Hurricane Spin Recovery

[icetbag]

I seem to be having difficulty recovering the Hurricane from a stall induced spin on realistic MP servers, not sure if Im doing it wrong, or doing it right but too retarded to pull it off.

If your in a nose down spin should you push the stick forward and turn into the spin whilst applying opposite rudder until the plane stops spinning and gains speed before pulling out of the dive?

If the plane is in an flat spin and the nose is oscillating up and down, should you (with good timing) push the stick down as the node moves down and pull the stick up as the node moves up...upto the point where you have positioned the plane into a nose dive and turn into the spin and apply opposite rudder?

If those methods are right, then I still cant pull them off.

What am I doing wrong?

Cheers