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IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

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Old 09-03-2009, 09:22 PM
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Well, even if it didn't use dedicated servers and games were hosted by players, then wouldnt it still need a dedicated server somewhere to do the matchmaking?

Yes if there was match-making but IL2 BoP uses lobbies. You can search for availible hosts just like in Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon or Battlestations etc.

The host creates a match and selects what options they want, game type, map, difficulty etc then when players search for a game that persons server will appear in a list.

I would guess that the message people are receiving is 'No servers found' which is the standard message you get if no one is hosting at that moment. Considering hardly anyone yet has this game it is no suprise people are struggling to find servers. As more people buy the game then the list will populate with servers. There are people on this forum who have played MP today so I know we are not waiting on servers to be put up, the game is P2P anyway.

This game is 8v8, it's a standard console P2P MP game.

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Old 09-04-2009, 03:38 PM
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Right I now own the game and have played MP.

You get told there are 'No Servers' if there is nobody hosting a game, it's nothing to do with dedicated servers.

So far I have played an unranked game on arcade setting (I was not the host), but we need lots of players because the game is spit up into different modes. Not only do you chose which of the four game modes but you have to select ranked or unranked and then which of the 3 different difficulties. So potentially there are 9 different options to search from which kind of cuts right down on available servers. It would be better to see a complete list of servers and being told what mode and difficulty they are set to for you to decide who you want to play with.

From what I've seen so far the only hosts are playing unranked and arcade but I would imagine over the course of the weekend as more people buy the game then the available server list should grow.

I was flying a 109 and the host was flying a He111 in dogfight mode. It took a lot for us to each shoot the other down, I hope the damage model is ramped up for realistic and simulator modes. it was good fun though.
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:40 PM
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My point was that even if the actual game online is p2p, you still need some form of dedicated server to 'matchmake' and by that I mean, you need something to tell you what other players are online at that point in time looking to play also, you can't expect someones console to scan every known ip on the internet looking for people that happen to be playing il-2
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:14 PM
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I think the problem comes from PlayStation online network structure. Why not try to play without voice option and, obviously, disconecting any other system in your homework?

On Xbox Live, the server is the user host console, ok, but every communication and other administrative tasks are managed by Microsoft servers. That´s a point for third parties with not so much money as EA or Activision to mantain their own net structures. Xbox is supperior online and it will be untill Sony invest enought money, experience and effort to catch up.

Also, as an example of what I say and contrary to what someone said before, there are games on Xbox 360 where you can mount a PC system as server for your games, totally legal and supported by developers:

From the Section 8 game site news:
"As of today, PC owners can join in on the fun now that Section 8 is available on retail shelves and through Steam in North America. Also, PC owners can download and run their own XServers to host 32 player Xbox 360 games of Section 8 here. Stop YouTubing and get shooting!"

The PC hosting 32 player and Microsoft hosting everything else on their Xbox Live servers. Why not do that with IL-2 Sturmovik Birds of Prey?

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Old 09-04-2009, 06:24 PM
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Blimey, you sound like a PR rep from Microsoft in the majority of your posts
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:35 PM
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It sounds to you like that, only to compensate Sony PPRRs that are registered in this forum.
But I´m not.
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Old 09-04-2009, 08:21 PM
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Blimey, you sound like a PR rep from Microsoft in the majority of your posts
That's what I thought too. Like this forum was missing an evangelist...
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:43 PM
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The PlayStation(R)Network handles all the matchmaking and leader board duties (using SCE servers) free of charge (unlike MS) and most of the time it does a pretty good job.
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:28 AM
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That's what I thought too. Like this forum was missing an evangelist...
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