PS3 Joysticks

[Graiskye]

I find it laughable that ll these new flightsim junkies are crying about their 50.00 hotas stick not working the way they want it. Ha ha, as a player of flight sims for longer than I care to think about, this is the norm when you pay less than 150.00 fo a decent flightstik.
All the cheap ones, ie anything under 150.00 have the same problems, cheap ass pots that wear out, have 'deadly' dead zones, and are just plain craptastic.
After you all go through 2 or 3 of the cheap ones youll realise I am right, there isnt anything that is much harder on a joystic than trying to dogfight with one. If you want a real experience you have to go PC, and a buy z cougar from thrustmater(299.00) most everything else is pure shite comparatively.
The cheap sticks will work, for a bit, dont get me wrong, but they will break down very quickly, iv had 'premum' logitech stiks last less than a day efore the pots were out of whack, and fighting wit them became unbearable.
If the comapany cares about tthe game, which I doubt, they are just hoping to sell a few billion copies, which they figure probably most of then willk sit on the shelf after the inital buzz wears off, Il2 can forget about their console 'joke' and get back to 'real simming', OR they will take the consolers serious(I hope this happens) and they will get put into play a joystick that can actually handle the rigors of dogfighting and can be hooked to an X box,PS-3. I am not sure if the Cougar for Thrustmaster will work ona PS 3 but if it will, this is the stik to get. The Cougar is damn near indestructible, made of metal, and modeled off a f-16 actual joystick in the cockpit.
Have fun with this stuff, but realize if the joystick is cheap you are getting a cheap joystick, DUH.
-Grais

[redtiger02]

Originally Posted by PF_Lizard

And if you're banked over, turning nicely on your target and you just want the tiniest feather of rudder to put lift/lower your nose, and Bam!, you've violently yawed 20 degrees and sprung back, slapping about in the air like a salmon.

I need an analogue rudder!

I had that problem with the Ace Edge, I just had to learn to be very lenient on the rudder. It's one of the few semi-unrealistic aspects of the game. The reality of rudders is that we use them all the time, and doing a hard rudder will very seldom put you into a flat spin. Maybe if you are already close to stall speed, but even then there's a little ruddering involved. When you get a commercial pilots license, you have to be able to enter and recover a spin. It's been a few years since I got mine, but I can't imagine them taking that out of the curriculum. The rocker switch on the Ace Edge seems to work ok with an exception: the rudder snaps back to center a little fast so you have to feed it back slowly, otherwise the plane jerks around a lot. However, I do have a question regarding stick use.
Why am I being outrun by a 190 in a P-51D. The 190 has better acceleration, but lower top speed. I have even marked my throttle to keep it out of the overheat range, but I still am not getting enough speed. It's close to stall during almost every single turn. I even jettisoned all of my rockets to see if that factored in. It gave me a few extra knots, but not enough. Is there something I am doing wrong with the Ace Edge that is not letting me get up to speed? You do lose a little speed in a real-life turn, but you don't lose 50% of it.

[BeaverCompany01]

I use 2 fingers on the rudder for the Ace Edge as it allows you to gently control the spring pressure that wants to pull the rudder back to center.

As far as how it is able to handle all the required analog functions?.....I simply dont know.

I am able to run down the FW-190's ok in the mustang but it requires WEP the whole time and I usually try to start off on a perch (higher than the enemy)

[PedroTheGoat]

I ordered an Aviator on eBay about a week ago due to recommendations from these forums. Plus, the other 2 flightsticks for 360 just run too much.

Everything sounds wonderful except for the rudder and no ability to wheel brake. I desperately hope this is addressed in time for the release or soon thereafter. It sounds like it's going to be tons of fun to fly with the stick... I just wish there wasn't any huge trade offs like there is now.

[Beliall]

lots of opinion here, makes interesting reading, thanks, but between the hotas and aviator, theres not a lot of choice really, they both have really terrible bad points.
the only reason im considering changing is because i cant customise my normal controller, everythings in the wrong place, and i hoped that a joystick would be the way to go. perhaps not as i cant stand deadzones, rudder control sounds awful ( i cant stop crashing the mustang on sim as it is ) and the hat switch is a compromise.
difficult decision to be made on tuesday then!

[trk29]

Originally Posted by Beliall

lots of opinion here, makes interesting reading, thanks, but between the hotas and aviator, theres not a lot of choice really, they both have really terrible bad points.
the only reason im considering changing is because i cant customise my normal controller, everythings in the wrong place, and i hoped that a joystick would be the way to go. perhaps not as i cant stand deadzones, rudder control sounds awful ( i cant stop crashing the mustang on sim as it is ) and the hat switch is a compromise.
difficult decision to be made on tuesday then!

If you want to customize buttons and neither one of these sticks will work for you take a look at this thread it is a gamepad made by thrustmaster.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=9032