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STINGERSIX78

01-04-2010, 10:22 PM

ok, now i m confused...
edals or kozzmos squadrons ?
i would prefer edals choice...

http://topbanana.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/confused.jpg

edal86

01-04-2010, 10:30 PM

ok, now i m cofused...
edals or kozzmos squadrons ?
i would prefer edals choice...

My choice for USSR Squadrons are a recommendation only but USSR team players will have the decision to change these or keep them. Kozzmo selected USSR team and he knows how you guys fly and get along better. So the decision is for the USSR team.

* You have until January 8th to decide (please name your flight groups and if possible create an insignia or something for them.

* In case anyone missed the UK Flight Groups, they are now on the first page of this thread.

kozzm0

01-05-2010, 06:22 AM

I appreciate your confidence in picking me for your sqaudron, may I volunteer for the position of sacraficial lamb:-)

That said I cant register on the Team USSR site, gets caught in a loop on the "agree to terms" page.

Apparently the squadrons are only for score tabulation, not for actual fighting, meaning your squadron isn't the "team" for matches.

Since you can't register, I'll create an account with your name and pm you a default pass, then you can alter the pass at leisure. <edit: done. Check your pm's.>

mage and reaper your accounts are now active

stlngerslx there is no decision for the squadrons as yet... if we all register on shtabvvsov.getphpbb.com then we can figure it out or vote on it... post your squadron ideas there and I'll set up a poll when there's enough choices

but they aren't who you'll be fighting with, so it's not that important what the squadrons are.

edal: there is no such psn id as filthyprick, what's the correct PSN ID?

edal86

01-05-2010, 08:12 AM

Ok, count me in...thanks for making the effort to set this up.

Can you please let us know your PSN ID.

He is part of VAS so his PSN must be on the VAS Squadron Thread

[edit] found it PSN ID is Lance1721

InfiniteStates

01-05-2010, 09:50 AM

Random thought: time to sticky this, trk? ;)

fangface666

01-05-2010, 12:52 PM

Since you can't register, I'll create an account with your name and pm you a default pass, then you can alter the pass at leisure. <edit: done. Check your pm's.>

Cheers for that will log in now:grin:

haitch40

01-05-2010, 03:05 PM

btw edal are we going to implement my idea of protect the vip style game or not?

STINGERSIX78

01-05-2010, 06:26 PM

mirgervin
trueshotcaller
mage
stingersix

confirmed

edal86

01-05-2010, 07:28 PM

btw edal are we going to implement my idea of protect the vip style game or not?

yes, I will. Thanks again for the idea

Kozzmo,

if team USSR squadrons are not ready by January 8 (Friday) please assign squadrons yourself. If I do not receive the ready squadrons by this day, I will use the squadrons that I listed earlier.

kozzm0

01-05-2010, 07:43 PM

I see you changed the group name from "squadron" to "flight group," which is good since squadrons are at least 8 planes. 4 can be a flight. But a flight group is bigger

edal86

01-05-2010, 07:46 PM

I see you changed the group name from "squadron" to "flight group," which is good since squadrons are at least 8 planes. 4 can be a flight. But a flight group is bigger

good lets keep them as Flight when they are named then.

kozzm0

01-05-2010, 07:51 PM

edal86

01-05-2010, 08:47 PM

pans1t has told me he definitely can't play before march, so we're short a player.

We'll have the flights ready, don't worry. Some of us are more enthusiastic about it than others. Some of us are posting on other threads today but completely ignoring this one. I'll get them to pay attention, but if necessary, those that pay attention will choose for themselves, and those that don't, I'll choose for them.

ok, thanks. I have to do a couple of things before I head to work. When I return from work I will post the rules. So by the time the world awakes tomorrow, they should be able to read the rules.

good luck to all.

** About the one man short, he will still be on your team. There are players in the UK team who I have not heard from either. However, I contact a member of the Rogue squadron, he is interested in joining, so if you like, you can take him. I have not heard from dkwookie though, and I have sent him plenty of messages. We will figure it out, dont worry.

* another thing you could do is to recruit someone new. What ever happened to maninovka? Recruit someone for the USSR team if you like. All other new players will be drafted.

STINGERSIX78

01-06-2010, 06:07 AM

i will ask tommykocher.

btw...
limited ammo on/off ?

edal86

01-06-2010, 07:18 AM

i will ask tommykocher.

btw...
limited ammo on/off ?

All matches will be limited ammo/limited fuel

STINGERSIX78

01-06-2010, 08:28 AM

All matches will be limited ammo/limited fuel

:(
i hate it, to suicide me for ammo.
especially in strike-games. 1 bombdrop and then kamikaze ??
for me in dogfights, it makes no differences, limited on/off... only bail out for ammo sometimes.
this suxx.
if we could rearm in the game, limited ammo makes sense.
but how it is, we should use unlimited.

or get we special-combat rules for this event ?

haitch40

01-06-2010, 08:44 AM

:(
i hate it, to suicide me for ammo.
especially in strike-games. 1 bombdrop and then kamikaze ??
for me in dogfights, it makes no differences, limited on/off... only bail out for ammo sometimes.
this suxx.
if we could rearm in the game, limited ammo makes sense.
but how it is, we should use unlimited.

or get we special-combat rules for this event ?

hmm we should be with limited fuel but ammo? im on the fence

haitch40

01-06-2010, 08:48 AM

btw also what are we doing about korsun which will represent ukrain will we fight here or will this be considered soviet home terortory and falls with stalingrad? and i do mean falls as the british will win

STINGERSIX78

01-06-2010, 08:58 AM

edal86

01-06-2010, 09:08 AM

i use bnz tactics.
make 3-4 attacks,
shoot one,
get out of ammo,
bail out for ammo. stats 4-0 , kd 1-1...
next attempt.
annoying... :(

i think, the post-patch long reloadingtime is painfull enough in dogfights.
we have also limited bombs in unlimited-mode.

or i circle around for 30min and get a kd 1-0... ^^

Sorry, limited fuel/ammo will remain official. Maybe you will be more careful on the trigger. Dont worry it will work fine, I want it to be as realistic as possible. Unfortunately, there is no rearming option for the game. Only bombers will be allowed to re-fuel and re-arm.

* Just be careful with your ammo, dont waste it if you see a team mate going for the same target, dont fire too soon. I bet that by the end of the tournament you will be get 5 kills for every death.

edal86

01-06-2010, 09:12 AM

im on the final details of the rules, they should be out of the oven in an hour or so :D

STINGERSIX78

01-06-2010, 09:17 AM

Only bombers will be allowed to re-fuel and re-arm. ????

i am curious. ^^

(maybe , i choose a stuka for the dogfight ^^)

edal86

01-06-2010, 10:03 AM

Only bombers will be allowed to re-fuel and re-arm. ????

i am curious. ^^

(maybe , i choose a stuka for the dogfight ^^)

lol, yes. Oh, Jets and the BF 110 too, if your team can afford them ;)

[edit] sorry, only fighter planes will be allowed in (team deathmatch) and CTA. You can use the BF110 :)

edal86

01-06-2010, 10:44 AM

Sorry guys, Im to sleepy now and tired, I will have everything posted by Tomorrow afternoon before I go to work. I want to be as satisfied as possible with the rules before I post them. I hope the wait will be worth it for you guys (in my opinion it all looks very nice :D)

I will probably have these rules on probation for the first 2 weeks to see how the numbers work. I may alter them a little just to adjust them to participation. Also, let the 2 weeks be a time of evaluation so that you guys can post any problems with the rules or extra suggestions. I just full of ideas, that is why I could never finish them. 10 pages that had to be turned in to 2 pages so that I could still have a little life of my own lol.

Hope you like them Kozzmo as soon as you read them please critique them and tell me about it. Good night

InfiniteStates

01-06-2010, 10:52 AM

I just full of ideas, that is why I could never finish them. 10 pages that had to be turned in to 2 pages so that I could still have a little life of my own lol.
Good work, fella... welcome to the world of game development and feature-creep lol. Maybe you can patch them later...? :-P

STINGERSIX78

01-06-2010, 11:44 AM

lol, yes. Oh, Jets and the BF 110 too, if your team can afford them ;)

[edit] sorry, only fighter planes will be allowed in (team deathmatch) and CTA. You can use the BF110 :)

hmmm, the bf110 is my second choice for a dogfight ... ^^
and i m sure, i would never have any problems with low ammo.... hmmm.

kozzm0

01-06-2010, 02:47 PM

i use bnz tactics.
make 3-4 attacks,
shoot one,
get out of ammo,
bail out for ammo. stats 4-0 , kd 1-1...
next attempt.
annoying...

i think, the post-patch long reloadingtime is painfull enough in dogfights.
we have also limited bombs in unlimited-mode.

limited ammo is better for the bnz'er than the dogfighter. Dogfighters waste a lot of ammo firing long bursts, and miss a lot too. Even the best have accuracy of maybe 3 percent.

That video I posted on the team site, it is limited ammo. When you bnz the target doesn't move around so much, so you can hit it with short bursts.

lol, yes. Oh, Jets and the BF 110 too, if your team can afford them ;)

[edit] sorry, only fighter planes will be allowed in (team deathmatch) and CTA. You can use the BF110 :)

ok false alarm about the jets but what's this about affording the planes? Are bf110's supposed to be a premium item?

trueshotcaller

01-06-2010, 03:45 PM

Sorry Stinger & Kozz - I think you PSN messaged me while I was playing the MAG beta - I couldn't reply - the action in that game is hectic lol...

I'll roll with the team Stinger posted, or where ever Kozz thinks I should go if that team hasn't been *approved* - just let me know. I'll try to join your website today Kozz... anything I missed during my MAG binge?

P-51

01-06-2010, 03:55 PM

I'M happy with ether your group kozz or edal choice for teams. Just stick me where you think I'll do best!

STINGERSIX78

01-06-2010, 04:26 PM

kozzm0

01-06-2010, 06:14 PM

I'M happy with ether your group kozz or edal choice for teams. Just stick me where you think I'll do best!

reaper plz register on http://shtabvvsov.getphpbb.com and wait a few hours for me to activate it, then check the site

mirgervin
trueshotcaller
mage
stingersix
are
RED-REAPERS

ok, you're the red reapers, then, as long as it's considered fair

P-51

01-06-2010, 06:38 PM

reaper plz register on http://shtabvvsov.getphpbb.com and wait a few hours for me to activate it, then check the site

ok, you're the red reapers, then, as long as it's considered fair

Have mate :D

edal86

01-07-2010, 08:59 AM

mirgervin
trueshotcaller
mage
stingersix
are
RED-REAPERS

I will see if this group is fair as soon as I see all the other USSR Flights.

edal86

01-07-2010, 11:16 AM

Yes, I know. Finally!

After a long time of editing I have finally completed this baby.

Hope you enjoy, it is loading to Photobucket as I type (I seriously Hope its not too big a file) :S

Please post Opinions, thoughts, Doubts, Questions. I want to make sure you all understand these rules before the Beginning of the Tournament.

I still need to edit the European Map and Rank Insignias so Ignore those now.

I must delay the Official start of the Tournament until Sunday (for Organization Purposes) But Beginning Tomorrow perhaps, there will be a Pre-Official Start of "Battle for Europe". The Pre-Opening will determine: which 3 players (from each team) will obtain top 3 ranks for the first time, and which team will control Italy (the team that wins Italy will also be allowed to choose 2/3 Missions Settings for the first week of the Official Start of the Tournament.

[edit] Im having trouble with the image size :S

Spitfire23

01-07-2010, 12:07 PM

Ahhh great news!

Cant wait to see what you got coming and get this badboy on the road :grin:

edal86

01-07-2010, 12:19 PM

lol, I had to cut it into pieces but its finally Done!!!

Rhah

01-07-2010, 12:39 PM

edal86

01-07-2010, 12:55 PM

Woah..... My brain hurts a bit after reading that!! :) .... but, it seems like a pretty good setup. My only concern is with the challenging and hosting of games. Potentially we could be looking at regular 8vs8 matches, and that will require hosts with very good connections to minimise lag.

Its a lot of material I know, most of it is just to explain how the system will work. You probably did not finish reading it all because you posted before I added the last piece.

I dont think we will have a problem with 8 vs 8 because this will be a rare case to have that many players online at once. Even if we had all players online at once it could work by splitting them into the 3 different Briefings. Example: 4 vs 4 on Territory Capture and the other 6 vs 6 on Strategic Bombing. I think these rules give many of options.

People, it sounds complicated because I explained EVERYTHING. However, you guys will only have to worry about playing, and knowing what the briefings are each week. That is all. Only if you get to the top 3 ranks, then, a little more understanding will be required. Maybe when I add the Map of Europe and Briefings you will find it easier (visuals help many).

Kozzmo,
It is important that you read them, tell me what you think. Since you have that private website for the USSR you will be my link to them.

Rhah

01-07-2010, 01:00 PM

edal86

01-07-2010, 01:14 PM

You're right... I did jump the gun a bit there... Having read the rest of the rules it definitely makes more sense. You must have put a lot of time into this mate.... Cheers!

So the "warm-up" game is on saturday? Damn, I won't be able to make that one, but I'll hopefully be able to get involved when the tourny starts properly next week.

Looking forward to it!

Thanks, this makes me feel much better. I was worried about not being able to send the message across correctly. Yes, It took some time and thinking that is why I really want people to understand how these rules work, Everything will be more fun if you understand how it all works, and it may even stimulate you to want to get more involved. :D

P.S. Everything has an explanation. I have more pages and notes to answer any "what if ?" situation. Ask and you will get an answer (please be sure to read all of the rules before posting a question, though)

thanks

Rhah

01-07-2010, 01:51 PM

After reading through it, I'm thinking that I'd quite like to get involved in the strategy of side of the tournament (assuming I can get a high enough rank). However, some people will just want to turn up and fly, so maybe you could do a very brief set of rules for those players. Maybe something like this:

For the player’s who just want to fly and aren’t worried about ranks and strategy.

Basic rules of the tournament:- Most importantly, Please listen to you what your superior officers say. They will let you know when the matches are, what aircraft are to be used, and your role in the battle.
- Treat all other players with respect.
- Add Edal86 to your friends list, so that you can send him screenshots if necessary.
- Add as many other players (from both teams) as you can to our friends list
- There are 4 types of matches: Air superiority (Team deathmatch), Strategic Bombing (Strike), Capture territory (Capture the Airfield) and VIP escort (Bomber escort on strike mode). The type of match will be chosen by the ranking officers on each team.
- Before the match starts, make sure you have the correct aircraft and loadout, and then ready yourself (So the green tick is showing). The host will start the match only when every player has done this, and a screenshot has been taken.
- Edal86 and the Officers in each team will take care of screenshots and statistics.
- No ramming bombers
- No ramming aircraft that have landed
- No babysitting captured airfields. Once and airfield has been captured, take off and fight asap.
- Officers cannot use the I-153.
- Each flight has can have a maximum of 200 deaths. Once that limit is reached, all ranks in that flight are reset.

Special rule for Bomber pilots:
Bombers are allowed to “re-arm”, To do this you can land your aircraft on your teams side of the map and take a screenshot (via the XMB menu) with the map opened, and your speed, altitude and bomb load at zero. For coastal maps like Sicily and Britain, you are allowed to land anywhere.
Please send the screenshot to Edal86 so that he can adjust the stats accordingly.
*Any editing of screenshots will result in a 2 week suspension from the tournament

STINGERSIX78

01-07-2010, 02:00 PM

ok...
hard to translate everything for me. :(
so i make some questions.

screenshot via xmb ? how i am able to do this ?

Rhah

01-07-2010, 03:02 PM

ok...
hard to translate everything for me. :(
so i make some questions.

screenshot via xmb ? how i am able to do this ?

