardware, always trying to squeeze out every FPS, or fraction thereof. Don't bother telling me I need to spend $1K on hardware to run $50 software. I KNOW!

I didn't bother with RoF because even people with up-to-date hardware were having problems running it. I will probably buy CloD anyway. I will upgrade eventually, in a year or two.

Care to speculate on what FPS I might get on absolute lowest settings, on an empty map, just me joyriding? Do you think I should just pass, not buy it?

Cloyd

[Royraiden]

I run IL2 '46 at 1280x960 perfect. I get ~30fps average on the Black Death track. I have a P4 @2.8 GHz, nVidia 7600 GT AGP 8X 512MB, 2GB of generic memory.

I turn off a lot of stuff:
No Chatter
No AA
No AF
Effects=1
Water=1
Forests=2

Note to you HARDWARE HOs: I have been playing IL2 since the beginning, I have ALWAYS played it on POS hardware, always trying to squeeze out every FPS, or fraction thereof. Don't bother telling me I need to spend $1K on hardware to run $50 software. I KNOW!

I didn't bother with RoF because even people with up-to-date hardware were having problems running it. I will probably buy CloD anyway. I will upgrade eventually, in a year or two.

Care to speculate on what FPS I might get on absolute lowest settings, on an empty map, just me joyriding? Do you think I should just pass, not buy it?

Cloyd

Tough situation you got there.I say wait till it is released and see how budget pc's run it and then decide.

[Ploughman]

Bummer about your hardware there. I spent years with a Pentium 1.4 and would max out with five or six machine's in the air at any one time. I didn't even know what flak was untill a 2008 upgrade, now mine's a bit old again but at least is in with a decent chance of running CloD. Nevertheless, even if my machine was hopeless and I was a year or more away from replacing it I'd still buy 'Cliffs of Dover' if only to send some money Oleg's way and help to ensure he and his team keep at what they do best.

[Blackdog_kt]

Do the new activations accumulate every month until they reach 5 in total or do we just have one per month afterwards. Hope we get an answer soon.

That's the main issue really.

Scenario 1:
You get 5 initial activations. When they are finished, you get one activation per month and that's it. If you don't use them up they don't add up, it's just one per month.

Scenario 2:
You get 5 initial activations. You use one the first time you install the game so you are left with 4. However, a month later it pops back up to 5. After one more month it doesn't go to 6 but stays at 5, as that is the maximum number allowed.

I prefer the second option, mainly because if IL2 is anything to go by there will be a lot of people having multiple installations at some point in time.
That is unless we can somehow backup the activation key, or the activation has a global effect for all installations on a single PC.

To be honest i don't think i'll need more than 5 in a year under normal circumstances, but then i still dislike being limited in what i can do with something i paid for:
If mods are handled in a different manner now that we're getting built-in modding support then it might not be an issue, but if it gets to be anything similar to IL2 down the line i can easily see squads who fly in tournaments with different modpacks using up three in a single month.

For example, if activations don't have a system-wide effect but each installation needs its own separate activation and using IL2 as an analogy, it's easy to see what happens with a squad who regularly flies 4.09 with modpack A, 4.10 stock and 4.09 with modpack B.

[speculum jockey]

See this?

Tough situation you got there.I say wait till it is released and see how budget pc's run it and then decide.

This is the answer to all hardware questions posed by people considering upgrades or building a new system. I think it should be posted in a sticky that forces all forum members to view it before posting. Those of you who are still asking, read the following.

Cheapos: If you have a dual core system running faster than 2.4GHZ, and card made in the last two years, and 2GB of memory then you're going to be able to play it, but don't expect much in the way of eye candy.

Midrange: If you have a newer i5/7/AMD equivalent, a card made in the last year, and 4GB of memory then you're going to be playing it pretty decently.

More money than brains: If you spend 1K tomorrow on the fastest processer with 16GB of the most overpriced RAM, a SSD Drive, and 4 of the top of the line cards SLI/Crossfired then you're going to be able to play it maxed with a pretty crazy-large resolution.

FAQs

Q: Should I invest in a new system.

A: Depends on a few things. . . Can you afford it? What do you have now? How do you want to run it?

If you can afford to do it, then go for it. It's your money. If you have a year old gaming system and you don't need to play it on a 27" Dell monitor then you're probably going to be fine. If you want high resolution and everything maxed then you're going to have to spend some money. WAIT AND SEE before dropping a few hundred or thousand on a new system.

Q: Should I SLI/Crossfire to get better performance?

A: To most of you, "No". Luthier said the other day that SLI/CF might not give you any performance gains. Generally speaking Multi GPUs/Cards are for people who will be gaming on multiple monitors or at huge resolutions. We don't know if 1xGPU=20fps and 2xGPU=40fps. Maybe there is a huge gain, maybe you just spent $200 for an additional 5fps? WAIT AND SEE before buying another card.

Q: Should I get the latest and greatest Intel/AMD CPU?

A: All depends on your cashflow and your needs. Are you playing this thing jacked will all things enabled and full object counts? Then yes, spend away! From what we've heard it seems that the CPU might be the component that makes the most difference when upgrading. Will having a 2 core system at 4GHZ be better than a 4 core system at 3.5 GHZ? WAIT AND SEE before buying a new CPU.

Q: Should I get another XGB of RAM?

A: Maybe. Luthier said that COD was pushing 1.8GB of RAM Max, but who knows how streamlined it will get in the next month or how much it will expand in the next year. If you have 2GB, you might want to test the waters first. . . then the land. It's dependent on options enabled, so maybe. Given the price of RAM right now I'd probably go with 4GB since I'm sure additional content will be memory hungry. Should you get 8GB of RAM? It's your cash, but I don't see a gaming rig needing more than 4GB of RAM in the next few years.

Q: I'm going to be smart and wait to build a system, but how will I know what will run COD at 60fps at my ideal resolution?

A: Come to these forums and ask people what they are using and what frames they are getting. Maybe Toms Hardware or another site will use COD as their new "Killer App" to test their rigs. Maybe "Can you run it" will add COD and it will tell you what systems run it decently.

Q: What's the big deal in waiting? If I build a killer rig now or 6 months from now I'll still have a killer rig, but I won't be playing that game for 1/2 a year.

A: It all comes down to how much you want to play COD and how much you value your money. If you have the cash, build your rig now. If you want to be a bit more frugal, cool your jets and play the waiting game.

On average, waiting 6 months to build a system typically gets you equal or better frames per second at about 1/2 the price for the gaming components. This depends on the speed Intel/AMD/Nvidia/ATI release their new flagship products and how aggressive they want to be in their pricing. Sometimes you have to wait a year to get it 1/2 off, and sometimes a new product comes along that makes everyone want to get rid of current stock.

Monitors, power supplies, RAM, hard disks, and even mainboards don't really drop in price that often or that fast. Usually it takes some sort of radical new format from Intel or AMD to make all these manufacturers drop prices and start changing their products to keep up.

In summation, it all come down to two simple formulas

Interest in Game + Ability to Wait < Money = Upgrade
Interest in Game + Ability to Wait > Money = Wait for Upgrade

If you're not happy with the way COD plays on your system then you're going to have to upgrade. If you can sweat it out and wait a little while then you're going to same some cash. If you can't wait and have some money burning a hole in your pocket, spend spend spend!

[Blackdog_kt]

I think i'm with jockey on this one with regards to upgrades.

Also, on the subject of the activation system: http://www.tagesprotection.com/Guides/TAGES%20online%20activation%20instructions.pdf

After giving it a quick look, it seems that you DON'T need to use up an extra activation if for some reason you need to format your hard drive.

The activation code can be stored in a file, so as long as your PC configuration hasn't been changed significantly in hardware or software you can just use the previous activation. The activation code is a hash value of your PC's components which, if i understand correctly, is just the result of an algorithm that looks up your PC components, assigns some numbers/IDs to them, does some math and extrapolates a final value in a way that's not possible for a third party to reverse and see what you actually have in your PC (ie, something like one-way encryption and comparison of the encrypted values).

