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IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

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Old 10-09-2009, 03:39 AM
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The only suggestion i would ask is to change the controls on the controller as the poster above has also requested. I fly r/c planes with the throttle/rudder on the left and ailerons/ elevator on the right (airplane mode).
Otherwise an exellent game!
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Old 10-10-2009, 04:01 AM
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Forgive me if I'm repeating but here's my 2 cents for the title update.

1-ability to put elevator/aileron on the right stick(and/or custom assignments for each control). Also be able to assign zoom to look at instruments.

2-make realistic and simulation mode more flyable and real by lessening the tendency to stall so easily and agressively. I'm a real world pilot and am very friendly with a P-47/P-51 Ace from WW2. We have talked extensively about the performance of these aircraft and as they will go onto a high and low speed stall, it just doesn't happen that easily at the brush of the stick.

3-Fix the screen tearing on the PS3 version. Also the gun fire is more robust and opaque on the 360 version which looks better.

4- Rolling wheels on the airplanes and are there brakes? Cause if there are, I haven't found them.

5-Replays/picture taking and drop/flyby camera

Keep up the great work!!! I can't wait to see what you're going to do next for this and future flight titles. You've got me as a life long customer!
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Daryl D.
First thing's first. Fix the P-47/P-51's lack of maneuverability, the P-51B actually being a Mustang Mk.Ia, the 262's inability to do anything, the 109's lack of performance, the Arado's lack of rear 20mm cannon and the Spitfire XVI's inability to roll quickly despite having CLIPPED wings.

If those are all in the next patch or at least if those arrive with each update, I can give a 100% sure fire go that I will buy it instead of just having it rented once.

Also, don't the brakes activate on the ground if you pull back on the throttle?

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Old 10-10-2009, 03:21 PM
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First thing's first. Fix the P-47/P-51's lack of maneuverability, the P-51B actually being a Mustang Mk.Ia, the 262's inability to do anything, the 109's lack of performance, the Arado's lack of rear 20mm cannon and the Spitfire XVI's inability to roll quickly despite having CLIPPED wings.

If those are all in the next patch or at least if those arrive with each update, I can give a 100% sure fire go that I will buy it instead of just having it rented once.

Also, don't the brakes activate on the ground if you pull back on the throttle?
The 262 does not need to be changed. If you are having problems with it online you are probably playing in arcade mode.

In addition, the sim mode has the map function which makes suprise impossible - this needs to be adjusted to only give relative - not exact positions of enemies.

So tweaking the 262 would be unrealistic, it is others things that need to be adjusted.
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:02 PM
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The 262 does not need to be changed. If you are having problems with it online you are probably playing in arcade mode.

In addition, the sim mode has the map function which makes suprise impossible - this needs to be adjusted to only give relative - not exact positions of enemies.

So tweaking the 262 would be unrealistic, it is others things that need to be adjusted.
The only thing unrealistic about the Me 262 is the way the Me 262 A1a is depicted in BOP. In BOP even the Ar 234 jet bomber can outmanoeuver the swept wing Me 262 A1a fighter. I'm sorry to say you are very, very wrong on the Me 262 A1a. It was an exceptional combat aircraft in real life. Even the British RAE Chief test pilot, and maybe greatest test pilot of all time, Eric Brown called it - without a doubt - the most formidable combat aircraft of WWII. Also read about what Watson's Whizzers (Bob Strobell) had to say about it. And these were not just some guys "flying aircraft" in a "virtual" and artificial "reality", but WWII combat and test pilots that flew these aircraft for real.

Do some in depth research on the Me 262, especially also original WWII reports from the German side, i.e. detailed WWII combat records, detailed WWII test reports, WWII design specifications etc. You will then find out why the top German fighter WWII pilots were ALL so very impressed by it. The current depiction of the Me 262 in BOP is historically incorrect - if I use an understatement and want to avoid using strong language.