Open the XMB (Cross media bar) by pressing the PS button on the control pad, then scroll left till you see the camera. Under that menu there is an option to "save screenshot". You can attach those screenshots to private messages

kozzm0

01-07-2010, 03:13 PM

Kozzmo,
It is important that you read them, tell me what you think. Since you have that private website for the USSR you will be my link to them.

first, I can't play sunday unless it's after 5 pacific time

I also doubt most or all of us will be ready to play for ranks today either. it would be better if we understood all the rules first... there are enough to make your head spin even if you're a native English speaker

I will have to re-read them to have a complete opinion but the first impression is it will work as long as people actually show up for the matches, and as long as there's no serious lag.

A few things that could be trouble:

) the i-153. Not that we mind having it.
) if sitting on an airfield is illegal, bombing the airfield should be also. Using a landed plane's MG is at least realistic and doesn't destroy the runway like bombs do. Drop 5 bombs on a runway and it's not a runway anymore.
) why only 1/3 bombers in strike missions? They're not so hard to kill.
) does a team have to win the war before they can get hangar E? Since both sides will buy the best possible hangar, they'd have to hold 4 territories for 3 weeks, or 3 for 5 weeks.
) strike mode is still pretty glitchy about when targets are actually destroyed. Also what about kamikazes in bomb missions?
) The rules will have to be translated into at least 2 other languages. If this starts in just a couple days, there will be a lot of people playing who don't know the rules, and will just jump into a furball as usual. Or who don't understand they can use an i-153 in that initial furball, or that they might face a whole team of i-153's.
) If the VIP is allowed an Arado, what do they even need an escort for? If a jet is crossing the map, it's gonna cross the map, there's no stopping it. Even an me-262 would get one head-on shot at most, after turning it would be too far behind to catch it in time. Though to get an Arado, I guess you have to win the war first to get hangar E
) 3 briefings a week... means 3 matches a week? That's impossible even in a 1 on 1 tournament.

STINGERSIX78

01-07-2010, 03:24 PM

irrelevant

01-07-2010, 03:26 PM

Whoa... I think I'm going to need to print the rules and read them a few times. This stuff is pretty intense.

Rhah

01-07-2010, 03:32 PM

oh dear...
a translation would be important. for me...
next questions
the briefing would explain, what options for a battle was choosen by our officers ?
anytime i died, i lost my rank ? or only when my flight lost 200 ?

There will be a briefing (on this forum, or on the USSR forum) to explain what game type and aircraft type. Also, your officers might contact you by private message if they have time.

You only lose rank when your flight loses all 200 lives. You all lose your rank and start from the bottom again. Only rank is affected though.

InfiniteStates

01-07-2010, 03:41 PM

Special rule for Bomber pilots:
Bombers are allowed to “re-arm”, To do this you can land your aircraft on your teams side of the map and take a screenshot (via the XMB menu) with the map opened, and your speed, altitude and bomb load at zero.
Has this been tested with aviator control pad layout? Because you have to hold start for map and L2 to stay still. The number of times I've forgotten and just gone into the trees while not looking at the screen lol.

I don't know how this operates with the XMB too... maybe I'll try tonight...

Steyr_amr

01-07-2010, 03:44 PM

Has this been tested with aviator control pad layout? Because you have to hold start for map and L2 to stay still. The number of times I've forgotten and just gone into the trees while not looking at the screen lol.

I don't know how this operates with the XMB too... maybe I'll try tonight...

Exactly my thoughts too, though I believe when you press start your throttle locks, many a match where I have to adjust sensitivity settings at the onset, I go full WEP, nose up a little then press start to change, the aircraft remains at full power even when I'm tinkering.

Mage_016

01-07-2010, 03:54 PM

Has this been tested with aviator control pad layout? Because you have to hold start for map and L2 to stay still. The number of times I've forgotten and just gone into the trees while not looking at the screen lol.

I don't know how this operates with the XMB too... maybe I'll try tonight...

when you press ps button game pauses and leaves your other buttons as you were pressing them. then you can take your snapshot. it´s better to practice this before tournament.

irrelevant

01-07-2010, 04:05 PM

when you press ps button game pauses and leaves your other buttons as you were pressing them. then you can take your snapshot. it´s better to practice this before tournament.

I thought it only paused in singleplayer. The action keeps going when you press the PS button online. :confused:

P-51

01-07-2010, 04:34 PM

I thought it only paused in singleplayer. The action keeps going when you press the PS button online. :confused:

Pauses the position of the buttons, so if you were banking and pulling to turf then you will keep doinb it.

I need practice!!

Zatoichi_Sanjuro

01-07-2010, 04:35 PM

Any places available?

irrelevant

01-07-2010, 04:39 PM

Pauses the position of the buttons, so if you were banking and pulling to turf then you will keep doinb it.

I need practice!!

oh, i misread his post. need more coffee!

winny

01-07-2010, 04:42 PM

I was wondering what we're gonna call our flight?

I'm working on a signature and wondered?

winny

01-07-2010, 04:45 PM

I used 54 sqn as a test...

Rhah

01-07-2010, 04:46 PM

Any places available?

There is no limit on the amount of players for this one. Just send Edal86 a message and you're in.

Rhah

01-07-2010, 04:47 PM

Cheers dude... you just gave me a great idea. I've been trying to think of a name for the flight I'm in, and I think I've got it: 666 Squadron :D

Of course, the other guys have to approve, but I'm putting dibs on it for now.

irrelevant

01-07-2010, 05:08 PM

I used 54 sqn as a test...

I'm cool with whatever. :cool:

P-51

01-07-2010, 05:15 PM

oh, i misread his post. need more coffee!

Wow.. Some serious typo's! I think I need the coffee!

kozzm0

01-07-2010, 05:35 PM

Any places available?

we're waiting on a couple of prospects to take over sgt pappy's spot, other than that new players can be drafted every week

STINGERSIX78

01-07-2010, 05:51 PM

trueshotcaller

01-07-2010, 07:38 PM

This looks like its gonna be great fun. Looks detailed - edal you worked HARD on this! If we need to push the start date back just to make sure we all understand properly, we should.

kozzm0

01-07-2010, 07:42 PM

1. u only need to take screenshots, if u are landed, and stand still. works fine.(+stats at the beginning and ending)

2. ive asked tommykocher, he would fly with the russians. but he has biiig problems with the english speech. (me to ^^)
so he wouldnt join this forum.

Macademic ist Östreicher, er kannt vielleicht helfen besser als mich... I can't translate the rules, maybe he can

Tell tommykocher he's welcome to join the tournament later, though he may end up on either team. Wir haben ein ander Flieger gefinden (gefunden? Ich vergesse...)

.

This looks like its gonna be great fun. Looks detailed - edal you worked HARD on this! If we need to push the start date back just to make sure we all understand properly, we should.

Yes, as long as it took you to write all that, it will also take all of us a while to read and comprehend it... and translate it into French and German. Which probably only Macademic and philabong can do.

fangface666

01-07-2010, 07:46 PM

Just read through the rules.....Edal you have been busy, awesome stuff.

One question though regarding the team list in post #3, I assume they are PSN ID's

cos if they are I will be adding them all to my friend list, as per your suggestion, except for filthyprick who's ID I believe is Lance1721

philabong2

01-07-2010, 08:42 PM

This looks like its gonna be great fun. Looks detailed - edal you worked HARD on this! If we need to push the start date back just to make sure we all understand properly, we should.

i agree

... and translate it into French and German. Which probably only Macademic and philabong can do.

i'll do the french translation, should be ready by tomorow evening

STINGERSIX78

01-07-2010, 09:21 PM

i think, i understand now everything. if there is a question from a german comrade i will help him.

edal86

01-07-2010, 09:52 PM

Thank You guys,

Rhah,
Thanks for answering some of the players questions, I think you understand the rules pretty well.

Winny,
That signature of Squadron 54 looks amazing. What program do you guys use? You are not using Paint right? lol

Philabong,
You are a live saver once more. Thanks for doing the French Translation (again) :D. If Macademic could translate to German it would be great.

To All,
Since the rules are pretty juicy and "intense" as you guys say, Would any of you mind Delaying the Official Start until Monday, January 18? The Pre-Openning would Start Tuesday, January 12.

Fangface666,
Yes, the players names on the Team's Post are the PSN ID's (except for Filthyprick)

Kozzmo,
Zatoichi, Sanjuro can be on your team if you like since you will have a man less until March. Let me Know so I can add him to the team list.

edal86

01-07-2010, 10:23 PM

first, I can't play sunday unless it's after 5 pacific time

A few things that could be trouble:

) the i-153. Not that we mind having it.
) if sitting on an airfield is illegal, bombing the airfield should be also. Using a landed plane's MG is at least realistic and doesn't destroy the runway like bombs do. Drop 5 bombs on a runway and it's not a runway anymore.
) why only 1/3 bombers in strike missions? They're not so hard to kill.
) does a team have to win the war before they can get hangar E? Since both sides will buy the best possible hangar, they'd have to hold 4 territories for 3 weeks, or 3 for 5 weeks.
) strike mode is still pretty glitchy about when targets are actually destroyed. Also what about kamikazes in bomb missions?
) The rules will have to be translated into at least 2 other languages. If this starts in just a couple days, there will be a lot of people playing who don't know the rules, and will just jump into a furball as usual. Or who don't understand they can use an i-153 in that initial furball, or that they might face a whole team of i-153's.
) If the VIP is allowed an Arado, what do they even need an escort for? If a jet is crossing the map, it's gonna cross the map, there's no stopping it. Even an me-262 would get one head-on shot at most, after turning it would be too far behind to catch it in time. Though to get an Arado, I guess you have to win the war first to get hangar E
) 3 briefings a week... means 3 matches a week? That's impossible even in a 1 on 1 tournament.

* Your availability, kozzmo, will not affect the tournament, as long as you are able to visit this forum on Mondays

* I-153, this plane I dont mind prohibiting it, its USSR's choice, I did want to limit its use though (no officers may use it). If you are an officer I will just subtract the kills that a player had with it from the deaths of the enemy. (I will count the deaths of the I-153 officer as punishment. (believe me, I will have updated data of everything.)

* Bombing a landing or landed enemy in CTA is ok (This is directly from Il2 1946 Hyperlobby server rules "Grounded Planes can be attacked by bombs and rockets only". It may be frustrating to explode while trying to capture an Airfield but that is where organization and team work comes in. (15 second respawn will help a little) Maps with 2 airfields must be priority option settings.

* Bombers (1/3) they are easy to kill without proper fighter support. I may change this to 1 bomber per every 2 players. However, the number of bombers used will be the team's decision.

* "Hangar E" Example: If the UK controls the UK, Ardennes, Italy, and Germany for 1 week that adds to 4500 Income that week (assuming a team Resource providers are 0% damaged. A team can save resources by purchasing Hangar A most of the time. Hangar E is meant to make it possible to fly Jets, but really limit the times they are used.

* Glitchy Strike, it takes about 2 successful bombing runs by a big bomber to destroy 1 target. Crashing into the Ground Target (kamikaze) to damage it will result in 2 week suspension (this will need to be reported)

* Translations. Philabong posted that he will translate to French, Maybe Macademic can tranlate to German. (You dont have to translate everything just what is inportant for gameplay. Tournament may be delayed until Monday, January 18.

* Arado will be impossible to reach in VIP Escort, but if a team has sacrified so much to save up 5000 resources then it is only fair to allow them to use this plane, besides; its the VIP :). Anyway, it is very unlikely that a team will happen to have 5000 resources to spare at the same time that a Air Commodore is Promoted to the VIP Rank.

* 3 briefings a week = unknown number of matches. matches may take place any time, and any day as long as it is within the date limit or until a team reaches the Briefing's Cummulative Objective. Example: I am online a wednesday and irrelevant, silence and rhah are online playing COD, then I also see Varcus2 and Olife- (as always :)) online. After that, Mirgervin and Macademic suddenly log in. Now it will be 4 vs 4. As long as one player on each team have the appropriate Rank, then we can play any of the 3 Game modes. We can play as many matches as we like until we get bored or decide that is better for the team to stop playing (or a player needs to leave "whatever reason"). Then, the screenshots will be sent and the data will be gathered and added. Updated data of the result of matches will be posted 2 or 3 times a week (or when a team completes a Briefing's Objective.

STINGERSIX78

01-07-2010, 10:28 PM

next question ...

u decide what mission we have to play?

winny

01-07-2010, 10:30 PM

Winny,
That signature of Squadron 54 looks amazing. What program do you guys use? You are not using Paint right? lol

Photoshop.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/Sigs/signatureir24.jpg

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/Sigs/signaturert.jpg

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/Sigs/signaturewin.jpg

I might have a go at doing some rank insignia for you.. If you want?

edal86

01-07-2010, 11:01 PM

next question ...

u decide what mission we have to play?

Players must decide (attacking team players must decide)

Example: If I am Wing Commander and I got to choose the Settings for that week's Air Superiority Briefing, then I will be attacking side. Remember, in order to get promoted my team needs to have mission successful at the end of the week for Air Superiority Mission. If my interest is to get promoted, then, you will most likely find me online all day everyday, hosting Air Superiority Matches (team death match in strike). Understand? Or since I am Wing Commander, I will be able to accept any CTA or any other challenge matches from the attacking team. I can also host CTA or STRIKE (bombing) matches to help out my team. I am using myself as in general, it could be you in this situation

edal86

01-07-2010, 11:04 PM

Photoshop.

I might have a go at doing some rank insignia for you.. If you want?

I will let you know thanks for the offer. Photoshop is expensive software?

* its dihno28 not 48

A signature must have all 4 players on it please, this way it will be easier for me to edit.

*** Can you please make me a signature with all players of my squadron/flight:
edal86, infinitestates, haitch40, hrok81
- name it 201st Fighter Squadron, please
- same concept of the RAF insignia, but can you have the P-47D instead of the spitfire?

THANKS in advance

edal86

01-07-2010, 11:23 PM

I have to go to work now.

Please, those who understand the rules fell free to answer any question that a participants has so that their question does not get lost in my absence.

* Rhah can help

winny

01-08-2010, 12:23 AM

I will let you know thanks for the offer. Photoshop is expensive software?

* its dihno28 not 48

A signature must have all 4 players on it please, this way it will be easier for me to edit.

*** Can you please make me a signature with all players of my squadron/flight:
edal86, infinitestates, haitch40, hrok81
- name it 201st Fighter Squadron, please
- same concept of the RAF insignia, but can you have the P-47D instead of the spitfire?

THANKS in advance

I'll have a go.. have you got a squadron badge/logo? Oops about Dihno.. removed it.

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx

01-08-2010, 12:53 AM

I will let you know thanks for the offer. Photoshop is expensive software?

It can be ;) lol.

kozzm0

01-08-2010, 01:38 AM

Thank You guys,

Philabong,
You are a live saver once more. Thanks for doing the French Translation (again) :D. If Macademic could translate to German it would be great.

if it weren't for philabong, varcus and olife would have no idea what was going on

macademic is on vacation for the next few days

To All,
Since the rules are pretty juicy and "intense" as you guys say, Would any of you mind Delaying the Official Start until Monday, January 18? The Pre-Openning would Start Tuesday, January 12.

that is a good idea, though weekdays depend heavily on time of day. The 18th is far enough away that I can schedule a day off, but tuesday's not. I gotta work at 9:30gmt

Kozzmo,
Zatoichi, Sanjuro can be on your team if you like since you will have a man less until March. Let me Know so I can add him to the team list.

beat you to it, check your inbox

what about the i-153's, and dropping bombs on runways

Mage_016

01-08-2010, 04:18 AM

edal86

01-08-2010, 06:15 AM

that is a good idea, though weekdays depend heavily on time of day. The 18th is far enough away that I can schedule a day off, but tuesday's not. I gotta work at 9:30gmt

what about the i-153's, and dropping bombs on runways

You dont need to go as far as to ask for the day off, The tournament starts on the 18th, but matches can be played throughout the week. I bet the first day will be slow, then as players know that it has started, it will pick up participation (hopefully) :)

I did answer all of your questions, check the post # 321

edal86

01-08-2010, 06:19 AM

I was thinking, if I could copy those rules (text form) I would be able to put it in some translator (google or..?). So it maybe would be easier to me get the big picture of what's going on. I think you can't copy text on that rules pic. Or am I wrong? * I'm browsing with my mobilephone now, so I can't try it*

I have the text document for the rules, you wont be able to copy paste the text on the posted document because it is an image.