As long as the components are the same, your hash string will be the same. So, if you format and reinstall your OS you can then install CoD again and when prompted to activate select the "i have already received my activation code" option. At that point you will be prompted to copy-paste it from the text file (that's what you should definitely save on some removable media device) and you will be using your original activation instead of using up a second one.

That's all according to how i understood the manual after a quick glance. Also, i don't know what they mean when they say "as long as there's no significant changes to your hardware or software". For software, i guess it means the OS type and nothing more (XP/Vista/7). As for hardware, it doesn't specify in depth. I guess it would definitely look up the type of CPU and/or motherboard as well as the GPU when calculating the hash string, but it would be overkill if it also took RAM and hard drives into account, as that would mean an extra wasted activation if you wanted to do some cheap RAM upgrade or your hard drive died and you installed a new one.

I guess we'll have to wait and see, but it's looking more user friendly than most of the other DRM we've seen lately.

[kendo65]

Speculum Jockey > Nice post there. A lot of sensible advice.

You got my vote for making it a sticky :)



Thanks Blackdog - I'm thinking the drm is probably going to be ok. Seems to strike a good and fair balance between protecting the rights of the devs and flexibility for the buyer.

[bf-110]

PROCESSOR: Pentium® Dual-Core 2.0GHz or Athlon™ X2 3800+
(Intel Core i5 2.66GHz or AMD Phenom II X4 2.6GHz recommended)


OMFG!I have an i3 and I thought that could handle anything!
Looks like I´m starting to get outdated...

[swiss]

Now you mention it...

i5 2.6 - that would an i5-750?

Doesn't work out with the 2.6 amd pendant(x4@2.6= 925/910) though.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/best-gaming-cpu-core-i5-2500k-amd-e350,review-32103-6.html

I am confused.

[Gromic]

Yeah, i5-750. 2,66GHz at stock speed.

Lots of headroom and can be easily overclocked. This kits running at 3,8 on air. Hopefully CoD shouldn't be to much of a handbrake initially.

[swiss]

still, any AMD X4 around 2.6 is nowhere near the i5.

[Gromic]

Correct. Seeing as the X2 with 2.6GHz is 3 generations behind, it does seem strange that they advertise comparable requirements that way. Looking at Tom's chart it should read...

(Intel Core i5-750 2.67GHz or AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 975 3.6GHz recommended) or...

(Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66GHz or AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 910e 2,6GHz recommended).

I'm starting to think it was a Ubi typo. They probably meant 3.6GHz instead of 2.6GHz - which would be the first option.

[Waffenator]

How many cores will the game support?

[swiss]

I'm starting to think it was a Ubi typo. They probably meant 3.6GHz instead of 2.6GHz - which would be the first option.

I guess I need a new cooler, heard the 955 can OC to 4... ;)

Or maybe just an new hexa.

[Oldschool61]

I guess I need a new cooler, heard the 955 can OC to 4... ;)

Or maybe just an new hexa.

You wont need to overclock any high end processors. Just get an X6 and leave it be.

[Triggaaar]

After giving it a quick look, it seems that you DON'T need to use up an extra activation if for some reason you need to format your hard drive.

The activation code can be stored in a file, so as long as your PC configuration hasn't been changed significantly in hardware or software you can just use the previous activation. The activation code is a hash value of your PC's components which, if i understand correctly, is just the result of an algorithm that looks up your PC componentsSo if this activation code is stored, is it checked each time you start the game? ie, you don't go online each time you load the game, but your game checks that you have an activation code and that it matches your PC? I assume not, that would mean your game would stop working any time you made a change to your hardware. So what does it do?

[mazex]

See this?



This is the answer to all hardware questions posed by people considering upgrades or building a new system. I think it should be posted in a sticky that forces all forum members to view it before posting. Those of you who are still asking, read the following.

Cheapos: If you have a dual core system running faster than 2.4GHZ, and card made in the last two years, and 2GB of memory then you're going to be able to play it, but don't expect much in the way of eye candy.

Midrange: If you have a newer i5/7/AMD equivalent, a card made in the last year, and 4GB of memory then you're going to be playing it pretty decently.

More money than brains: If you spend 1K tomorrow on the fastest processer with 16GB of the most overpriced RAM, a SSD Drive, and 4 of the top of the line cards SLI/Crossfired then you're going to be able to play it maxed with a pretty crazy-large resolution.

FAQs

Q: Should I invest in a new system.

A: Depends on a few things. . . Can you afford it? What do you have now? How do you want to run it?

If you can afford to do it, then go for it. It's your money. If you have a year old gaming system and you don't need to play it on a 27" Dell monitor then you're probably going to be fine. If you want high resolution and everything maxed then you're going to have to spend some money. WAIT AND SEE before dropping a few hundred or thousand on a new system.

Q: Should I SLI/Crossfire to get better performance?

A: To most of you, "No". Luthier said the other day that SLI/CF might not give you any performance gains. Generally speaking Multi GPUs/Cards are for people who will be gaming on multiple monitors or at huge resolutions. We don't know if 1xGPU=20fps and 2xGPU=40fps. Maybe there is a huge gain, maybe you just spent $200 for an additional 5fps? WAIT AND SEE before buying another card.

Q: Should I get the latest and greatest Intel/AMD CPU?

A: All depends on your cashflow and your needs. Are you playing this thing jacked will all things enabled and full object counts? Then yes, spend away! From what we've heard it seems that the CPU might be the component that makes the most difference when upgrading. Will having a 2 core system at 4GHZ be better than a 4 core system at 3.5 GHZ? WAIT AND SEE before buying a new CPU.

Q: Should I get another XGB of RAM?

A: Maybe. Luthier said that COD was pushing 1.8GB of RAM Max, but who knows how streamlined it will get in the next month or how much it will expand in the next year. If you have 2GB, you might want to test the waters first. . . then the land. It's dependent on options enabled, so maybe. Given the price of RAM right now I'd probably go with 4GB since I'm sure additional content will be memory hungry. Should you get 8GB of RAM? It's your cash, but I don't see a gaming rig needing more than 4GB of RAM in the next few years.

Q: I'm going to be smart and wait to build a system, but how will I know what will run COD at 60fps at my ideal resolution?

A: Come to these forums and ask people what they are using and what frames they are getting. Maybe Toms Hardware or another site will use COD as their new "Killer App" to test their rigs. Maybe "Can you run it" will add COD and it will tell you what systems run it decently.

Q: What's the big deal in waiting? If I build a killer rig now or 6 months from now I'll still have a killer rig, but I won't be playing that game for 1/2 a year.

A: It all comes down to how much you want to play COD and how much you value your money. If you have the cash, build your rig now. If you want to be a bit more frugal, cool your jets and play the waiting game.

On average, waiting 6 months to build a system typically gets you equal or better frames per second at about 1/2 the price for the gaming components. This depends on the speed Intel/AMD/Nvidia/ATI release their new flagship products and how aggressive they want to be in their pricing. Sometimes you have to wait a year to get it 1/2 off, and sometimes a new product comes along that makes everyone want to get rid of current stock.

Monitors, power supplies, RAM, hard disks, and even mainboards don't really drop in price that often or that fast. Usually it takes some sort of radical new format from Intel or AMD to make all these manufacturers drop prices and start changing their products to keep up.

In summation, it all come down to two simple formulas

Interest in Game + Ability to Wait < Money = Upgrade
Interest in Game + Ability to Wait > Money = Wait for Upgrade

If you're not happy with the way COD plays on your system then you're going to have to upgrade. If you can sweat it out and wait a little while then you're going to same some cash. If you can't wait and have some money burning a hole in your pocket, spend spend spend!

Well written!

[Triggaaar]

Well written!To each their own I guess.

[kendo65]

How many cores will the game support?

Just the HARD-CORE ...:)

Sorry...smart money is that a quad core will be a worthwhile investment - judging by the recommended specs.

Doubt if more than that will be worthwhile.

