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Originally Posted by juz1

am I the only one that suffers crippling lag when theres 16 up? E.g. cod 4 ground war- 8 is manageable-

Depends on the host. People who don't have a good upload speed shouldn't bother hosting. If you're in a room of friends, find out who has the best speed and is preferably centrally located and have them host.
In COD4, the game chooses the host out of players in the room, so blame the game.

but the numbers are perfect for deathmatch and team deathmatch

TDM is the bane of my gaming existence. 8 is good for siege based games too though, but 16 is good too. More than that and communication and coordination gets difficult.