Spitfire23

01-08-2010, 06:23 AM

I was thinking, if I could copy those rules (text form) I would be able to put it in some translator (google or..?). So it maybe would be easier to me get the big picture of what's going on. I think you can't copy text on that rules pic. Or am I wrong? * I'm browsing with my mobilephone now, so I can't try it*

Yeah, like edal said its an Image. And putting it through a translator on google will not translate it anywhere close to what the original said.

i tried translating something for that Stiinger guy and it turned out terrible, however it was funny to see when he translated it back to me.

Spitfire23

01-08-2010, 06:27 AM

I have the text document for the rules, you wont be able to copy paste the text on the posted document because it is an image.

edal buddy you have created something special here, i understand most of it but its nothing reading it afew times over wont solve. Besides once we all play afew matches first we should all get the hang of things :grin:

Couldn't have been more thorough with the rules. You really have gone over everything twice haven't you ;)

edal86

01-08-2010, 08:04 AM

edal buddy you have created something special here, i understand most of it but its nothing reading it afew times over wont solve. Besides once we all play afew matches first we should all get the hang of things :grin:

Couldn't have been more thorough with the rules. You really have gone over everything twice haven't you ;)

Thanks :D, it is what I was aiming for.
Yes, as soon as people get the hang of things it will be better. first week may be chaos, I hope I will be wrong

winny

01-08-2010, 08:50 AM

Hrok81

01-08-2010, 09:38 AM

edal86

01-08-2010, 09:41 AM

I've done one for 201st..
i used the real 201st logo, let me know if you'd prefer something else (I can easily change anything on here)

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/201squadron.jpg

wow, it looks amazing :D

can you use this insignia instead?
http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt184/edal86/logo-1.jpg

Sorry, one last thing, can you make it all a little bigger?

Thanks winny

Steyr_amr

01-08-2010, 09:43 AM

I've done one for 201st..
i used the real 201st logo, let me know if you'd prefer something else (I can easily change anything on here)

That's very impressive, you have quite a knack for doing these. Regarding the emblem though I think edal has the Mexican 201st in mind, they flew P-47s during the Second World War. I'm not entirely sure what their emblem looked like though, but here's the wiki page on them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/201_Squadron_%28Mexico%29

EDIT: Beaten to it by the man himself, I thought you had gone to sleep edal lol.

edal86

01-08-2010, 09:58 AM

EDIT: Beaten to it by the man himself, I thought you had gone to sleep edal lol.

Still here buddy lol,

Im editing the Map right now

InfiniteStates

01-08-2010, 10:02 AM

I've done one for 201st..
i used the real 201st logo, let me know if you'd prefer something else (I can easily change anything on here)

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/201squadron.jpg
I wasn't gonna mention, but if you're making other changes, can you change the spelling of my name? :)

Cheers - awesome effort. Thanks. I hope you're not on the OpFor cos I'll feel bad shooting you down now lol

edal86

01-08-2010, 10:06 AM

I wasn't gonna mention, but if you're making other changes, can you change the spelling of my name? :)

Cheers - awesome effort. Thanks. I hope you're not on the OpFor cos I'll feel bad shooting you down now lol

He is on our side :D

have you not checked the first page of this thread? It has all the players and what team they belong to. Also, check the rules if you have not already done so. Thanks :D

winny

01-08-2010, 10:14 AM

edal86

01-08-2010, 10:35 AM

I've enlarged it and added the proper emblem...

If you want it any bigger it'll take a little longer but is still fairly easy.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/large201squadron.jpg

If there's anything else you'd like just ask.

I just want to mention that the background on this is a picture of the sky over london during the Battle of britain..

Impressive work My friend, I could have not imagined it better :)

oh, yeah. You typed Infinitestates wrong, but other than that it is perfect.

* could not tell it is Battle of Britain, nice detail :D

Spitfire23

01-08-2010, 10:42 AM

haitch40

01-08-2010, 10:43 AM

Spitfire23

01-08-2010, 10:44 AM

ok the question remains what are we doing about korsun or are we not playing that map
also the rules still look a little confusing but i will wait tilll we start to ask any questions incase they are answered in game

Im sure Edal will want so well deserved sleep soon, so if you have any questions buddy, i will try my best to answer ;)

winny

01-08-2010, 12:13 PM

wow, Winny really is an artist when it come to these. Im extremely excited to see if he will do me and my flight a signature. But im sure he realises hes going to have to do all flights in the squadron as anything else just isn't as good as Winny's designs :grin:

Ok. Let me know the name of the Squadron/Flight, type of aircraft and what logo/emblem you'd like.

Here's the correct one.. Just for InfiniteStates

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/201squadron-1.jpg

I cleaned the P47 up a bit too.

irrelevant

01-08-2010, 12:49 PM

nice work, winny! i'm impressed. :cool:

Spitfire23

01-08-2010, 01:10 PM

Ok. Let me know the name of the Squadron/Flight, type of aircraft and what logo/emblem you'd like.

Here's the correct one.. Just for InfiniteStates

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/201squadron-1.jpg

I cleaned the P47 up a bit too.

If the rest of my flight dont mind i would quite like Flight No:617 with a lancaster maybe?? that sound ok?

InfiniteStates

01-08-2010, 01:33 PM

Here's the correct one.. Just for InfiniteStates
Awesome, thanks man :)

Someone could call their flight United 93 or U93, or is that a bit too controversial? :confused:

Spitfire23

01-08-2010, 01:36 PM

Awesome, thanks man :)

Someone could call their flight United 93 or U93, or is that a bit too controversial? :confused:
You mean as in respect for the hijacked airline? if so i like it

InfiniteStates

01-08-2010, 01:37 PM

You mean as in respect for the hijacked airline? if so i like it
Yeah - the one's that successfully caused target denial. R.I.P (Awesome film as well, although some don't like it).

Spitfire23

01-08-2010, 01:43 PM

Yeah - the one's that successfully caused target denial. R.I.P (Awesome film as well, although some don't like it).

I still haven't got around to watching that film, i know some of the story already. if its on the PS store then i will definately rent it. its sad what happened that day but atleast they prevented those extremists from hitting their target.

R.I.P.

winny

01-08-2010, 02:07 PM

I've done one.. I'm not sure I like the Lancaster pic, it's hard to find a good side on pic...

If you see a better one let me know.
http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/617squadron.jpg

Spitfire23

01-08-2010, 03:04 PM

yea i see what you mean, still looks nice though. Would it be possible to change the avro to this
Sorry for the change in mind

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af57/VenomSpitfire/p-40.png

Rotor Trash

01-08-2010, 05:06 PM

nice work winny

Steyr_amr

01-08-2010, 05:39 PM

nice work winny

Yeah they're really well done, I just attemped to one for myself but needless to say it didn't turn out well haha, Publisher, paint and Illustrator are about as much as I can manage.

winny

01-08-2010, 05:46 PM

yea i see what you mean, still looks nice though. Would it be possible to change the avro to this
Sorry for the change in mind

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af57/VenomSpitfire/p-40.png

That's more like it.. Should be done by tomorrow, unless I get bored tonight.

Thanks to all who've left me comments about the sigs..

And if anyone else wants a sig just let me know.. Except you ruskies ;)

(you can if you want!)

Spitfire23

01-08-2010, 06:16 PM

I have come across an online editor which doesn't require download. Can come in pretty handy if you dont want to download any software

http://www.blibs.com/editor/

philabong2

01-08-2010, 07:55 PM

1.1 La base
- Soyez respectueux en tout-temps et volez avec honneur
- Soyez certain de savoir comment prendre des « screenshots » avec votre PS3
- Je recommande d’ajouter tous les participants, amis et ennemis, à votre liste de contact
- Visitez cette page régulièrement pour les mises à jour. Les 3 premiers posts serviront de bulletin
- Connaissez votre rang et sa fonction
- Les casques d’écoute sont recommandés

1.2 Victoire et mode de jeu
- 2 équipes : UK vs USSR
- L’équipe qui obtiendra le contrôle de tous les territoires gagnera (UK, Ardenne, Italie, Allemagne, USSR)
- Réduire les ressources et le Manpower de l’ennemi pourrait être l’élément décisif pour obtenir la victoire
- Consistera en 4 modes : suprématie aérienne, bombardement stratégiques, capture de territoire et escorte de V.I.P.

1.3 Escadrons/Groupes
- formés de 4 joueurs (2 expérimentés, 2 débutants)
- chaque groupe est alloués 200 morts cumulatives
- 200 morts = le groupes entier à été tué en action
- chaque fois qu’un groupe atteint 200 morts, ils auront à recommencer au rang le plus bas, a moins qu’un membre du groupe obtienne le rang de Wing Commander ou mieux (voir la section des rangs)

1.4 Rangs et leurs fonctions
Airmen
- Cadet d’aviation : (rang de respawn) Chaque fois qu’un joueur obtient le statut de « tué en action », il renaît à ce rang.
- Caporal : (5 kill confirmés ou 3 sorties) Félicitation, vous êtes maintenant un ace.
- Sergent de vol : (8 kill ou 6 sorties)
- Maître équipage de vol : (10 kill ou 8 sorties) Ce rang vous permet d’accepter (seulement) les matches de supériorité aérienne de l’ennemi ou d’être l’hôte de celles-ci si vous êtes l’équipe à attaque.

Officiers
- Officier de vol : (15 kill ou 10 sorties) Félicitation, vous êtes maintenant un officier. Ce rang vous permet d’accepter (seulement) les matches de bombardement stratégique de l’ennemi ou d’être l’hôte de celles-ci si vous êtes l’équipe à attaque.
- Lieutenant de vol : (20 kill ou 13 sorties) Vous pouvez maintenant accepter (seulement) le matches de capture de territoire de l’ennemie ou d’être l’hôte de celles-ci si vous êtes l’équipe à attaque.
- Chef d’escadron : (25 kill ou 15 sorties) Vous pouvez maintenant accepter n’importe lequel matches des 3 modes (sup aèrienne, bombardement ou capture) de l’enemie ou d’être l’hôte de celles-ci si vous êtes l’équipe à attaque.

Le Big 3 (seulement 1 membre de chaque groupe peut occuper ces rangs à la fois)
- Wing commander : (30 kill/18 sorties ou Desperate Times aura besoin de vos services) Vous avez obtenu le droit de promouvoir n’importe lequel de vos membre au rang de Officier de vol (1 fois par respawn). Vous êtes maintenant responsable de défendre ou de planifier les missions de supériorité aérienne. Si vous êtes vainqueur, si obtiendrez une médaille.

- Capitaine de groupe : (doit obtenir une médaille en tant que Wing commander ou Desperate Times aura besoin de vos services) Vous avez obtenu le droit de promouvoir n’importe lequel de vos membre au rang de Lieutenant de vol (1 fois par respawn). Vous êtes maintenant responsable de défendre ou de planifier les missions de bombardement stratégique. Si vous êtes vainqueur, si obtiendrez une médaille.

- Commodore de l’air : (doit obtenir une médaille en tant que Capitaine de groupe ou Desperate Times aura besoin de vos services) Vous avez obtenu le droit de promouvoir n’importe lequel de vos membre au rang de Chef d’escadron (1 fois par respawn). Vous êtes maintenant responsable de défendre ou de planifier les missions de capture de territoire. Aussi, si vous êtes Officier commandant (vous avez le plus haut rang de votre équipe), vous êtes responsable de choisir les options des avions de votre équipe pour la saison (semaine). Si vous êtes vainqueur, si obtiendrez une médaille.

Le V.I.P (ce rang est honorifique et ne sera pas toujours occupé par un joueur)
- Maréchale de la R.A.F. : Ceci est le plus haut rang pour les membres de la RAF. Le seul moyen d’obtenir ce rang est d’obtenir les 3 médailles décrites plus haut. Vous êtes responsable de choisir les avions de votre équipe pour la saison (semaine). Ce rang débloque également la mission d’escorte de VIP. Si vous réussissez cette mission, vous allez être intronisé au temple de la renommée et allez recevoir un bonus pour aider la cause de votre équipe.

- Généralissimus de l’Union Soviétique : Ceci est le plus haut rang pour les membres de l’équipe URSS. Les mêmes règles que celles du Maréchale de la R.A.F. s’applique à ce rang.

2.1 Ressources et Manpower
- Ressources : chaque territoire sous occupation fournira des ressources à chaque semaine à l’équipe occupante
UK(1500), USSR(1500), Allemagne(1000), Ardenne(1000), Italie(1000)

Qu’est-ce qui affecte les ressources?
- les ressources fournies par un territoire seront affectés en détruisant des cibles dans les missions de bombardement stratégique (chaque cible détruite= -50 des ressources fournies par le territoire dans la semaine)
- les territoires seront « réparés » pour redonner leur maximum de ressources toutes les deux semaines ou à chaque fois qu’elle change d’occupant
À quoi servent les ressources?
- Une équipe doit fournir 300 points de ressources pour franchir un territoire inoccupé afin d’attaquer un territoire qui ne borde pas ses frontières. Par exemple, si l’URSS ne contrôle pas l’Allemagne et veut attaquer Ardenne, ils devront utiliser 300 ressources. Si l’URSS ne contrôle pas l’Allemagne ni Ardenne et veux attaquer l’UK, ils devront utiliser 600 ressources
- Les équipes peuvent « acheter » des avions avec leurs ressources. Les avions achetées serviront pour la semaine

(voir tableau des hangars dans la version anglaise)

* le I-153 peut seulement être utilisé par des airmen ayant obtenu leurs rangs (aucun officier ne peut utiliser cette avion)
** vous ne pouvez utiliser que les avions produites par les territoires sous votre contrôle
***seul les bombardier on le droit de se ravitailler en munition et carburant (voir la section sur ce qui affecte le Manpower)

- Manpower (pilotes) : chaque territoire sous contrôle fournira de nouveau pilote recrus chaque semaine
UK(300), USSR(300), Allemagne(100), Ardenne(100), Italie(100)

Qu’est-ce qui affecte le Manpower?
- chaque avion descendue déduira 1 point de Manpower pour l’équipe et ajoutera 1 mort pour le total cumulatif pour le groupe/escadron
- chaque bombardier descendu déduira 5 point de Manpower pour l’équipe et ajoutera 5 mort pour le total cumulatif pour le groupe/escadron
- si un bombardier largue toutes ses bombes et réussi à revenir à son coté de la map et atterrit (il n’a pas à atterrir sur une base), alors il aura le droit de respawn (en s’éjectant une fois au sol) sans pénalité afin de se ravitailler. Un screenshot montrant le bombardier au sol, carte ouverte, vitesse et bombes à zéro, devra être fournit et envoyé à Edal. (Dans le cas d’une carte au bord de la mer(Britain et la Côte de Sicile) il pourra atterrir n’importe où)
** tricher avec les screenshot vaudra une suspension de 2 semaines du tournoi

À quoi sert le Manpower?
- Le Manpower disponible sera divisé en trois pourcentage (le briefing de capture du territoire devra avoir 50% du Manpower, les deux autre(supériorité aérienne et bombardement stratégique) recevront 25% chaque). Avant de soumettre son briefing, un commandant de vol ou capitaine de groupe peut demander un plus grand pourcentage que le 50%. Par contre l’officier commandant aura la décision finale. Aussi, pour des raisons stratégiques, l’officier commandant peut décider de ne pas utiliser tout son Manpower disponible (un minimum de 75% du Manpower doit être utilisé chaque semaine)
**Edal s’occupe des calculs