[Blackdog_kt]

So if this activation code is stored, is it checked each time you start the game? ie, you don't go online each time you load the game, but your game checks that you have an activation code and that it matches your PC? I assume not, that would mean your game would stop working any time you made a change to your hardware. So what does it do?

I think it's quite close to what you say.

Granted, i only gave the .pdf document a brief look, but they did mention that the activation code is a variable dependent on your PC specs.

How restrictive is that? Well, it depends on your upgrade habits and what kind of specs it tracks.

For example, i don't expect the majority of people (bar the hardware enthusiasts) to do more than one major upgrade per year, so if it only checks the OS type, CPU, GPU and motherboard models then i would probably not have have to reactivate for months or even a year.

If however it checks other components that a lot of people change on a more frequent basis, either as a cheap mini-upgrade or due to hardware failures, it could prove a bit problematic. For example, it would be over the top to include the type of RAM sticks, hard drives or optical drives into the calculation of the hash file, since connecting an external drive would suddenly register as a different hardware configuration with a different hash value: the DRM might think it's installed on a different PC and lock you out until you reactivate.

I think that's the main reason they look up the hardware, instead of limiting your amount of installations flat out, they are trying to limit the amount of different PCs you can install on.

I still consider DRM of most kinds a failed approach because they are restrictive to the legitimate user while at the same time being ineffective in combating piracy, so i would prefer the ordinary copy protection on the disk that takes about an equal amount of time to get bypassed but doesn't deprive me the use of something i paid for. That being said, compared to other DRM implementations this tages system looks like a marked improvement.

For me, the main advantages over other kinds of DMR are:
a) It works offline once you activate.

b) You can activate on a non-connected PC without having to carry the whole case with you.
The pdf manual states that you can generate the initial hash file on your gaming PC, copy that file to a thumbdrive and take it to a place with internet access to complete the activation from there.
If i understood correctly the process goes like this:
start installer and input your product key/DVD-key->after the installation completes the DRM checks your PC specs and outputs a hash file->hash file gets uploaded to tages-> tages provides you with the activation code.
So, it's possible to create the hash file on your gaming PC (that's the one you want it to match since here is where you'll be running the sim) but upload it to tages from another location to receive the activation code.

In the automatic activation mode it does this all on its own. If for whatever reason you have problems or lack internet access, you go to manual mode and it provides you with the ability to save a copy of the hash file so that you can manually upload it from another location and receive the unlock code. Then you save the code, go back to your own PC and copy paste it into the activation window to complete the process.

c) As long as your PC specs are unchanged, you can format and reinstall everything on your PC without wasting an extra activation. As long as the specs are the same, the hash value will be the same so you just save that code in a text file on some removable media and just copy-paste it into the activation window whenever you need to reinstall CoD.

d) If you run out of activations you can email your product key to customer support and they'll give you 5 more, effectively resetting your available activation count to the state of a brand new purchased copy.

I still hate having to jump through fiery hoops to play something i paid for, but compared to constant online requirements or limited activations and deactivations that are based on the total amount of installs even on the same PC instead of on the amount of different PCs it's installed on , it's a definite improvement.

[F19_lacrits]

How many cores will the game support?

Valid question which I also would like to know the answer for.. It's crucial to know if you are in to buying new hardware for the game as there are 6 core desktop CPU's on the market nowadays (Opteron/Phenom and i7/Xeon). If the game only supports up to 4 cores (threads) then you don't have to look at 6 or 8 core CPU, not even the Sandy Bridge i7 2600 with Hyperthreading.. Might as well stick with Phenom X4 or i5 2500K and overclock them to hell.

[Rall]

Will a pc with these specs handle this game?

Processor: AMD Athlon ll X2 255 Dual Core
Hard Drive Size: 1TB
Processor - Clock Speed: 3.1GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 9200
Ram: 4GB
Windows 7, 64-bit

Thanks : )

[Hecke]

Will a pc with these specs handle this game?

Processor: AMD Athlon ll X2 255 Dual Core
Hard Drive Size: 1TB
Processor - Clock Speed: 3.1GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 9200
Ram: 4GB
Windows 7, 64-bit

Thanks : )


Not more than on low settings, I think.

[addman]

Will a pc with these specs handle this game?

Processor: AMD Athlon ll X2 255 Dual Core
Hard Drive Size: 1TB
Processor - Clock Speed: 3.1GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 9200
Ram: 4GB
Windows 7, 64-bit

Thanks : )

That geforce 9200 is integrated right? I'd say you need a dedicated graphics card the most, if you're on a budget you could go for a ATi Radeon HD 5770 or maybe a Geforce GTS 450. Second thing I'd consider would be a better CPU. You'll definitely need a better graphics card, first priority.

[He111]

Any update on eyefinity? i want to run 6 monitors to fly my He111 - left view, front view, right view, down view, top view, looking back down the cabin view??? Is what I want possible?

i can imagine I'll need LED monitors to stop cooking myself and draining the grid! :-P

He111.

[JAMF]

Any update on eyefinity? i want to run 6 monitors to fly my He111 - left view, front view, right view, down view, top view, looking back down the cabin view??? Is what I want possible?Sounds like something that the guys playing FS9/FSX can do, but Eyefinity gives the game the impression there is one (1) high resolution display (like 5760x2160).

I do not think we will see an option to select 6 separate windows that display 6 selectable view-directions.

[kikque]

I know it's speculative, but will this system cope?

CPU: i7 920

mobo: P6T deluxe

RAM: 6GB

HD: 1TB

GPU: Radeon 4870 X2

Vista 64 bit

Many thanks for any help :) I haven't overclocked yet btw.

[Biggs]

I know it's speculative, but will this system cope?

CPU: i7 920

mobo: P6T deluxe

RAM: 6GB

HD: 1TB

GPU: Radeon 4870 X2

Vista 64 bit

Many thanks for any help :) I haven't overclocked yet btw.


judging by the latest vids posted and a look at the min requirements list... you should be fine... dare I say more than fine.

[Richie]

I haven't read threw all of these posts so if this info has been up already I'm sorry for the boo boo for putting it up again but the starting point would seem to be an i5 with 4 gigs of ram with a good mid range Dx11 card as this guy had for the two videos.


Core i5-650, 4 gigs of Ram AMD Radeon 6870



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K94NQH4W31c&feature=player_embedded

[kirq]

I have:

i7 890 @3,5 GHz
4GB Ram
GTX460

and I'm hoping to run it on med/high 1680x1050. Will see :)

[Pyrres]

I know it's speculative, but will this system cope?

CPU: i7 920

mobo: P6T deluxe

RAM: 6GB

HD: 1TB

GPU: Radeon 4870 X2

Vista 64 bit

Many thanks for any help :) I haven't overclocked yet btw.

Oh you should be more than fine. The weakest link in your system is that it is not oc:d. That old 4870x2 can still give headaches to many new cards. A friend of mine has the exact setup as you do but has Windows 7 and two 4870x2 and all OC:d to the max. He can run Metro 2033 on max settings over 120fps. I really suggest that you try and see what you can do with OC:ing. My own 920 goes to 3.99ghz on stock voltages and on aircooling.

My computer has P6T MB, 2xAti 5770 GPU:s with slight oc:s, I7 920@4.1ghz (aircooled), and 12gb of DDR3. My only consern is how well does COD use those two GPU:s that are on the weak side. Normally when game does use CF properly I can run most of the games at max graphics but some just cant use CF properly and I have to give up my eyecandy :(.

[Bobby109]

"OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows® 7 / Vista SP2 / Windows XP SP3"

What happens if you have Vista SP1 ??

It took forever to get Vista to work properly and once it did i never wanted to change anything as that can open a whole new can of worms lol. (Same reason i'm not getting Win 7, i'll be troubleshooting for a month :P)

Sorry if this has been answered, did not have time to look thru 36 pages.

