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Old 08-18-2009, 08:19 PM
Almighty Blighty Almighty Blighty is offline
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Not that I want to detract from its WWII record, and its huge versatility and success in the fighter-bomber, bomber, night fighter and shipping strike roles, but against a faster single engined fighter the Mosquito just can't cut it.
...and pathfinder, strike, target tug, recon, bomber recon, fighter (mainly the de-hav hornet,) mine laying, ground attack and inteceptor... all in all over 50 variants. Don't forget this little two man wooden plane could carry 2/3rds the bomb load of the b-17 heavy bomber (4000lbs) And in the fighter variant it is surprisingly manouverable because of its light weight plus it has 4X20mm cannon, so even your little FW 190 has a thing or two to answer for when it comes up agains the 400mph fighter variants. (The hornet could do 407mph)
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:42 PM
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(The hornet could do 407mph)
The Hornet had much more pokey engines (and handed so no torque)and much less weight but it could exceed 480mph. It didn't see service though.
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:44 PM
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Better, but still 35mph slower and about 1000ft per min worse off in climb rate than a 109K.
And will break apart in a 500mph dive!
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:44 PM
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The Fw190A8 has 4 20mm cannon and a pair of 13mm MGs, which equates very well with a fighter Mosquito armed with 4 20mm and 4 .303 MGs, and is about 10mph faster and climbs better. It also rolls much better and its instantaneous turn is better, although sustained turn rate is about equal. The older A5 which is in Birds of Prey is more nimble than the A8, just as fast, climbs better, and still has a reasonable armament of 2 20mm cannon (2 more optional) and 2 7.9mm MGs. Therefore I wouldn't call the Mosquito a serious rival to a Fw190 as a fighter, but the ability to double as a reasonable fighter is impressive in a strike plane.
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:54 PM
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Your just to biased against small nimble planes Always needing to get cheap shots at your opponent, rather than turn and burn with him LOL
Now thats a cheap shot

I like flying the Bf109, but I know better than to turn and burn with a Yak-3 flying that. Still, if you want, I will take you on 1v1 with a Bf109K4 or G10 vs a Yak-3 or La7, and I'll show you how an energy fighter can win even a prolonged fight against an angles fighter
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:04 PM
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Now thats a cheap shot

I like flying the Bf109, but I know better than to turn and burn with a Yak-3 flying that. Still, if you want, I will take you on 1v1 with a Bf109K4 or G10 vs a Yak-3 or La7, and I'll show you how an energy fighter can win even a prolonged fight against an angles fighter
That's why we need a YAK-9!!!! So then I could battle you up higher. Though I could just drag you down to my high??? *Soviet Ace Ponders this*
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:15 PM
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That's why we need a YAK-9!!!! So then I could battle you up higher. Though I could just drag you down to my high??? *Soviet Ace Ponders this*
*sceptical noise*. You can't drag an energy fighter down to your level unless the pilot starts trying to turn with you, unless you mean just trying to mess up my shots and gradually working the fight downwards. That is if I'm not driving you down myself. Even so, with a K4 or G10 if I don't like the way the fight is going I can just break out, get some separation and climb back above you to start over.
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:20 PM
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We'll just have to wait and see, David
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:29 PM
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Roll on September

BTW, whereabouts are you (concerning release date)?

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Old 08-19-2009, 08:16 AM
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Not that I want to detract from its WWII record, and its huge versatility and success in the fighter-bomber, bomber, night fighter and shipping strike roles, but against a faster single engined fighter the Mosquito just can't cut it.

Big Generalisation...4 hispanos and 4 brownings makes for quite a big bounce..

as for the luftwaffe

"Special Luftwaffe units (Jagdgeschwader 25 and Jagdgeschwader 50) were formed to combat the Mosquito attacks, though they were rather unsuccessful." .....

just saying...
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