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Old 08-16-2009, 04:01 PM
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Ok guys, face it...a flamethrower on a P-51 in NAZI ZOMBIES would be sweet... Or a helicopter...
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Old 08-16-2009, 04:25 PM
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ww2 aircraft guns only
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Old 08-16-2009, 07:04 PM
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1 × 20 mm ShVAK cannon,
2 × 12.7 mm Berezin UBS machine guns
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Old 08-16-2009, 07:57 PM
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1 × 20 mm ShVAK cannon,
2 × 12.7 mm Berezin UBS machine guns
1x 20mm MG 151 cannon and 2x 13mm MG 131 machine guns will do me fine. That said, a Spitfire XIV with 2x 20mm Hispano cannon and 2x 12.7mm M2 is also good, though I really want one with 4 Hispanos.
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:36 PM
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did the germans ever mount the flak88 on a plane? Just wondering cos they mounted it pretty much on everything else!
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did the germans ever mount the flak88 on a plane? Just wondering cos they mounted it pretty much on everything else!
if they did would have to have been like a Puff the Magic Dragon...

love 6 50cals....But cant beat a mini gun... 6000 rpm! "GE, we bring good things to life"...haha
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:22 PM
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1x 20mm MG 151 cannon and 2x 13mm MG 131 machine guns will do me fine. That said, a Spitfire XIV with 2x 20mm Hispano cannon and 2x 12.7mm M2 is also good, though I really want one with 4 Hispanos.
Having 4 Hispanos would put a serious damper on your planes speed and maneuverability. I mean if you've ever held a real 20mm round, it's not light. So going up against a Me-109G-2 or maybe a FW-190A-5 would be dangerous, unless you were good enough to get on their tales first. And basically do some hit and run attacks.

But nothing can beat the maneuverability/handling of my Yak-3
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:27 PM
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Yea im interested to see the yak-3 aswell, it sounds like thats gonna be the perfect plane for me.
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:42 PM
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Yea im interested to see the yak-3 aswell, it sounds like thats gonna be the perfect plane for me.
It's the best plane for anyone interested in light aircraft as well. Easy handling, quick maneuverability, and good guns. It's the best Soviet fighter made. That is, the La-5F is second in my book.
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:06 PM
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Having 4 Hispanos would put a serious damper on your planes speed and maneuverability. I mean if you've ever held a real 20mm round, it's not light. So going up against a Me-109G-2 or maybe a FW-190A-5 would be dangerous, unless you were good enough to get on their tales first. And basically do some hit and run attacks.

But nothing can beat the maneuverability/handling of my Yak-3
I did say the Spitfire XIV, the Griffon engined version, which has enough speed and climb performance not to need to get into a turning fight, and even then it is a pretty good turner. Anyway a Hispano 20mm cannon is only 10 pounds heavier than a .50cal M2(same amount for a pair of .303s too), and the 20mm ammo is heavier but this is balanced by not carrying as many rounds (20mm=120 rpg vs .50cal=250rpg) so the overall weight gain is not that much. At a guess (I'm not working out how much each ammo and gun option weighs in my head), an XIV with 4 Hispanos would be around 20-30 pounds heavier unloaded and about 50-60 pounds heavier with ammunition than one with 2 Hispanos and 2 .50cals, which seems worthwhile to me considering the firepower.

When flying the Spitfire XIV, I will mostly just rely on BnZing my enemies because the combination of a 448mph top speed and an instantaneous climb rate of more than 5000ft per min (4580ft per min sustained climb at sea level) is just about unbeatable, but if engaged at a disadvantage the XIV is still a good enough turner to beat out the Fw190 and Bf109 (same goes for any American fighter with comparable straight line performance) with little difficulty, and there isn't a prop engined fighter around that can follow the XIV in a steep, climbing turn.

Anyway, like you said, hit and run is the way to go. Erich Hartmann got 352 victories that way, and I have probably got even more using similar tactics in Il2, though I have definitely "died" a lot more times than he did
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