[furbs]

Get WIN 7 64bit...you will be sorted in about 20 mins...outstanding OS :)

[Blackdog_kt]

I can second that. After having to work on Vista for a few months during my army time as a conscript, i can say it was a deeply traumatic experience, i hated them :grin:

Excuse me while i ramble on for a while, some of you might enjoy the story...
At some point i was attached to a junior officer who took care of the wing's informatics, networks and so on (which naturally didn't run on windows :-P ). My job was to do maintenance work when people called us about PC problems, plus we had to compile a weekly briefing for the unit's commanding officer (a brigadier with a few thousand hours in mirage 2000s). This we usually did on powerpoint with a PC that ran Vista.

Now, the unit i served in didn't operate aircraft, but it still had an important job and lots of things to keep track of. The wing in question is responsible for half the air-defence network of the country and operates patriot missile systems, plus some of its squadrons are situated in different parts of the country.
Well, every week we had to compile an inventory of everything for the briefing, ranging from the amount of personnel and patriot spare parts right down to food rations, point defence flak gun status (operational/under maintenance/unserviceable and in such a case which part failed) and even the amount of individual ammunition rounds for each weapon, right down to our rifles and pistols. After all this there was the secret operational reports (which i naturally lacked clearance to work on) and descriptions of whatever training activities we were involved in. All of this information was broken up in parts where each squadron had its relevant officers supply the data once per week.

Well, there's nothing worse than having a bunch of officers delaying submission of the required data for the briefing until the last 5 minutes, having them suddenly crowd your tiny office all at once for fear of the CO chewing them off if they miss the deadline and Vista throwing tantrums and errors all the while :grin:


This experience made me so determined not to ever install Vista, that when i got my current PC i only got 3GB of RAM because the only 64 bit OSes available were XP 64 (limited drivers) and Vista 64 (see story above.)

When win7 became available i remained hesitant for while, until the stream of positive reviews started. I got a license for free through a friend of mine (he was entitled to it through a university program for post-graduate informatics students but he didn't need it as he's using Linux) and installed it on a secondary hard drive.

A month ago my windows XP installation crashed badly due to file system errors, so i finally made the move to win7 x64.

Compared to XP it's like comparing a jet or turboprop to a piston engine: sometimes win7 feels like it needs some "spool up" time where XP would respond immediately, but overall performance when actually running a demanding piece of software is better.

[Novotny]

Well, that's hardly surprising since you limited the ram to 3gig. I notice upon visiting my parents that their i5 with 3gigs cranks the hdd whilst my 8400(@3.8ghz) with 4gigs just opens things quite quickly in comparison (both win7 64bit).

I had the same attitude to XP when it came out. It took a complete OS failure at a LAN event to make me install XP, and I was very unhappy about it, whilst the friendly chaps helping me politely waited for me to stop being a dick.

Once I had mouse accel sorted, I thought XP was actually very good.

I shifted to Win 7 quite early on and completely refused to boot to XP ever again.

And in the spirit of completeness: Vista was xxxx .

Edit:: Blackdog, just curious: why do you always make such bloody long posts? Not in any way complaining, just asking :)

[swiss]

Edit:: Blackdog, just curious: why do you always make such bloody long posts? Not in any way complaining, just asking :)

He found the speech recognition feature of Windows7, lol. ;)

[Blackdog_kt]

I just type fast enough to be able to put thoughts to "virtual paper" in a "thinking out loud/talking over a beer in the bar" kind of fashion, it's not really planned :grin:

In the more heated debates it's a byproduct of including as many details as possible so that i can make a clear point and avoid being misunderstood or having an exchange of one-liners with other posters. You could say i just like to preempt and cover as many angles as possible, instead of having to wait for someone to post a single sentence and reply to them in a similar manner. It's a longer posts/more info per post for a smaller post count type of thing ;)

Back on the topic of RAM, that will probably be the one mini-upgrade i'm going to go for after i've done some test flights with CoD. I have three sticks of 1GB each in triple channel (i don't remember timings and clock speeds so i'll have to look it up, but i'm probably going to opt for mid-range settings).

I'm thinking of pushing the total up to 6GB by getting an extra 3x1GB in triple channel, as the motherboard has 3 more slots available in a separate "bank".
My question is, do the new sticks have to share clock speeds and timings with my existing ones, can i "underclock" the faster set to match the slower one if they need to match, or do i just plug them in as long as they are in separate banks?

Edit: Looking at the local e-shop retailers there's DDR3 kits from as low as 35 all the way to 78 Euros, a middle of the road 1333Mhz Corsair kit is at 52 and has a lifetime warranty! I head RAM was getting cheap but i didn't know it was that cheap, i may jump the gun and get it earlier :cool:

[kendo65]

Blackdog, afaik, to avoid 'issues' and possible complications, it is important to get exactly the same spec of ram that you are currently using - for maximum dependability get the exact same model from the same manufacturer if that is possible.

Others may have more info on this, but that is the general advice I came across when doubling my ram to 4GB.

[F19_lacrits]

Back on the topic of RAM, that will probably be the one mini-upgrade i'm going to go for after i've done some test flights with CoD. I have three sticks of 1GB each in triple channel (i don't remember timings and clock speeds so i'll have to look it up, but i'm probably going to opt for mid-range settings).

I'm thinking of pushing the total up to 6GB by getting an extra 3x1GB in triple channel, as the motherboard has 3 more slots available in a separate "bank".
My question is, do the new sticks have to share clock speeds and timings with my existing ones, can i "underclock" the faster set to match the slower one if they need to match, or do i just plug them in as long as they are in separate banks?

In case of triple and dual channel RAM.. This has got to do with how the chipset addresses RAM and it's bus-width. Dual channel is 2*64bit and Triple 3*64bit bus-width.
For the chipset to be able to address memory like this they have to be identical in terms of not only speed but also model and make etc. The "system" sees the two or three RAM sticks as one bank of RAM memory.
On a X58 you have two sets of triple channel memory slots. That's why the banks have two sets of color coding.
You don't need to match your new set of RAM sticks with your existing ones in terms of make and model.. The new set should be matched though so that you can run them in triple channel as well. The bus can not run individual frequency to the different banks, so all memory must run on the same speed and with the same timings. So your "worst" RAM stick will set the mark for all other..

[Razorhead]

edit; i'lll be smart and wait for the final release. First see how the game is running on a E6750, 4GB DDR2 & 4870 1GB.

[Blackdog_kt]

In case of triple and dual channel RAM.. This has got to do with how the chipset addresses RAM and it's bus-width. Dual channel is 2*64bit and Triple 3*64bit bus-width.
For the chipset to be able to address memory like this they have to be identical in terms of not only speed but also model and make etc. The "system" sees the two or three RAM sticks as one bank of RAM memory.
On a X58 you have two sets of triple channel memory slots. That's why the banks have two sets of color coding.
You don't need to match your new set of RAM sticks with your existing ones in terms of make and model.. The new set should be matched though so that you can run them in triple channel as well. The bus can not run individual frequency to the different banks, so all memory must run on the same speed and with the same timings. So your "worst" RAM stick will set the mark for all other..

So if i'm getting this correctly, i can buy 3 identical sticks that match each other but don't need to match the previous 3. Then i will have to downgrade my faster set to the speed and timings of the slower one.

Thanks for the input ;)

[kendo65]

You'll get the 3 matched sticks when you buy a set of triple-channel ram.

As F19_lacrits says they can be of different spec to your current ones, but if so you will have to set everything to the speed (and settings ) of the slowest.

I still suggest, though, that for maximum ease and compatibility you just order a second set of the triple-channel ram you are already using.

[jldena]

Im sure about the procesor, not that sure about de graphic card. Will it be enough? Thank you.

Intel® CoreTM i7-2620M 2,70GHz
Windows® 7 Professional
500 GB Serial ATA (7200 rpm)
8 GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM
LCD 33,7 cm, 1366x768 + webcam
AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6630M 1GB

[klem]

That's a hard question to answer.
Looking at this:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html

I'd say it sits a little above a 5650 which you can see also here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-graphics-card-geforce-gtx-590-radeon-hd-6990,2879-7.html

Its not clear how CoD will perform on various hardware setups but if I had to guess I'd say ok at lower to medium settings.