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Old 10-09-2009, 03:57 AM
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I just thought of something Anton,
I have a some personal video from my friend who flew P-51/P-47's in WW2. He was part of the 325th Fighter squadron based in Italy. They were the checkertail clan. It would be great to see that livery in a game of yours. It is Black&White and Color(Yes color. He had a rich kid on the airbase) and has a lot of footage around the airfield including takeoffs and landings(some good, some crash landings). It also has in flight footage on it including recordings from the gun camera when they did straffing missions. Again, this is not comercial footage. It is good quality personal footage from my friends experience in WW2. I would be more that happy to share it with you. You might even be able to use for future reference on in-game content. Feel free to contact me anytime if this is of interest to you.

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Old 10-10-2009, 09:41 PM
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alot of people have been ignoring the fact that the fw-190 series of planes were some of the most manouverable planes of the war. me and my friends find the way they turn is absolutely disgusting. it would be nice to be able to actually out turn the p-51 like its supposed to. cockpits would be nice too s
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:45 PM
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alot of people have been ignoring the fact that the fw-190 series of planes were some of the most manouverable planes of the war. me and my friends find the way they turn is absolutely disgusting. it would be nice to be able to actually out turn the p-51 like its supposed to. cockpits would be nice too s
I agree about the bad flying FW190... but comparing it to the P-51 as if that one is better .
At least the FW190 has some speed and stability. But yeah, like ive said in 20 posts, the boom and zoom planes have to be fix (P-51 is getting fixed, hope FW190 is next)
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:08 PM
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alot of people have been ignoring the fact that the fw-190 series of planes were some of the most manouverable planes of the war. me and my friends find the way they turn is absolutely disgusting. it would be nice to be able to actually out turn the p-51 like its supposed to. cockpits would be nice too s
This one if iffy. Sometimes 190's would out turn P-51s during the war, but a lot of the time, Allied Mustang pilots stated that they outturned 190's without a problem. Some RAF tests conducted here: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...90/eb-104.html state that "The outstanding maneuverability feature of this airplane is it extremely high rate of roll. The radius of turn, however, is poor and it is only slightly improved by using the maneuvering flap position of 15 degrees. If pulled fast, the airplane tends to stall out abruptly with little warning. Elevator control forces are very heavy in a tight turn, requiring constant use of the elevator trim control."

Again here: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...-tactical.html States: "Again there is not much to choose. The Mustang is slightly better. When evading an enemy aircraft with a steep turn, a pilot will always out-turn the attacking aircraft initially because of the difference in speeds. It is therefore still a worthwhile maneuver with the Mustang III when attacked."

So really, it's hard to completely know if one out turns the other. I'm sure Axis reports state something about the matter, likely in favour of the 190, but there's nor definite proof one out turns the other.

What most mean when talking about the190's maneuverability from what I've read is its extremely good roll rate, response and "handling", a broad term in itself. Usually, it is out turned in a horizontal, maximum AoA, edge of the stall turn.
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Old 11-08-2009, 10:46 PM
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A few things i would change about the game is one the rudder in realistic mode and sim mode is totally retarded its VERY unrealistic. Also fix the p-51d and the folk wolf two of the best fighters in the war but in BOF they handle like fat pigs. Then make it so EVERY plane has a cockpit^^ that is all
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Old 11-09-2009, 09:51 AM
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A few things i would change about the game is one the rudder in realistic mode and sim mode is totally retarded its VERY unrealistic. Also fix the p-51d and the folk wolf two of the best fighters in the war but in BOF they handle like fat pigs. Then make it so EVERY plane has a cockpit^^ that is all
Actually, I'm not quite sure the rudder is that unrealistic. In fact, I believe it's accurate. The problem is that in a real plane you'd have to use a lot of force to use full rudder output, while on the joystick it's not trouble at all.
The P-51 and some other aircraft (not confirmed which) will be improved. Their fuel quantity wasn't optimal.
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