How Realistic Is The Simulation Mode?

[butterfield]

Originally Posted by thundermuffin

Just want to point out that HE is alive and the 109 is not... He isn't lucky and he isn't dumb. I hate to be all "USA! USA!" but he is a fine soldier and did one hell of a job. I'd rather you call out the plane than the pilot. It's really easy for you to be a monday morning QB (if your not American, sorry for esoteric idiom), but you were never in a combat situation like this... none of us will EVER be in a real dogfight. Just remember that.

Yeah your right..I went a little hard there. No disrepect to any vets out there. I was just a little fumed when I was told I didn't know what I was talking about.

Still though that vet might not be giving that interview if the german pilot/pilots were more experienced. It was a desperate manuever. I guess that's the thing though...you never knew... something like that might actually work since there's a 1 in 10 chance your up against a experienced combat pilot. It surely has nothing to due with that plane though.

[thundermuffin]

Originally Posted by butterfield

Yeah your right..I went a little hard there. No disrepect to any vets out there. I was just a little fumed when I was told I didn't know what I was talking about.

Still though that vet might not be giving that interview if the german pilot/pilots were more experienced. It was a desperate manuever. I guess that's the thing though...you never knew... something like that might actually work since there's a 1 in 10 chance your up against a experienced combat pilot.

No you are totally right about those odds!

I was watching that and my only thought was that the 109's were just sitting there waiting for him to shoot them!
And I know you didn't mean any disrespect

[butterfield]

Originally Posted by thundermuffin

No you are totally right about those odds!

I was watching that and my only thought was that the 109's were just sitting there waiting for him to shoot them!
And I know you didn't mean any disrespect

haha yeah the show is a mix of good and bad...sometimes they due a good job trying to inform the layman other times it's oversimplified to the extent of looking absolutely rediculous. "here I am! shoot me please!"

[David603]

I don't think the Bf109s in that video were the right Bf109s anyway. They look like Bf109G10s or Bf109Ks, when it is far more likely they were Bf109G6s, probably equipped with the twin 20mm underslung cannon that where useful against bombers but hated by German pilots because they eroded the 109s performance and manoeuvrability. This would also explain the other Bf109s inability to out turn the P51 later in the engagement.

[butterfield]

Originally Posted by David603

I don't think the Bf109s in that video were the right Bf109s anyway. They look like Bf109G10s or Bf109Ks, when it is far more likely they were Bf109G6s, probably equipped with the twin 20mm underslung cannon that where useful against bombers but hated by German pilots because they eroded the 109s performance and manoeuvrability. This would also explain the other Bf109s inability to out turn the P51 later in the engagement.

You know that's a good point. Were the underslung cannons an option on the G?..meaning... could pilots have the ground crew easily remove them if they were disliked?

[David603]

The Rustsatz field modifications allowed for guns or other equipment to be fitted to standardised location points present on all aircraft from the G onwards. Therefore the extra 20mm cannon could be removed in the field, but without them the standard G6 armament of 1 20mm cannon and 2 13mm MGs lacked punch against bombers.

Normal solution was to have some 109s without extra armament escorting the more heavily armed bomber destroyers. Other solutions were to use Bf109s fitted with a 30mm engine mounted cannon as a permanent modification, or another Rustsatz kit with 2 30mm cannon fitted instead of the optional 20mm cannon, but these were late introductions and the 30mm Mk108 had too slow a fire rate and too low a muzzle velocity for effective use against fighters.

[thundermuffin]

Originally Posted by David603

The Rustsatz field modifications allowed for guns or other equipment to be fitted to standardised location points present on all aircraft from the G onwards. Therefore the extra 20mm cannon could be removed in the field, but without them the standard G6 armament of 1 20mm cannon and 2 13mm MGs lacked punch against bombers.

Normal solution was to have some 109s without extra armament escorting the more heavily armed bomber destroyers. Other solutions were to use Bf109s fitted with a 30mm engine mounted cannon as a permanent modification, or another Rustsatz kit with 2 30mm cannon fitted instead of the optional 20mm cannon, but these were late introductions and the 30mm Mk108 had too slow a fire rate and too low a muzzle velocity for effective use against fighters.

This has to be the biggest 'nerd-off' I've ever seen... as a matter of fact, this entire forum is NOTHING but flight nerds... you people know WAY to much about these things...
I love it

[Desode]

Originally Posted by butterfield

Yeah your right..I went a little hard there. No disrepect to any vets out there. I was just a little fumed when I was told I didn't know what I was talking about.

Still though that vet might not be giving that interview if the german pilot/pilots were more experienced. It was a desperate manuever. I guess that's the thing though...you never knew... something like that might actually work since there's a 1 in 10 chance your up against a experienced combat pilot. It surely has nothing to due with that plane though.

LOL, Sorry if I got you upset butterfield, but you lumped the F4U in there when you mentioned bad low speed manuevering aircraft, and it had a stall speed of 70.5 mph ! So I thought I would pick on ya some. I didn't think you'd take a post so serious. Do you let people get under your skin that easy online ? Just kidding.
If your a Il2 vet then your alright in my book and if you played it for long then I'll assume you learned to know your aircraft stats.

DESODE

[Antinko1]

I love Sim mode but I do wish it'd let you do one thing...

Keep a target locked so you can track it more easily*. I'll certainly be getting an AV8ER because there is nothing more awkward than keeping that bloody thumb stick pressed down, trying to look around whilst also control the aircraft. In Over-G it was easy because that's all the right stick did: look around but yeh...

I generally dislike any function which forces me to press that stick button unless it's a minor function. Looking around, however, is somewhat key to survival.

Anyway, just my 2 pence worth there and I know any awkwardness I experience will be mitigated by the fact that everyone is pretty much on the same playing field with the controls.

*Surely it could be integrated without having to have the unrealistic highlighted target box around it?

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P.S

I quite like the P-51D so far. I find it totally fine to fly providing that I'm extremely careful with the controls.