OTOH you could turn it around and ask how it performs in IL-2. Perhaps you can expect at least that level of Graphics in CoD but will that mean 'low' by CoD standards and will that matter to you?

[jldena]

Thank you klem,

Do you think the procesor will help? that intel i7 is one of the new intel procesors called second generation also called "sandy bridge".

[easyhomewin]

Seen as we are aren't getting a demo I thought I'd try games with similar minimal requirements; (8800 / core duo 2)..... nearest match I could find was the Crysis 2 mp demo.

It seemed to be just about playable on lowest res 800x600 and gamer mode, still think i'll hold out for a hard copy just incase.. I remain hopeful my little dell xps 13 with a 210m is upto the task.;)

[camel24hrs]

Seen as we are aren't getting a demo I thought I'd try games with similar minimal requirements; (8800 / core duo 2)..... nearest match I could find was the Crysis 2 mp demo.

It seemed to be just about playable on lowest res 800x600 and gamer mode, still think i'll hold out for a hard copy just incase.. I remain hopeful my little dell xps 13 with a 210m is upto the task.;)

The only sim I have that might be close to what COD will be is ROF. The extensive flight models and heavy duty graphics and maps seem to me like they may be a close fit.

I am running a Palit Geforce 560Ti 2gig. When you do the settings in ROF it shows you what percentage of video ram you are using and when you get to 90% it flags a warning. Running at 1920x1080 with all the bells and whisltes turned up all the way I am using 53% of my available video ram. After I fly I close out the sim and pop up MSI Afterburner and it shows that I was using about 1.3 gig worth.

No one has actually laid hands on COD yet, so we dont know what is all going to be required for all the bells and whistles. But on ROF if you want to turn everything up you better have more than 1gig of video memory. 1.5 at a minimum. Bty, I get upper 50s to mid 60s fps in flight and upper 40s to low 50s in dogfights over a detailed landscape at low altitude. It is not jerky at all and would not know the frame rate even lowered if I was not running fraps. Running the card oc at 920 core and 2400 (4800) memory at stock voltage

The sad fact is we really have no clue as to what COD will take to run it with everything wide open till we get our hands on it. Seems kind of unfair.

[klem]

Thank you klem,

Do you think the procesor will help? that intel i7 is one of the new intel procesors called second generation also called "sandy bridge".

That's not so easy either for the same reasons but I would think it will be better placed in CPU terms than your card will be in GPU terms. I'm guessing medium settings.

But that's only my guess. I would certainly say that with a PC (Laptop?) of that spec I wouldn't go rushing out to get something else until you have seen what it can deliver.
I have a laptop with the i7-720QM 1.6GHz and ATI/AMD 5250 GPU and it runs Microsoft FSX beautifully and if you look here
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Quad+Q9000+%40+2.00 GHz
You'll see that gets a benchmark score of 3266 whilst yours gets 3563. I know benchmarks don't always tell you how a game will run but it's a reasonable guide for CPU comparisons.

Anyway, in two and a half weeks time we'll know :)

[drillerman45]

Good morning everyone,
I would like to pre-order IL2-CoD but before doing so would ask for some clarification on graphics cards. I have the above card in my ACER notebook and was wondering if it would be ok to run IL2-CoD. I don't have any problems running IL2-BOP. While I realise it is not in the "Supported" list, I assume it doesn't mean it won't necessarily be ok.
Thank you in advance of some clarification.

[Kikuchiyo]

Good morning everyone,
I would like to pre-order IL2-CoD but before doing so would ask for some clarification on graphics cards. I have the above card in my ACER notebook and was wondering if it would be ok to run IL2-CoD. I don't have any problems running IL2-BOP. While I realise it is not in the "Supported" list, I assume it doesn't mean it won't necessarily be ok.
Thank you in advance of some clarification.

What you should be most concerned with is your CPU and Memory. The game involves a lot of heavy number crunching, and like many others would say the video card is tertiary to the calculating power of your processor.

[drillerman45]

Thanks for the reply, My CPU is a dual core 2.0ghz and I have 4 gig of memory. These both meet requirements but I was just concerned that my video card doesn't.

[nearmiss]

Good morning everyone,
I would like to pre-order IL2-CoD but before doing so would ask for some clarification on graphics cards. I have the above card in my ACER notebook and was wondering if it would be ok to run IL2-CoD. I don't have any problems running IL2-BOP. While I realise it is not in the "Supported" list, I assume it doesn't mean it won't necessarily be ok.
Thank you in advance of some clarification.


There is NO WAY I would buy any hardware at this time. Wait until release is out, and watch the boards for a couple weeks information will flow like a river and you'll make better hardware choices.

[klem]

There is NO WAY I would buy any hardware at this time. Wait until release is out, and watch the boards for a couple weeks information will flow like a river and you'll make better hardware choices.

Absolutely. It's so close to release now.

FYI I would guess your card sits around 17th on the list at this link. The list may help you make sense of the card types people report back on.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-radeon-hd-6870-radeon-hd-6850,2782-7.html

[SEE]

I came across a review for CoD and along side the system specs was neat little box in which you typed in your current PC specs and it gave a rating out of 10 for performance......mine came out at 4...........:(

So I priced up an expensive but decent spec upgrade, typed it in and it came out at 7----hell! Think I will wait untill prices have fallen and stick with 4.101 as I am not sure I could cope with an underperforming rig - it would drive me nuts!

[nearmiss]

Absolutely. It's so close to release now.

FYI I would guess your card sits around 17th on the list at this link. The list may help you make sense of the card types people report back on.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-radeon-hd-6870-radeon-hd-6850,2782-7.html

My video card is an 8800 gts 512MB, which doesn't look to bad on the chart.

Still, I'm not about to buy anything until the forums have been screaming from users getting there systems upgraded and sharing with everyone.

An amazing amount of information will flow when the COD is released.

Just be patient!

[blade122222]

Just wondering if a 9600gs would work with this game? Just work, not play at maximum or anything...

[No601_Merlin]

Just wondering if a 9600gs would work with this game? Just work, not play at maximum or anything...

8800GT minimum so just about

[blade122222]

Is it true that much memory (+4Gb) is more important than a good graphics card?

[Oldschool61]

Is it true that much memory (+4Gb) is more important than a good graphics card?

NO

[jldena]

Thanks klem, as you say, Ill have to wait and see what happens.

[bugmenot]

Hey guys, I currently have this pretty old PC :

C2D E6750 2,66Ghz
2Gb RAM DDR2 PC6400
8800GTX 768Mb
The rest is of the same level.

I can't afford a new PC right now so, would it be worth it to buy CoD nevertheless?

Even RoF runs pretty well...

Thanks.

[JG52Uther]

Hey guys, I currently have this pretty old PC :

C2D E6750 2,66Ghz
2Gb RAM DDR2 PC6400
8800GTX 768Mb
The rest is of the same level.

I can't afford a new PC right now so, would it be worth it to buy CoD nevertheless?

Even RoF runs pretty well...

Thanks.
I would say yes,you should be ok at lower settings,but another 2GB of ram would help a lot.

[hashi]

Just finished building my new PC for this (and shogun 2)
12GB tripple channel RAM
i7 960
EVGA GTX 580
2x 1TB HDD Raid0
27" LED LCD
TrakIR 5
nothing else matters

Gonna rock!

[blade122222]

I haven´t heard anything about il-2 cod supporting multi-core. But i´m assuming it does....right?

[JAMF]

I haven´t heard anything about il-2 cod supporting multi-core. But i´m assuming it does....right?

PCGH: interpret the previously announced minimum and recommended hardware requirements for it to know, that the engine is optimized for multi-core processors. Can you confirm that? If so, what is the thread-structure? Do you use a thread scheduler?

Oleg Maddox: We use a hybrid multi-threaded system. Separate threads come in to play in sound or asynchronous loading of resources in to play. We also use, for example, to load or calculate geometry TPL (Task Parallel Library) for the efficient use of available cores apply. So this answer tells us the load will be spread over multiple cores, but for performance benefits of how many cores, we'll have to wait for actual numbers. There is no way to tell yet if a 3 or 4 core will give best results, or 6 or 8 cores.

