A Question for my fellow COD lovers

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by Madfish

Adding to what warhound just said and what I believe sounds plausible: honestly, I don't know.

The reason is simple. The old IL2 sprung a few projects which licensed their engine.
We also got some hints towards some sort of massively online game that also involves ground.

I can't tell you if they purely focus on the new sequel or simply on the engine overall. As we heard the coder part is working on CloD which suggests that they are trying to make the engine part run well.

It's still possible that "CloD" will work like IL-2, meaning you get updates but need the sequels. But I can't say for sure.


What I can say for sure is that they need sales. Either the sequel or licensing the engine.



Sorry that the term Beta wasn't that known to you. Maybe it's just so natural to me since I am a bit involved with gaming since a long time. And frankly, I've seen much worse games than CloD which sold A LOT better.

No worries mate, i know what a Beta is but i guess im just confused as to the situation.. i dont read every thread here which would of partly answered some questions...

Some nice replys here and a bit more of an insight for me..

@Wolfrider
Take yer attitude somewhere else and yer insults too

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by Madfish

The focus HAS to be the sequel since CloD isn't selling anymore.

The reason it isn't selling is because they did a Cr*p job on it, not because there isn't a community. The original IL-2 continued to sell even after FORGOTTEN BATTLES came out because it was a GOOD game. CoD is a lousy game that's why it doesn't sell.

And to compound the error and build a sequel on top of the current trainwreck is no way to solve the financial problems the company is having. Yeah they might get a few one off sales to start, but if the problems which plague CoD are present in BoM, then its future isn't going to be any brighter.

It would have cost them a lot less to get down and actually fix the problems in CoD instead of devoting all their time to building a new Sim. Instead they allocated the major portion of their resources to building new aircraft, maps and objects, all of which are going to be operating in the same poorly coded game enviroment.

How stupid do they think the community is? Do they think we will continue to buy half finished games on the promise we will have a different cockpit to sit in, while neglecting to mention yeah, different cockpit, same old issues?

Sorry, don't see this as a viable business plan, and I don't plan to be a subscriber.

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

The reason it isn't selling is because they did a Cr*p job on it, not because there isn't a community. The original IL-2 continued to sell even after FORGOTTEN BATTLES came out because it was a GOOD game. CoD is a lousy game that's why it doesn't sell.

And to compound the error and build a sequel on top of the current trainwreck is no way to solve the financial problems the company is having. Yeah they might get a few one off sales to start, but if the problems which plague CoD are present in BoM, then its future isn't going to be any brighter.

It would have cost them a lot less to get down and actually fix the problems in CoD instead of devoting all their time to building a new Sim. Instead they allocated the major portion of their resources to building new aircraft, maps and objects, all of which are going to be operating in the same poorly coded game enviroment.

How stupid do they think the community is? Do they think we will continue to buy half finished games on the promise we will have a different cockpit to sit in, while neglecting to mention yeah, different cockpit, same old issues?

Sorry, don't see this as a viable business plan, and I don't plan to be a subscriber.

+1

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

How stupid do they think the community is? Do they think we will continue to buy half finished games on the promise we will have a different cockpit to sit in, while neglecting to mention yeah, different cockpit, same old issues?

An outsider reading through the forums would have little choice but to consider that for the most (but not all, are rather....

[JG52Krupi]

The thing you don't seem to be getting is that they are fully aware that if cod doesn't get fixed very few ppl will bother with whatever they produce, we know this they know this the next instalment has to be compatible with Cod so do ppl really think they are taking fixing this game lightly?

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

It would have cost them a lot less to get down and actually fix the problems in CoD instead of devoting all their time to building a new Sim. Instead they allocated the major portion of their resources to building new aircraft, maps and objects, all of which are going to be operating in the same poorly coded game enviroment.

And how do you know this? Because I assume you know what you`re talking about and not out of your a$$?

[Tigertooo]

Originally Posted by BlackSix

We can't find a free programmers with knowledge of aviation in the Russian labor market. This is a very big problem.
Also, we lost a lot of employees from the old team.

that explains it all to me. This seems to me the real reason why there are hundreds of new bugs reported with the new patch.But if the Devs can't cope with the programming stuff, which is understandable, they should be able to tell: "sorry, we can't fix it", and not let the community "hope for the best"
Anyway, thank you B6, this is for me the first realistic update since the sim was sold,proving the sim is realy almost ,imho, dead. Very pitty but thanks again
Sincerely
Tigertooo

[RickRuski]

I know it is frustrating for all of us including the developers, but as others have said this is a "BETA" . I you don't want to test it as such don't download and instal it. Black Six has already said to forum wait for the final release if you aren't happy. The main problem has been that the sim was released before it was really ready and there lies the start of all the complaints the developers are now getting. If we wish to see the final release of CoD in all it's glory we will all have to drink from the big bucket of patience.

[Madfish]

The root of the problem may indeed be the early release. But there are so many outright shitty products on the market that people bought and buy these days - and instead demanding fixes they just buy the next generation product.

Maybe it's just a general generation problem.
While young people can just get over it and continue the older ones have issues with that sometimes. There are so many real life examples... I seriously must wonder how some people can tackle their lifes without going mad if one (out of probably thousands) buggy game is such a big deal for them.



The way I see it, posting about this alone is not only a waste of time but costs more money than the whole game. By spending 10 hours here posting how bad the game is you could've easily made 50€ even by just cleaning toilets.

What the game currently needs is most likely comprehensive bug reports. Without serious and well sturctured bug reports it won't get better. Ever.

Personally I don't have enough time right now for serious bug testing so I'm very thankful to the people who do so and report their findings in a constructive manner! Thanks for that

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Madfish

The way I see it, posting about this alone is not only a waste of time but costs more money than the whole game. By spending 10 hours here posting how bad the game is you could've easily made 50€ even by just cleaning toilets.

Whoa! Madfish this is a lightning of pure genius!

Cheers!