2.2 Les quatre modes (munition et carburant limités pour les 4)

Supériorité aérienne (bataille de groupe à Strike) respawn de 5 secondes
- matches de 10-20 minutes (vérifier les briefing chaque semaine pour info)
- au moins un des rangs suivants devra être présent dans chaque match pour chaque équipe : Maître équipage de vol, Chef d’escadron, Wing commander, Capitaine de groupe, Commodore de l’air, ou rang V.I.P.
- le Wing Commander de l’équipe à l’attaque choisira le territoire à attaquer, le temps de la journée et peut-être aussi le Manpower disponible
- ne pas avoir la supériorité aérienne sur un territoire causera à votre équipe de ne pouvoir envoyer que 75% du Manpower originalement prévu dans le briefing
- seulement les chasseurs peuvent être utilisés. BF-110 est ok
- l’objectifs de la mission pour chaque équipe sera décrite dans les briefing hebdomadaires
- le seul moyen d’obtenir la victoire est de tuer tous le Manpower envoyé par l’ennemi
- échouer cette mission vaudra au Wing commander d’être rétro-gradé au rang de chef d’escadron, ou tué (si son groupe de vol atteint 200 morts cumulatives)

Bombardement stratégique (match strike) respawn de 15 secondes
- matches de 20 minutes (vérifier les briefing chaque semaine pour info)
- au moins un des rangs suivants devra être présent dans chaque match pour chaque équipe : Officier de vol, Chef d’escadron, Wing commander, Capitaine de groupe, Commodore de l’air, ou rang V.I.P
- le Capitaine de groupe de l’équipe à l’attaque choisira le territoire à attaquer, le temps de la journée et peut-être aussi le Manpower disponible
- ne pas avoir la supériorité aérienne sur un territoire causera à votre équipe de ne pouvoir envoyer que 75% du Manpower originalement prévu dans le briefing
- seulement 1 bombardier pour 3 joueurs (seule l’équipe à l’attaque peut utiliser des bombardiers)
- l’objectifs de la mission pour chaque équipe sera décrite dans les briefing hebdomadaires
- détruire 10 cibles au sol (cumulatives) ou la totalité du Manpower envoyé par l’ennemi assurera la victoire à l’équipe attaquante
- détruire tout le Manpower envoyé par l’ennemi assurera la victoire à l’équipe défensive
- si aucune équipe n’atteint la victoire, alors les deux équipes sont considérée perdante et sont laissés avec les dommages encaissés (ressources et Manpower)
- échouer cette mission vaudra au capitaine de groupe d’être rétro-gradé au rang de chef d’escadron, ou tué (si son groupe de vol atteint 200 morts cumulatives)

Capture de territoire (match capture de base) respawn de 15 secondes
- matches de 20 minutes (vérifier les briefing chaque semaine pour info)
- au moins un des rangs suivants devra être présent dans chaque match pour chaque équipe : Lieutenant de vol, Chef d’escadron, Wing commander, Capitaine de groupe, Commodore de l’air, ou rang V.I.P
- le Commodore de l’air de l’équipe à l’attaque choisira le territoire à attaquer, le temps de la journée, le Manpower disponible et peut-être aussi les avions disponibles
- chasseurs seulement. BF-110 est ok
- les kamikazes seront punit (dégradé/suspendus). Aussi, aussitôt que vous avez atterrit et capturé la base, vous devez re-décoller immédiatement (violation à cette règle entraînera la même punition)
- l’objectifs de la mission pour chaque équipe sera décrite dans les briefing hebdomadaires
- ne pas avoir la supériorité aérienne sur un territoire causera à votre équipe de ne pouvoir envoyer que 75% du Manpower originalement prévu dans le briefing
- si le territoire à capturé a été bombardé avec succès (10 cibles détruites durant un bombardement stratégique sur ce même territoire), alors l’équipe à l’attaque n’aura qu’a gagner 4 matches (sinon ils auraient à en gagner 8 ) pour obtenir la victoire. L’équipe à l’attaque peut également obtenir la victoire en détruisant la totalité du Manpower envoyé par l’ennemi
- l’équipe défensive peut obtenir la victoire en détruisant la totalité du Manpower envoyé par l’ennemi ou en remportant 6 matches dans la semaine
- échouer cette mission vaudra au Commodore de l’air d’être rétro-gradé au rang de chef d’escadron, ou tué (si son groupe de vol atteint 200 morts cumulatives)

Escorte de V.I.P. (escorte de bombardier dans strike)
- match simple de 30 minute (vérifier les briefing chaque semaine pour info)
- le nouveau officier au rang VIP doit participer pour que le match compte (il choisira la carte)
- au moins 1 joueur de l’équipe à l’attaque doit être : Wing commander, Capitaine de groupe, Commodore de l’air ou rang VIP
- un briefing bonus expliquera les objectifs pour chaque équipe
- seulement les chasseurs et bombardier achetés cette saison pourront être utilisé (Arado est ok)
- l’équipe à l’attaque doit escorter les bombardier (joueur gradé VIP) à destination 2 fois pour avoir la victoire
- l’équipe défensive doit descendre le VIP 3 fois pour avoir la victoire (l’emboutissage est illégal)
- le VIP doit prendre un screenshot de la map pour confirmé qu’il a atteint sa destination. Le plus haut gradé de l’équipe à la défense doit prendre un screenshot des game stats aussitôt que le VIP montre 3 morts
- tous les participant de l’équipe gagnante seront promus d’un rang
- si l’équipe escortant le VIP obtient la victoire, ils gagneront automatiquement le contrôle du territoire. L’échec de la mission entraînera la mort du VIP

2.3 Briefings
- 3 briefings par saisons (semaines) seront affichés. Ils décriront les objectifs de missions pour chaque équipe
- la plupart des settings seront choisis par les Officiers du Big 3
- les saison et températures seront décidées par les saisons courantes (1 semaine = 1 saison, 4 semaine = 1 an)
- printemps (pluie) « durant la journée préférablement », été (claire), automne(bon), hiver(brumeux)
- chaque équipe attaquera 2 fois sur 3 et défendra 1 fois sur 3 à chaque semaine
- les statistiques des joueurs seront mis à jour 2-3 fois/semaine
- Post no.2 (contenant info des équipe et la carte d’Europe) affichera un feu de signalisation indiquant quand le Wing commander, Capitaine de groupe ou Commodore de l’air (ou VIP plus loin dans le tournoi) peut soumettre ses plan d’attaque (à envoyer à Edal par psn ou pm)
Vert : soumettre
Jaune : organisez et préparer à soumettre
Rouge : session en cours
- Les screenshots de tous les matches seront acceptés jusqu’à 11:59 pm heure du pacifique
- Les lundi seront les jours de planification, A SAVOIR : TOLÉRANCE 0 POUR LES SOUMMISSIONS TARDIVES
- l’équipe qui a à choisir les settings pour les 2/3 missions de la semaine devront soumettre tous leurs plans avant lundi 6h pm heure du pacifique. Ces plan seront affichés sur le troisième post pour que l’ennemi qui aura à se défendre 2/3 fois pourra en faire l’analyse
- ensuite l’équipe qui choisira les setting pour 1/3 missions devra soumettre son plan avant lundi 11 :59 pm heure du pacifique
* À tous les joueurs : si vous êtes un des top 3 officiers rankés et que vous savez que vous ne pourrez pas, ou ne voulez pas, décider du sort de votre équipe, SVP faite le savoir à Edal ou Kozzmo pour qu’ils décident à votre place

(voir les exemples de plans dans la version anglaise)

2.4 Info additionnelle importante
- pour tous les matches, 2 screenshots devront être envoyés à Edal (1 avant le match avec tous les joueurs avec le crochet vert « ready » sauf l’hôte, le second montrant le resultats du match). Recommande qu’un joueur (ou deux) par équipe prennent le cliché avant le match, et que deux joueurs de l’équipe gagnante prennent le cliché après le match
- en envoyant les screenshots à Edal, indiquez si c’est le 1er ou 2e et le numéro du briefing. Exemple du titre du message, utiliser B pour briefing : B USSR (001) 1st
- vous êtes responsable de vous assurer que vous êtes crédités pour vos matches
- setting du temps de la journée peuvent seulement être matin, jour et soir (pas la nuit)

2.5 Façon d’être suspendu/dégradé
- emboutir un chasseur est légal, emboutir un bombardier est illégal
- les chasseurs peuvent utiliser des bombes dans tous les matches. Seuls les bombardiers peuvent se ravitailler
- les kamikazes seront punis (pas de crash sur un avion au sol ou sur les cibles terrestres)
- pas le droit de garder une piste, aussitôt atterrit et la piste conquise, vous devez décoller
- c’est pas mal tout, les traîtres et espions seront exécutés sans procès… pour le reste amusez-vous!!

philabong2

01-08-2010, 07:58 PM

this is quite big so i'll delete this post once edal and kozzmo both have it and place it where they think will b best, unless they decide it should remain there
couldnt send it as pm cause its way too big

cheers guys

PS: 2 questions :
- whats that "called by desperate times" thing? - this is only mentionned in the big 3 ranking and doesnt refers to anything in the rest of the text
- what happens if u get to Wing commander or better and ur group gets to 200 cumulative deats? - again nothing in the text refers to that event but u do say something along the lines of "will respawn at air cadet rank UNLESS reached Wing commander rank or better"

edal86

01-08-2010, 11:29 PM

PS: 2 questions :
- whats that "called by desperate times" thing? - this is only mentionned in the big 3 ranking and doesnt refers to anything in the rest of the text
- what happens if u get to Wing commander or better and ur group gets to 200 cumulative deats? - again nothing in the text refers to that event but u do say something along the lines of "will respawn at air cadet rank UNLESS reached Wing commander rank or better"

Thanks again for your translation philabong :D (French Translation is already on the first post)

(can any one highlight philabong's french translation post and use google translation to translate the text to another language (example, German). Read it and please post if it is a good translation. (I did this already but I dont understand a thing in German so I could not tell, I have saved it as a document though just in case)

Answers to Your 2 Questions:
1. "Desperate Times": A team must always have 1 of each of the top 3 ranks so that they can manage the weekly briefings. So, even if a player does not have the appropriate medal they still may be promoted to one of these ranks. Example: The Air Commodore's team failed to complete the objective for that week's Territory Capture Briefing (he gets demoted to squadron leader or dies). The same week, the Group Captain of the same team completes the objectives for that week's Strategic Bombing Briefing (he gets medal and promoted to Air Commodore). Then, The Wing Commander fails the mission objectives for Air Superiority (he gets promoted to Group captain but no medal, unless there are 2 or more players that have achieved the requirements for Wing Commander, in this case the Wing Commander will get demoted to squadron leader or will die) Finally, The new Wing Commander's rank will be filled by a Squadron Leader that has all requirements to get the rank (or if requirements not met, it will be squadron leader with more sorties)

2. What happens if you get wing commander or better and your flight reached 200 deaths?
- If you reached the Wing Commander rank's requirements before your team reaches 200 deaths, then, your survival will now depend on your success in completing a week's mission objectives. Wether you die or get demoted to Squadron Leader depends on wether your Flight has reached 200 deaths or not (most likely they will have because it is a week's worth of deaths :)) Another thing, wether you are promoted to the next Big 3 Rank without a medal or get demoted to squadron leader depends on wether the mission objectives you failed happened during a week where you selected the settings (you were the attacking Officer)

* this system allows a constant refreshment of players managing a team, this way no one becomes dictator for a long time :)

haitch40

01-09-2010, 09:08 AM

if there is a game today or tomorow message me il be most likely playing mag

winny

01-09-2010, 10:10 AM

SubaruGaz, I'm much happier with this one.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/617squadron-1.jpg

Let me know if you'd like anything else

edal86

01-09-2010, 10:14 AM

SubaruGaz, I'm much happier with this one.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/617squadron-1.jpg

Let me know if you'd like anything else

I think you became our official squadron signature designer :D

great job on these!

Make sure you create one for your Flight too, same concept with the 4 player names on the bottom please

winny

01-09-2010, 11:50 AM

I think you became our official squadron signature designer :D

great job on these!

Make sure you create one for your Flight too, same concept with the 4 player names on the bottom please

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/54squadron.jpg

winny

01-09-2010, 12:15 PM

If you'd like this...

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/russiansquadron.jpg

Let me know

haitch40

01-09-2010, 12:17 PM

SubaruGaz, I'm much happier with this one.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/617squadron-1.jpg

Let me know if you'd like anything else

617 sqdrn? ur going to be flying some non existant lancasters dropping bombs that are totaly useless on ground targets then

P-51

01-09-2010, 12:18 PM

If you'd like this...

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/russiansquadron.jpg

Let me know

Depends if you have let your capitalist spies bug it? :P

haitch40

01-09-2010, 12:18 PM

If you'd like this...

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/russiansquadron.jpg

Let me know

cough traitor cough :D

MACADEMIC

01-09-2010, 02:16 PM

Hi Edal, Hi everbody,

I will translate the rules into German, but not before next week (probably Tuesday).

Greetings,

MACADEMIC

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Hallo zusammen,

Ich werde die Regeln auf Deutsch übersetzen, kann es aber erst kommende Woche angehen (vermutlich Dienstag). Bitte solange um etwas Geduld.

Grüsse,

MACADEMIC

edal86

01-09-2010, 03:23 PM

STINGERSIX78

01-09-2010, 04:05 PM

haitch40

01-09-2010, 05:02 PM

kozzm0

01-09-2010, 06:09 PM

Thank you for doing this Macademic :D

** Can anyone explain to me, help me, how to create a signature with animation? like Haitch40's?

Thanks, I tried using photobucket by creating a 2 image slideshow. It turned out to be what I wanted but I could not post it or edit my signature so that It would do the 2 image slideshow

create a multiple-layer image where each layer is a complete frame (not a transparency or an overlay) then save it as a .gif file.

When you save a .gif, there is an option to mark it as an animation, then it will play back as an animation on most browsers.

P-51

01-09-2010, 06:17 PM

Thank you for doing this Macademic :D

** Can anyone explain to me, help me, how to create a signature with animation? like Haitch40's?

Thanks, I tried using photobucket by creating a 2 image slideshow. It turned out to be what I wanted but I could not post it or edit my signature so that It would do the 2 image slideshow

Or mail me the stuff and ill do it for you :D (i did my sig, haitch40's and most of the VAS ones i think. - ones that look like mine)

kozzm0

01-09-2010, 06:25 PM

You dont need to go as far as to ask for the day off, The tournament starts on the 18th, but matches can be played throughout the week. I bet the first day will be slow, then as players know that it has started, it will pick up participation (hopefully) :)

I did answer all of your questions, check the post # 321

couple more, better to be a lawyer now than later:

) if you wipe out all the opponent's manpower during the middle of a match, do you play the match through to the end, or stop, or take a screenshot, or what...

it's possible that both teams manpower might be exhausted before the end of a match, if so there has to be some kind of evidence of which one died first.

) in territorial capture, do you have to take off if there's an opponent already landed on the runway? Maybe you finish the capture right before they get below 40kph, then as soon as you're above 40kph on the way to taking off, you see the message that opponent is capturing the airfield.

InfiniteStates

01-09-2010, 07:05 PM

** Can anyone explain to me, help me, how to create a signature with animation? like Haitch40's?
Use anything that can create/edit GIF animations. I use PaintshopPro myself - it comes with a separate animation editor.

