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Old 08-20-2009, 11:13 PM
Anton Yudintsev Anton Yudintsev is offline
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Thanks Anton, but I don't understand why this could not have been said sooner.
Somehow, I became obligated to monitor the forum and answer all questions at the time they appear? It is 5 days or so till the first question, right?
OK, the answer is - I - personally - was busy. There is a huge event in Cologne, calling 'Gamescom', you know.

Not everyone (almost noone) is allowed to disclose any new information about the game prior release. That's publisher's only right and obligation.
I have violated it already, yes.
Why publisher is not answering then? The answer is clear - they are not reading this forum at all. That's makes sense, it is about 30 people here, all of them are simmers, and publisher's goal is it to sell 30 000 times more copies. And, unfortunately (for all of us, really), most of the buyers do not cares about not only cockpits, but Simulation mode at all.
That doesn't mean they are not respecting simmers audience, no, on the contrary - it was left mostly to me myself (there were not so many people here before demo). And so, if I am in a business trip or vacation - there could be delays between answers. Usually, it doesn't matter, you know

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I am pretty sure, that if everyone flight-sim lover here (let's say in maximum 1000 people) here would be able to pay, directly, let's say $500 - then there would be game only for them. With forbidden access to casual players, you know. ))

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The reason why I've asked not to discuss that is that I didn't want to discuss that, not that I didn't want to discuss that in that thread. Please, do me a favour .
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:18 PM
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Somehow, I became obligated to monitor the forum and answer all questions at the time they appear? It is 5 days or so till the first question, right?
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This is the very reason I have closed two threads beacuse everybody DEMANDING That Anton answer these questions. Now everybody in here should feel somewhat of shame for demanding answers. Head on over to the HAWX forums where they don't answer anything.

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Probably because he can't the reasons why is publisher (Which he has said before) or all the other posts about how this game is not going to be good because of this, or how many people are not going to buy it now.

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Old 08-20-2009, 11:42 PM
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Sorry to be so harsh but you are wrong

You closed a thread with the WRONG info!! I for one had 'proof' that what you said wasn't true.

I was not DEMANDING anything, but if i suspect things said to be not true i go my OWN way (as does Anton)

Here you go, read it again: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=146

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I didn't even mention your name.

What I was talking about was people saying that Anton needed to answer it just kept going and going. And he had a legitimate reason for not answering.

What I thought was proof was coming from the twitter page and the 505 online demo.

I apologize for saying that there would be cockpits because I got that information off of the twitter site, and from the posts from the LIVE DEMO.

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Old 08-21-2009, 12:03 AM
Anton Yudintsev Anton Yudintsev is offline
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Today, I yelled at a successful international game producer.
Who took so much time to answer questions.
I'm so sorry Anton.
Yeah, I appreciate your sense of humour.
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Old 08-21-2009, 12:13 AM
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Thanks for the reply Anton.

I'm really not out to be snarky when I say the decision to release a flight sim game without cockpits is probably one of the more convoluted, confusing and bizarre decisions ever made in development/publishing of a project.

It's unfortunate and dissapointing to say the least, hopefully full support of all the planes in BoP will be added eventually. Until then.
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Old 08-21-2009, 12:18 AM
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Thanks for the reply Anton.

I'm really not out to be snarky when I say the decision to release a flight sim game without cockpits is probably one of the more convoluted, confusing and bizarre decisions ever made in development/publishing of a project.

It's unfortunate and dissapointing to say the least, hopefully full support of all the planes in BoP will be added eventually. Until then.
technically the game is not a sim , its a console game , and they are produced alot differently.

With sim's there is never really a strict deadline due to the amount of reasearch and testing that is needed. but console games are produced to be shipped at a certain time.

and im sure no german cockpits was more of a "time/money" issue then it was a "stupid/ignorance" issue.

I mean anton said we are FOR SURE getting those cockpits for the bf109 and fw190.

thats awesome
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Old 08-21-2009, 01:08 AM
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technically the game is not a sim , its a console game , and they are produced alot differently.

With sim's there is never really a strict deadline due to the amount of reasearch and testing that is needed. but console games are produced to be shipped at a certain time.

and im sure no german cockpits was more of a "time/money" issue then it was a "stupid/ignorance" issue.

I mean anton said we are FOR SURE getting those cockpits for the bf109 and fw190.

thats awesome
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-1 to Apeboy. Yep, unneccessary. If you start a post with "i'm not trying to be snarky" that means you had time to re-read and avoid sounding like a dick.

To paraphrase Anton's explanation, they expanded their original build of only 12 flyable planes to make the game bigger and better (with 40+) - we now have historical axis vs allies MP, instead of Spits vs P51s which the 'peanut gallery' would have complained about 100% as 'arcady' and 'not true to the original'.

We're getting German fighter cockpits......like guilty said, thats awesome.

Check your damn tone and show some respect.
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Old 08-21-2009, 12:18 AM
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Thanks for the reply Anton.

I'm really not out to be snarky when I say the decision to release a flight sim game without cockpits is probably one of the more convoluted, confusing and bizarre decisions ever made in development/publishing of a project.
Not 'without cockpits', only 'with some cockpits'. And it was known before, I've never hid this.
And, please, stop it .
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Old 08-21-2009, 03:24 AM
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Thank you for the advice.
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:24 PM
Anton Yudintsev Anton Yudintsev is offline
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Ok, so let's please Anton
I think it would be nice. Not hoping much for that, though.

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I really think this isn't right.
I disagree. Making me pleased, is not such a bad thing.
I am trying to do the same thing for community, eventually.
It really could become a 'win-win'.

P.S. Just kidding.
Of course, you are not here to make me pleased. But I really don't see what could be discussed here, and I am feeling like I am caught in a cross-fire. Nobody seem to be really happy with this decision. But now, it is still too late to revert it to only 12th playable plane available, or move gold master by 9 months (or so) ahead to make all fighter's cockpits. So, let's just stop discuss it.

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