[klem]

Hey guys, I currently have this pretty old PC :

C2D E6750 2,66Ghz
2Gb RAM DDR2 PC6400
8800GTX 768Mb
The rest is of the same level.

I can't afford a new PC right now so, would it be worth it to buy CoD nevertheless?

Even RoF runs pretty well...

Thanks.

You'll soon know from others that do buy it and report back. Should be able to judge from that so you could wait if you like.

[Ploughman]

Best thing to do would be to get some more RAM.

[blade122222]

Will i be able to run cod with decent fps with these settings? (presumably)

Q6600 quad 2.4Ghz
4Gb ram
nvidia 9600gs

[speculum jockey]

Will i be able to run cod with decent fps with these settings? (presumably)

Q6600 quad 2.4Ghz
4Gb ram
nvidia 9600gs

Are you going to be playing at 800x600 with everything set to low or 50,000x30,000 maxed out with 256x FSAA?

I'll tell you March 26th.

[The Sheepherder]

I have a question: Do you think CoD will run decently on an ATI 4650 at 1024x768 resolution with little or no FSAA but with high detail models and textures?

[Avala]

Will i be able to run cod with decent fps with these settings? (presumably)

Q6600 quad 2.4Ghz
4Gb ram
nvidia 9600gs

You will, but not with high settings, probably with lower.

[Biggs]

Will i be able to run cod with decent fps with these settings? (presumably)

Q6600 quad 2.4Ghz
4Gb ram
nvidia 9600gs

thats my rig too more or less... though i OC'd the Q6600 to 3.2ghz, and ive got a Radeon 4850.

Im expecting mid to low-mid settings at 1680x1050 and MAYBE some AA if I can.

[JG52Uther]

thats my rig too more or less... though i OC'd the Q6600 to 3.2ghz, and ive got a Radeon 4850.

Im expecting mid to low-mid settings at 1680x1050 and MAYBE some AA if I can.

Snap,I have a Q6600 @ 3.2 as well, with 4GB of ram.My 4850 is a 1GB model though,and it plays RoF very nicely at fairly high settings,so I am hoping it will cope with CoD.

[waffen-79]

intel core2duo e8400 3.0ghz
4gb ram
GTX 460 1gb
windows 7

will this run it?

forgot to add:

I have a 1600x900 native res LCD, I need that resolution

[Biggs]

Snap,I have a Q6600 @ 3.2 as well, with 4GB of ram.My 4850 is a 1GB model though,and it plays RoF very nicely at fairly high settings,so I am hoping it will cope with CoD.

HA identical!

Im thinking on the pesimistic side of things... there are things like Forest size and ground shading and building detail that i feel like i can live with on "low"

we will have to compair notes when the games out...

EDIT: This is what im planning to run my settings at...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/Biggs222/3-1.jpg

[klem]

I have a question: Do you think CoD will run decently on an ATI 4650 at 1024x768 resolution with little or no FSAA but with high detail models and textures?

Assuming your processor can also deliver the settings you want to use I would guess the card might be ok at that resolution with much of the eye candy turned off. I don't think 'high detail models and textures' and '1024x768' really go together. Don't be offended but I doubt very much if you'll enjoy the high level of detail graphics CoD can provide if you use such low settings. 1024 x 768 is already, visually, a low level setting in IL-2.

I have my old PC with AMD3800+ 2.4GHz processor, 2Gb RAM and 7800GT 256Mb graphics card (similar generation to the 4650) and it runs IL-2 well at 'Excellent' on 1680x1050 and runs it well at 'Perfect' on 1280x1024. I don't expect it to deliver well on high detail settings in CoD.

But that's only my 2p 'think'. Best thing if you are wondering if its worth buying is wait for someone with a similar set up to report back on it.

[Flyby]

I have a CoD-specific quandary (again). The Intel 2500k processor versus the i-7-920? I know the older 920 supports hyper-threading, and that the 2500k does not. The 2500k can be over-clocked quite easily (with air cooling) to levels that would strain a 920-based system (making that system a power-hog in the process, plus more heat).

If CoD is not coded for hyper-threading, then is there any benefit to be gained from using the 1366 platform versus the 1155 platform for Cod? In other words, would CoD be better served to have a multi-core processor that can more easily deliver high CPU frequencies (4.5~4.9ghz?), but no hyper-threading? As far as system Architecture goes, I'm leaning towards one GPU presently, with an eye to a second one some time later. I have not seen much to show any advantage of 2x16 PCI-e lanes versus 2x8 pci-e lanes for video through put when it comes to two GPUs.

I'm sure this has been covered somewhere, but I'm focusing on two specific CPUs and their attendant architectures.
Flyby out

[Feuerfalke]

I would just wait for the first reviews and reports.

BTW: You can overclock an i7 920 to 4 GHz easily. Key factor is not the amount of power, but the speed and quality of the mainboard, RAM and of course the power-supply. I had my i7920 running at 4 GHz for quite a while with a quality 550 W-unit.

Aircooled, of course.

And while we're at it: Don't forget to cool the mainboard when overclocking!

[Flyby]

FF! Thanks for replying. Much appreciated. Sound advice on waiting. It won't be long before virtual airmen are flooding this forum with their system specs and in-game results. I even have a 920 already; had it for a while. It's just that to get the 920 up to 3.6ghz it runs @317 watts (100% load), and 173 watts @ idle, while the 2500K is stated as 4.3ghz @ 187 watts (100% load), and 83 watts @ idle. This processor will do 4.8~5ghz on air. Heat is not so much as issue too (nor is water cooling said to be of much benefit, and overclocking is restricted to the CPU only. No FSB or memory to worry over. That's impressive. Here are a couple of links for the info I've put here; CPU comparatve:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/01/03/intel_sandy_bridge_2600k_2500k_processors_review/1
Not bad, but the issue I'll wait for is to see if there's any benefit to hyper-threading when it comes to CoD (heavy flak, looking down over London, and a sky full of planes,for instance). Won't be long now. Less than TWO WEEKS!! :D
Flyby out

[BigC208]

It looks like the I2500k is going to be like the duocore e6600 in 2006. Even cheaper. Can you imagine a $250 cpu running at 5ghz on air? If CoD is not geared toward more than 4 core's and one gpu one could built a smoking machine for less than $800 if you allready have a case and powersupply. If they later optimze it for SLI you can add a gpu. If it uses all 6 cores you can go AMD and still havea cheap solution.

When Il2 came out it took some expensive hardware to run it properly. There might be some good thinking behind Oleg's release strategy. Pull the masses in on affordable hardware. Once they're hooked they'll upgrade in order to be able to play the next installments. Give them a few new graphics features every installment and everyone stays interested.

[Feuerfalke]

FF! Thanks for replying. Much appreciated. Sound advice on waiting. It won't be long before virtual airmen are flooding this forum with their system specs and in-game results. I even have a 920 already; had it for a while. It's just that to get the 920 up to 3.6ghz it runs @317 watts (100% load), and 173 watts @ idle, while the 2500K is stated as 4.3ghz @ 187 watts (100% load), and 83 watts @ idle. This processor will do 4.8~5ghz on air. Heat is not so much as issue too (nor is water cooling said to be of much benefit, and overclocking is restricted to the CPU only. No FSB or memory to worry over. That's impressive. Here are a couple of links for the info I've put here; CPU comparatve:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/01/03/intel_sandy_bridge_2600k_2500k_processors_review/1
Not bad, but the issue I'll wait for is to see if there's any benefit to hyper-threading when it comes to CoD (heavy flak, looking down over London, and a sky full of planes,for instance). Won't be long now. Less than TWO WEEKS!! :D
Flyby out

Nice, thanks for the link!

For me the problem with the overclocked CPU simply was the rising board-temperature. Voltages became pretty unstable after a while, causing instability, no matter how high or low the actual CPU-temperature was. So I tuned down to a still good 3.6 GHz.