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx

01-09-2010, 10:02 PM

Thank you for doing this Macademic :D

** Can anyone explain to me, help me, how to create a signature with animation? like Haitch40's?

Thanks, I tried using photobucket by creating a 2 image slideshow. It turned out to be what I wanted but I could not post it or edit my signature so that It would do the 2 image slideshow

Actually, while that's still a question, would anyone know how to get this ( http://img709.imageshack.us/i/p51.swf/ ) As a signature? I wanted it around X-mas time but obviously that didn't work... lol

edal86

01-10-2010, 12:22 AM

couple more, better to be a lawyer now than later:

) if you wipe out all the opponent's manpower during the middle of a match, do you play the match through to the end, or stop, or take a screenshot, or what...

it's possible that both teams manpower might be exhausted before the end of a match, if so there has to be some kind of evidence of which one died first.

) in territorial capture, do you have to take off if there's an opponent already landed on the runway? Maybe you finish the capture right before they get below 40kph, then as soon as you're above 40kph on the way to taking off, you see the message that opponent is capturing the airfield.

1) I will do my best to keep the each mission's progress updated. Once the mission objective for a team is completed I will post it so that players stop playing that game mode. There will be no guarantee, though, that players will know that they are playing the last decisive match. I will add all screenshots results by date and time that I receive them. To answer your question, you will always finish matches (I must receive screenshots of the End Match Results) except for the VIP Escort mission. If it is the case where both teams need only 10 (just as an example) deaths to fail the mission and on a decisive match the end results are 13 deaths to 11 deaths, then it will be mission success for the team with the least deaths (All of the deaths and kills of that match will count for a player's flight and team stats). I am not saying that this situation wont happen but keep in mind that most of the time a team will be at a disadvantage regarding the deaths they can afford in any given game mode (reasons: what team has air superiority over territory, # of manpower sent, and perhaps the enemy's planes are better :)

2) Since most Territory Capture will take place in maps with 2 airfields, there wont be as much vultures vulching. In any case, yes, if you capture an airfield and the game reads "Team A has Capture an Airfield" you must take off even if there is an enemy landing. (you will have plenty of time to get on his six and drop a bomb on him or machine gun him). I mean, what is the purpose in having a plane from both teams landed on same airfield waiting for the other to die, so they will be able to capture it? Hopefully, team work and communication will help these situations not to happen (like 2 guys clear the airfield and watch over the skies while another captures the airfield) Remember its about helping your team get mission success now, it is no longer about you and getting the most points in a match to go up the game's leaderboards. This Is why I created this tournament

kozzm0

01-10-2010, 02:39 AM

Aren't the only 2-airfield maps in UK and USSR? Gumrak/Stalingrad City and those two in the UK. Maybe in Korsun/Schevchevinskiy

trueshotcaller

01-10-2010, 02:45 AM

If you'd like this...

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/russiansquadron.jpg

Let me know

If you don't mind giving that to the Russian's RED REAPERS that would be cool with me!

Spitfire23

01-10-2010, 03:35 AM

SubaruGaz, I'm much happier with this one.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/617squadron-1.jpg

Let me know if you'd like anything else

Winny thats perfect, i love it! Thanks alot buddy :grin:

edal86

01-10-2010, 06:07 AM

Aren't the only 2-airfield maps in UK and USSR? Gumrak/Stalingrad City and those two in the UK. Maybe in Korsun/Schevchevinskiy

Iwill take a look at it, I thought there were more. I may just assign the korsun map to germany or italy then, and one of the UK maps to the ardennes, I will tell you guys when I figure it out. I really dont want CTA matches to happen on 1 airfield maps, what do you guys suggest?

kozzm0

01-10-2010, 06:52 AM

Iwill take a look at it, I thought there were more. I may just assign the korsun map to germany or italy then, and one of the UK maps to the ardennes, I will tell you guys when I figure it out. I really dont want CTA matches to happen on 1 airfield maps, what do you guys suggest?

How about use the native 2 airfields for whichever side controls the territory; if no side controls it, the side with air superiority; if no air superiority, flip a coin or use stalingrad for ussr-controlled zones and korsun for neutral. I'm not sure korsun even has 2 airfields.

requiring takeoff after completing a capture isn't enough to prevent 2 planes on the ground. There's also landing to stop a capture in progress.

... sorry but more details to hammer out: when a bomber returns to its side of the map, what exactly is its side? Past its own bunkers?

edal86

01-10-2010, 07:20 AM

How about use the native 2 airfields for whichever side controls the territory; if no side controls it, the side with air superiority; if no air superiority, flip a coin or use stalingrad for ussr-controlled zones and korsun for neutral. I'm not sure korsun even has 2 airfields.

requiring takeoff after completing a capture isn't enough to prevent 2 planes on the ground. There's also landing to stop a capture in progress.

... sorry but more details to hammer out: when a bomber returns to its side of the map, what exactly is its side? Past its own bunkers?

I just checked and there are only 2 maps with 2 airfields (Britain and USSR (stalingrad)). A side will always control a territory, a side will always have air superiority over a territory (Italy is Neutral because It would be unfair to give it to a team (it would be 3 territories to 2)

* How about: if the territory of interest for capture is badly damaged (10 targets were previously destroyed in Strategic Bombing) then, the CTA matches will take place in a single airfield map. If the territory was not successfully bombed, then, CTA matches will take place in 2 airfield maps. Wether the map is from Britain or the USSR will depends on who is defending the territory. It will either be like this example I just mentioned or just play each match according to the territory to capture no matter if there is only 1 airfield or two.

* Bomber return to base: yes, the bomber icon has to be behind friendly lines, that is near or behind the blue markers which represent your teams ground targets. That is why I ask for a screenshot of the landed bomber with the map open (the map is transparent and I will be able to see the plane and its speed and bombs.

* Capturing Airfields: If you are capturing an airfield and the percentage progress stops that means the enemy has landed. I guess you can stay there and wait for your enemy to be destroyed, but I dont want to see a plane landed after the airfield has been captured and when the closest enemy is not even near the airfield or is busy engaging your team mate in a dogfight. Understand? Of course we can go on with what if situations but I think that I am clear in what I mean. My main problem has been solved by not allowing bombers because I remember playing CTA and bombers would just rest on an airfield and shoot down any enemy getting near the airfield.

[edit] dont worry about questions, ask all the details necessary. I at least want you to understand all rules because USSR is now your responsibility. Any questions that may arise on your private website I will be happy to answer. If you understand these rules, then, I will assume USSR team understands them. Also, you can supervise that I am not bending the rules so USSR knows I am not favoring UK team

kozzm0

01-10-2010, 09:40 AM

I just checked and there are only 2 maps with 2 airfields (Britain and USSR (stalingrad)). A side will always control a territory, a side will always have air superiority over a territory (Italy is Neutral because It would be unfair to give it to a team (it would be 3 territories to 2)

* How about: if the territory of interest for capture is badly damaged (10 targets were previously destroyed in Strategic Bombing) then, the CTA matches will take place in a single airfield map. If the territory was not successfully bombed, then, CTA matches will take place in 2 airfield maps. Wether the map is from Britain or the USSR will depends on who is defending the territory. It will either be like this example I just mentioned or just play each match according to the territory to capture no matter if there is only 1 airfield or two.

...

* Capturing Airfields: If you are capturing an airfield and the percentage progress stops that means the enemy has landed. I guess you can stay there and wait for your enemy to be destroyed, but I dont want to see a plane landed after the airfield has been captured and when the closest enemy is not even near the airfield or is busy engaging your team mate in a dogfight. Understand? Of course we can go on with what if situations but I think that I am clear in what I mean. My main problem has been solved by not allowing bombers because I remember playing CTA and bombers would just rest on an airfield and shoot down any enemy getting near the airfield.

[edit] dont worry about questions, ask all the details necessary. I at least want you to understand all rules because USSR is now your responsibility. Any questions that may arise on your private website I will be happy to answer. If you understand these rules, then, I will assume USSR team understands them. Also, you can supervise that I am not bending the rules so USSR knows I am not favoring UK team

most of the contingencies will happen eventually. So if I understand it right, parking after capture is forbidden but landing to interrupt a capture is not.

Successful bombing already gives an advantage to the attacker via rules, but a single runway handicaps both sides. With 8 players it's like an air show by the 3 stooges, the marx brothers and laurel and hardy. The runway disappears in a haze of smoke

I hope the penalty for ramming bombers is for deliberate collision as opposed to accidents, if you attack a bomber intelligently with a weave pattern there's bound to be occasional collisions.

edal86

01-10-2010, 09:58 AM

most of the contingencies will happen eventually. So if I understand it right, parking after capture is forbidden but landing to interrupt a capture is not.

Successful bombing already gives an advantage to the attacker via rules, but a single runway handicaps both sides. With 8 players it's like an air show by the 3 stooges, the marx brothers and laurel and hardy. The runway disappears in a haze of smoke

I hope the penalty for ramming bombers is for deliberate collision as opposed to accidents, if you attack a bomber intelligently with a weave pattern there's bound to be occasional collisions.

* What I dont want is for a player to remain landed and impede the enemy from capturing the airfield. Dont worry about this matter anymore, I will bring it up to you guys if I see happening what I dont want to see happening.

* I dont believe in accidents in this tournament, either you ram an enemy bomber or you dont. You guys will just have to be extra careful when attacking bombers. Of course, it may happen without intention but you can always prevent this. Only if the bomber player reports this as intentional then I will punish the rammer as I stated. Remember bombers are worth 5 deaths for a reason (so they want to stay alive). In the case that the bomber player reports this but does not find that you did it intentionally I will still have to demote the rammer at least 1 rank

* CTA matter: I have to find a way for this. yes its true, a successful strategic bomber already helps the attacker in CTA. I will let you know or mention it on the actual Briefing objective

edal86

01-11-2010, 01:53 AM

Finally, I was able to create an animated signature with GIMP (it appears to be free a very simple to use) hehe

All members of my flight please use my animated signature this way I can update your rank (I sent you a PM with the image URL)

* I know the orange advertisement may not be very appealing but since you guys are in my flight you will help me advertise this tournament LOL, sorry

edal86

01-11-2010, 07:13 AM

Tournament's Inauguration is on Tuesday (check bulletin board)

Better be ready for the fight over the control of Italy guys

If a squadron/Flight has their signature design ready please post it so I can edit it and so that you guys will always have your signature updated!

Winny and Subarugaz, your squadron images look ready, you guys want me to begin monitoring them? If yes, please post and I will send you your signature via Private Message

kozzmo,
is team USSR ready?

Spitfire23

01-11-2010, 07:47 AM

edal86

01-11-2010, 07:50 AM

Attention UK Team players.

I got a response from an administrator regarding private threads.

* It turns out that we can create User Groups that can only be accessed if you receive an invitation.

I created one already titled -- "Battle for Europe" - RAF Squadron --

* I have started to invite you guys, so please check this out.

edal86

01-11-2010, 07:52 AM

Oh more than ready to take control of italy ;)

yes mate sig is ready, feel free to edit the signature

will do, give me 5 minutes dont log out so you can add the new image to your signature.
Also, join our RAF Squadron User Group.

Spitfire23

01-11-2010, 08:00 AM

will do, give me 5 minutes dont log out so you can add the new image to your signature.
Also, join our RAF Squadron User Group.

I dont see any RAF Squadron Group on the front page, and i have no messages :confused:

winny

01-11-2010, 08:02 AM

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/RRsquadron.jpg

This ok?

Spitfire23

01-11-2010, 08:20 AM

@Edal Sig works Perfect thanks, Have also messaged the Signature to everyone in my flight

winny

01-11-2010, 08:21 AM

I dont see any RAF Squadron Group on the front page, and i have no messages :confused:

If you go to User CP at the top of the page then go to social networks the RAF Squadron group is in there. Invite only obviously but I can see it at least.

edal86

01-11-2010, 08:24 AM

I dont see any RAF Squadron Group on the front page, and i have no messages :confused:

alright!! it worked :D

I have invited all of team UK to the user group "thread" . its not in threads, its in social groups (or user groups)
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/group.php <--- here is the link

Winny amazing work as always, is your flight's signature ready for me to monitor?

Spitfire23

01-11-2010, 08:31 AM

Yea, i found it now guys thanks :grin:

edal86

01-11-2010, 08:40 AM

Yea, i found it now guys thanks :grin:

great, a little privacy just in time :D

can moderators visit this? like trk29 who is in USSR team?

** winny join I sent you an invite already. same goes for all in team UK

link ----> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/group.php

Nike-it

01-11-2010, 08:44 AM

great, a little privacy just in time :D

can moderators visit this? like trk29 who is in USSR team?

** winny join I sent you an invite already. same goes for all in team UK

link ----> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/group.php

As far as I know he can. But he should check it himself.

winny

01-11-2010, 08:46 AM

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/54sqn.jpg

edal86

01-11-2010, 08:52 AM

As far as I know he can. But he should check it himself.

Thanks nike-it

Alright, I trust trk29 and I know he wont spy on us, so I am not worried.

Winny,
I will send you your tournament's signature via Private Message in 5 minutes.

Red Reapers,
your Tournaments Signature is ready, private message me so I can send it to you.
this is how it came out (thank Winny for designing it)
http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt184/edal86/squadrons/redreapers.gif

STINGERSIX78

01-11-2010, 09:52 AM

Thank you very much! for your work, winny.

how i can instal this sig with my ps3? ^^

edal86

01-11-2010, 09:58 AM

Thank you very much! for your work, winny.

how i can instal this sig with my ps3? ^^

click on the "USER CP" option.

check your "inbox". I sent you an IMG code.

Copy it, then, go to "Edit Signature" option on the left of your inbox message.

Paste it on the message box and click "edit" or whatever it says.

STINGERSIX78

01-11-2010, 10:03 AM

there is a BIG problem with this site, if u use the ps3 browser.

if u use java-script, the console will freeze.... :(

edal86

01-11-2010, 10:05 AM

there is a BIG problem with this site, if u use the ps3 browser.

if u use java-script, the console will freeze.... :(

???? I am using my computer right know, any way you can get access to a computer so you can edit your signature?

Nike-it

01-11-2010, 10:10 AM

there is a BIG problem with this site, if u use the ps3 browser.

if u use java-script, the console will freeze.... :(

Try to post anything, I updated your account with the signature.

STINGERSIX78

01-11-2010, 10:16 AM

uhm...
they will never capture germany.

in the sig-preview it looks ok,
but i see below only (SIGPIC/SIGPIC )

hey, thank u. now it works ! :)

Nike-it

01-11-2010, 10:21 AM

uhm...
they will never capture germany.

done:)

trueshotcaller

01-11-2010, 12:42 PM

Great stuff Winny, you're a talented man! Thanks for taking your time to do our sig!

winny

01-11-2010, 01:16 PM

Great stuff Winny, you're a talented man! Thanks for taking your time to do our sig!

No problem. It's Ivan Nikitovich Kozhdubs La-7 in the pic btw, for all you trivia buffs...

During WWII, Ivan Kozhedub flew 326 combat missions, took part in 126 aerial combats, and achieved 62 kills (in them 22 FW 190 and 18 Ju 87). The planes he flew were La-5 FN & La-7 fighters. In 1949, he finished the Zhukovski Military Aviation Academy. In 1956, he graduated from the High Command´s Academy, after which he was promoted to General.

haitch40

01-11-2010, 03:08 PM

there is a BIG problem with this site, if u use the ps3 browser.

if u use java-script, the console will freeze.... :(

it happend to me as well so i switched to using comp

STINGERSIX78

01-11-2010, 03:11 PM

comp ? what is *comp*?

Rhah

01-11-2010, 03:13 PM

comp ? what is *comp*?

Computer.

STINGERSIX78

01-11-2010, 03:18 PM

hmmm, now im feeling dumb... ^^

haitch40

01-11-2010, 04:48 PM

hmmm, now im feeling dumb... ^^

bow your head in shame soviet scum :D

STINGERSIX78

01-11-2010, 05:16 PM

learn to fly..

^^http://www.funnybeez.com/funnypictures/air-force-training.jpg

kozzm0

01-11-2010, 05:46 PM

kozzmo,
is team USSR ready?

I doubt anyone is really ready, if you were to ask everyone on both teams what the rules are, I doubt even 1/3 of them would be able to tell you.

