Why does my spitfire stall at any speed or turns..!!

[SlappyDingle]

Can any of you fly guys out there answer this? Did these planes all actually stall or go into flat spins as frequently as this sim shows? I can't believe it! They just drop like stones!

[P-51]

No they were much better pilots than you!

[SleepTrgt]

Originally Posted by SlappyDingle

Can any of you fly guys out there answer this? Did these planes all actually stall or go into flat spins as frequently as this sim shows? I can't believe it! They just drop like stones!

I was confused at first aswell, But these planes dont turn that fast, aint F-22's.

Just put the sensitivity down and dont turn that hard.

[fuzzychickens]

Originally Posted by SlappyDingle

Can any of you fly guys out there answer this? Did these planes all actually stall or go into flat spins as frequently as this sim shows? I can't believe it! They just drop like stones!

Here's the bottom line.

In real life, pilots would have the physical sensation of a stall to let them know when they were pulling to hard - plus at high speed there would be some nasty G-forces preventing the pilot from yanking so hard.

You have none of these sensations to help you feel a stall coming on, so it just takes time to get used to the handling.

The flight model is pretty dang accurate in IL2 (certainly more so than most sims), so yes, the plane behaviour for the control surface input and speed you are giving the plane is pretty close to real - if you have a proper flight stick, then all you need is more time.

Also, I used to turn up the sound on the pc IL2 to help, you could hear the buffeting sound of a stall and learn to use that to fly on the edge. I have no idea how much of the sound from the PC game is intact though.

[butterfield]

Originally Posted by fuzzychickens

Here's the bottom line.

In real life, pilots would have the physical sensation of a stall to let them know when they were pulling to hard - plus at high speed there would be some nasty G-forces preventing the pilot from yanking so hard.

You have none of these sensations to help you feel a stall coming on, so it just takes time to get used to the handling.

The flight model is pretty dang accurate in IL2 (certainly more so than most sims), so yes, the plane behaviour for the control surface input and speed you are giving the plane is pretty close to real - if you have a proper flight stick, then all you need is more time.

Also, I used to turn up the sound on the pc IL2 to help, you could hear the buffeting sound of a stall and learn to use that to fly on the edge. I have no idea how much of the sound from the PC game is intact though.

Good post..

Would just like to add that the problem with BOP is there is NO sound effect for the shuddering of the plane before a high speed stall..... I started a thread yesterday on this called (Missing sound effects...) Anton said he would check on it.

The PC had this sound effect and it was very audible.

BOP is incomplete unless they patch it in after release....as it sits right now I would compare this to a driving sim where the tire 'squeel' noise was left out during the loss of traction.

[guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by butterfield

Good post..

Would just like to add that the problem with BOP is there is NO sound effect for the shuddering of the plane before a high speed stall..... I started a thread yesterday on this called (Missing sound effects...) Anton said he would check on it.

The PC had this sound effect and it was very audible.

BOP is incomplete unless they patch it in after release....as it sits right now I would compare this to a driving sim where the tire 'squeel' noise was left out during the loss of traction.

it most definately IS in the game , it just doesnt sound as terrible as the pc version

[butterfield]

Originally Posted by guiltyspark

it most definately IS in the game , it just doesnt sound as terrible as the pc version

I don't here it on 2 different xbox's on 2 different sound systems....or in the high quality IGN videos where the pilot is stalling all over the place.

[Spitfire23]

Originally Posted by butterfield

I don't here it on 2 different xbox's on 2 different sound systems....or in the high quality IGN videos where the pilot is stalling all over the place.

Its in there, i can hear it

[butterfield]

Originally Posted by Spitfire23

Its in there, i can hear it

haha that's what everyone keeps saying..I guess me and my friend are either deaf or both have deffective xboxes

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by SlappyDingle

Can any of you fly guys out there answer this? Did these planes all actually stall or go into flat spins as frequently as this sim shows? I can't believe it! They just drop like stones!

Plain and simple: Either don't pull the stick all the way back or just turn down the sensitivity like I did. I haven't stalled since.