I'm considering an upgrade for SoW as well, but I'll definitely wait and test the simulation before judging which part to upgrade. Considering the thin information on features and usage of multi-threading and DX-features, there's simply no basis for a reasonable update, now.

[Dores]

I was looking at the system requirements, and my card, ATI Radeon 4600 is not on the list of supported cards. Does this mean that I won't be able to play CoD on it at all?

[AKA_Tenn]

I was looking at the system requirements, and my card, ATI Radeon 4600 is not on the list of supported cards. Does this mean that I won't be able to play CoD on it at all?

i think its just to give u an idea of the types of cards that will work, really as long as it's 512mb, and supports dx9.0c it'll work, how many frames per second u get is a totally different question all together, a 4600 is pretty slow,..

[The Sheepherder]

Assuming your processor can also deliver the settings you want to use I would guess the card might be ok at that resolution with much of the eye candy turned off. I don't think 'high detail models and textures' and '1024x768' really go together. Don't be offended but I doubt very much if you'll enjoy the high level of detail graphics CoD can provide if you use such low settings. 1024 x 768 is already, visually, a low level setting in IL-2.

I have my old PC with AMD3800+ 2.4GHz processor, 2Gb RAM and 7800GT 256Mb graphics card (similar generation to the 4650) and it runs IL-2 well at 'Excellent' on 1680x1050 and runs it well at 'Perfect' on 1280x1024. I don't expect it to deliver well on high detail settings in CoD.

But that's only my 2p 'think'. Best thing if you are wondering if its worth buying is wait for someone with a similar set up to report back on it.

Thanks for the feedback. Just thought that if I ran CoD at any resolution higher than 1280 I'll only get a chunk of lag with it. Just wish they'd release a demo for CoD.

[nearmiss]

It has been said before, and many times.

"I suggest you wait until the BOB COD is released"

The BOB COD forums will be buzzing with information about systems, all kinds of configuration issues. You won't believe at the support flowing once it is released.

Everyone will be looking for Nirvana with COD.

It's OK to post here and make some system upgrades for sure, but just remember you may still need help with refinements once it is installed on your system.

Don't panic over what you do or don't have, and be especially careful if you are not very sure about hardware you would like to buy.

[DoolittleRaider]

About to upgrade. If I go 64 bit Windows 7 OS, will both ClOD and IL-2 series both work? My IL2 (and ROF and Black Ops, etc etc) now works with my Vista 32 bit.

[Thee_oddball]

About to upgrade. If I go 64 bit Windows 7 OS, will both ClOD and IL-2 series both work? My IL2 (and ROF and Black Ops, etc etc) now works with my Vista 32 bit.

yes

[palvas]

this is my pc
Win7 64bit
Intel Core i5 760 @ 2.80 ghz
RAM 4096
Geforce GTX 460

What do you think ? I'm not interested in max detail.

[klem]

this is my pc
Win7 64bit
Intel Core i5 760 @ 2.80 ghz
RAM 4096
Geforce GTX 460

What do you think ? I'm not interested in max detail.

My guess is you'll be fine. From all the horror predictions I don't think many of us will run everything maxed out for a few PC generations yet but you're well above the minimum spec, more importantly your CPU is a shade above the recommended, GPU is well up the "Supported GPUs" list and RAM is bang on the recommended.

Of course they don't say what the 'recommended' will deliver in settings and FPS but it must be reasonably good.

Should know in a week :)

[palvas]

Thank you klem,i feel much better right now :) i'll keep the preorder ON and wait for the relase:)

[BigMoab]

Damn! And i have a crappy ATI 4350! Have to upgrade or put up with it lol.

[MugiSNK]

Damn! And i have a crappy ATI 4350! Have to upgrade or put up with it lol.

Haha. I've got a HD5570 and I can run Wings of Prey flawlessly on higher settings, 1280 x 800 resolution. It's a shame I can't get a new system since I got mine just half a year ago. I'm also pretty money limited because I'm underaged. Oh well.

[BigMoab]

Haha. I've got a HD5570 and I can run Wings of Prey flawlessly on higher settings, 1280 x 800 resolution. It's a shame I can't get a new system since I got mine just half a year ago. I'm also pretty money limited because I'm underaged. Oh well.

Yeah i got my new computer not so long ago, 1 year ago now. I wasnt really going to play any games on here but i found my Battle of Britain: Wings of Victory II so i installed it on and then bought FSX which i have no problems what so ever. I have Birds of Prey on the PS3 and love it, shame they cant put Cliffs of Dover onto the consoles! Ill but Cliffs of Dover and see what it turns out like, If its pretty poor quality then i shall upgrade the GPU!

[janik_dk]

This is my system:
Intel I7 920 @ stock speed
XFX Geforce GTX285
12 GB DDR3 RAM
2 x Intel x25m SSD (Raid 0)

I wonder if my Graphics Card is due for an upgrade? (To GFX480 ?)

Any input would be much appreciated :)

[Riddlin]

Looking for some help. Can't do a complete 'rebuild' of my entire rig yet but when I built this one 3-4 years ago it was with the HOPE that I could upgrade at least once before I HAD to build again.

ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor (OC'd to 3.36 and have ran it stable with HUGE Fan/HS to a quite a bit faster)
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB(2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel
EVGA GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
OS = WinXP 32

So, I was thinking at first I would just upgrade the video card since the 2GB RAM limits on XP makes upgrading to 4GB RAM kinda silly until I can get Win7 64.

What are your thoughts? Like I said, I am really stuck with the MoBo for now so, is it worth upgrading or just wait a year and rebuild a new one from the ground up?

Thanks in advance!
R

[jibo]

@janik_dk : your gtx 285 is definitely outdated for CoD, you should go for a modern gtx580. The gtx480 was a error they pushed the heat and power consumption way too much.
If it's too expensive, going for a short term "cheap" upgrade (ex : a second hand gtx460) could also be a good idea while the game is being optimized.

@Riddlin yes you can upgrade but will it be enough to play CoD some day ? that is the question, you should wait, also i've read that the game is having some strange bugs over xp this needs to be sorted out, anyway you can still buy a 2gig stick of ram (ddr and xp will support it, in fact).

[klem]

My quick 2p

Riddlin, Your PC can access 3.4(?)Gb RAM and 32 bit applications usually can allocatre a full 2Gb for its use so going to 4Gb wouldn't be a waste and would ensure a full 2Gb for say IL-2 or CoD.

A GPU upgrade could also be helpful. Really depends on whether the GPU or the Processor is the current limiting factor (I don't know that one).

janik, agree with jibo but if you can't afford the 580 the 570 is a good second bet although it has less memory (1.3Gb).

[janik_dk]

Jibo & Klem:
Thanks for your answers guys! It'll be a 570 or 580 :)

[Riddlin]

@Riddlin yes you can upgrade but will it be enough to play CoD some day ? that is the question, you should wait, also i've read that the game is having some strange bugs over xp this needs to be sorted out, anyway you can still buy a 2gig stick of ram (ddr and xp will support it, in fact).

Well, I have a copy of Win7 Pro waiting on me when I decide to upgrade so that is a plus.

RAM I can get this: Kingston HyperX 4GB (4 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500). Its less than $80.

The thing I am worried about is the vid card...with what I will be setting it on, any suggestions as to what would be the best?

Your PC can access 3.4(?)Gb I have the CPU OC'd rock solid stable at 3.31Gig. I got it up to 3.84Gig right after I bought it but it was running really hot and all I have is an air cooling system(9 case fans and a huge copper HS/Fan from Zalman(sp) & the GPU has crap ton of added HS and a Zalman HS/Fan on it as well).

If you meant RAM...I have 4 slots for that.

[Martinho]

Get this as well with a geforce 9500 gt :(

Well, I went and bought it from Steam.

Installed it, and it almost runs...I guess the bit about supported cards was not to be taken lightly.

I am using a Toshiba F60 with 4GB Ram, 2.66 processor and unfortunately for me an Nvidia GT330M. And I use a 22" monitor attached.