There's no German translation of the rules, I don't know if varcus2 and olife- have seen them, and Mirgervin apparently doesn't have a pc and can't figure out how to use his ps3's web browser.

But nobody is gonna pay any more attention than they already are unless it starts. So we're as ready as we're gonna be.

The bomber collision penalty will force attackers to park on the 6 like idiots. Charging the 5 deaths to the fighter's side instead of the bomber's, regardless of the collision's cause, would be as effective a deterrent to ramming, without also being a deterrent to attacking properly. Attacking a bomber without getting hit requires making close passes.

this is what I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42g_lMOewJ4

in particular the pass leading up to 0:57 (a kill, though it might not show if it plays slow.) Impossible for the gunner to hit, gets the best angle on the engines and wings. There is always risk of collision, but it's not as much risk as being in the gunner's cone.

edal86

01-11-2010, 10:44 PM

I doubt anyone is really ready, if you were to ask everyone on both teams what the rules are, I doubt even 1/3 of them would be able to tell you.

There's no German translation of the rules, I don't know if varcus2 and olife- have seen them, and Mirgervin apparently doesn't have a pc and can't figure out how to use his ps3's web browser.

But nobody is gonna pay any more attention than they already are unless it starts. So we're as ready as we're gonna be.

The bomber collision penalty will force attackers to park on the 6 like idiots. Charging the 5 deaths to the fighter's side instead of the bomber's, regardless of the collision's cause, would be as effective a deterrent to ramming, without also being a deterrent to attacking properly. Attacking a bomber without getting hit requires making close passes.

in particular the pass leading up to 0:57 (a kill, though it might not show if it plays slow.) Impossible for the gunner to hit, gets the best angle on the engines and wings. There is always risk of collision, but it's not as much risk as being in the gunner's cone.

*It will be helpful if at least they knew the Tournament Begins tomorrow. Varcus, olife, mirgervin, are always very cooperative if you let them know what to do.

* Sorry, I wont change fighter vs bomber rules (unless I am completely unhappy with them after this first week, which will be mostly be used as testing). I saw your video and from al the attacks, how many collisions took place? See what I mean, players must be careful, this does not mean that they should "park at a bombers 6".

-- 5 deaths for each time a bomber dies = bomber players will want to keep themselves alive (also, it may motivate them to try and "return to base"). This may motivate bomber players to try to land instead of kamikazeing into the ground targets when they still have a healthy bomber.

-- Fighter player being demoted or suspended for ramming bombers = fighter players will want to be more careful not to ram bombers.

*** I had to think what was fair for both sides for everything, since in this situation (Strategic Bombing) everything "revolves" around the Bomber, I thought of many possibilities and this came out to be the best.

STINGERSIX78

01-11-2010, 11:24 PM

and if my wreck, after the tailgunner shots me down, hit the bomber ?
happens often...

edal86

01-11-2010, 11:35 PM

and if my wreck, after the tailgunner shots me down, hit the bomber ?
happens often...

this is the only case where it will be considered an accident (it happens rarely)

edal86

01-11-2010, 11:42 PM

Attention USSR team:

please post before 11:59pm (Monday, January 11. Pacific Time) What Hangar option you would like. You guys got 2500 resources to spend and you can afford all Hangar Options except for Hangar E.

** If an Hangar is not selected, then, for this occasion only, I will choose Hangar D for you which includes all planes except Jets. (both La's are included)

*** If kozzmo does not reply to this message I will use any other USSR team member's decision.

(I will be here at 12:00am pacific time (tuesday) to post this week's briefing's.)

jimhaze4evr

01-12-2010, 12:01 AM

so i want to join. psn is jimhaze4evr. im intermediet flyer. how do i get on a team?

STINGERSIX78

01-12-2010, 12:05 AM

air-superiority over italy ?

we should take hangar-D

blitzkrieg.... ^^

ezee63

01-12-2010, 12:38 AM

Anyone from 617 Sqaudron gonna be on tonight ? Id id like to practice circling at altitude above the furball while the "aces" in my squadron rack up the kills. :p

Im Pacific Time Zone.

edal86

01-12-2010, 02:21 AM

so i want to join. psn is jimhaze4evr. im intermediet flyer. how do i get on a team?

You read the rules already?

You will be drafted to any of the 2 teams soon, I will let you know via Private Message.

kozzm0

01-12-2010, 04:23 AM

*It will be helpful if at least they knew the Tournament Begins tomorrow. Varcus, olife, mirgervin, are always very cooperative if you let them know what to do.

if they are online, or if they happen to read their PSN messages when they are, which many players skip. I've directed Mirgervin to both sites numerous times, as far as I know, he hasn't even seen the rules yet. I'm sure there are many players on UK team who haven't either. It's hard enough getting a few people to do something right - look how long the AoA tournament is dragging on.

* Sorry, I wont change fighter vs bomber rules (unless I am completely unhappy with them after this first week, which will be mostly be used as testing). I saw your video and from al the attacks, how many collisions took place? See what I mean, players must be careful, this does not mean that they should "park at a bombers 6".

-- 5 deaths for each time a bomber dies = bomber players will want to keep themselves alive (also, it may motivate them to try and "return to base"). This may motivate bomber players to try to land instead of kamikazeing into the ground targets when they still have a healthy bomber.

-- Fighter player being demoted or suspended for ramming bombers = fighter players will want to be more careful not to ram bombers.

Not surprising since you haven't modified one rule that I've commented on.
I wonder why you even asked me to comment.

The video is a best-case scenario. In practice, for every 10 bombers, close weave nets on average about 8 kills, 1 shot-up engine, and one collision. Which is pretty damn effective and has nothing to do with ramming bombers. Using it would result in a collision within the first 5 matches - within probably a couple days. So will more distant attacks. In the one strike match I played today, philabong crashed into my bomber - attacking from the 6. Not intentional. Suspension for that is ridiculous.

The only equally effective attack with less risk of collision is to boom and zoom, but that's not effective when the bomber starts out only a few miles from the target.

*** I had to think what was fair for both sides for everything, since in this situation (Strategic Bombing) everything "revolves" around the Bomber, I thought of many possibilities and this came out to be the best.

Except you are not on both sides, you are playing in the tournament, and you published the rules after the sides were chosen, not before.

Of course the bombers shouldn't be rammed. But I'd sure like to hear the "many possibilities" that were all worse than the extreme measure of suspending a player for accidental contact.

philabong2

01-12-2010, 04:35 AM

... In the one strike match I played today, philabong crashed into my bomber - attacking from the 6. Not intentional. Suspension for that is ridiculous...

In all fairness, I have to say that i suck

bad speed judjment + terrible shooting skills = getting blinded by ur own tracers and running into whatever's right infront of u...

trueshotcaller

01-12-2010, 05:09 AM

No problem. It's Ivan Nikitovich Kozhdubs La-7 in the pic btw, for all you trivia buffs...

During WWII, Ivan Kozhedub flew 326 combat missions, took part in 126 aerial combats, and achieved 62 kills (in them 22 FW 190 and 18 Ju 87). The planes he flew were La-5 FN & La-7 fighters. In 1949, he finished the Zhukovski Military Aviation Academy. In 1956, he graduated from the High Command´s Academy, after which he was promoted to General.

Great history lesson! Great fit for me b/c I *love* the LA-7 too...:-P

trueshotcaller

01-12-2010, 05:24 AM

Personally, I think Edal's bomber rules are right on point... I think we should give them a try the way he's thought it through before we begin to pressure him about not accepting suggestions just yet... I trust him when he says he's thought it through, and Kozz I think you're taking his rejection of your idea(s) a bit too hard, especially so early into the tourney... let's see how it rolls bro...

edal86

01-12-2010, 05:58 AM

*I ask for your opinion on everything, this helps me to consider or keep alternatives in mind.

* I wont change my rules, though, because I would like to at least wait until this first week to really make any changes. (if I see great problems)

* In the case of philabong2 accedental ramming, I wont suspend him (read the rules: player will be demoted or suspended, depending on what the Bomber Player is reporting). The Bomber player may not even report this at all, get it?

* I know I am part of the UK team, you suggest that I only manage the tournament and not participate? If you cant trust be by now then you never will. You think I made the rules after the teams were chosen? I am sorry to hear this if you think that way.

***** To all Participants, I will post first briefings in 1 hour after this message *****

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx

01-12-2010, 06:14 AM

in all fairness, i have to say that i suck

bad speed judjment + terrible shooting skills = getting blinded by ur own tracers and running into whatever's right infront of u...

^.^ lol

edal86

01-12-2010, 06:18 AM

you could not copy paste your signature so it can be animated?

edal86

01-12-2010, 07:00 AM

ok, so I will take as a decision that team USSR wants to use LA's and spend 2500 resources, Briefings will be ready soon :D

I added a bonus mission that is why It will take a little longer

trueshotcaller

01-12-2010, 07:14 AM

you could not copy paste your signature so it can be animated?

Hmmm... lemme try again... EDIT - ok got it!

edal86

01-12-2010, 07:42 AM

Hmmm... lemme try again... EDIT - ok got it!

great!!

I am going to log in on the PS3, If I can get a 2vs2 game we can start the "Air Superiority" mission.

Spitfire23

01-12-2010, 01:32 PM

Anyone from 617 Sqaudron gonna be on tonight ? Id id like to practice circling at altitude above the furball while the "aces" in my squadron rack up the kills. :p

Im Pacific Time Zone.

I should be on tonight if you want to get a little practice in.

Did you get the message containing the signature for our flight? if not here it is

http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt184/edal86/squadrons/617.gif

.

STINGERSIX78

01-12-2010, 02:25 PM

great!!

I am going to log in on the PS3, If I can get a 2vs2 game we can start the "Air Superiority" mission.

ahhh, so close. almost we have the 1. fight with varcus, me, dinho and winny ...

MACADEMIC

01-12-2010, 04:35 PM

Hi Edal, Hi Everybody,

Here's the German translation, I hope it's useful to some (it was for me since it required careful reading ;) ).

Couldn't send it to you Edal due to PM limits, but perhaps you'll take it from here and tune it as you did with the French ones. Otherwise I can send you a text file via email, just PM me with an address in this case.

Cheers and Good luck for the Tournament to Everybody!

MACADEMIC

"Kampf um Europa" - Regeln

1.1 - Die Grundlagen
*Verhalte dich immer respektvoll und fliege ehrenhaft.
*Vergewissere dich dass du weisst wie man ein Bildschirmfoto auf PS3 macht.
*Ich empfehle, alle "Kampf um Europa" Teilnehmer in deine Freunde Liste aufzunehmen
*Besuche diesen Thread häufig für Neuerungen. Die ersten drei Nachrichten werden als Wandtafeln verwendet.
* Kenne deinen Rang und verstehe seine Bedeutung.
* Headsets werden empfohlen.

1.2 - Sieg und Spielarten
* 2 teams, Grossbritannien gegen die Sowjetunion
* Das Team, das alle Territiorien kontrolliert, siegt (Grossbritannien, Die Ardennen, Italien, Deutschland, UdSSR). - Das Verringern des gegnerischen Nachschubs (Piloten) kann für einen Sieg entscheidend sein.
* Es gibt 4 Spielarten: Air Superiority (Lufthoheit), Strategic Bombing (Strategisches Bombardment), Territory Capture (Gebietsgewinn) und VIP Escort (Begleitschutz).

1.3 - Squadrons/Flight Groups (Staffeln/Fliegergruppen)
* jede dieser besteht aus 4 Spielern (2 Erfahrenen und 2 Anfängern)
* jeder Staffel/Fliegergruppe werden gesamt 200 Abschüsse/Abstürze (Verluste)zugestanden
* 200 Verluste = (gesamte Staffel/Fliegergruppe vernichtet)
* jedesmal wenn eine Staffel/Fliegergruppe 200 Verluste erleidet, muss sie mit dem niedrigsten Rang von Neuem beginnen, ausser ein Mitglied der Staffel/Fliegergruppe hat den Rang eines Wing Commander (Flügelkommandant) oder höher erreicht (siehe den Regelabschnitt zu Rängen dazu).

1.4 - Ränge und deren Zweck
Flugpersonal
* Aviation Cadet (Fliegerkadett): (unterste Stufe) Jedes mal wenn ein Spieler bei einer Mission fällt, kehrt er als Fliegerkadett wieder zum Spiel zurück
* Corporal (Korporal): (5 bestätigte Abschüsse [Siege] oder drei Einsätze) Gratulation, jetzt bist du ein Ass.
* Feldwebel: (8 bestätigte Abschüsse oder 6 Einsätze)
* Flight Sergeant (Oberfeldwebel): (10 bestätigte Abschüsse oder 8 Einsätze) Dieser Rang berechtigt (ausschliesslich) die Annahme von Lufthoheitsspielen vom Gegner oder die Austragung eines solchen (wenn man Teil des angreifenden Teams ist).

Offiziere
*Flight Officer (Fliegeroffizier): (15 bestätigte Abschüsse oder 10 Einsätze) Gratulation jetzt bist du ein Offizier. Dieser Rang berechtigt (ausschliesslich) die Annahme von Strategischen Bombardementspielen vom Gegner oder die Austragung.
*Flight Lieutenant (Fliegerleutnant): (20 bestätigte Abschüsse oder 13 Einsätze) Berechtigt zur Annahme (ausschliesslich) von Gebietsgewinnspielen vom Gegner oder die Austragung (wenn man Teil des angreifenden Teams ist).
* Squadron Leader (Staffelführer): (25 bestätigte Abschüsse oder 15 Einsätze) Berechtigt die Annahme von Spielen jeder der drei Spielarten Lufthoheit, Strategisches Bombardement und Gebietsgewinn vom Gegner oder deren Austragung (wenn man Teil des angreifenden Teams ist).

Die Grossen Drei (Nur jeweils ein Teammitglied kann einen dieser Ränge bekleiden)
*Wing Commander (Flügelkommandant): (30 bestätigte Abschüsse/18 Einsätze oder verzweifelte Zeiten erfordern deinen Einsatz) Berechtigt dich jedes Mitglied deiner Staffel zum Flight Officer zu befördern (1 mal pro Wiederbelebung). Du bist nun für die Verteidigung oder Planung von Lufthoheitsmissionen zuständig. Wenn du erfolgreich bist bekommst du eine Medaille. (Siehe die Beschreibung von Lufthoheitsspielen für weitere Informationen).
*Group Captain (Gruppenkommandant): (Muss eine Medaille als Wing Commander haben oder verzweifelte Zeiten erfordern deinen Einsatz) Du bist berechtigt jedes Mitlgied deiner Staffel zum Flight Lieutenant zu befördern (einmal pro Wiederbelebung). Du bist nun verantwortlich für die Verteidigung gegen oder die Planung für Strategische Bombardementseinsätze. Wenn du erfolgreich bist erhältst du eine Medaille (Siehe die Beschreibung von Strategischen Bombardementmissionen für weitere Informationen).
*Air Commodore (Kommodore zur Luft): (Muss eine Medaille als Wing Commander und Group Captain halten oder verzweifelte Zeiten erfordern deinen Einsatz) Du bist berechtigt jedes Mitglied deiner Staffel zum Squadron Leader (1 mal pro Wiederbelebung) zu befördern. Du bist nun für die Verteidigung gegen oder Planung von Gebietsgewinnmissionen verantwortlich. Weiters, wenn du der Commanding Officer bist (Kommandierender Offizier), d.h. den höchsten Rang in deinem Team bekleidest, bist du für die Auswahl der Flugzeugoptionen deines Teams für die Saison (Woche) verantwortlich. Wenn du mit deiner Mission erfolgreich bist bekommst du eine Medaille (Siehe die Beschreibung von Gebietsgewinnmissionen für weitere Informationen).

