PS3 Joysticks

[caphead]

annoying is what it is! no flightstick for ps3 right now works like it should in this game.

[Graiskye]

I find it laughable that ll these new flightsim junkies are crying about their 50.00 hotas stick not working the way they want it. Ha ha, as a player of flight sims for longer than I care to think about, this is the norm when you pay less than 150.00 fo a decent flightstik.
All the cheap ones, ie anything under 150.00 have the same problems, cheap ass pots that wear out, have 'deadly' dead zones, and are just plain craptastic.
After you all go through 2 or 3 of the cheap ones youll realise I am right, there isnt anything that is much harder on a joystic than trying to dogfight with one. If you want a real experience you have to go PC, and a buy z cougar from thrustmater(299.00) most everything else is pure shite comparatively.
The cheap sticks will work, for a bit, dont get me wrong, but they will break down very quickly, iv had 'premum' logitech stiks last less than a day efore the pots were out of whack, and fighting wit them became unbearable.
If the comapany cares about tthe game, which I doubt, they are just hoping to sell a few billion copies, which they figure probably most of then willk sit on the shelf after the inital buzz wears off, Il2 can forget about their console 'joke' and get back to 'real simming', OR they will take the consolers serious(I hope this happens) and they will get put into play a joystick that can actually handle the rigors of dogfighting and can be hooked to an X box,PS-3. I am not sure if the Cougar for Thrustmaster will work ona PS 3 but if it will, this is the stik to get. The Cougar is damn near indestructible, made of metal, and modeled off a f-16 actual joystick in the cockpit.
Have fun with this stuff, but realize if the joystick is cheap you are getting a cheap joystick, DUH.
-Grais

[Smidlee]

@ Graiskye
If you read carefully you will realize that some have noted that the "cheap" hotas flight stick does not have this dead zones when it's hooked up to the PC. It seems to be how the game or game system reads the stick. So even if you have a thousand dollar flight stick there will still be a dead zone.
I serious doubt a pc stick design to run on a driver will work on a console. So spending a $150 on a flight stick to play IL-2 for the ps3/x360 will probably be as useful as spending $150 on Track IR 5.

[caphead]

Originally Posted by Graiskye

I find it laughable that ll these new flightsim junkies are crying about their 50.00 hotas stick not working the way they want it. Ha ha, as a player of flight sims for longer than I care to think about, this is the norm when you pay less than 150.00 fo a decent flightstik.
All the cheap ones, ie anything under 150.00 have the same problems, cheap ass pots that wear out, have 'deadly' dead zones, and are just plain craptastic.

dude dont give me that, i played this game since the original il2 sturmovik release on pc! and tell me what choices do the ps3 have with flight stick options! sure i used ch products on the pc but do they work on ps3 no! so shut the **** up about your overpriced gear! god i hate people who dont have a frigging clue!

[ppizzi]

This is a truly great effort of a sim on a console - excellent work and props to the devs.

My only issue is the lack of remapping for the ps3 flight sticks....please, please please consider this as an update if any devs are reading. I really can't fully enjoy the experience with this major issue.

Thanks for the great sim!

[fuzzychickens]

Originally Posted by Graiskye

I find it laughable that ll these new flightsim junkies are crying about their 50.00 hotas stick not working the way they want it. Ha ha, as a player of flight sims for longer than I care to think about, this is the norm when you pay less than 150.00 fo a decent flightstik.
All the cheap ones, ie anything under 150.00 have the same problems, cheap ass pots that wear out, have 'deadly' dead zones, and are just plain craptastic.
After you all go through 2 or 3 of the cheap ones youll realise I am right, there isnt anything that is much harder on a joystic than trying to dogfight with one. If you want a real experience you have to go PC, and a buy z cougar from thrustmater(299.00) most everything else is pure shite comparatively.
The cheap sticks will work, for a bit, dont get me wrong, but they will break down very quickly, iv had 'premum' logitech stiks last less than a day efore the pots were out of whack, and fighting wit them became unbearable.
If the comapany cares about tthe game, which I doubt, they are just hoping to sell a few billion copies, which they figure probably most of then willk sit on the shelf after the inital buzz wears off, Il2 can forget about their console 'joke' and get back to 'real simming', OR they will take the consolers serious(I hope this happens) and they will get put into play a joystick that can actually handle the rigors of dogfighting and can be hooked to an X box,PS-3. I am not sure if the Cougar for Thrustmaster will work ona PS 3 but if it will, this is the stik to get. The Cougar is damn near indestructible, made of metal, and modeled off a f-16 actual joystick in the cockpit.
Have fun with this stuff, but realize if the joystick is cheap you are getting a cheap joystick, DUH.
-Grais

I don't reccomend the cougar unless you want to upgrade the pots on that plus the gimbal - which wears out.

The Ch fighterstick, while not metal like the cougar, works out of the box and is more precise - about as precise as my cougar was after dumping 500 in custom upgrades.

[towman]

have you guys heard about the new Saitek X-65?

[trk29]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

In title update (for PS3 only though) there will be deadzone customization.

This is awesome news.

[Dexter]

Originally Posted by trk29

This is awesome news.

+1

Thanks Anton. Looks like the best just got better

[trk29]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

It is simply digital on PS3 and analogue on PC/360.
Nothing we can do.

Oh well thanks for clarifying.


I have sent Saitek a email with my concerns I hope everybody with a ps3 and AV8R 03 will do the same. Here is what I sent them

Hello,
As a forum moderator and owner of IL-2 Sturmovik Birds of Prey, we as ps3 gamers have just found out of a problem with the AV8R 03 for the Playstation 3.
The twist in the stick for rudder is digital whereas the twist of the stick on the AV8R 02 XBox is analog.
What does this mean? When you apply rudder on the AV8R 03 it is either all the way or centered. So there is no fine adjustment when trying to shoot the opponent.
I have talked to the CEO of Gaijin Anton Yudintsev and he said there is nothing he can do. But I feel you could make a change to your stick because every PS3 user on the forum is aggravated that this button is digital and not analog. Since most people have been saying that they are going to be buying the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas instead of this stick. And now we have another option of using pc flight sticks instead of either one of these.
I own this stick and can confirm the twist is not correct. I think if you really want to sell this stick you should make this change. I thank you for your time in reading this. Have a good day.

Tim