I get this error message when the game starts : nvidia windows kernel mode driver 267.76 stopped responding.

I can view the menu, except the pilots and aircraft, and if I hit fly...nada.

And I have tried updating the drivers.

Anyway, I guess my question is: Will these Laptop cards ever be supported?

[Osprey]

MULTIPLAY: Broadband connection with 128 kbps upstream or faster



You've got to be kidding? 128kbps UP. That pretty much rules out anybody with ADSL

[OG84]

You've got to be kidding? 128kbps UP. That pretty much rules out anybody with ADSL

I guess they mean kilo bit per second. so this should be fine for adsl...

[Krt_Bong]

PC CONFIGURATION

OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows® 7 Ultimate*
PROCESSOR: AMD Phenom II X4 3.1GHz*
RAM: 4GB*
DirectX® 10*
SOUND CARD: X-fi Extreme
NVidia®: 9800GT 512Mb*

PERIPHERALS: Mouse, keyboard (Saitek X-52/Pro pedals)

MULTIPLAY: Broadband connection 25Mb


Yep I should be able to play this!

[TheGrunch]

I wouldn't bet on it. Not with that graphics card.

[nearmiss]

Krt_Bong

I wouldn't worry about the VC at this time. Give the devs and community a chance to start posting configurations and settings.

I have an nvidia 8800 512 single card. I remember when I bought it how it was outdated and such, and everyone was pushing SLI.

Addressing all those VC wasn't not as facilitated as people were saying. In fact, by having one card I was at better FPS than all the SLI users with few exceptions.

You can see my specs below aren't too different than your own. I have vista 64 and Win 7 64. I run the IL2 - 4.101 with the Vista and get great performance and graphics.

[nearmiss]

Krt_Bong

I wouldn't worry about the VC at this time. Give the devs and community a chance to start posting configurations and settings.

I have an nvidia 8800 GTS 512MB single card. I remember when I bought it how it was outdated and such, and everyone was pushing SLI.

Addressing all multiple VC wasn't as facilitated well as people were saying. In fact, by having one card I was at better FPS than all the SLI users with few exceptions.

You can see my specs below aren't too different than your own. I have vista 64. I run the IL2 - 4.101 with the Vista and get great performance and graphics.

http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_8800.html

[TheGrunch]

That's true, it is better to wait until we know whether the game will continue to hog graphics memory. From what we've seen, though, 512MB and even 1GB of graphics memory is just not enough.

[Krt_Bong]

Well I didn't say I won't be buying a new Graphics card, just not yet. I too am taking a wait and see approach, till I have the game installed it's all purely speculative.

[merlin1]

I think the game is far ahead of today's hardware capacity. Even before the outcome was clear that the latest hardware barely satisfy the needs for normal flight.

rgr.

[airsheep]

hi
i have the following system:
i2500k~4ghz, gtx560ti 1gb, 2x2gb 1033 ddr3 rams resolution: 23" 1920x1080
I think this is enough most of the games that was released in the last few weeks/months.
I bought CoD from Steam and I've trying how to set the video options to make it flyable.
As I see the game is flyable (doesn't matter where you are flying, above sea or London, but it need a bit time to load buildings, etc, and above sea it runs a bit fluently)
So I think we need an optimisation patch (core usage, etc) and it will solve most of the problems.
Great work guys, just continue and this will be the best sim ever :)
(sorry for my english I'm from Hungary, -I hope you understand)

[MaDMaX68]

hi
i have the following system:
i2500k~4ghz, gtx560ti 1gb, 2x2gb 1033 ddr3 rams resolution: 23" 1920x1080
I think this is enough most of the games that was released in the last few weeks/months.
I bought CoD from Steam and I've trying how to set the video options to make it flyable.
As I see the game is flyable (doesn't matter where you are flying, above sea or London, but it need a bit time to load buildings, etc, and above sea it runs a bit fluently)
So I think we need an optimisation patch (core usage, etc) and it will solve most of the problems.
Great work guys, just continue and this will be the best sim ever :)
(sorry for my english I'm from Hungary, -I hope you understand)

Your English is better than my Hungarian ! Lol so ur welcome :grin:

My system doesn't not arrive till monday
i7 2600 3.4ghz WC
8GB ddr3 1333mhz ram
Samsung 24" 1920x1080 monitor
ATI 6870

I am excited to c if mine plays CoD well

An given what my system is I won't lose sleep if it does not play well as I think it's been established the game needs patching :cool:

[JG14_Jagr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pBiRUBW8vM

36 He111's and 12 Spitfires..

FRAPS locked the fps at 30 but without FRAPS on its around 40-45 at 1920X1200 Video settings on HIGH, Mirrors OFF, then set roads OFF, grass OFF, forests to VERY LOW, and most importantly. set buildings to lowest detail and number settings.. everything else remains HIGH

Runs great..

[Krt_Bong]

One thing I've looked into when considering a vid card is that it have a 256 bit bus, it makes no sense to buy a card with 2 Gb VRam and have a 128 bit bus and there are plenty at reasonably low prices but I cant see wasting money on them. I would consider a 1 Gb card and 256 if it will run the game a reasonable Med High settings, but I will wait to see what ppl say after the end of April when the optimisation has been made. I don't really want to spend $200 on a vid card but when new stuff comes out the other cards tend to come down a little in price and rebates are more appealing if they bring a cards price down 20-30 bucks. I just want to know what the best specs for some of these middle weight cards should be before spending my money.

[Triggaaar]

I will wait to see what ppl say after the end of April when the optimisation has been made.Just remember, it's not THE optimisation, just the FIRST optimisation.

I don't really want to spend $200 on a vid card but when new stuff comes out the other cards tend to come down a little in price and rebates are more appealing if they bring a cards price down 20-30 bucks.There are some excellent deals on the last generation of cards about, but the next gen aren't due until the end of the year, so I think it'll be a while before prices of the current gen will fall. Like you say, see what results people get with cards like the 470 and 5870 after the patch, as there should be good deals on those cards.

[Gallandwolf]

My system presently is old faitful Quad 6600, Geforce GTX 460, 4gb Ram, Windows 7 and SSD harddrive which in my opinion gives the final boost that enables me to play the latest games quite well.

CoD is the only one I've tried where I notice that a faster system would be better, but I hope in the future patches will optimize the game and make it faster.

[AKA_Tenn]

I have a E6550 OC'd to 3.1GHz, 4GB DDR2 ram and a HD5850

I have shadows, grass, roads, land detail, effects, model detail, damage decals all set to high, everything else on low on 1920x1200

here's what it looks like, highly compressed and downscaled to 1280x720... its only laggy cause of fraps :S

width=500 height=128

[clayp]

So the NV GTX 295 is not supported?....NVidia®: 8800/9800/250/260/275/285/460/465/470/480

[janpitor]

SLI support is in works, but nowadays you must turn off the second core.

[ATAG_Doc]

I just installed it last night and I have surprisingly good results over London. I have a bit of shutter but nothing major at all. Everything is set to highest settings and I am getting great fps 90+ as long as the ground is not generating all its details. I absolutely love the attention to detail that's been put into this. I was stunned at just the beauty of the scenery and the lighting.

[Cadfaele]

Just purchased the game, checked the minimum specs and then confirmed with "Can You Run It?" http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/intro.aspx

http://cadfaele.fileave.com/Min%20Specs%20CoD.jpg


I realize that my video card is not supported but it does meet the minimum specs. When I start the game I get the introduction but no pilot or aircraft images in "Options" and when I click "Fly" the games crashes to desktop, with game continuing in the background with sound but no video. I receive the warning " Display driver has stopped responding and has recovered".
The video drivers are up to date 275.33 and the game is the latest version 1.02.14821. I've tried various settings without success, any advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers

[Cadfaele]

Thanks Doc, as usual I found your excellent post AFTER I'd posted my plea for help.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20769

Cheers

[Cadfaele]

Thanks Doc and all those who helped...

Cheers