Der VIP (Dieser Rang ist ein Ehrenrang und kann zeitweilig unbesetzt sein)
*Marshal of the Royal Air Force (Feldmarschall der Royal Air Force): Das ist der höchste Rang für ein Mitglied des Grossbritannien Teams. Die einzige Möglichkeit diesen Rang zu bekleiden ist es alle drei oben beschriebenen Medaillen zu besitzen. Du bist für die Auswahl der Flugzeugoptionen deines Teams für die Saison verantwortlich. Dieser Rang schaltet auch die VIP Escort (Begleitsschutz) Mission frei, wenn du diese Mission erfolgreich beendest trittst du in die Ruhmeshalle ein und dein Team erhält einen Extra Bonus (Siehe Begleitschutzmission für weitere Informationen).
*Generalissimus of the Soviet Union (Generalissimus der Sowjetunion): Das ist der höchste Rang für ein Mitglied des Teams Sowjetunion. Die genau gleichen Bestimmungen wie oben für den Marshal of the Royal Air Force gelten.

Spielverlauf

2.1 - Resourcen und Mannschaftsstärke
* Resourcen: Jedes Territorium unter Kontrolle versorgt ein Team mit wöchentlichen Resourcen (Nachschub)
- Grossbritannien (1500), UdSSR (1500), Deutschland (1500), Ardennen (1000), Italien (1000)
Was beinflusst Resourcen?
- Die Resourcen, die ein Territorium zur Verfügung stellt wird durch die Zerstörung von Bodenzielen während eines Stragetischen Bombardementspiels beeinflusst. (Jedes zerstörte Bodenziel verringert die wöchtlichen Ressourcen eines Territioriums um -50).
- Zerstörte Bodenziele regenerieren sich nach einem halben Jahr (2 Wochen) und immer wenn ein Territoriom den Besitzer wechselt.
Wozu gibt es Resourcen?
- Ein Team benötigt 300 Resourcen pro unkontrolliertem Territorium (Pufferzone) um ein nicht an das eigene Territorium grenzendes Territorium anzugreifen. Zum Beispiel, wenn die UdSSR keine Kontrolle über Deutschland hat und die Ardennen angreifen will dann braucht sie 300 Resourcen. Wenn die UdSSR weder Deutschland noch die Ardennen besitzen und Grossbritannien angreifen wollen, braucht sie 600 Resourcen.
- Teams können mit Resourcen Flugzeuge "kaufen". Die erworbenen Flugzeuge können für eine Saison verwendet werden (1 Woche).

EDAL PLEASE INSERT HANGAR LIST HERE

* I-153 kann nur von Spielern in den Rängen von Flugpersonal geflogen werden (also nicht von Offizieren)
** Ein Team kann nur Flugzeuge fliegen, die in einem der Territorien die es hält erzeugt werden
*** Nur Bomber dürfen Auftanken und Remunitionieren (siehe 'Was beeinflusst Mannschaftsstärke?" für weitere Infos)

Mannschaftsstärke (Piloten): Jedes Territorium unter Kontrolle stellt jede Saison (Woche) neue Rekruten bereit.
- Grossbritannien (300), UdSSR (300), Deutschland (100), Ardennen (100), Italien (100)

Was beeinflusst Mannschaftsstärke?
- Jeder Absturz/Abschuss reduziert eine Einheit an Mannschaftsstärke eines Teams und beeinflusst die Gesamtzahl der Abstürze/Abschüsse eines Squadrons.
- Jeder Absturz/Abschuss eines Bombers zählt als 5 Abstürze/Abschüsse für das Team und für die Gesamtzahl der Abstürze/Abschüsse des Squadrons eines Spielers.
- Wenn ein Bomber alle seine Bomben abwirft und zu seiner Seite der Karte zurückkehrt und landet (er muss dazu nicht auf einem Flugfeld landen), kann er ohne Verlust abspringen und wiederbelebt werden, d.h. kann er ohne Verlust Auftanken und Remunitionieren. Ich brauche dazu aber EXAKT das: ein Bildschirmfoto des gelandeten Bombers mit der geöffneten Karte. Geschwindigkeit und Anzahl der Bomber müssen 0 (Null) sein. (Im Fall das eine Karte über einer Küste ist (Grossbritannien, Sizilien Küste), kann der Bomber überall landen)
**Wer bei einem Bildschirmfoto mogelt wird mit 2 Wochen Suspendierung vom Turnier bestraft
Wozu gibt es Mannschaftsstärke (Piloten)?
- Die zur Verfügung stehende Mannschaftsstärke wird automatisch über drei Prozentstärken verteilt (Ein Befehl für ein Gebietsgewinnspiel muss mindestens 50% der verteilten Mannschaftsstärke zuteilen, die anderen zwei Spielarten (Befehle zu Lufthoheits- und Strategisches Bombardementsspielen) jeweils 25% der verfügbaren Mannschaftsstärke). Vor der Erteilung eines Befehls können Wing Commander oder Group Captain eine höhere Prozentstärke für die Verteilung beantragen. In jedem Fall trifft aber der Commanding Officer (Kommandierender Offizier) diese Entscheidung (Air Commodore oder VIP). Weiters kann der Commanding Officer entscheiden nicht alle seine Mannschaftsstärken pro Saison (Woche) in den Kampf zu schicken (aber zumindest 75% der verfügbaren Mannschaftsstärken).
**Mach dir keine Sorgen wegen den Berechnungen, ich mach das. Es ist weniger kompliziert als es scheint.

2.2 - Die vier Spielarten (begrenzter Treibstoff/Munition für alle)

* Lufthoheit: (Teamschlacht in Angriffs [Strike] Modus) 5 Sekunden Wiederbelebung
- 10-20 Minuten Matches (siehe den Befehl der Saison (Woche) für umfassende Infos
- Zumindest einer der folgenden Ränge müssen bei jeder Schlacht in jedem Team anwesend sein: Master Aircrew, Squadron Leader, Wing Commander, Group Captain, Air Commodore, oder ein VIP (Ehren-) Rang
- Der Wing Commander des Angreifenden Teams entscheidet über die im anzugreifenden Gebiet zu verwendende Landkarte, die Tageszeit, und möglicherweise über die einzusetzende Mannschaftsstärke.
- Wenn über einem Gebiet keine Lufthoheit besteht kann dein Team nur 75% der im Befehl angegebenen Mannschaftsstärke in das Gebiet entsenden (wird im Befehl berechnet werden).
- nur Kampfflugzeuge (durch einen Kreis auf der Karte dargestellt) dürfen eingesetzt werden. BF110 ist okay.
- Einsatzziele für beide Teams werden im wöchentlichen Briefing erklärt.
- Missionserfolg wird durch Vernichtung der gesamten entsendeten Mannschaftsstärke des Gegners (kumulativ) erreicht.
- Bei Nichterreichung eines wöchentlichen Befehlsziels wird ein Wing Commander zum Squadron Leader degradiert oder gilt als getötet (wenn das Squadron seine 200 Abstürze/Abschüsse erreicht hat).

*Strategisches Bombardement: (normaler Angriffsmodus [Strike]) 15 Sekunden Wiederbelebung
- 20 Minuten Matches (siehe Wochenbefehl für umfassende Infos)
- Mindestens einer der folgenden Ränge muss bei jedem Match und in jedem Team anwesend sein: Master Aircrew, Squadron Leader, Wing Commander, Group Captain, Air Commodore, oder ein VIP Rang.
- Der Group Captain des angreifenden Teams wählt die Landkarte und Tageszeit im angegriffenen Territorium aus, und kann möglicherweise auch die verfügbare Mannschaftsstärke wählen.
- Wenn über einem Gebiet keine Lufthoheit besteht kann dein Team nur 75% der im Befehl angegebenen Mannschaftsstärke in das Gebiet entsenden (wird im Befehl berechnet werden).
- nur 1 Bomber (durch ein Dreieck auf der Karte dargestellt) pro 3 Spieler (nur das angreifende Team darf Bomber verwenden.
- Einsatzziele für beide Teams werden im wöchentlichen Briefing erklärt.
- Durch die Zerstörung von 10 Bodenzielen (kumulativ) oder durch Vernichtung der durch den Gegner entsandten Mannschaftsstärke (kumulativ) wird das Missionsziel für Angreifer erreicht.
- durch die Vernichtung der durch den Gegner entsandten Mannschaftsstärke (kumulativ) wird das Missionsziel für Verteidiger erreicht.
- Wenn keines der Teams das Missionsziel erreicht bleibt ihnen nur der entstandene Schaden (Resourcen/Mannschaftsstärke).
- Bei Nichterreichung des wöchentlichen Befehlsziels wird der Group Captain zum Squadron Leader degradiert oder gilt als getötet (wenn das Squadron seine 200 Abstürze/Abschüsse erreicht hat).

* Gebietsgewinn (CTA, 15 Sekunden Wiederbelebung)
- 20 Minuten Matches (siehe Wochenbefehl für umfassende Informationen)
- Zumindest einer der folgenden Ränge müssen bei jedem Match in jedem Team anwesend sein: Flight Lieutenant, Squadron Leader, Wing Commander, Group Captain, Air Commodore, VIP Rank.
- Der Air Commodore des angreifenden Teams wird über die Karte und Tageszeit im angegriffenen Gebiet bestimmen, und möglicherweise über die einzusetzenden Flugzeuge.
- Nur Kampfflugzeuge (durch einen Kreis auf der Karte dargestellt) dürfen eingesetzt werden. BF110 ist okay.
- Kamikaze ist nicht erlaubt und wird bestraft (Degradierung/Suspendierung). Weiters ist das Verbleiben auf einem Flugfeld nach Erorberung nicht gestattet, es muss gestartet werden (gleiche Bestrafung wie für Kamikaze).
- Einsatzziele für beide Teams werden im wöchentlichen Briefing erklärt.
- Wenn über einem Gebiet keine Lufthoheit besteht kann dein Team nur 75% der im Befehl angegebenen Mannschaftsstärke in das Gebiet entsenden (wird im Befehl berechnet werden).
- Wenn das zu erobernde Gebiet vorher erfolgreich bombardiert wurde (10 zerstörte Bodenziele während Stragetischen Bombardents auf dem gleichen Territorium) dann muss der Angreifer nur 4 Matches gewinnen (andernfalls 8) um das Missionsziel zu erreichen. Ein angreifendes Team kann das Missionsziel auch durch Vernichtung der gesamten entsandten Mannschaftsstärke des Gegners erreichen.
- Das Team des Verteidigers muss die gesamte entsandte gegnerische Mannschaftsstärke vernichten oder 6 Matches (im Laufe der Woche) gewinnen.
- Der Wochenbefehl wird alle Ziele und Vorgaben für den Erfolg beider Teams erklären.
- Wenn ein Team das Ziel des Wochenbefehls verfehlt wird ihr Air Commodore zum Squadron Leader degradiert oder wiederbelebt (bei Erreichung der 200 Abstürze/Abschüsse seines Squadrons).

* VIP Escort: Bomberbegleitung in Angriffs (Strike) Modus
- Einzelnes 30 Minuten Match (siehe Wochenbefehl für volle Infos)
- Der neuernannte VIP Rang (Ehrenrang) muss teilnehmen (er sucht auch die Karte aus)
- Zumindest ein Spieler der verteidigenden Teams muss folgenden Rang haben: Wing Commander, Group Captain, Air Commodore, oder VIP Rang
- Eine Mindestanzahl von 9 Spielern muss teilnehmen (5 Angreifer (Team mit Bomber) gegen 4 Verteidiger)
- Ein Bonus Befehl wird die Ziele für beide Teams festlegen
- Nur in dieser Woche erworbene Kampfflugzeuge und Bomber dürfen teilnehmen (Arado Jet Bomber ist okay).
- Angreifer müssen den Bomber (Spieler im VIP Rang) 2 mal zu einem vorgegebenen Ziel begleiten um zu gewinnen
- Verteidiger müssen den VIP (den Bomber) 3 mal zerstören um zu gewinnen (das Rammen eines Bombers wird bestraft).
- VIP Spieler muss ein Bildschirmfoto der Karte machen um zu beweisen dass der VIP sein Ziel erreicht hat, höchstrangiger Offizier des Verteidigerteams muss ein Bildschirmfoto der Spielstatistiken machen sobald der VIP Spieler drei mal abgeschossen wurde / abgestürzt ist.
- alle Teilnehmer des Siegerteams werden um einen Rang befördert
- Wenn das Team des VIP Escort sein Missionsziel erreicht, nimmt es automatisch das Territorium ein, auf dem gespielt wurde. Wenn die Mission misslingt gilt der VIP Spieler als getötet.

2.3 - Befehle (Briefings)
- 3 Befehle pro Saison (Woche) werden ausgegeben. Sie enthalten alle Vorgaben für beide Teams.
- Die meisten Einstellungen werden von den Grossen 3 Offiziersrängen bestimmt. Die Wetter und Winterkarten werden durch die aktuelle Saison bestimmt. (1 Woche = 1 Saison, 4 Wochen = 1 Jahr)
- Frühling (Regen): "Zeit: Tag wird empfohlen", Sommer (klar), Herbst (Gut), Winter (Hazy)
- Jedes Team wird jede zweite Woche bei 2/3 der Missionen Angreifer und 1/3 Verteidiger sein
- Spielerstatistiken werden 2-3 mal pro Woche aktualisiert
- Posting #2 dieses Threads (beinhaltet Team Info und Karte von Europa) wird eine Ampel beinhalten welche anzeigt wann die erneuerten Wing Commander, Group Captain und Air Commodore (VIP Spieler falls es einen gibt) ihre Angriffspläne einsenden können (sendet sie mir via PSN oder Privatnachricht). (Grün = Einsenden, Gelb = macht euch fertig und bereit zum Einsenden, Rot = Missionen sind im Gang).
- Montage sind Planungstage, bitte WISST das, ich werde verspätete Eingaben nicht tolerieren!
* Das Team welches die Einstellungen für 2/3 der Missionen in der jeweiligen Saison (Woche) auswählt muss all ihre Pläne bis 1800 Pazifik Zeit (Montag) einsenden. Diese Pläne werden auf dem dritten Posting dieses Thread (Die Postings welche die Befehle enthält) damit der Gegner, welcher in 2/3 der Missionen verteidigen muss, sich vorbereiten kann.
* Anschliessend muss das Team, das die Einstellungen von nur 1/3 der aktuellen Saison auswählen kann, alle seine Pläne bis 2359 Pazifik Zeit (Montag) einsenden.
- An alle Spieler: wenn ihr einer der Grossen Drei Offiziere seid und ihr wisst dass ihr die Geschicke eures Teams nicht lenken könnt oder wollt, dann lasst es bitte mich oder Kozzmo (UdSSR team) wissen, damit wir für euch entscheiden können.

* BEISPIEL eines Plans von einem Team das 2/3 der Einstellungen bestimmt:

Team UdSSR. Versenden nur 90% verfügbarer Mannschaftsstärke für die Schlacht. Kaufen "Hangar C".
- Lufthoheit über Italien, Karte Sizilien Küste, Zeit: Morgen, Mannschaftsstärke:30%
- Strategisches Bombardement über den Ardennen, Karte Ardennen, Zeit: Tag, Mannschaftsstärke 20%
- Gebietsgewinn, Status: Verteidigung, verbleibende Mannschaftsstärke (50% entsprechend dem Minimum für Gebietsgewinn)

* BEISPIEL eines Plans von einem Team das 1/3 der Einstellungen bestimmt:

Team Grossbritannien. Versende 100% der verfügbaren Mannschaftsstärke für die Schlacht. Kaufen "Hangar B".
- Verteidigen Lufthoheit über Italien mit 25% Mannschaftsstärke
- Verteidigen Strategisches Bombardement über den Ardennen mit 20% Mannschaftsstärke
- Gebietsgewinn über Deutschland, Karte Berlin, Zeit Abend, Mannschaftsstärke 55%

2.4 - Weitere und wichtige Informationen

- Ich brauche für jedes Match zwei Bildschirmfotos (1 vor dem Match mit jedem Spieler ausser dem Gastgeber mit dem grünen 'ready' check. Das 2. Bildschirmfoto sollte das Matchresultat sein. Ich empfehle dass ein Spieler jedes Teams vor und nach dem Spiel ein Bildschirmfoto macht
- Beim Versenden der Bildschirmfotos an mich markiert sie bitte in der Reihenfolge 1 und 2 und um welchen Befehl es sich handelt. Beispiel eines Nachrichtentitels, verwende "B" (für Befehl): B UdSSR (001) 1st
- Ihr seid dafür verantwortlich dass ihr die Wertungen für eure Spiele bekommt
- Zeiten können nur wie folgt sein: Morgen, Tag und Abend (keine Nacht)

2.5 - Wie man befördert und degradiert werden kann
- ein Kampfflugzeug im Flug zu rammen ist okay. Bomber zu rammen wird bestraft.
- Kampfflugzeuge können Bomben in jedem der 3 Spielarten verwenden. Nur Bomber können auftanken und remunitionieren
- Kamikazes werden bestraft (kein Abstürzen in gelandete Gegner, kein Abstürzen in Bodenziele)
- Kein Aufpassen auf Flugfelder am Boden (nach Landung und Eroberung muss gestartet werden).
- Das denke ich ist alles, ach ja "Spione und Verräter werden erschossen" lol. HABT SPASS!!

Habt ihr Fragen oder Zweifel? Dann Stellt Sie Bitte!

STINGERSIX78

01-12-2010, 05:10 PM

u are my HERO ^^

InfiniteStates

01-12-2010, 05:38 PM

Holy crap - extremely well played to the translator guys! I can read the English one, but I type for a living and even I find the prospect of typing that amount of text daunting. Great effort fellas - well above and beyond the call of duty :)

STINGERSIX78

01-12-2010, 06:03 PM

where are our enemies ?

STINGERSIX78

01-12-2010, 09:44 PM

Hey, uk-guys !! Move your ass in the sky !!!

For now, the sky is red !! ^^

edal86

01-12-2010, 10:31 PM

Macademic,
Thank you very much!!

I will be on in a bit :D
(you guys better be playing like the briefing reads.)

STINGERSIX78

01-12-2010, 10:33 PM

dont worry. we will accept their surrender... ^^

Zatoichi_Sanjuro

01-12-2010, 10:33 PM

Next to no opposition turned up.

We need fixed times for matches.

STINGERSIX78

01-12-2010, 10:44 PM

maybe ...
but the real issue are the different time-zones .
here 1.00 am
u.s. 7.00pm

P-51

01-12-2010, 10:56 PM

maybe ...
but the real issue are the different time-zones .
here 1.00 am
u.s. 7.00pm

It's just gone midnight.. I can't play at midnight lol!

STINGERSIX78

01-12-2010, 10:59 PM

werwolf ? ^^

edal86

01-12-2010, 11:21 PM

I will on in a bit. im loading the German Rules

It is easier to get games this way, (play when you can)

If we schedule matches, some wont be able to play, and others wont know.

Dont worry its the first day: Yesterday we had more UK guys than USSR.

STINGERSIX78

01-12-2010, 11:25 PM

come to il2. lets fight the 1. battle.

edal86

01-12-2010, 11:41 PM

come to il2. lets fight the 1. battle.

I missed you by 1 minute :( log in again

jimhaze4evr

01-13-2010, 12:06 AM

awesome cant wait to play

edal86

01-13-2010, 01:02 AM

I saw you guys played my B-day Bonus Mission :)

All you need to know to play is on this Briefing!!
*** remember (take 2 screenshots of every match, 1. before a match when all aircraft are selected. 2. After match (match results)
http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt184/edal86/brief.gif

kozzm0

01-13-2010, 01:59 AM

First two matches of operation bodenplatte are in your PSN inbox edal.

Attention USSR team:

please post before 11:59pm (Monday, January 11. Pacific Time) What Hangar option you would like. You guys got 2500 resources to spend and you can afford all Hangar Options except for Hangar E.

** If an Hangar is not selected, then, for this occasion only, I will choose Hangar D for you which includes all planes except Jets. (both La's are included)

*** If kozzmo does not reply to this message I will use any other USSR team member's decision.

(I will be here at 12:00am pacific time (tuesday) to post this week's briefing's.)

this type of announcement would be more noticeable on the first page. There was not much time between it and the briefing being posted, I was on the site only once during that time, and it was sandwiched between your other posts.

My issues with rules have nothing to do with trust. Like it or not, this is essentially like a sports league. When what is fair is decided arbitrarily by one party, it leads to unexpected conflicts of interest. If all the players aren't involved in shaping the rules, the entire sport suffers.
Since few members of either team have really studied the rules, I will continue to go out of my way to protect my team's best interests.

Here's something unforeseen: since you get the screenshots, you know the objectives progress of both sides before we do. That affects planning. Wouldn't hurt for us to get copies of them.

To my team, half of you were online and ready to fight earlier today, unfortunately not all of you got the chance. Those of you who didn't, I'll make sure you get into the rotation. Only UK's top aces showed during peak hours. If it were a real war, it would already be over. Keep it up.

irrelevant

01-13-2010, 04:44 AM

Only UK's top aces showed during peak hours. If it were a real war, it would already be over. Keep it up.

this made me LOL.

edal86

01-13-2010, 04:58 AM

it is weird because when Im online there are 4 to 5 UK guys and only 1 or 2 USSR guys. Hope to be online when it is the other way around.

** Anyone up for a match, 2 vs 2 at least

*** Kozmo, sorry about short notice, next time I will send you a private message. I dont think it will happen again, this time was because first week, no officers. The following weeks will be more stuck to the schedule and rules.

STINGERSIX78

01-13-2010, 06:50 AM

I missed you by 1 minute :( log in again

and now, i missed u by 20min... damn.

edal86

01-13-2010, 06:52 AM

edal86

01-13-2010, 09:07 AM

Spitfire23

01-13-2010, 09:25 AM

Please post when ever you guys are online on the PSN. This, way other players visiting can this forum can know and join. In my case, I can either connect my computer or my PS3 to internet access. Most of the time I spend here now and I check this thread often. So If I read a post I will check on my PS3 ASAP.

Same goes for me really, i check up on this site more than i would PSN so if anything is going on the best way to notify me is through this site

STINGERSIX78

01-13-2010, 12:30 PM

a seperate thread ?

P-51

01-13-2010, 04:09 PM

I always use my ps3 browser so ether way is good for me!

kozzm0

01-13-2010, 04:25 PM

The best way to keep track of how you and your flight are doing is to submit a design of all the members of your group. Winny has offered to help as long as you guys post a plane and a badge for your design (name of squadron also).

Otherwise, you will have to wait until the end of the week's briefings to see an updated list on the post for teams.

I mean about progress toward objectives, not flight status. If the team has 3 cta wins or 150 team battle kills but doesn't know it, they may not bother to play more cta matches or finish the air superiority job.

I've instructed my team to send me all screenshots anyhow, win or lose. But they don't always do it or understand what I mean. Whereas you've got all the screenshots for all matches that count, and know the objectives progress of both sides.

Would it really hurt for us to have access to the shots? Honestly.

<> if you look at the time intervals between posts, the chance of setting up a 3v3 match on this thread is pretty slim.

the vast majority of team VVS is on when people are normally awake on both sides of the Atlantic. That means around 5 to 9pm gmt.

InfiniteStates

01-13-2010, 05:15 PM

Try and get through to everyone that you can send a PSN message to multiple people at the same time. You just have to go to "create message" instead of pressing triangle on one particular person's name. Then when they send them to Edal they can send them to you too...?

jimhaze4evr

01-13-2010, 07:40 PM

i saw everyone playing today, am i able to play with them? i sent edal a friend request cause i want to join.

P-51

01-13-2010, 07:58 PM

i saw everyone playing today, am i able to play with them? i sent edal a friend request cause i want to join.

Welcome! Which team?

jimhaze4evr

01-13-2010, 08:36 PM

i think you just killed me like 5 times :(

P-51

01-13-2010, 08:42 PM

i think you just killed me like 5 times :(

Sorry bout that but I was the best fighter on my team, I had to do it for the motherland!
Good game though! :D But I'm not impressed with my kill death ratio.

Also edal I'd like to report a kamikazi. Stry_amg flew into me while I was capturing a base. Didn't want to be the first to report - let alone report at all.

Steyr_amr

01-13-2010, 08:52 PM

Sorry bout that but I was the best fighter on my team, I had to do it for the motherland!
Good game though! :D But I'm not impressed with my kill death ratio.

Also edal I'd like to report a kamikazi. Stry_amg flew into me while I was capturing a base. Didn't want to be the first to report - let alone report at all.

Is Stry_amg me?

EDIT: Sorry, also a question: Are any of the IL2 series allowed for Capture the Airfield matches? They aren't listed in the "Available aircraft" section on the first page for this gametype.

jimhaze4evr

01-13-2010, 09:46 PM

thos il2's were flying tanks

STINGERSIX78

01-13-2010, 09:58 PM

not allowed...

Spitfire23

01-13-2010, 11:26 PM

Yeah, no Il-2's were allowed in the CTA match, but we can just pawn that off as a "Fun" match instead of tourny

STINGERSIX78

01-13-2010, 11:31 PM

i had enough *F.U.N.* tonight. really disappointing, to see the impacts in the enemies with no resulting death.

jimhaze4evr

01-13-2010, 11:34 PM

i feel better after i got 14 comfirmed kills in a game tonight. i feels accomplished.

Spitfire23

01-13-2010, 11:41 PM

i had enough *F.U.N.* tonight. really disappointing, to see the impacts in the enemies with no resulting death.

yea, i had that afew times too, dont let it get you down though buddy ;)

edal86

01-14-2010, 12:05 AM

* correct, il2 series is not allowed in CTA or Air Superirity

* reaper, if steyr_amr did crash into you he will be demoted (1 rank), however, the match was official right (no il2s).

* Kozzmo, I was planning on updating the mission briefing objective status when a team was half way to completing it. But yes, I see fairness in what you ask (access to the screeshots) I will post it for next week's briefings

- I have not checked today, but as of yesterday, this is what I had (air superiority) 2 matches of 2vs2 and 1 match of 3vs2. score UK= 28 deaths, USSR= 29 deaths

edal86

01-14-2010, 12:06 AM

i feel better after i got 14 comfirmed kills in a game tonight. i feels accomplished.

you are now on the UK team, I have sent you an invitation to access our private RAF room (check your inbox). You are now in the Flight with steyr_amr and whiterhino.

STINGERSIX78

01-14-2010, 12:08 AM

tonight we loose 63-47 .... cry ....
screenshots was send to u.

Spitfire23

01-14-2010, 12:09 AM

* correct, il2 series is not allowed in CTA or Air Superirity

* reaper, if steyr_amr did crash into you he will be demoted (1 rank), however, the match was official right (no il2s).

2 Il-2's were in use, so no it wasn't official

STINGERSIX78

01-14-2010, 12:10 AM

i will never open a server again...

edal86

01-14-2010, 12:14 AM

2 Il-2's were in use, so no it wasn't official

ok, thanks.

* I know there are no officers yet, but those who know the rules can you please let other players know when they are not using the proper aircraft? please.

* I will check the results and post them by today (later today)

* also, dont forget, screenshot before match and screenshot after (so I can verify that the aircraft were selected properly

kozzm0

01-14-2010, 04:55 AM

I guess the Italians thought being liberated by il-2's was too easy, and insisted we start the liberation with la-5's. Liberation in progress.

edal86

01-14-2010, 05:01 AM

I guess the Italians thought being liberated by il-2's was too easy, and insisted we start the liberation with la-5's. Liberation in progress.

lol, I just sent you the mission status report.

hey kozzmo,
Why dont we settle this war like in the very, very old days. You vs Me, 1vs1. Who ever is loser goes home. How many more soviet planes do you wish to see in flames?? lol, just kidding my friend, hopefully, your team is enjoying this tournament as much as our team is. See you in Stalingrad :)

another thing,
I have read that sometimes there are 8 russians and no RAF players, why dont you use that opportunity to practice, fly together, develop tactics? set a dogfight match so you can all communicate with eachother. This goes to the UK team as well, just a tip.

edal86

01-14-2010, 07:29 AM

http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt184/edal86/squadrons/muskets.gif

steyr_amr and jimhaze, you guys can use this to keep track of your deaths and ranks for now at least. sorry I did minor editing mainly copy paste, if you want a better design please ask winny :)

Wissam24

01-14-2010, 01:35 PM

I'm very sorry guys, btu I won't be able to play. When I signed up, I was kind of assuming that I would have had my PS3 back with em at uni. As it turns out my parents are ******* bastards who think they should still get involved in my life even though I'm NINETEEN FOR GODSSAKE!! As such, I don't have access to it, nor to my game. Ugh. Sorry about this

haitch40

01-14-2010, 02:57 PM

i realy want to have a match but none r starting and no1 in tourny is online when im online maybe at the weekend

P-51

01-14-2010, 03:32 PM

Is Stry_amg me?

EDIT: Sorry, also a question: Are any of the IL2 series allowed for Capture the Airfield matches? They aren't listed in the "Available aircraft" section on the first page for this gametype.

Yeh, sorry writinng from memory.. I will let it go this time. Because I'm nice!

Steyr_amr

01-14-2010, 03:35 PM

Yeh, sorry writinng from memory.. I will let it go this time. Because I'm nice!

Haha, just for my own reference though, were you the Lavochkin sitting on the runway I tried to strafe at the very beginning? I know I hit the ground but didn't think that aircraft got caught up in the blast.

P-51

01-14-2010, 03:44 PM

DocGonzo101

01-14-2010, 03:49 PM

I'd like to join, and if possible on the team with jimhaze4evr

PSN ID - DocGonzo

Spitfire23

01-14-2010, 03:50 PM

Yup I was the only legal fighter in the game lol.
Will you be on tonight for a replay?

Hey i was legal in my beloved Spitfire ;)

I will be on tonight buddy so watch your six :grin:

Steyr_amr

01-14-2010, 03:52 PM

Yup I was the only legal fighter in the game lol.
Will you be on tonight for a replay?

More than likely, and I apologise profusely for the incident discussed, I don't even remember how I managed to hit the ground because I wasn't in too steep a dive.

P-51

01-14-2010, 04:02 PM

More than likely, and I apologise profusely for the incident discussed, I don't even remember how I managed to hit the ground because I wasn't in too steep a dive.
Ok
You seemed to be very quick though?
Cool I'll be on so I will blow you out the sky :D

edal86

01-14-2010, 07:05 PM

can you guys post when ever you are online tonight??? I would like to join the matches.

edal86

01-14-2010, 07:07 PM

I'd like to join, and if possible on the team with jimhaze4evr

PSN ID - DocGonzo

dont know if being on the same team as jimhaze will be possible, I will have to contact the opposing team's organizer. There is a possibility now that wissam24 from team UK has officially dropped out from the tournament. I will let you know ASAP, in the mean time I will put you on the waiting list.

edal86

01-14-2010, 07:15 PM

Haha, just for my own reference though, were you the Lavochkin sitting on the runway I tried to strafe at the very beginning? I know I hit the ground but didn't think that aircraft got caught up in the blast.

hey, click "quote" on my post where you see the animated image for your squadron signature and copy the [IMG] code there, then paste it on your "edit Signature" option. This way you will have the animated version of the signature instead of the still one

edal86

01-14-2010, 10:58 PM

We were defeated :(

good games USSR

STINGERSIX78

01-14-2010, 11:56 PM

http://www.fagotten.org/grifter/images/cccp.png

STINGERSIX78

01-15-2010, 12:01 AM

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/2856169/CCCP+_piccolo.jpg